The General Flynn Travesty

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After so many here bought the nonsense Stanfurd Madcow, the MSM and the FBI were peddling about Flynn and called him a traitor or worse and mocked those of us who defended him, there's lots coming out that will likely end up exonerating him. Even the agents who interviewed him initially said they didn't think he was lying and they withheld tons of exculpatory evidence until forced to give it up this month but only after he's lost his home, nearly bankrupted, fired and prosecuted on false charges,

Michael Flynn case should be dismissed to preserve justice
BY JONATHAN TURLEY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

Previously undisclosed documents in the case of former national security adviser Michael Flynn offer us a chilling blueprint on how top FBI officials not only sought to entrap the former White House aide but sought to do so on such blatantly unconstitutional and manufactured grounds.

These new documents further undermine the view of both the legitimacy and motivations of those investigations under former FBI director James Comey. For all of those who have long seen a concerted effort within the Justice Department to target the Trump administration, the fragments will read like a Dead Sea Scrolls version of a "deep state" conspiracy.

One note reflects discussions within the FBI shortly after the 2016 election on how to entrap Flynn in an interview concerning his conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. According to Fox News, the note was written by the former FBI head of counterintelligence, Bill Priestap, after a meeting with Comey and his deputy director, Andrew McCabe.

The note states, "What is our goal? Truth and admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?" This may have expressed an honest question over the motivation behind this targeting of Flynn, a decision for which Comey later publicly took credit when he had told an audience that he decided he could "get away" with sending "a couple guys over" to the White House to set up Flynn and make the case.

The new documents also explore how the Justice Department could get Flynn to admit breaking the Logan Act, a law that dates back to from 1799 which makes it a crime for a citizen to intervene in disputes between the United States and foreign governments. It has never been used to convict a citizen and is widely viewed as flagrantly unconstitutional.

In his role as the national security adviser to the president elect, there was nothing illegal in Flynn meeting with Kislyak. To use this abusive law here was utterly absurd, although other figures such as former acting Attorney General Sally Yates also raised it. Nevertheless, the FBI had latched onto this abusive law to target the retired Army lieutenant general.

Another newly released document is an email from former FBI lawyer Lisa Page to former FBI special agent Peter Strzok, who played the leadership role in targeting Flynn. In the email, Page suggests that Flynn could be set up by making a passing reference to a federal law that criminalizes lies to federal investigators. She suggested to Strzok that "it would be an easy way to just casually slip that in." So this effort was not about protecting national security or learning critical intelligence. It was about bagging Flynn for the case in the legal version of a canned trophy hunt.

It is also disturbing that this evidence was only recently disclosed by the Justice Department. When Flynn was pressured to plead guilty to a single count of lying to investigators, he was unaware such evidence existed and that the federal investigators who had interviewed him told their superiors they did not think that Flynn intentionally lied when he denied discussing sanctions against Russia with Kislyak. Special counsel Robert Mueller and his team changed all that and decided to bring the dubious charge. They drained Flynn financially then threatened to charge his son.

Flynn never denied the conversation and knew the FBI had a transcript of it. Indeed, President Trump publicly discussed a desire to reframe Russian relations and renegotiate such areas of tensions. But Flynn still ultimately pleaded guilty to the single false statement to federal investigators. This additional information magnifies the doubts over the case.

Various FBI officials also lied and acted in arguably criminal or unethical ways, but all escaped without charges. McCabe had a supervisory role in the Flynn prosecution. He was then later found by the Justice Department inspector general to have repeatedly lied to investigators. While his case was referred for criminal charges, McCabe was fired but never charged. Strzok was also fired for his misconduct in the investigation.

Comey intentionally leaked FBI material, including potentially classified information but was never charged. Another FBI agent responsible for the secret warrants used for the Russia investigation had falsified evidence to maintain the investigation. He is still not indicted. The disconnect of these cases with the treatment of Flynn is galling and grotesque.

Even the judge in the case has added to this disturbing record. As Flynn appeared before District Judge Emmet Sullivan for sentencing, Sullivan launched into him and said he could be charged with treason and with working as an unregistered agent on behalf of Turkey. Pointing to a flag behind him, Sullivan declared to Flynn, "You were an unregistered agent of a foreign country while serving as the national security adviser to the president of the United States. That undermines everything this flag over here stands for. Arguably, you sold your country out."

Flynn was never charged with treason or with being a foreign agent. But when Sullivan menacingly asked if he wanted a sentence then and there, Flynn wisely passed. It is a record that truly shocks the conscience. While rare, it is still possible for the district court to right this wrong since Flynn has not been sentenced. The Justice Department can invite the court to use its inherent supervisory authority to right a wrong of its own making. As the Supreme Court made clear in 1932, "universal sense of justice" is a stake in such cases. It is the "duty of the court to stop the prosecution in the interest of the government itself to protect it from the illegal conduct of its officers and to preserve the purity of its courts."

