Dems showing true compassion for the working man

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LMK5
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Dems continue to block stimulus. From CNN (not Fox):Dems block stimulus
AunBear89
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Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Big C
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Both sides need to get this worked out, fast. Each side compromise 50%, or whatever. Now. Also, remind your constituents to stay home and follow public health guidelines.
Anarchistbear
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Post idiotic title and show mock surprise when people don't take you seriously.

Not a serious person.
Professor David Romer
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AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?
Because he's told what to think to save needless synapse firing
Professor David Romer
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LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Do you need a safe space?
GBear4Life
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I understand what Dems are trying to do, but they act as if the working people don't have employers who have to operate and succeed to pay them. If you want to lament that this is the paradox of capitalism, have at it. That's a discussion that is worth having - but it's separate from the issue. There are also varying degrees of how and why to help big business.
AunBear89
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Not if all you are going to do is spew GOP/Faux News talking points. You didn't even read the piece that you linked. Or, if you did, then your characterization of it is appropriately RWNJ dishonest.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
Professor David Romer
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GBear4Life said:

I understand what Dems are trying to do, but they act as if the working people don't have employers who have to operate and succeed to pay them. If you want to lament that this is the paradox of capitalism, have at it. That's a discussion that is worth having - but it's separate from the issue. There are also varying degrees of how and why to help big business.
Once we have them under government subsidies, the industries will all die off and then they will have to receive government subsidies. Then they'll have to apply for jobs under our new Communist structure.

Jobs in the party will be hard to come by. We won't be accepting applications from establishment Democrats and Republicans. We might let Justin Amash have a minority spot though.
sycasey
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LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
sycasey
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AunBear89 said:

Not if all you are going to do is spew GOP/Faux News talking points. You didn't even read the piece that you linked. Or, if you did, then your characterization of it is appropriately RWNJ dishonest.
The piece says that the parties are still negotiating deals on a bill that both sides can agree on. Democrats are voting against McConnell's attempts to bring the Republican bill to the floor before these negotiations are complete. That part just seems like political games, trying to "win" news cycles and whatnot. I think it's dumb, but it probably doesn't mean anything to the ultimate substance of the bill that does get passed.
LMK5
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sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Professor David Romer
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LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Businesses shouldn't get a nickel. Especially the biggest ones.
sycasey
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LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
What? This article says nothing about Pelosi. It's about negotiations within the Senate.
LMK5
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Professor David Romer said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Businesses shouldn't get a nickel. Especially the biggest ones.
What jobs will the people go back to?
Professor David Romer
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sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
What? This article says nothing about Pelosi. It's about negotiations within the Senate.
Anarchistbear
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Santa Clara County's program is a model of what this should look like:

Eligibility Criteria & How to Apply

To qualify for financial assistance, a household must meet 3 criteria:

You must be a resident of Santa Clara County
Your household income must be less than 80% of the average median income (see table below)
You must have a documented loss of income related to COVID-19 impacts due to health, employment, or school/child care closures
Size of Household Maximum Income
1 person $72,750
2 people $83,150
3 people $93,550
4 people $103,900
5 people $112,250
6 people $120,550
7 people $128,850
8 people $137,150
Eligible households will receive direct financial assistance, based on documented loss of income as a result of COVID-19 impacts (maximum of $4,000 per month). Assistance may be requested once per month for the duration of the public health emergency, as long as the household continues to experience an economic impact and funds are available. Basic information and referral to area services will also be available for households.
dimitrig
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What shows real compassion for the working man is trying to overturn Obamacare.

bearlyamazing
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LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Here's what Pelosi came back from vacation with and tried to cram in the bill:

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1. Corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards at companies receiving assistance

