To quote a recent post by janky1, "LOL":

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/oklahoma-trying-to-return-its-2m-stockpile-of-hydroxychloroquine/

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To quote a recent post by janky1, "LOL":

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/oklahoma-trying-to-return-its-2m-stockpile-of-hydroxychloroquine/

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If you were dying and there was no vaccine, you'd take it, don't lie.

Here we go

JUST IN: New study finds that the use of weight-adjusted hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin improved survival of ventilated COVID-19 patients by nearly 200% - medRxiv

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 8, 2021

hanky1 said:

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Here we go

JUST IN: New study finds that the use of weight-adjusted hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin improved survival of ventilated COVID-19 patients by nearly 200% - medRxiv

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 8, 2021

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Please link the preprint study so we can review. I know you enjoy your premature victory lap but it's fair to actually show your work. There have been numerous conflicting studies on HCQ/AZM impact on COVID, so we can't rely on a random tweet from a RWNJ twitter account.

I hope the unvaxed fat f@ucks in the South gobble it like mints when they get the variant from India.

Unit2Sucks said:

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hanky1 said:

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Here we go

JUST IN: New study finds that the use of weight-adjusted hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin improved survival of ventilated COVID-19 patients by nearly 200% - medRxiv

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 8, 2021

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Please link the preprint study so we can review. I know you enjoy your premature victory lap but it's fair to actually show your work. There have been numerous conflicting studies on HCQ/AZM impact on COVID, so we can't rely on a random tweet from a RWNJ twitter account.

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You can find your own links, this hasn't been a good month or year for "science", media, or truth.

hanky1 said:

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Here we go

JUST IN: New study finds that the use of weight-adjusted hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin improved survival of ventilated COVID-19 patients by nearly 200% - medRxiv

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 8, 2021

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How many Breaking911 citations did hanky1 include in his PhD dissertation?

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hanky1 said:

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Here we go

JUST IN: New study finds that the use of weight-adjusted hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin improved survival of ventilated COVID-19 patients by nearly 200% - medRxiv

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 8, 2021

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Please link the preprint study so we can review. I know you enjoy your premature victory lap but it's fair to actually show your work. There have been numerous conflicting studies on HCQ/AZM impact on COVID, so we can't rely on a random tweet from a RWNJ twitter account.

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You can find your own links, this hasn't been a good month or year for "science", media, or truth.

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Trump was right again, and the democrats and their PR machine media are responsible for the dead.

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I hope the unvaxed fat f@ucks in the South gobble it like mints when they get the variant from India.

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You do realize some people actually HAD covid, they don't need the vaccine, they have the antibodies. I almost took the vax, but I am 100% certain I had it in March of 2020, It totally screwed up my taste buds, still to this day.

MinotStateBeav said:

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bearister said:

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I hope the unvaxed fat f@ucks in the South gobble it like mints when they get the variant from India.

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You do realize some people actually HAD covid, they don't need the vaccine, they have the antibodies. I almost took the vax, but I am 100% certain I had it in March of 2020, It totally screwed up my taste buds, still to this day.

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" It's much better to get yourself vaccinated. Then you don't have to worry moving forward until we learn more about whether we need booster shots or not," Dr. Englund clarifies."

When Should You Get Vaccinated if You've Had COVID-19? Health Essentials from Cleveland Clinic


https://health.clevelandclinic.org/when-should-you-get-vaccinated-if-youve-had-covid-19/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/health.clevelandclinic.org/when-should-you-get-vaccinated-if-youve-had-covid-19/amp/


Should I Get The Vaccine If I Had COVID? : Goats and Soda : NPR


https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/21/998639795/coronavirus-faq-i-had-covid-should-i-get-the-vaccine

Do I still need to get vaccinated if I've already had COVID-19? - Mayo Clinic


https://www.mayoclinic.org/do-i-still-need-to-get-vaccinated-if-ive-already-had-covid-19/vid-20507033


*My wife and I believe we had Covid in February /March 2020 time frame (although Cal88 poo pooed that) but we got vaxed in March 2021 anyway. Better safe than sorry.


**Isn't St. Barnabas Medical Center in New Jersey where tRump got his taint transplant?

MinotStateBeav said:

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hanky1 said:

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Here we go

JUST IN: New study finds that the use of weight-adjusted hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin improved survival of ventilated COVID-19 patients by nearly 200% - medRxiv

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 8, 2021

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Please link the preprint study so we can review. I know you enjoy your premature victory lap but it's fair to actually show your work. There have been numerous conflicting studies on HCQ/AZM impact on COVID, so we can't rely on a random tweet from a RWNJ twitter account.

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You can find your own links, this hasn't been a good month or year for "science", media, or truth.

