You are endorsing racism. You can spin it any way you want, but the fact remains that you support a racist, and therefore you too must be racist in some way.

If you condone racist speech and racist policy as a convenient way to get a tax cut or own the libs or whatever flimsy rationalizations you make, you might be a racist.

So keep that in mind the next time you get your panties in a twist over someone calling Republicans racist.

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You are endorsing racism. You can spin it any way you want, but the fact remains that you support a racist, and therefore you too must be racist in some way.

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...and that puts GBear firmly in the Trump Racist Proud Boy Nazi camp.

Do have anything intelligent to say, or are you just going to show us that you learned how to put GIFs in your posts?

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Do have anything intelligent to say, or are you just going to show us that you learned how to put GIFs in your posts?

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It's better than reading a bunch of flashy words amounting to nothing, isn't it?

An Oral History of Trump's Bigotry

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/588067/

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Do you truly not believe Trump is a racist?

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...and that puts GBear firmly in the Trump Racist Proud Boy Nazi camp.

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He was already there long ago

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GBear4Life said:

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Do you truly not believe Trump is a racist?

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In 3... 2... 1...

"Yadda yadda outrage machine yadda yadda virtue signaling yadda yadda racism narrative yadda yadda moral superiority"

Damnit. I wasn't planning on voting for Trump. However, now I know that voting for the opposition is like voting for one of those crazy protestors in PCU. So conflicted...

Wow - you are so good at false equivalencies! Another predominant characteristic of Republicons.

Donald Trump Once Considered Setting 'Blacks Against Whites' On 'The Apprentice'

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b751fdfe4b02b415d755d2e/amp

"Stern asked whether "very dark blacks or light-skinned blacks" would appear. Trump said there would be an "assortment." The whites, Trump continued, would probably all be blondes."

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Donald Trump Once Considered Setting 'Blacks Against Whites' On 'The Apprentice'

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b751fdfe4b02b415d755d2e/amp

"Stern asked whether "very dark blacks or light-skinned blacks" would appear. Trump said there would be an "assortment." The whites, Trump continued, would probably all be blondes."

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"Nothing racist at all about that. He was just being an entertainer. Virtue signaling. Culture of outrage. Not racist. Fake news." - BI Reich Wingers' response.

The OP was so stupid, so obviously a logical fallacy outlined many times, that a gif was seemingly the only appropriate response.

Forgetting the culture war issues (and my sense is Trump is using prejudice as a political weapon) for the moment, I can't see any moderate voter like myself voting for him. He simply is not an option for a variety of reasons. That does not mean the Democratic Party is going to provide an option for the moderate voter either. Not a good place to be in today's political environment.

The fact this individual has the ear of the POTUS is horrifying in itself:

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6062339200001/#sp=show-clips




21 Facts That Explain Exactly Who Stephen Miller Is

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alternet.org/2017/02/21-facts-explain-exactly-who-stephen-miller/amp/


Are there any mental health professionals out there willing to share what the diagnosis of his mental condition is? The term "paranoid delusional" rings a bell from college.

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I can't see any moderate voter like myself voting for him.

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You're not a moderate and there are plenty of ways you'll convince yourself voting for Trump is the "lesser of two evils."

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Well neither th eMrs. our me are voting for him, and she actually is a registered GOP. Regardless of how you want to evaluate me (and frankly I don't care), he isn't getting our vote. Doesn't mean the Democrat is either. But it won't be Trump.

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wifeisafurd said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I can't see any moderate voter like myself voting for him.

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You're not a moderate and there are plenty of ways you'll convince yourself voting for Trump is the "lesser of two evils."

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Well neither th eMrs. our me are voting for him, and she actually is a registered GOP. Regardless of how you want to evaluate me (and frankly I don't care), he isn't getting our vote. Doesn't mean the Democrat is either. But it won't be Trump.

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And that is why you're not a moderate. Because you're not voting against Trump. It's so unthinkable for you to vote for a Democrat that you'd rather vote for the 2020 version of Gary Johnson so you can tell your liberal friends that you have standards and that you won't support Trump, but you won't vote for somebody where that vote could actually help defeat him.

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BNL - you know, my political leanings are likely much closer to yours than to WIAF's. But I think your point would carry more weight here if WIAF lived in a state that was remotely in doubt. I don't know the man, but I think he lives in SoCal. California is going to go blue even if a million WIAFs vote Libertarian or whatever. I also live in California and will vote Dem myself, but it really doesn't matter. (Caveat: the down-ticket stuff does matter).

WIAF, what if hypothetically you and Mrs Furd lived in Pennsylvania or Michigan or Wisconsin? I think you've already said you'd vote for Biden and maybe Harris in the general election Did I get that right? But not Sanders or Warren? Any other Dems you would actually vote for rather than just voting 3rd party if you lived in a swing state?