2. Bailing out all current debt of postal service

3. Required early voting

4. Required same day voter registration

5. 10k bailout for student loans

6. For companies accepting assistance, 1/3 of board members must be chosen by workers

7. Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

8. Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

9. Greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

10. Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

11. $15 minimum wage at companies receiving assistance

12. Permanent paid leave at companies receiving assistance
As liberals, many of you probably like these ideas but they have no business being crammed into this desperately needed aid bill. It's pure, bull*&%* shameless politics, trying to take advantage of a crisis to help them gain further political strength.
LMK5
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bearlyamazing said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Here's what Pelosi came back from vacation with and tried to cram in the bill:

Quote:

1. Corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards at companies receiving assistance

2. Bailing out all current debt of postal service

3. Required early voting

4. Required same day voter registration

5. 10k bailout for student loans

6. For companies accepting assistance, 1/3 of board members must be chosen by workers

7. Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

8. Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

9. Greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

10. Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

11. $15 minimum wage at companies receiving assistance

12. Permanent paid leave at companies receiving assistance
As liberals, many of you probably like these ideas but they have no business being crammed into this desperately needed aid bill. It's pure, bull*&%* shameless politics, trying to take advantage of a crisis to help them gain further political strength.
Just woke up to this. Dem bill mentions diversity 60 times. Biden must be ready to strangle someone.
calpoly
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bearlyamazing said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Here's what Pelosi came back from vacation with and tried to cram in the bill:

Quote:

1. Corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards at companies receiving assistance

2. Bailing out all current debt of postal service

3. Required early voting

4. Required same day voter registration

5. 10k bailout for student loans

6. For companies accepting assistance, 1/3 of board members must be chosen by workers

7. Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

8. Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

9. Greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

10. Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

11. $15 minimum wage at companies receiving assistance

12. Permanent paid leave at companies receiving assistance
As liberals, many of you probably like these ideas but they have no business being crammed into this desperately needed aid bill. It's pure, bull*&%* shameless politics, trying to take advantage of a crisis to help them gain further political strength.
I see the sheep have copied and pasted their marching orders from der fuhrer at breitbart propaganda!
calpoly
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LMK5 said:

Dems continue to block stimulus. From CNN (not Fox):Dems block stimulus
I see that the repubs want to socialize the losses of large corporations again.
Professor Henry Higgins
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LMK5 said:

bearlyamazing said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Here's what Pelosi came back from vacation with and tried to cram in the bill:

Quote:

1. Corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards at companies receiving assistance

2. Bailing out all current debt of postal service

3. Required early voting

4. Required same day voter registration

5. 10k bailout for student loans

6. For companies accepting assistance, 1/3 of board members must be chosen by workers

7. Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

8. Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

9. Greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

10. Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

11. $15 minimum wage at companies receiving assistance

12. Permanent paid leave at companies receiving assistance
As liberals, many of you probably like these ideas but they have no business being crammed into this desperately needed aid bill. It's pure, bull*&%* shameless politics, trying to take advantage of a crisis to help them gain further political strength.
Just woke up to this. Dem bill mentions diversity 60 times. Biden must be ready to strangle someone.
Biden don't strangle. Biden fights with a chain.
Professor Henry Higgins
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Anarchistbear said:

Santa Clara County's program is a model of what this should look like:

Eligibility Criteria & How to Apply

To qualify for financial assistance, a household must meet 3 criteria:

You must be a resident of Santa Clara County
Your household income must be less than 80% of the average median income (see table below)
You must have a documented loss of income related to COVID-19 impacts due to health, employment, or school/child care closures
Size of Household Maximum Income
1 person $72,750
2 people $83,150
3 people $93,550
4 people $103,900
5 people $112,250
6 people $120,550
7 people $128,850
8 people $137,150
Eligible households will receive direct financial assistance, based on documented loss of income as a result of COVID-19 impacts (maximum of $4,000 per month). Assistance may be requested once per month for the duration of the public health emergency, as long as the household continues to experience an economic impact and funds are available. Basic information and referral to area services will also be available for households.
Problem is that on the county level, the documentation processing is probably very doable even with people working from home. On the national level, it would massively delay getting the money out quickly. But the federal officials are already doing a good enough job delaying the assistance getting out, so I bet that we have record turnover in Congress and the Senate in 2022 at minimum and maybe even 2020 if they really piss people off.
sycasey
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bearlyamazing said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Here's what Pelosi came back from vacation with and tried to cram in the bill:

Quote:

1. Corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards at companies receiving assistance

2. Bailing out all current debt of postal service

3. Required early voting

4. Required same day voter registration

5. 10k bailout for student loans

6. For companies accepting assistance, 1/3 of board members must be chosen by workers

7. Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

8. Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

9. Greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

10. Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

11. $15 minimum wage at companies receiving assistance

12. Permanent paid leave at companies receiving assistance
As liberals, many of you probably like these ideas but they have no business being crammed into this desperately needed aid bill. It's pure, bull*&%* shameless politics, trying to take advantage of a crisis to help them gain further political strength.

We are talking about a Senate bill. Pelosi can't "cram" anything into that. Her House can draft its own bill, though. Is that what you mean?
Anarchistbear
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At the federal level give everyone their current salary for three months- call it disaster leave or a lump sum whatever is easier. The government has payroll info. No money for corporations. They can borrow at no interest with their assets.
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Anarchistbear said:

At the federal level give everyone their current salary for three months- call it disaster leave or a lump sum whatever is easier. The government has payroll info. No money for corporations. They can borrow at no interest with their assets.
https://youtu.be/k9DO26O6dIg?t=135
LMK5
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sycasey said:

bearlyamazing said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Here's what Pelosi came back from vacation with and tried to cram in the bill:

Quote:

1. Corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards at companies receiving assistance

2. Bailing out all current debt of postal service

3. Required early voting

4. Required same day voter registration

5. 10k bailout for student loans

6. For companies accepting assistance, 1/3 of board members must be chosen by workers

7. Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

8. Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

9. Greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

10. Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

11. $15 minimum wage at companies receiving assistance

12. Permanent paid leave at companies receiving assistance
As liberals, many of you probably like these ideas but they have no business being crammed into this desperately needed aid bill. It's pure, bull*&%* shameless politics, trying to take advantage of a crisis to help them gain further political strength.

We are talking about a Senate bill. Pelosi can't "cram" anything into that. Her House can draft its own bill, though. Is that what you mean?
Yes, Pelosi now has her own bill, but from the stuff crammed into it, it seems it has AOC's fingerprints all over it.
sycasey
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LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

bearlyamazing said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Here's what Pelosi came back from vacation with and tried to cram in the bill:

Quote:

1. Corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards at companies receiving assistance

2. Bailing out all current debt of postal service

3. Required early voting

4. Required same day voter registration

5. 10k bailout for student loans

6. For companies accepting assistance, 1/3 of board members must be chosen by workers

7. Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

8. Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

9. Greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

10. Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

11. $15 minimum wage at companies receiving assistance

12. Permanent paid leave at companies receiving assistance
As liberals, many of you probably like these ideas but they have no business being crammed into this desperately needed aid bill. It's pure, bull*&%* shameless politics, trying to take advantage of a crisis to help them gain further political strength.

We are talking about a Senate bill. Pelosi can't "cram" anything into that. Her House can draft its own bill, though. Is that what you mean?
Yes, Pelosi now has her own bill, but from the stuff crammed into it, it seems it has AOC's fingerprints all over it.
Democrats draft a bill that has stuff Democrats want. Republicans draft a bill that has stuff Republicans want. Now they have to negotiate and can't just get everything they want. What a concept!
AunBear89
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Won't someone PLEASE think about the Fortune 500?!?!
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
bearlyamazing
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calpoly said:

bearlyamazing said:

LMK5 said:

sycasey said:

LMK5 said:

AunBear89 said:

Why are you a liar?

They are objecting to the $500 billion unregulated corporate slush fund. Why can't cons pass a bill to help the working class without filling it with corporate pork for their oligarch masters?