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Trump was right again, and the democrats and their PR machine media are responsible for the dead.

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Oh? Can you tell me when Trump took hydroxychloroquine and how it helped him?

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Here we go

JUST IN: New study finds that the use of weight-adjusted hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin improved survival of ventilated COVID-19 patients by nearly 200% - medRxiv

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 8, 2021

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How many Breaking911 citations did hanky1 include in his PhD dissertation?

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This is perfectly normal procedure in this particular industry to publish preprints before the article. What's your point?

I think his point is that you are not as smart as you think you are.

Here's the paper. Not surprised some RWNJ twitter account oversimplified the results.

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Abstract
Introduction This observational study looked at 255 COVID19 patients who required invasive mechanical ventilation (IMV) during the first two months of the US pandemic. Through comprehensive, longitudinal evaluation and new consideration of all the data, we were able to better describe and understand factors affecting outcome after intubation.
Methods All vital signs, laboratory values, and medication administrations (time, date, dose, and route) were collected and organized. Further, each patient's prior medical records, including PBM data and available ECG, were reviewed by a physician. These data were incorporated into time-series database for statistical analysis.
Results By discharge or Day 90, 78.2% of the cohort expired. The most common pre-existing conditions were hypertension, (63.5%), diabetes (59.2%) and obesity (50.4%). Age correlated with death. Comorbidities and clinical status on presentation were not predictive of outcome. Admission markers of inflammation were universally elevated (>96%). The cohort's weight range was nearly 7-fold. Causal modeling establishes that weight-adjusted HCQ and AZM therapy improves survival by over 100%. QTc prolongation did not correlate with cumulative HCQ dose or HCQ serum levels.
Discussion This detailed approach gives us better understanding of risk factors, prognostic indicators, and outcomes of Covid patients needing IMV. Few variables were related to outcome. By considering more factors and using new methods, we found that when increased doses of co-administered HCQ and AZM were associated with >100% increase in survival. Comparison of absolute with weight-adjusted cumulative doses proves administration 80 mg/kg of HCQ with > 1 gm AZM increases survival in IMV-requiring Covid patients by over 100%. According to our data, HCQ is not associated with prolongation. Studies, which reported QTc prolongation secondary to HCQ, need to be re-evaluated more stringently and with controls.
The weight ranges of Covid patient cohorts are substantially greater than those of most antibiotic RCTs. Future clinical trials need to consider the weight variance of hospitalized Covid patients and need to study therapeutics more thoughtfully.

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First, the cumulative was not, for most pts, a measure of length of stay or determined by death. The most commonly used cumulative dose of HCQ = 2,400 mg. This dose/regimen was recommended, as noted in the paper by Yao et al., based upon computer modeling. The 2,400 mg dose was given over 5 days, 800 mg on Day and 400 mg on Days 2-5. The treating or consulting ID physician chose the cumulative dose.

In late March, the French data came out and some switched to the French regimen, 600 mg of HCQ x 10 days plus azithromycin x 5 days. Most pts received the 800 mg first day dose, which was started by the ER docs and was a click in the computer ordering system. The ID docs saw the pt the next morning. Many continued the pt on 400 mg per day for 4 more days. Others switched to 600 mg per day. So, by Day 5 on the latter regimen, the cumulative HCQ dose = 3,200 mg or > 3 gm or the cut-off used in our paper. In other words, it took just as long to get to > 3 gm and as it took to get to 2,400 mg.

In a simplistic way to control for length of stay (LOS), we analyzed the effect of >3gHCQ/ >1gAZM on outcome after removing those patients, who had a LOS <= 5 days. All 49 patients with a LOS <= 5 days expired; none took > 3,000 mg HCQ and > 1,000 mg AZM.

The 169 remaining patients serve as the "untreated" group and had a survival rate = 21.3%. The >3gHCQ />1gAZM group's survival rate = 48.6%. This difference = 27.3%, which is still large and highly statistically significant (difference = 27.3%; 95% C.I. = 10.1-43.7%; p = 0.0006).
In other words, even after eliminating all patients who had a LOS <= 5 days from the "untreated" group, the survival rate of the HCQ/AZM was more than 2.2-fold that of the "untreated" group. BTW, this type of analysis is heavily biased against showing a difference between treatment with HCQ, because the treatment may have an effect before Day 5.