This is the dilemma, or one of them anyway. I don't want Biden for a whole host of reasons that have been articulated. I don't think he will energize anyone. But it seems like the suburban (i.e. swing) voters in those 3 states (PA, MI, WI) do prefer him. Obviously I will vote for Biden over Trump if that's the choice, but my pessimistic prediction is that Trump will win, given the electoral college situation. The one Dem candidate that has the best shot to deliver PA, MI, WI suburbs is the one that the most energized part of the Dem party (myself included) wants least. And we are not currently at a point where Florida/Arizona/North Carolina is a likely avenue for Dem electoral success (and Ohio is just plain gone).

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I'll spell it out in simple words for you. If you support and encourage a racist candidate, then you are condoning (giving a thumbs-up to) racism. You may not be overtly racist, but you are racist-adjacent.

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LMAO "racist-adjacent" you don't even know *** you're talking about. Just straight gibberish, as was the OP. You're venting. You can't step outside yourself, and I find it amusing.

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wifeisafurd said:

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I can't see any moderate voter like myself voting for him.

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You're not a moderate and there are plenty of ways you'll convince yourself voting for Trump is the "lesser of two evils."

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Well neither th eMrs. our me are voting for him, and she actually is a registered GOP. Regardless of how you want to evaluate me (and frankly I don't care), he isn't getting our vote. Doesn't mean the Democrat is either. But it won't be Trump.

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You are smart enough to know that a vote for an independent would be a vote for Trump.
Well, not in CA with all/none electoral college.
You get a pass by the skin of your teeth.
If you were in a swing state, though, I'd excoriate you!!

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wifeisafurd said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I can't see any moderate voter like myself voting for him.

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You're not a moderate and there are plenty of ways you'll convince yourself voting for Trump is the "lesser of two evils."

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Well neither th eMrs. our me are voting for him, and she actually is a registered GOP. Regardless of how you want to evaluate me (and frankly I don't care), he isn't getting our vote. Doesn't mean the Democrat is either. But it won't be Trump.

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You are smart enough to know that a vote for an independent would be a vote for Trump.
Well, not in CA with all/none electoral college.
You get a pass by the skin of your teeth.
If you were in a swing state, though, I'd excoriate you!!

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Nah. It's all about polish with this guy. He wants to fit in with his liberal friends and so he paints this picture of himself that isn't remotely true. But you read enough of what he writes and it's plain that he doesn't believe any of it.

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AunBear89 said:

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I'll spell it out in simple words for you. If you support and encourage a racist candidate, then you are condoning (giving a thumbs-up to) racism. You may not be overtly racist, but you are racist-adjacent.

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LMAO "racist-adjacent" you don't even know *** you're talking about. Just straight gibberish, as was the OP. You're venting. You can't step outside yourself, and I find it amusing.

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I thought you'd like to know that I skip over everything you write. What you write (whether or not you actually believe any of it) is utterly inconsequential. Just like you.

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You are endorsing racism. You can spin it any way you want, but the fact remains that you support a racist, and therefore you too must be racist in some way.

If you condone racist speech and racist policy as a convenient way to get a tax cut or own the libs or whatever flimsy rationalizations you make, you might be a racist.

So keep that in mind the next time you get your panties in a twist over someone calling Republicans racist.

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Name Trump's racist policies and how they have hurt the offended race.

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wifeisafurd said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I can't see any moderate voter like myself voting for him.

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You're not a moderate and there are plenty of ways you'll convince yourself voting for Trump is the "lesser of two evils."

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Well neither th eMrs. our me are voting for him, and she actually is a registered GOP. Regardless of how you want to evaluate me (and frankly I don't care), he isn't getting our vote. Doesn't mean the Democrat is either. But it won't be Trump.

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And that is why you're not a moderate. Because you're not voting against Trump. It's so unthinkable for you to vote for a Democrat that you'd rather vote for the 2020 version of Gary Johnson so you can tell your liberal friends that you have standards and that you won't support Trump, but you won't vote for somebody where that vote could actually help defeat him.

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If it helps your understanding, I know plenty of Dems that won't vote Democratic if the candidate is Bernie Sanders or someone similar. even to defeat Trump. Clearly you won't recognize a moderate voter if one fell from space on top of you.

If you don't understand that people won't vote for someone that they disagree with, than you can follow the Decmocratic socialists over the cliff, along with all your thumb-up guys. You don't get it. Just look at how many feet voters there were in Trump-Clinton than the prior election.


lemmings jumping off cliffs Fenton via @YouTube

BearNakedLadies said:

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GBear4Life said:

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LMAO "racist-adjacent" you don't even know *** you're talking about. Just straight gibberish, as was the OP. You're venting. You can't step outside yourself, and I find it amusing.

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I thought you'd like to know that I skip over everything you write. What you write (whether or not you actually believe any of it) is utterly inconsequential. Just like you.

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You're letting me know you skip my posts as you spend time responding to all of them.

Amazin'.