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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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He's both. The families of every soldier lost during this period and every soldier with boots on the ground should be horrified and pissed that the "Commander In Chief" did jack **** to protect those that fight and protect those of us at home.

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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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He's both. The families of every soldier lost during this period and every soldier with boots on the ground should be horrified and pissed that the "Commander In Chief" did jack **** to protect those that fight and protect those of us at home.

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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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He's both. The families of every soldier lost during this period and every soldier with boots on the ground should be horrified and pissed that the "Commander In Chief" did jack **** to protect those that fight and protect those of us at home.

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Yes, but veterans overall will likely vote for Trump again in November. This is the leadership veterans asked for.

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Veterans will usually vote for conservative leadership but when a leader allows Russia to place bounties on the heads of soldiers putting their family members in grave danger by not responding to a $100,000.00 bounties, they will be pissed. Inaction by a Commander in Chief is what veterans and millitary families will find to be unconscionable.

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Yes, but veterans overall will likely vote for Trump again in November. This is the leadership veterans asked for.

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Other Democratic groups around the nation are also seeking leverage with the military vote. "We believe that Trump's support within the military, with military families and with veterans, is soft and receding," said Jon Soltz, a founder of VoteVets, which has been increasingly successful in electing Democratic veterans. "Our plan for the fall is simple: We're putting together the most comprehensive data-driven veteran and military family get-out-the-vote operation the Democratic Party has ever seen, and we will deploy it to ensure Donald Trump is a one-term president."

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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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He's both. The families of every soldier lost during this period and every soldier with boots on the ground should be horrified and pissed that the "Commander In Chief" did jack **** to protect those that fight and protect those of us at home.

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Yes, but veterans overall will likely vote for Trump again in November. This is the leadership veterans asked for.

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Veterans will usually vote for conservative leadership but when a leader allows Russia to place bounties on the heads of soldiers putting their family members in grave danger by not responding to a $100,000.00 bounties, they will be pissed. Inaction by a Commander in Chief is what veterans and millitary families will find to be unconscionable.

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And what response would you have liked?

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The first thing is to have Captain Catastrophe actually read the daily briefings so he knows what the hell is going on in a country where there is a significant U.S. military presence. Next, I would let Russia know in no uncertain terms that bounties on U.S. servicemen and servicewomen are off-limits that any deaths attributed to Russian bounties will be met with swift and consequential action.

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You aren't being reasonable. Some of these briefings are a page long or even longer and with very few pictures! You can't expect Trump to slog through that. He's the President not a technocrat.

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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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He's both. The families of every soldier lost during this period and every soldier with boots on the ground should be horrified and pissed that the "Commander In Chief" did jack **** to protect those that fight and protect those of us at home.

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Yes, but veterans overall will likely vote for Trump again in November. This is the leadership veterans asked for.

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Veterans will usually vote for conservative leadership but when a leader allows Russia to place bounties on the heads of soldiers putting their family members in grave danger by not responding to a $100,000.00 bounties, they will be pissed. Inaction by a Commander in Chief is what veterans and millitary families will find to be unconscionable.

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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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He's both. The families of every soldier lost during this period and every soldier with boots on the ground should be horrified and pissed that the "Commander In Chief" did jack **** to protect those that fight and protect those of us at home.

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Yes, but veterans overall will likely vote for Trump again in November. This is the leadership veterans asked for.

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Veterans will usually vote for conservative leadership but when a leader allows Russia to place bounties on the heads of soldiers putting their family members in grave danger by not responding to a $100,000.00 bounties, they will be pissed. Inaction by a Commander in Chief is what veterans and millitary families will find to be unconscionable.

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My prediction: exit polls show veterans support Trump over Biden in November.

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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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He's both. The families of every soldier lost during this period and every soldier with boots on the ground should be horrified and pissed that the "Commander In Chief" did jack **** to protect those that fight and protect those of us at home.

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Yes, but veterans overall will likely vote for Trump again in November. This is the leadership veterans asked for.

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Veterans will usually vote for conservative leadership but when a leader allows Russia to place bounties on the heads of soldiers putting their family members in grave danger by not responding to a $100,000.00 bounties, they will be pissed. Inaction by a Commander in Chief is what veterans and millitary families will find to be unconscionable.

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My prediction: exit polls show veterans support Trump over Biden in November.

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Maybe but that support will be affected by Captain Catastrophe's cowardice in this instance.

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> I love how you keep dodging the whole "Maybe we shouldn't have troops there at all" point.

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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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He's both. The families of every soldier lost during this period and every soldier with boots on the ground should be horrified and pissed that the "Commander In Chief" did jack **** to protect those that fight and protect those of us at home.

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Yes, but veterans overall will likely vote for Trump again in November. This is the leadership veterans asked for.