Remember, most of the "untreated" group did receive HCQ, just <= 3 gm.
In other words, cumulative dose of HCQ was not a marker of survival. The cumulative HCQ dose was determined by the ID doctor seeing the pt. Different ID doctors interpreted the available data on HCQ differently. Essentially, they chose between the 2,400 mg without AZM or the 6,000 mg total HCQ dose with AZM or no HCQ at all. A few ID doctors split the middle and used ~3 gm of HCQ with AZM.
Many ID doctors did not use AZM with HCQ for fear or concern about prolonging the QTc interval on the ECG. We, instead, followed the QTc interval closely.
Weight-based HCQ cumulative dose was more strongly associated with survival and absolute cumulative dose. This fact essentially rules out HCQ cumulative dose being a marker of survival as well.
Lighter pts reached a weight-based cumulative HCQ dose well before heavier pts. If a pt weighed 50% of another pt, it took 50% of the days to reach a given weight-based HCQ cumulative dose.
These pts typically received 800 mg HCQ on Day 1 and then 600 mg per day.
A 60 kg pt reached 40 mg/kg by Day 4, while a 120 kg pt, didn't reach 40 mg/kg until Day 8.
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We have heard so many claims about HCQ over the past 15 months that it's hard to say that any clarity has emerged as to what HCQ advocates are actually saying. This small study is different from what Cal88 swore up and down was the proper approach. Cal88 told us that you have to use HCQ early and often and that if you wait until people are ventilated it's too late. This study only involved ventilated people. Also this study was done early in the pandemic before we developed better treatments for hospitalized patients like dexamethosone among other things.

Dexamethosone was probably the drug that did more than anything else to reduce the death rate of hospitalized patients but it never became politicized because it actually worked.

AunBear89 said:

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I think his point is that you are not as smart as you think you are.

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And no one here is doubting your intelligence.

BearForce2 said:

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AunBear89 said:

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I think his point is that you are not as smart as you think you are.

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And no one here is doubting your intelligence.

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Pssst. I have little to no regard for the opinions of morons like you.

But thanks for sharing. You better check your Twitter feed so you can find out what your next thought is supposed to be.

Now that we know Hydroxychloroquine is indeed actually a wonder drug and now that we know that the area outside the White House wasn't cleared so that Trump could walk out and hold up the Bible and now that we know that the patriotic Capitol protests on 1/6 do not merit further investigation, I have one question:

When's that Reinstatement, baby? It will have the largest crowd EVER to attend a Presidential Reinstatement!!!

Big C said:

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Now that we know Hydroxychloroquine is indeed actually a wonder drug and now that we know that the area outside the White House wasn't cleared so that Trump could walk out and hold up the Bible and now that we know that the patriotic Capitol protests on 1/6 do not merit further investigation, I have one question:

When's that Reinstatement, baby? It will have the largest crowd EVER to attend a Presidential Reinstatement!!!

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Instead, what if we gather the media and Biden supporters at the Capitol and serve crow and humble pie? For desert, Biden's and Nancy's favorite ice cream with assorted nut toppings, lots of nuts. All you can eat.

Can we work in fruits somewhere, to go with the nuts? When visiting in-laws and family in Florida and West Virginia, respectively, I always told them I'm from the land of fruits and nuts before they got a chance to say it. Sort of a preemptive defensive strike. Then we proceeded to get along fine.

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Can we work in fruits somewhere? When visiting in-laws and family in Florida and West Virginia, respectively, I always told them I'm from the land of fruits and nuts before they got a chance to say it. Preemptive strike. Then we proceeded to get along fine.

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I didn't get along with my Missouri relatives. I don't preemptively surrender. I asked them why they were talking nonsense.

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Big C said:

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Can we work in fruits somewhere? When visiting in-laws and family in Florida and West Virginia, respectively, I always told them I'm from the land of fruits and nuts before they got a chance to say it. Preemptive strike. Then we proceeded to get along fine.

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I didn't get along with my Missouri relatives. I don't preemptively surrender. I asked them why they were talking nonsense.

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How did they explain their talking nonsense?

In these types of situations, I feel like non-engagement is totally different than surrender. Better to have a few laughs and not talk politics. If some of my (distant) right-wing family members really want to debate things with me, fine, we can do that, and I will eviscerate them. Problem is, they won't admit defeat, even to themselves. And then life goes on...

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Can we work in fruits somewhere? When visiting in-laws and family in Florida and West Virginia, respectively, I always told them I'm from the land of fruits and nuts before they got a chance to say it. Preemptive strike. Then we proceeded to get along fine.

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I didn't get along with my Missouri relatives. I don't preemptively surrender. I asked them why they were talking nonsense.

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How did they explain their talking nonsense?

In these types of situations, I feel like non-engagement is totally different than surrender. Better to have a few laughs and not talk politics. If some of my (distant) right-wing family members really want to debate things with me, fine, we can do that, and I will eviscerate them. Problem is, they won't admit defeat, even to themselves. And then life goes on...