Flynn was a useful tool for everyone and everything but justice. Mueller had ignored the view of the investigators and coerced Flynn to plead to a crime he did not commit to gain damaging testimony against Trump and his associates that Flynn did not have. The media covered Flynn to report the flawed theory of Russia collusion and to foster the view that some sort of criminal conspiracy was being uncovered by Mueller. Even the federal judge used Flynn to rail against what he saw as a treasonous plot. What is left in the wake of the prosecution is an utter travesty of justice.

Justice demands a dismissal of his prosecution. But whatever the "goal" may have been in setting up Flynn, justice was not one of them.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. You can find his updates online @JonathanTurley.

https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/495405-michael-flynn-case-should-be-dismissed-to-preserve-justice?amp
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The Hillary-Obama-Biden crew and their spy chiefs aided Putin in his goal as they pursued their own objective of casting Trump's presidency as illegitimate. They ran a Soviet-style Playbook, weaponizing intelligence resources and processes to spy on innocent Americans, such as Trump's former National Security Advisor, General Michael Flynn.
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Please state your counter arguments, with factual support, to the opinion stated in the article that Flynn was not entrapped. I am trying to learn.

FBI notes on Michael Flynn unlikely to convince judge he was entrapped, legal experts say - The Washington Post


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/fbi-notes-on-michael-flynn-unlikely-to-convince-judge-he-was-entrapped-legal-experts-say/2020/04/30/b340c55a-8b01-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/fbi-notes-on-michael-flynn-unlikely-to-convince-judge-he-was-entrapped-legal-experts-say/2020/04/30/b340c55a-8b01-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html%3foutputType=amp
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There are a lot of reasons. Among them:

  • Comey's admission that he didn't go through proper channels and get White House approval for the interview, where legal advice would've been provided.
  • The interviewers telling him he didn't need an attorney and that it was just a casual conversation, which was a lie and similar to a Miranda rights violation
  • They really didn't have a true legal right to have been monitoring his call to Kislyiak in the first place. That was based on the bogus basis that he had a fling with "a known associate of Russian intelligence" named Svetlana Lokhova, She was born in Russia but she was a professor in England with no connections to Russian intelligence whatsoever. They used their brief conversation at a banquet table as the basis for the ridiculous accusations and for monitoring Flynn's communications. Here's more on her: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-39863781.

There's a lot more than this but the fact that he was put through this whole process and the way it played out is a travesty of justice. The original interviewers themselves said in their notes they didn't think he was lying. And even if he did lie about what he talked to Kisliyak about and even if he had the conversation they accused him of having, that conversation was far from illegal so this is the flimsiest of process crimes imaginable, all designed to try and get him to flip on Trump and come up with any kind of damaging information on him he could. It was also to shut him up because as part of the Obama admin, he know of all kinds of damaging illegal surveillance that was being conducted so this was a preemptive move. He also objected to Obama's Iran policy while he served as Director of National Intelligence under Obama, which made him public enemy number one. Obama himself told Trump to not hire Flynn.

As said, there's a lot more exculpatory information they're using, too, but this judge seems to be a whack job based on some of the extremely inappropriate things he's said in court, so who knows where this goes?
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bearlyamazing said:

There are a lot of reasons. Among them:

  • Comey's admission that he didn't go through proper channels and get White House approval for the interview, where legal advice would've been provided.
  • The interviewers telling him he didn't need an attorney and that it was just a casual conversation, which was a lie and similar to a Miranda rights violation
  • They really didn't have a true legal right to have been monitoring his call to Kislyiak in the first place. That was based on the bogus basis that he had a fling with "a known associate of Russian intelligence" named Svetlana Lokhova, She was born in Russia but she was a professor in England with no connections to Russian intelligence whatsoever. They used their brief conversation at a banquet table as the basis for the ridiculous accusations and for monitoring Flynn's communications. Here's more on her: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-39863781.

There's a lot more than this but the fact that he was put through this whole process and the way it played out is a travesty of justice. The original interviewers themselves said in their notes they didn't think he was lying. And even if he did lie about what he talked to Kisliyak about and even if he had the conversation they accused him of having, that conversation was far from illegal so this is the flimsiest of process crimes imaginable, all designed to try and get him to flip on Trump and come up with any kind of damaging information on him he could. It was also to shut him up because as part of the Obama admin, he know of all kinds of damaging illegal surveillance that was being conducted so this was a preemptive move. He also objected to Obama's Iran policy while he served as Director of National Intelligence under Obama, which made him public enemy number one. Obama himself told Trump to not hire Flynn.