Oh yeah -IOIYAR!
Can't you have a single discussion without getting the claws out? Why are you so thin-skinned?
Yeah, sure, your sarcastic title about Democrats lacking compassion for the working man was perfectly civil.

Give me a break.
Evidently everything was a "go" until Pelosi came back from her vacation. The article is from CNN.
Here's what Pelosi came back from vacation with and tried to cram in the bill:

Quote:

1. Corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards at companies receiving assistance

2. Bailing out all current debt of postal service

3. Required early voting

4. Required same day voter registration

5. 10k bailout for student loans

6. For companies accepting assistance, 1/3 of board members must be chosen by workers

7. Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

8. Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

9. Greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

10. Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

11. $15 minimum wage at companies receiving assistance

12. Permanent paid leave at companies receiving assistance
As liberals, many of you probably like these ideas but they have no business being crammed into this desperately needed aid bill. It's pure, bull*&%* shameless politics, trying to take advantage of a crisis to help them gain further political strength.
I see the sheep have copied and pasted their marching orders from der fuhrer at breitbart propaganda!
You're the sheep, reflexively denying anything that embarrasses you about your party. Are you denying those items aren't in the Dem demands?

And of course it's a Senate bill but are you denying that she was involved in the negotiations? She clearly was and both aisles admitted she was.

As for corporate bailouts, you people act like it's going into CEOs' pockets. If these major corporations fail, the numbers of jobs lost will be disastrous. Oh, but it's all just corporate greed!
AunBear89
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Please stop lying. Trump does enough of it for all of you GOP minions.

Or do you honestly believe that $500 Billion corporate slush fund will go to keeping the lights on and salaries for the rank and file? Just like Trump's corporate tax break did? Oh, wait - it didn't.

I suspect much of what the Dems are throwing in there are poison pill amendments to keep the GOP goosesteppers from rubber stamping Mnuchin's Free Money Pot for the Fortune 500 (aka The Real GOP Base).
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
95bears
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I don't have a dog in this fight (independent, hate Trump), but the fact is that between the Senate Bill and the House Bill, the Democrats have crammed more off-topic pork in to critical life-or-death, historic, urgent legislation than the GOP has. Is there anything comparable to stuff like this in the Republican bill (seriously, I'd love to know):

$35M for the JFK Center?
$300M for the National Endowment for the Arts
$300M for the National Endowment for the humanities
$100M for NASA (I love space research more than most, but don't get the urgency to fund them)

And then almost $300M additional for the IRS. That one is debatable as they have a $12B operating cost but what are they going to do with it?

That's $1B that could be used to offer product and production bounties to medical device and biotech companies.

I have two small businesses that are on track to get killed by this thing. Am working on layoff plans right now and trying to structure credit facilities (futile, credit markets are carnage).

Dems are out of touch. It just appears to be madness. I wish we could make every politician have to start and run a business for a month and realize a) it's very hard and b) employers aren't evil.

dimitrig
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95bears said:

I don't have a dog in this fight (independent, hate Trump), but the fact is that between the Senate Bill and the House Bill, the Democrats have crammed more off-topic pork in to critical life-or-death, historic, urgent legislation the GOP has. Is there anything comparable to stuff like this in the Republican bill (seriously, I'd love to know):

$35M for the JFK Center?
$300M for the National Endowment for the Arts
$300M for the National Endowment for the humanities
$100M for NASA (I love space research more than most, but don't get the urgency to fund them)

And then almost $300M additional for the IRS. That one is debatable as they have a $12B operating cost but what are they going to do with it?

That's $1B that could be used to offer a product and production bounties to medical device and biotech companies.

I have two small businesses that are on track to get killed by this thing. Am working on layoff plans right now and trying to structure credit facilities (futile, credit markets are carnage).

Dems are out of touch. It just appears to be madness. I wish we could make every politician have to start and run a business for a month and realize a) it's very hard and b) employers aren't evil.



Dems are just trying to stick it the the GOP the same way the GOP has been sticking it to the Dems. What goes around comes around.
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