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Veterans will usually vote for conservative leadership but when a leader allows Russia to place bounties on the heads of soldiers putting their family members in grave danger by not responding to a $100,000.00 bounties, they will be pissed. Inaction by a Commander in Chief is what veterans and millitary families will find to be unconscionable.

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And what response would you have liked?

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The first thing is to have Captain Catastrophe actually read the daily briefings so he knows what the hell is going on in a country where there is a significant U.S. military presence. Next, I would let Russia know in no uncertain terms that bounties on U.S. servicemen and servicewomen are off-limits that any deaths attributed to Russian bounties will be met with swift and consequential action. That's what a Commander in Chief does when he is the kind of leader that the troops can count on. If U.S. servicemen are killed then a list of Russian targets that would elicit the same number of deaths that have been caused by the bounties would be presented and then choose the best target. Finally, I would hit the specific Taliban structure responsible for the deaths and rain hot **** on them so they never think about Russian bounties again and this includes arresting those individuals who are directly responsible for the American deaths. I think that about covers it.

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So your great solution for Taliban soldiers, who are already motivated to kill U.S. soldiers who are in Afghanistan (unwanted by their people), is to meet violence with more violence, kill Russian targets, incite a response from the Russians, and then keep trying to one up each other?

Here's a better idea.

Bring your soldiers home and stop throwing money into the money pit.

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If you let Putin and the Taliban get away with this then they will be emboldened. How long before Putin turns his attention to the rest of Eastern Europe and then one of our NATO allies which we will have an obligation to defend?

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Garou said:

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Roxie Richter said:

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The Lincoln Project on Twitter: "Former U.S Navy Seal Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if @realDonaldTrump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit. Well, Donald, which is it? https://t.co/rZUsgSpDv2" / Twitter

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He's both. The families of every soldier lost during this period and every soldier with boots on the ground should be horrified and pissed that the "Commander In Chief" did jack **** to protect those that fight and protect those of us at home.

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Yes, but veterans overall will likely vote for Trump again in November. This is the leadership veterans asked for.

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Veterans will usually vote for conservative leadership but when a leader allows Russia to place bounties on the heads of soldiers putting their family members in grave danger by not responding to a $100,000.00 bounties, they will be pissed. Inaction by a Commander in Chief is what veterans and millitary families will find to be unconscionable.

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And what response would you have liked?

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The first thing is to have Captain Catastrophe actually read the daily briefings so he knows what the hell is going on in a country where there is a significant U.S. military presence. Next, I would let Russia know in no uncertain terms that bounties on U.S. servicemen and servicewomen are off-limits that any deaths attributed to Russian bounties will be met with swift and consequential action. That's what a Commander in Chief does when he is the kind of leader that the troops can count on. If U.S. servicemen are killed then a list of Russian targets that would elicit the same number of deaths that have been caused by the bounties would be presented and then choose the best target. Finally, I would hit the specific Taliban structure responsible for the deaths and rain hot **** on them so they never think about Russian bounties again and this includes arresting those individuals who are directly responsible for the American deaths. I think that about covers it.

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So your great solution for Taliban soldiers, who are already motivated to kill U.S. soldiers who are in Afghanistan (unwanted by their people), is to meet violence with more violence, kill Russian targets, incite a response from the Russians, and then keep trying to one up each other?

Here's a better idea.

Bring your soldiers home and stop throwing money into the money pit.

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If you let Putin and the Taliban get away with this then they will be emboldened. How long before Putin turns his attention to the rest of Eastern Europe and then one of our NATO allies which we will have an obligation to defend?

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So you're saying the essential piece of making sure our troops don't get killed is to make sure we leave them where they're most likely to be killed.

Got it.

How about one of those NATO allies ask for help first before we start sending people to die?

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dajo9 said:

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We shouldn't have soldiers in the middle east anymore. Bring them home.

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Garou said:

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If you let Putin and the Taliban get away with this then they will be emboldened. How long before Putin turns his attention to the rest of Eastern Europe and then one of our NATO allies which we will have an obligation to defend?

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So you're saying the essential piece of making sure our troops don't get killed is to make sure we leave them where they're most likely to be killed.

Got it.

How about one of those NATO allies ask for help first before we start sending people to die?

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If you turn tail and leave then all the blood and sacrifice is for not, the perception of the U.S. is spill some blood and they will slink away. Soldiers know the risk when they join the military, they are willing to fight so the rest of us can debate things like this and sleep soundly at night.

On the issue of our NATO allies, when the U.S. was attacked on 9/11 they stood with us and went to war with us. We owe them the same if they were to be attacked.

I don't remember ever saying that maybe we shouldn't have troops there so I'm not sure what you're talking about. When soldiers are in theater we should be aggressive and do everything possible so they can do their jobs and if that means having to hit Puty and the Taliban with a big stick then so be it.

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All the blood and sacrifice was never for anything.

But since you think it's so important, I nominate you to go over there and show those Russkies a thing or two. Let's see you get some personal skin in the game.

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