As said, there's a lot more exculpatory information they're using, too, but this judge seems to be a whack job based on some of the extremely inappropriate things he's said in court, so who knows where this goes?
Gee, given all that, why did Flynn plead guilty? The mind boggles.
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" Gee, given all that, why did Flynn plead guilty? The mind boggles."

Defense attorney response: He was entrapped. It's all they got.

The entire discussion is akin to "how many angels can you fit on the tip of a needle" since tRump will pardon him anyway.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bearlyamazing said:

There are a lot of reasons. Among them:

  • Comey's admission that he didn't go through proper channels and get White House approval for the interview, where legal advice would've been provided.
  • The interviewers telling him he didn't need an attorney and that it was just a casual conversation, which was a lie and similar to a Miranda rights violation
  • They really didn't have a true legal right to have been monitoring his call to Kislyiak in the first place. That was based on the bogus basis that he had a fling with "a known associate of Russian intelligence" named Svetlana Lokhova, She was born in Russia but she was a professor in England with no connections to Russian intelligence whatsoever. They used their brief conversation at a banquet table as the basis for the ridiculous accusations and for monitoring Flynn's communications. Here's more on her: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-39863781.

There's a lot more than this but the fact that he was put through this whole process and the way it played out is a travesty of justice. The original interviewers themselves said in their notes they didn't think he was lying. And even if he did lie about what he talked to Kisliyak about and even if he had the conversation they accused him of having, that conversation was far from illegal so this is the flimsiest of process crimes imaginable, all designed to try and get him to flip on Trump and come up with any kind of damaging information on him he could. It was also to shut him up because as part of the Obama admin, he know of all kinds of damaging illegal surveillance that was being conducted so this was a preemptive move. He also objected to Obama's Iran policy while he served as Director of National Intelligence under Obama, which made him public enemy number one. Obama himself told Trump to not hire Flynn.

As said, there's a lot more exculpatory information they're using, too, but this judge seems to be a whack job based on some of the extremely inappropriate things he's said in court, so who knows where this goes?
Gee, given all that, why did Flynn plead guilty? The mind boggles.
I answered your uninformed question in the other thread where you asked it. Apparently your mind is easily boggled. And way to ignore all the other information his current competent legal team has provided that I cited above, which is far from comprehensive. But go on feeling smug and smart. Maybe you can throw in another Flynn is a traitor reference like so many here have done over the past few years, just for good measure.
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Nice try. Comey admitted his role in setting up Flynn and this has been out there a long time for those how paid attention.

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#courage #hero to the right

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Unit2Sucks said:

#courage #hero to the right


Yeah, go ahead and ignore all the other evidence his attorneys have brought forward publicly and I've posted here for people who asked for proof about why he pled guilty and why he's changed his plea. That's the smart thing to do.

And you're one of the people who called General Flynn a traitor on this board many times and when asked why you'd call a decorated general who's served his country admirably for so long such a damning word (especially to a military man), you had no response. Because it's disgraceful and it's what the left does.
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bearlyamazing said:

Nice try. Comey admitted his role in setting up Flynn and this has been out there a long time for those how paid attention.


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Fired FBI director James Comey told MSNBC's Nicole Wallace during a December 2019 conversation that he "sent" FBI agents to be in the room during an interrogation of fired national security adviser Michael Flynn. Flynn eventually plead guilty to lying to FBI agents but is now seeking to withdraw the plea.

When asked how there were other FBI agents there Comey said he "sent them," noting it is "something we, I probably wouldn't have done or gotten away with in a more organized investigation -- a more organized administration."
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bearlyamazing said:

Unit2Sucks said:

#courage #hero to the right


Yeah, go ahead and ignore all the other evidence his attorneys have brought forward publicly and I've posted here for people who asked for proof about why he pled guilty and why he's changed his plea. That's the smart thing to do.

And you're one of the people who called General Flynn a traitor on this board many times and when asked why you'd call a decorated general who's served his country admirably for so long such a damning word (especially to a military man), you had no response. Because it's disgraceful and it's what the left does.
Flynn is a traitor and in addition to lying to the FBI, now you are claiming he lied to a federal judge. Same guy who took money from Russia and sat next to Putin. Oh and lobbied for Turkey. Was he exonerated of the claims that he and his son were going to arrange the kidnapping of that Cleric? I can't recall.

What did Trump think of him?



bearlyamazing's hero.
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He was only going with the information available at the time. Trump obviously has felt quite different about Flynn and how he was entrapped for quite a while and you know it.

More of the mountains of evidence:

FBI found no 'derogatory' Russia evidence on Flynn, planned to close case before leaders intervened


FBI memos show case was to be closed with a defensive briefing before a second interview with Flynn was sought.

Evidence withheld for years from Michael Flynn's defense team shows the FBI found "no derogatory" Russia evidence against the former Trump National Security Adviser and that counterintelligence agents had recommended closing down the case with a defensive briefing before the bureau's leadership intervened in January 2017.

