BancroftBear93 said:

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https://images.app.goo.gl/u3cWUaCRvdSUU4g46

I mean, Okaydo's dick could fit through that, but not much else.

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On the left is somebody's arm. Clearly, several of that person's arms can fit through that noose.

If that noose makes you think of dicks, perhaps you've been perusing too many gay porn sites.

calpoly said:

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BancroftBear93 said:

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https://images.app.goo.gl/u3cWUaCRvdSUU4g46

I mean, Okaydo's dick could fit through that, but not much else.

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You need to grow-up.

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I am not sure why I am engaging because B93 has shown the level at which he wants to operate, but... the noose is a symbol. It is not meant to be functional.

Does it matter what size swastika you paint on the wall?

I'm glad my wife brought this to my attention before my Evangelical golfing buddies (with their Brad Parscale targeted Facebook news feeds) bring it to my attention tomorrow morning as "recent" monument vandalism.

Problem is: it doesn't matter that it is fake and been debunked. It validates the assumptions of all the little brain dead MAGAts, so they will run with it and spread it to all their brain dead Trumpkin friends and family. When presented with evidence that it is a hoax, they will shout "FAKE NEWS! Make America Great Again! BLM and Antifa are fascist socialists! White lives matter more!"

Yes, all Fact Checking organizations are part of THE DEEP STATE.

AunBear89 said:

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their view that all protesters are thugs and looters.

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strawman alert

AunBear89 said:

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Problem is: it doesn't matter that it is fake and been debunked. It validates the assumptions of all the little brain dead MAGAts, so they will run with it and spread it to all their brain dead Trumpkin friends and family. When presented with evidence that it is a hoax, they will shout "FAKE NEWS! Make America Great Again! BLM and Antifa are fascist socialists! White lives matter more!"

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More strawmen and deflection. These are really egregious even for you.

GBear4Life said:

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AunBear89 said:

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their view that all protesters are thugs and looters.

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strawman alert

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Yes, AunBear may be the original straw man, but he is at least making an effort to find a brain. Maybe one day he will find one.

okaydo said:

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BancroftBear93 said:

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I mean, Okaydo's dick could fit through that, but not much else.

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On the left is somebody's arm. Clearly, several of that person's arms can fit through that noose.

If that noose makes you think of dicks, perhaps you've been perusing too many gay porn sites.

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Well, since Bearister won't do it...

bearister said:

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At least your treatise is only half as long as SFCityBear's post basketball game analysis.

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I've never written anything half that long.

SFCityBear said:

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bearister said:

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At least your treatise is only half as long as SFCityBear's post basketball game analysis.

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I've never written anything half that long.

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I tease you SFCB, as you know, I am your # 1 fan....and I read all your posts....and welcome to Off Topic, I have no recollection of you posting here.

calbear93 said:

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Yes, AunBear may be the original straw man, but he is at least making an effort to find a brain.

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Is he?

For people who support this "movement."

What is too far?

I ask because incrementalism makes it hard for people to stop and say "This is too far" when it goes from statues of Lee, to Jackson, to Grant, to memorials to soldiers, to Missionaries, to Lincoln, to Jefferson, to Washington.

It makes it hard to stop and remember who you are when it goes from protesting, to mild vandalism, to major vandalism, to looting, to arson, to autonomous zones, to secession, to civil war.

Those seem like big jumps, but they happen in very small steps.


Even if you dont post it here, think to yourself, honestly, "what is too far." Write it down, so you remember where you stand when the line gets moved beyond what you would be comfortable with without incrementalism. I understand that 100% of you (and me) have already moved our "too far" line, but right NOW. "What is too far?"

There are a LOT of small steps between locking up people for murder and locking up people for "resisting arrest." Those small steps never being checked with a "What is too far?" is why we have this movement now.

Without a understood limit, the slippery slope argument is not a fallacy. It is chaos and torture and mass incarceration.

LunchTime said:

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For people who support this "movement."

What is too far?

I ask because incrementalism makes it hard for people to stop and say "This is too far" when it goes from statues of Lee, to Jackson, to Grant, to memorials to soldiers, to Missionaries, to Lincoln, to Jefferson, to Washington.

It makes it hard to stop and remember who you are when it goes from protesting, to mild vandalism, to major vandalism, to looting, to arson, to autonomous zones, to secession, to civil war.

Those seem like big jumps, but they happen in very small steps.


Even if you dont post it here, think to yourself, honestly, "what is too far." Write it down, so you remember where you stand when the line gets moved beyond what you would be comfortable with without incrementalism. I understand that 100% of you (and me) have already moved our "too far" line, but right NOW. "What is too far?"

There are a LOT of small steps between locking up people for murder and locking up people for "resisting arrest." Those small steps never being checked with a "What is too far?" is why we have this movement now.

Without a understood limit, the slippery slope argument is not a fallacy. It is chaos and torture and mass incarceration.

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Lunchtime - I really enjoy reading your posts. One of the rare times on this board I feel persuaded to stop and think. Post more often.

GBear4Life said:

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calbear93 said:

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Yes, AunBear may be the original straw man, but he is at least making an effort to find a brain.

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Is he?

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You're right. He probably is not. But back to skipping over his posts again.

AunBear89 said:

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Problem is: it doesn't matter that it is fake and been debunked. It validates the assumptions of all the little brain dead MAGAts, so they will run with it and spread it to all their brain dead Trumpkin friends and family. When presented with evidence that it is a hoax, they will shout "FAKE NEWS! Make America Great Again! BLM and Antifa are fascist socialists! White lives matter more!"

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AunBear89 said:

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Oh no! They're coming after my lawn gnome next!

Better go hide your lawn jockey, LMK5!