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They said they thought it was funny

The New York Times, which previously called the COVID-19 lab leak hypothesis a "fringe ... conspiracy theory", has just won a Pulitzer Prize for its coverage of the pandemic

— Amber Athey (@amber_athey) June 11, 2021

They also won a Pulitzer for their coverage of the Russia hoax.

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Pulitzer is the prize for most believable propaganda.

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Bearforce2 is relentless in his attacks on the media because his political side is so stupid, corrupt, dishonest, and incompetent. Attacking the messenger is all they've got.

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Bearforce2 is relentless in his attacks on the media because his political side is so stupid, corrupt, dishonest, and incompetent. Attacking the messenger is all they've got.

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John Brennan and James Clapper spent their time within the US Security State purposely lying to the public, then when they left, they got hired by the two liberal cable outlets that pretend to be so upset by disinformation.

What else do you need to know about them? pic.twitter.com/x0LSuQyTKJ

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 12, 2021

You spent the last 4+ years believing lies that you wanted to believe. That's called delusion.

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Bearforce2 is relentless in his attacks on the media because his political side is so stupid, corrupt, dishonest, and incompetent. Attacking the messenger is all they've got.

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John Brennan and James Clapper spent their time within the US Security State purposely lying to the public, then when they left, they got hired by the two liberal cable outlets that pretend to be so upset by disinformation.

What else do you need to know about them? pic.twitter.com/x0LSuQyTKJ

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 12, 2021

You spent the last 4+ years believing lies that you wanted to believe. That's called delusion.

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That was like every week during the Trump Administration

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Bearforce2 is relentless in his attacks on the media because his political side is so stupid, corrupt, dishonest, and incompetent. Attacking the messenger is all they've got.

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John Brennan and James Clapper spent their time within the US Security State purposely lying to the public, then when they left, they got hired by the two liberal cable outlets that pretend to be so upset by disinformation.

What else do you need to know about them? pic.twitter.com/x0LSuQyTKJ

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 12, 2021

You spent the last 4+ years believing lies that you wanted to believe. That's called delusion.

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That was like every week during the Trump Administration

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I know.

https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html




I wonder how many lives could have been saved if it weren't for left wing nutjobs spreading disinformation?

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A new study shows that the controversial drug hydroxychloroquine touted by former President Donald Trump increased the survival rate of severely ill coronavirus patients.

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I like how the yahoos are referring to a drug that has been around for a long time as "controversial".

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LOL the fake news tweet was deleted and hanky's legacy of failure continues.

NIH now recommends Vitamin C, D3 and Zinc for prevention and treatment of Covid-19. The rest of us who have recommended it for the past 18 months don't even want an apology.

— Brian Lenzkes, MD (@BrianLenzkes) September 16, 2021

Give it a little more time.

hanky1 will have the last laugh

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NIH now recommends Vitamin C, D3 and Zinc for prevention and treatment of Covid-19. The rest of us who have recommended it for the past 18 months don't even want an apology.

— Brian Lenzkes, MD (@BrianLenzkes) September 16, 2021

Give it a little more time.

hanky1 will have the last laugh

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You undoubtedly will be laughed at last. Last is a fitting culmination of throughout and all along the way.

Hey all, the original article that I read this in today was retracted. I do not want to spread misinformation. I will double check the source. Consider it fake news regarding NIH until further notice. https://t.co/qTeEaH14JS

— Brian Lenzkes, MD (@BrianLenzkes) September 17, 2021

HCQ - banned
Ivermectin- banned
NAC - limited
D3 - limited for active IV form
Monoclonal Antibody- now limited

What does this tell you?

— Dr. Brian Tyson, MD 🇺🇸 (@btysonmd) September 16, 2021

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hanky1 said:

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NIH now recommends Vitamin C, D3 and Zinc for prevention and treatment of Covid-19. The rest of us who have recommended it for the past 18 months don't even want an apology.

— Brian Lenzkes, MD (@BrianLenzkes) September 16, 2021

Give it a little more time.

hanky1 will have the last laugh

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You undoubtedly will be laughed at last. Last is a fitting culmination of throughout and all along the way.

Hey all, the original article that I read this in today was retracted. I do not want to spread misinformation. I will double check the source. Consider it fake news regarding NIH until further notice. https://t.co/qTeEaH14JS

— Brian Lenzkes, MD (@BrianLenzkes) September 17, 2021

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Oops.

This is peak Hanky - even his own sources are admitting they are wrong within hours of him falling for their scams.

Outside of masks, sanitizer, hand washing, social distancing, and "the vaccine," what else does the NIH recommend for prevention of Covid 19?

How about if you test positive with mild symptoms, such as only a fever?