The recommendation to close the case came 16 days before President Trump took office with plans to have Flynn serve as his National Security Adviser, and after agents had found no incriminating evidence by sweeping counterintelligence files and talking to confidential human sources, the memos show.
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Flynn was given a codename of "Crossfire Razor" during the probe, an apparent spinoff from the larger Russia collusion case known as Crossfire Hurricane.

"The absence of any derogatory information or lead information from these logical sources reduce the number of investigative avenues and techniques to pursue. Per the direction of FBI management, Crossfire Razor was not interviewed as part of the case closing procedure. The FBI is closing this investigation," the agent wrote on Jan. 4, 2017.

The release of the memo Thursday is the result of extraordinary efforts by Attorney General William Barr to bring transparency to a case that dogged the beginning of the Trump presidency and has since dissolved into controversy over the FBI conduct during it. Barr has named a special prosecutor to review the bureau's handling of Flynn and determined if any criminal charges are warranted.

The files show the plan was to provide Flynn with a defensive briefing so he could be aware of potential pitfalls with Russians as he started in his new job in the White House. But then the lead agent in the larger Russia case, Peter Strzok, intervened to stop the case from being closed and pivoted the discussion toward seeking an interview with Flynn, FBI text messages show.

In the text messages to his team, Strzok specifically cited "the 7th floor" of FBI headquarters, where then-Director James Comey and then-Deputy Director Andrew McCane worked, as the reason he intervened.

"Hey if you haven't closed RAZOR, don't do so yet," Strzok texted on Jan. 4, 2017.

"It is still open and I'm still listed as the case manager," his colleague texted back.

"Rgr, I couldn't raise earlier. Please keep it open for now," Strzok texted. Later he added, "7th floor involved."
The text messages show the discussion pivoted from closing the case to seeking an interview with Flynn, and suggest there was a dispute between McCabe and his top counterintelligence official, Assistant Director William Priestap, who appeared to be concerned the FBI was being unfair to Flynn.

"About Bill. He was pretty adamant about what Andy it [sic] said with regard to that," Strzok texted Lisa Page, then a lawyer working for McCabe. "And he mentioned on Saturday that he had several conversations with Andy. Bill sense with it [sic] and he wanted to know why he had to go aggressively doing these things, openly. I worry Bill isn't getting the underlying distinction that I think is clear but maybe I'm wrong."

Strzok's followup text messages suggest Priestap went to Director Comey (referred to as D) because of his concerns about McCabe's approach.

"Bill just told [deleted) and me that he brought up again, this time in front of D didn't know he was going to D on that," Strzok texted.

Page texted back that her boss, McCabe, appeared to be upset.

"Yeah, DD is frustrated. Going into meeting. Don't repeat," she texted back.

"I won't. Bill said D started going one way and DD cut him off," Strzok wrote. "I'd be frustrated too."
You can read the text messages here: FlynnCaseTextMessages.pdf

Handwritten notes that a federal court released Wednesday show Priestap harbored concerns that the FBI was "playing games" with the Flynn investigation and may have been trying to use the interview to "get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?" conducted by Strzok and another agent that resulted in the former Trump National Security Adviser resigning and eventually pleading guilty to lying in the interview.

Flynn has since retained new counsel, Sidney Powell, and sought to vacate his conviction on grounds that the new evidence shows an effort by the FBI to "frame" him for a crime he did not commit.
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Flynn was and is a dirtbag. Everyone knew it. That's the only reason he was involved with Trump - because Trump couldn't get anyone who wasn't a dirtbag to be seen with him.

Obama warned Trump about Flynn but Trump didn't listen.

I can see how he's bearlyamazing's hero though since both Flynn and his son are suckers for right-wing conspiracy theories. I didnt't realize until now that bearlyamazing deifies people that lie to law enforcement, but I guess that's because I'm an optimist.
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All these idiots will eventually be expert commentators on Fox or MSNBC.
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Unit2Sucks said:

Flynn was and is a dirtbag. Everyone knew it. That's the only reason he was involved with Trump - because Trump couldn't get anyone who wasn't a dirtbag to be seen with him.

Obama warned Trump about Flynn but Trump didn't listen.

I can see how he's bearlyamazing's hero though since both Flynn and his son are suckers for right-wing conspiracy theories. I didnt't realize until now that bearlyamazing deifies people that lie to law enforcement, but I guess that's because I'm an optimist.
I told you exactly why Obama and Yates warned Trump not to hire him. Like they were concerned about the Trump admin anyway. They went out of their way to screw him over every which way in the transition.