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AunBear.....relax.

Unit2Sucks said:

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Let this be a lesson to everyone: if cops start brutalizing statues, there will be hell to pay from Bear Insiders. That should teach them to keep to assaulting black men and protesters and stay away from the stuff you guys really care about.

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Well said.

kelly09 said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Problem is: it doesn't matter that it is fake and been debunked. It validates the assumptions of all the little brain dead MAGAts, so they will run with it and spread it to all their brain dead Trumpkin friends and family. When presented with evidence that it is a hoax, they will shout "FAKE NEWS! Make America Great Again! BLM and Antifa are fascist socialists! White lives matter more!"

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I don't want to unwhittingly condone Whit Fragility, but I am at my Whits end on how we came to condoning violence against all Whits. It isn't as if all Whits are Whit supremacist.

Besides, I liked his movie and would prefer he live a bit longer.

kelly09 said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Oh no! They're coming after my lawn gnome next!

Better go hide your lawn jockey, LMK5!

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AunBear.....relax.

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Should I feel bad about myself when I laugh at something funny that a kelly09 or a BearForce2 posts? Possible guilt feelings, but, hey, I thought the Biden/AOC joke was pretty good, too.

LunchTime said:

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For people who support this "movement."

What is too far?

I ask because incrementalism makes it hard for people to stop and say "This is too far" when it goes from statues of Lee, to Jackson, to Grant, to memorials to soldiers, to Missionaries, to Lincoln, to Jefferson, to Washington.

It makes it hard to stop and remember who you are when it goes from protesting, to mild vandalism, to major vandalism, to looting, to arson, to autonomous zones, to secession, to civil war.

Those seem like big jumps, but they happen in very small steps.


Even if you dont post it here, think to yourself, honestly, "what is too far." Write it down, so you remember where you stand when the line gets moved beyond what you would be comfortable with without incrementalism. I understand that 100% of you (and me) have already moved our "too far" line, but right NOW. "What is too far?"

There are a LOT of small steps between locking up people for murder and locking up people for "resisting arrest." Those small steps never being checked with a "What is too far?" is why we have this movement now.

Without a understood limit, the slippery slope argument is not a fallacy. It is chaos and torture and mass incarceration.

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Tactically, it's dumb. Dumb because it alienates people you might ally with and dumb because it trivializes and reduces everything to a culture war. A culture war is exactly what the Democrats and Republicans want because it deflects from their own failures. Bill de Blaiso can rename a square " Black Lives Matter" to distract from his "management" of NYC police , his anti-semitism and his responsibility for thousands of deaths due to his Covid failure. On the other side we'll hear about lawlessness, outside agitators looters and the tearing down of the fabric that binds us- as if there were such a thing.

This emphasis on cultural wars is, of course, the hand work of the college educated. Poor blacks aren't so stupid as to be interested in a statue of Grant; they are interested in jobs, justice and health care.

What needs to be done is to build economic and political power- not an easy task-and put pressure that way- a strike of essential workers across industries would be an example. But that's a hard ( almost impossible) task now as the US labor market has been turned into a continuing downward spiral with little organization, connectivity or coherence. On the political side, build mutual aid groups- already happening- outside of government and aim for a coup of Democrats since Republicans are hopeless.

okaydo said:

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BancroftBear93 said:

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https://images.app.goo.gl/u3cWUaCRvdSUU4g46

I mean, Okaydo's dick could fit through that, but not much else.

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On the left is somebody's arm. Clearly, several of that person's arms can fit through that noose.

If that noose makes you think of dicks, perhaps you've been perusing too many gay porn sites.

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Did you just call me a *** as an insult? How many gay porn sites would be too many, in your estimation? Tsk tsk, how very un-woke of you, Mr. Micro-***** (not that there's anything wrong with your tiny *****).

calpoly said:

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BancroftBear93 said:

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https://images.app.goo.gl/u3cWUaCRvdSUU4g46

I mean, Okaydo's dick could fit through that, but not much else.

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You need to grow-up.

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You're dull.

Riiiighr. Cuz d!ck size jokes are soo funny. Hear any other good ones at the frat house while hazing pledges?

https://imgur.com/a/WcDO4vr

edg64 said:

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This is likely not a serious question, but in fact people WERE talking about these things when Obama was President. It just often takes some major inciting incident to drive broad change on the societal level, but those same issues were always bubbling for years before that spark happened.

Was slavery also fine until Lincoln was President?

Next they will say Obama refuses to allow the Redskins to change their name.

It's just typical disingenuous ****posting from people who everyone should have on ignore.

Unit2Sucks said:

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Next they will say Obama refuses to allow the Redskins to change their name.

It's just typical disingenuous ****posting from people who everyone should have on ignore.

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Did you know Democrats were once the party of slavery? DID YOU KNOW THAT?!

AND, Abraham Lincoln, POTUS over 155 years ago, was a Republican! Yes- the Very Same Grand Old Party as back then!

sycasey said:

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Did you know Democrats were once the party of slavery? DID YOU KNOW THAT?!

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But then Nixon convinced the Dixiecrats (Southern Democrats) to take control of the Republican party, from Newt to Moscow Mitch they have done just that.

sycasey said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Next they will say Obama refuses to allow the Redskins to change their name.

It's just typical disingenuous ****posting from people who everyone should have on ignore.

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Did you know Democrats were once the party of slavery? DID YOU KNOW THAT?!

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They still are

Garou said:

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sycasey said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Next they will say Obama refuses to allow the Redskins to change their name.

It's just typical disingenuous ****posting from people who everyone should have on ignore.

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Did you know Democrats were once the party of slavery? DID YOU KNOW THAT?!

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They still are

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