Flynn was his DNI and publicly opposed Obama's Iran policy, which made him public enemy #1 to Obama. He could also expose all of the illegal surveillance the Obama administration conducted so they had to shut him up quickly. Information about the illegal surveillance has been out there for years and the left has conveniently ignored it.
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bearlyamazing said:

There are a lot of reasons. Among them:

  • Comey's admission that he didn't go through proper channels and get White House approval for the interview, where legal advice would've been provided.
  • The interviewers telling him he didn't need an attorney and that it was just a casual conversation, which was a lie and similar to a Miranda rights violation
  • They really didn't have a true legal right to have been monitoring his call to Kislyiak in the first place. That was based on the bogus basis that he had a fling with "a known associate of Russian intelligence" named Svetlana Lokhova, She was born in Russia but she was a professor in England with no connections to Russian intelligence whatsoever. They used their brief conversation at a banquet table as the basis for the ridiculous accusations and for monitoring Flynn's communications. Here's more on her: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-39863781.

There's a lot more than this but the fact that he was put through this whole process and the way it played out is a travesty of justice. The original interviewers themselves said in their notes they didn't think he was lying. And even if he did lie about what he talked to Kisliyak about and even if he had the conversation they accused him of having, that conversation was far from illegal so this is the flimsiest of process crimes imaginable, all designed to try and get him to flip on Trump and come up with any kind of damaging information on him he could. It was also to shut him up because as part of the Obama admin, he know of all kinds of damaging illegal surveillance that was being conducted so this was a preemptive move. He also objected to Obama's Iran policy while he served as Director of National Intelligence under Obama, which made him public enemy number one. Obama himself told Trump to not hire Flynn.

As said, there's a lot more exculpatory information they're using, too, but this judge seems to be a whack job based on some of the extremely inappropriate things he's said in court, so who knows where this goes?
The arguments used by right-wingers in Flynn's defense are incredibly similar to the arguments they ridicule when used by criminals they don't have a political interest in: the state was determined to get him, they were biased against him, they didn't follow procedure, they lied to him, they manufactured probable cause to gather evidence, his attorneys were incompetent, the judge didn't like him, the law he was being investigated under was unconstitutional, etc. Will "conservatives" now support releasing hundreds of thousands of other criminals who were convicted under similar circumstances? No, of course not.

Flynn lied to the FBI. I'm not sure lying to the FBI should be a crime (particularly not punishable by up to 8 years in prison) but he did lie and he knew it was a crime. He lied because he knew was guilty of willfully breaking the Logan Act. If Flynn thought the act was unconstitutional, the honorable thing to do would have been to confess the truth and challenge the law in court but Michael Flynn is not an honorable person. That much should be obvious from his work as an unregistered agent for the government of Turkey (though he later tried to cover his ass by registering as a foreign agent 5 months after his contract ended), for which he was paid half a million dollars. Flynn did not face prosecution for this illegal activity due to the terms of his plea deal, but the lack of prosecution does not mean Flynn did not act dishonorably or break the law.

Flynn, Stone, Manafort -- "conservatives" make a mockery of "law & order" by defending these scumbags who have no regard for the law.
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bearlyamazing said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Flynn was and is a dirtbag. Everyone knew it. That's the only reason he was involved with Trump - because Trump couldn't get anyone who wasn't a dirtbag to be seen with him.

Obama warned Trump about Flynn but Trump didn't listen.

I can see how he's bearlyamazing's hero though since both Flynn and his son are suckers for right-wing conspiracy theories. I didnt't realize until now that bearlyamazing deifies people that lie to law enforcement, but I guess that's because I'm an optimist.
I told you exactly why Obama and Yates warned Trump not to hire him. Like they were concerned about the Trump admin anyway. They went out of their way to screw him over every which way in the transition.

Flynn was his DNI and publicly opposed Obama's Iran policy, which made him public enemy #1 to Obama. He could also expose all of the illegal surveillance the Obama administration conducted so they had to shut him up quickly. Information about the illegal surveillance has been out there for years and the left has conveniently ignored it.
Yet the esteemed General who was working for Turkey as a foreign agent pleaded guilty and when asked if he thought he was entrapped he replied "NO"! It's odd that a man so innocent would stand in a federal court in front of a federal judge and plead guilty.
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bearlyamazing said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Flynn was and is a dirtbag. Everyone knew it. That's the only reason he was involved with Trump - because Trump couldn't get anyone who wasn't a dirtbag to be seen with him.

Obama warned Trump about Flynn but Trump didn't listen.

I can see how he's bearlyamazing's hero though since both Flynn and his son are suckers for right-wing conspiracy theories. I didnt't realize until now that bearlyamazing deifies people that lie to law enforcement, but I guess that's because I'm an optimist.
I told you exactly why Obama and Yates warned Trump not to hire him. Like they were concerned about the Trump admin anyway. They went out of their way to screw him over every which way in the transition.

Flynn was his DNI and publicly opposed Obama's Iran policy, which made him public enemy #1 to Obama. He could also expose all of the illegal surveillance the Obama administration conducted so they had to shut him up quickly. Information about the illegal surveillance has been out there for years and the left has conveniently ignored it.
LOL, I hope the DOJ throws the book at Flynn. They should break his plea deal and go after him for his unregistered lobbying and other crimes. Or maybe they can do what Trump said "we used to do to traitors".

Hopefully President Biden wastes no time re-establishing the DOJ after Trump gets crushed in November.

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What a joke. The Logan Act? Please tell me the last time anyone was ever prosecuted for that. Answer? Never.

You clowns want to throw the book at conservatives only and only when it suits your needs.

If the book should be thrown at General Flynn, the library should be thrown at Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Halper, Priestap and so many other people who have done FAR more damage legally then Flynn.
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How would you like Bearister repping you as your attorney if a corrupt government agency came after you.Frightening, isn't it.
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bearlyamazing said:

What a joke. The Logan Act? Please tell me the last time anyone was ever prosecuted for that. Answer? Never.

You clowns want to throw the book at conservatives only and only when it suits your needs.

If the book should be thrown at General Flynn, the library should be thrown at Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Halper, Priestap and so many other people who have done FAR more damage legally then Flynn.


The joke is you want to prosecute people for doing their jobs but celebrate traitors like Flynn. On Election Day he should have been focused on the transition and preparing to be DNI but instead he was taking money to write an OpEd for Turkey. He was a foreign agent and a huge security risk as DNI but you worship him.

I guess it makes sense since you have fallen hook line and sinker for Trump and his cronies. I hope you enjoy sending your campaign donations to Kimberly Guildoyle and other Trump cronies on the campaign payroll.

When did conservatives stop start carrying water for traitors who are on foreign government payrolls and lie about it? You used to punish people like that.
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bearlyamazing said:

What a joke. The Logan Act? Please tell me the last time anyone was ever prosecuted for that. Answer? Never.

You clowns want to throw the book at conservatives only and only when it suits your needs.

If the book should be thrown at General Flynn, the library should be thrown at Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Halper, Priestap and so many other people who have done FAR more damage legally then Flynn.
Logan act? Kerry meting with his and O's friends, the Iranians about a year ago. I hope they throw Sally's ass in jail.
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Unit2Sucks said:

Hopefully President Biden wastes no time re-establishing the DOJ after Trump gets crushed in November.


I think it's highly unlikely there will be a President Biden.
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Unit2Sucks said:

bearlyamazing said:

What a joke. The Logan Act? Please tell me the last time anyone was ever prosecuted for that. Answer? Never.

You clowns want to throw the book at conservatives only and only when it suits your needs.

If the book should be thrown at General Flynn, the library should be thrown at Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Halper, Priestap and so many other people who have done FAR more damage legally then Flynn.


The joke is you want to prosecute people for doing their jobs but celebrate traitors like Flynn. On Election Day he should have been focused on the transition and preparing to be DNI but instead he was taking money to write an OpEd for Turkey. He was a foreign agent and a huge security risk as DNI but you worship him.

I guess it makes sense since you have fallen hook line and sinker for Trump and his cronies. I hope you enjoy sending your campaign donations to Kimberly Guildoyle and other Trump cronies on the campaign payroll.

When did conservatives stop start carrying water for traitors who are on foreign government payrolls and lie about it? You used to punish people like that.
Some of the nonsense you post here is absolutely laughable. Prosecute people for doing their job? Really? Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok, Page, Priestap, McCabe and the rest of the sorry stooges just earnestly doing their jobs? How f'ing gullible are you? Seriously. This is just beyond belief, even from you.
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bearlyamazing said:

Unit2Sucks said:

bearlyamazing said:

What a joke. The Logan Act? Please tell me the last time anyone was ever prosecuted for that. Answer? Never.

You clowns want to throw the book at conservatives only and only when it suits your needs.

If the book should be thrown at General Flynn, the library should be thrown at Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Halper, Priestap and so many other people who have done FAR more damage legally then Flynn.


The joke is you want to prosecute people for doing their jobs but celebrate traitors like Flynn. On Election Day he should have been focused on the transition and preparing to be DNI but instead he was taking money to write an OpEd for Turkey. He was a foreign agent and a huge security risk as DNI but you worship him.

I guess it makes sense since you have fallen hook line and sinker for Trump and his cronies. I hope you enjoy sending your campaign donations to Kimberly Guildoyle and other Trump cronies on the campaign payroll.

When did conservatives stop start carrying water for traitors who are on foreign government payrolls and lie about it? You used to punish people like that.
Some of the nonsense you post here is absolutely laughable. Prosecute people for doing their job? Really? Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok, Page, Priestap, McCabe and the rest of the sorry stooges just earnestly doing their jobs? How f'ing gullible are you? Seriously. This is just beyond belief, even from you.


Believe it or not I enjoy being lectured by someone with a PhD in right wing YouTube conspiracy theories. It would worry me if someone like you who is unable to discern reality from Alex Jones fantasy somehow agreed with me.

Fortunately there will always be another conspiracy theory to capture your fancy and entertain the rest of us.

Let us know when you contribute to Traitor Flynn's legal defense fund and how that works out for you.
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Unit2Sucks said:

bearlyamazing said:

Unit2Sucks said:

bearlyamazing said:

What a joke. The Logan Act? Please tell me the last time anyone was ever prosecuted for that. Answer? Never.

You clowns want to throw the book at conservatives only and only when it suits your needs.

If the book should be thrown at General Flynn, the library should be thrown at Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Halper, Priestap and so many other people who have done FAR more damage legally then Flynn.


The joke is you want to prosecute people for doing their jobs but celebrate traitors like Flynn. On Election Day he should have been focused on the transition and preparing to be DNI but instead he was taking money to write an OpEd for Turkey. He was a foreign agent and a huge security risk as DNI but you worship him.

I guess it makes sense since you have fallen hook line and sinker for Trump and his cronies. I hope you enjoy sending your campaign donations to Kimberly Guildoyle and other Trump cronies on the campaign payroll.

When did conservatives stop start carrying water for traitors who are on foreign government payrolls and lie about it? You used to punish people like that.
Some of the nonsense you post here is absolutely laughable. Prosecute people for doing their job? Really? Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok, Page, Priestap, McCabe and the rest of the sorry stooges just earnestly doing their jobs? How f'ing gullible are you? Seriously. This is just beyond belief, even from you.


Believe it or not I enjoy being lectured by someone with a PhD in right wing YouTube conspiracy theories. It would worry me if someone like you who is unable to discern reality from Alex Jones fantasy somehow agreed with me.

Fortunately there will always be another conspiracy theory to capture your fancy and entertain the rest of us.

Let us know when you contribute to Traitor Flynn's legal defense fund and how that works out for you.
You're pathetic. You've seen reams of evidence and people fired for cause from these clowns you say are "just trying to do their job" and when continually faced with facts and evidence, even reluctantly by the mainstream media, you turn to the stupid conspiracy theory crap. I don't believe you're stupid but you sure post some stupid and blatantly disingenuous bull**** here with regularity. Who exactly are you trying to convince with this crap? And your continuing to call General Flynn a traitor says a lot about your character. Or lack thereof.
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bearlyamazing said:

Unit2Sucks said:

bearlyamazing said:

What a joke. The Logan Act? Please tell me the last time anyone was ever prosecuted for that. Answer? Never.

You clowns want to throw the book at conservatives only and only when it suits your needs.

If the book should be thrown at General Flynn, the library should be thrown at Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Halper, Priestap and so many other people who have done FAR more damage legally then Flynn.


The joke is you want to prosecute people for doing their jobs but celebrate traitors like Flynn. On Election Day he should have been focused on the transition and preparing to be DNI but instead he was taking money to write an OpEd for Turkey. He was a foreign agent and a huge security risk as DNI but you worship him.

I guess it makes sense since you have fallen hook line and sinker for Trump and his cronies. I hope you enjoy sending your campaign donations to Kimberly Guildoyle and other Trump cronies on the campaign payroll.

When did conservatives stop start carrying water for traitors who are on foreign government payrolls and lie about it? You used to punish people like that.
Some of the nonsense you post here is absolutely laughable. Prosecute people for doing their job? Really? Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok, Page, Priestap, McCabe and the rest of the sorry stooges just earnestly doing their jobs? How f'ing gullible are you? Seriously. This is just beyond belief, even from you.
It's stunning really to watch crazy in action. You're the dude in the basement reading his rice krispies for signs from God accusing the rest of the world with having lost their way. "Why won't anyone listen to my truuuuuuttttth!!!!"

I've wasted by breath with you before, but you seriously need counseling.
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blungld said:

bearlyamazing said:

Unit2Sucks said:

bearlyamazing said:

What a joke. The Logan Act? Please tell me the last time anyone was ever prosecuted for that. Answer? Never.

You clowns want to throw the book at conservatives only and only when it suits your needs.

If the book should be thrown at General Flynn, the library should be thrown at Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Halper, Priestap and so many other people who have done FAR more damage legally then Flynn.


The joke is you want to prosecute people for doing their jobs but celebrate traitors like Flynn. On Election Day he should have been focused on the transition and preparing to be DNI but instead he was taking money to write an OpEd for Turkey. He was a foreign agent and a huge security risk as DNI but you worship him.

I guess it makes sense since you have fallen hook line and sinker for Trump and his cronies. I hope you enjoy sending your campaign donations to Kimberly Guildoyle and other Trump cronies on the campaign payroll.

When did conservatives stop start carrying water for traitors who are on foreign government payrolls and lie about it? You used to punish people like that.
Some of the nonsense you post here is absolutely laughable. Prosecute people for doing their job? Really? Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok, Page, Priestap, McCabe and the rest of the sorry stooges just earnestly doing their jobs? How f'ing gullible are you? Seriously. This is just beyond belief, even from you.
It's stunning really to watch crazy in action. You're the dude in the basement reading his rice krispies for signs from God accusing the rest of the world with having lost their way. "Why won't anyone listen to my truuuuuuttttth!!!!"

I've wasted by breath with you before, but you seriously need counseling.
Only a pathetic dip**** leftist wacko would call anything I've written here crazy. One of the left's most commonly used, favorite pitiful, deceitful tactics is to try and invalidate those who don't walk in lockstep with them and stupidly accept their lies by calling them "crazy."

It just kills you that someone here is disturbing your peaceful little garden of lockstep hatred for Trump and conservatives. It's really very sad.
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The Case Against Michael Flynn Now Looks a Lot Weaker

The FBI applied the squeeze in a way that undermines the rule of law.

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bearlyamazing said:

blungld said:


It's stunning really to watch crazy in action. You're the dude in the basement reading his rice krispies for signs from God accusing the rest of the world with having lost their way. "Why won't anyone listen to my truuuuuuttttth!!!!"

I've wasted by breath with you before, but you seriously need counseling.
Only a pathetic dip**** leftist wacko would call anything I've written here crazy. One of the left's most commonly used, favorite pitiful, deceitful tactics is to try and invalidate those who don't walk in lockstep with them and stupidly accept their lies by calling them "crazy."

It just kills you that someone here is disturbing your peaceful little garden of lockstep hatred for Trump and conservatives. It's really very sad.

They have TDS. Ventilators won't help, Clorox is the only hope.
Unit2Sucks
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bearlyamazing said:

Unit2Sucks said:

bearlyamazing said:

Unit2Sucks said:

bearlyamazing said:

What a joke. The Logan Act? Please tell me the last time anyone was ever prosecuted for that. Answer? Never.

You clowns want to throw the book at conservatives only and only when it suits your needs.

If the book should be thrown at General Flynn, the library should be thrown at Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, Halper, Priestap and so many other people who have done FAR more damage legally then Flynn.


The joke is you want to prosecute people for doing their jobs but celebrate traitors like Flynn. On Election Day he should have been focused on the transition and preparing to be DNI but instead he was taking money to write an OpEd for Turkey. He was a foreign agent and a huge security risk as DNI but you worship him.

I guess it makes sense since you have fallen hook line and sinker for Trump and his cronies. I hope you enjoy sending your campaign donations to Kimberly Guildoyle and other Trump cronies on the campaign payroll.

When did conservatives stop start carrying water for traitors who are on foreign government payrolls and lie about it? You used to punish people like that.
Some of the nonsense you post here is absolutely laughable. Prosecute people for doing their job? Really? Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok, Page, Priestap, McCabe and the rest of the sorry stooges just earnestly doing their jobs? How f'ing gullible are you? Seriously. This is just beyond belief, even from you.


Believe it or not I enjoy being lectured by someone with a PhD in right wing YouTube conspiracy theories. It would worry me if someone like you who is unable to discern reality from Alex Jones fantasy somehow agreed with me.

Fortunately there will always be another conspiracy theory to capture your fancy and entertain the rest of us.

Let us know when you contribute to Traitor Flynn's legal defense fund and how that works out for you.
You're pathetic. You've seen reams of evidence and people fired for cause from these clowns you say are "just trying to do their job" and when continually faced with facts and evidence, even reluctantly by the mainstream media, you turn to the stupid conspiracy theory crap. I don't believe you're stupid but you sure post some stupid and blatantly disingenuous bull**** here with regularity. Who exactly are you trying to convince with this crap? And your continuing to call General Flynn a traitor says a lot about your character. Or lack thereof.
Here in the real world Trump's DOJ prosecuted Flynn, Manafort, Gates, the coffee boy, Cohen and Stone and none of the people you've accused of wrongdoing. Flynn sold out his country for Turkish $$ and yet you breathlessly defend him. You Gish Gallop from conspiracy theory to conspiracy theory and probably never wonder why it is that things don't work out the way you expect them to.

Call me when the number of convicted people you've criticized exceeds the number of Trump associates convicted. Meanwhile, and not coincidentally, thousands of Americans die every day in a crisis that Trump has completely botched. It's not a coincidence that Trump has been throwing out red meat for the base to distract from yet another disaster he's overseeing as commander in chief. How many more crises will Trump need to botch before you start to realize that he's not the night in shining armor that you dream about at night?
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