Senate Judiciary Committee subpoenaing Twitter CEO for election interferance

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CaGoldenBears02
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for their unprecedented steps to block all traces of the recent NY Post Biden-Ukraine story and today's Biden-China money stories and locking out all who tried to post them without any evidence disproving their credibility, unlike the barrage of disproven and discredited stuff that's gone out against Trump for 4 years and has never been filtered.



Stepping back and setting aside dislike for Trump, how is this fair or defensible?
sycasey
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We already have a thread about this:

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/98200

I don't agree with Twitter's decision, but calling it "election interference" is ludicrous. Do Republicans now believe they can tell private businesses what to do with their product? Should we apply the same standards to Fox News or conservative talk radio or whatever outlets help Cruz get reelected?
CaGoldenBears02
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Well that's a false equivalence. Twitter and facebook claim to not be publishers but rather just content hosts and expecting protection under the law because of that but they're making extreme editorial decisions that are drastic enough that they're even posting warning that links to the Post story may contain malicious malware and to not open them. They're not banning Democrat media and those associated with the Biden campaign in anywhere near the same number, nor are they censoring anti-Trump stories at all.
sycasey
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CaGoldenBears02 said:

Well that's a false equivalence. Twitter and facebook claim to not be publishers but rather just content hosts and expecting protection under the law because of that but they're making extreme editorial decisions that are drastic enough that they're even posting warning that links to the Post story may contain malicious malware and to not open them. They're not banning Democrat media and those associated with the Biden campaign in anywhere near the same number, nor are they censoring anti-Trump stories at all.
All fair in the free market, isn't that what conservatives believe? Or is that just until the free market starts turning against them?
blungld
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I have no problem with an American company blocking known Russian disinformation that would misinform the American public and is targeted to effect an election in 2 weeks. And if this upsets you, you have lost the plot and are participating in foreign attacks and domestic corruption and complaining that the candidate and party you support needs to cheat to win.

And no the investigation into Trump and the resulting discussions on social media were not the same. They were based on American intelligence and confirmed by evidence and testimony under oath.
Anarchistbear
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ekcp8q8WkAA4TZS?format=jpg&name=large

Twitter changed their policy with regard to Post like articles. Will not ban.
calpoly
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CaGoldenBears02 said:

for their unprecedented steps to block all traces of the recent NY Post Biden-Ukraine story and today's Biden-China money stories and locking out all who tried to post them without any evidence disproving their credibility, unlike the barrage of disproven and discredited stuff that's gone out against Trump for 4 years and has never been filtered.



Stepping back and setting aside dislike for Trump, how is this fair or defensible?
For a person that claims they do not support tRump you certainly go out of your way to support him.
BearForce2
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Liberals don't believe in free speech anymore, this is just the beginning.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
BearForce2
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sycasey said:

CaGoldenBears02 said:

Well that's a false equivalence. Twitter and facebook claim to not be publishers but rather just content hosts and expecting protection under the law because of that but they're making extreme editorial decisions that are drastic enough that they're even posting warning that links to the Post story may contain malicious malware and to not open them. They're not banning Democrat media and those associated with the Biden campaign in anywhere near the same number, nor are they censoring anti-Trump stories at all.
All fair in the free market, isn't that what conservatives believe? Or is that just until the free market starts turning against them?

Then why did Twitter's CEO say it was wrong?

https://apnews.com/article/business-media-social-media-censorship-ec529ef85c1e72cefe0ae9450e118b9c
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
BearForce2
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blungld said:

I have no problem with an American company blocking known Russian disinformation that would misinform the American public and is targeted to effect an election in 2 weeks. And if this upsets you, you have lost the plot and are participating in foreign attacks and domestic corruption and complaining that the candidate and party you support needs to cheat to win.

And no the investigation into Trump and the resulting discussions on social media were not the same. They were based on American intelligence and confirmed by evidence and testimony under oath.

You believe in censorship, no surprise there, so do totalitarian governments.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
bearister
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I can hardly wait until after the election when the Democrat controlled Senate, regardless of whether tRump wins or loses, creates the Presidential Crimes Commission.
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
sycasey
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BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:

CaGoldenBears02 said:

Well that's a false equivalence. Twitter and facebook claim to not be publishers but rather just content hosts and expecting protection under the law because of that but they're making extreme editorial decisions that are drastic enough that they're even posting warning that links to the Post story may contain malicious malware and to not open them. They're not banning Democrat media and those associated with the Biden campaign in anywhere near the same number, nor are they censoring anti-Trump stories at all.
All fair in the free market, isn't that what conservatives believe? Or is that just until the free market starts turning against them?

Then why did Twitter's CEO say it was wrong?

https://apnews.com/article/business-media-social-media-censorship-ec529ef85c1e72cefe0ae9450e118b9c
He made his own private decision to change his private company's policy. Both things (the original decision and the reversal) should be fine per conservative free-market principles, right?

It appears that you are in favor of "conservatives" being considered a special class protected from discrimination, though, right? You want identity politics applied in their favor now, so Twitter can't make this kind of mistake again. Just trying to clarify.
BearForce2
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sycasey said:

BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:

CaGoldenBears02 said:

Well that's a false equivalence. Twitter and facebook claim to not be publishers but rather just content hosts and expecting protection under the law because of that but they're making extreme editorial decisions that are drastic enough that they're even posting warning that links to the Post story may contain malicious malware and to not open them. They're not banning Democrat media and those associated with the Biden campaign in anywhere near the same number, nor are they censoring anti-Trump stories at all.
All fair in the free market, isn't that what conservatives believe? Or is that just until the free market starts turning against them?

Then why did Twitter's CEO say it was wrong?

https://apnews.com/article/business-media-social-media-censorship-ec529ef85c1e72cefe0ae9450e118b9c
He made his own private decision to change his private company's policy. Both things (the original decision and the reversal) should be fine per conservative free-market principles, right?

It appears that you are in favor of "conservatives" being considered a special class protected from discrimination, though, right? You want identity politics applied in their favor now, so Twitter can't make this kind of mistake again. Just trying to clarify.

This is about the 1st Amendment, something liberals used to believe.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
sycasey
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BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:

BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:

CaGoldenBears02 said:

Well that's a false equivalence. Twitter and facebook claim to not be publishers but rather just content hosts and expecting protection under the law because of that but they're making extreme editorial decisions that are drastic enough that they're even posting warning that links to the Post story may contain malicious malware and to not open them. They're not banning Democrat media and those associated with the Biden campaign in anywhere near the same number, nor are they censoring anti-Trump stories at all.
All fair in the free market, isn't that what conservatives believe? Or is that just until the free market starts turning against them?

Then why did Twitter's CEO say it was wrong?

https://apnews.com/article/business-media-social-media-censorship-ec529ef85c1e72cefe0ae9450e118b9c
He made his own private decision to change his private company's policy. Both things (the original decision and the reversal) should be fine per conservative free-market principles, right?

It appears that you are in favor of "conservatives" being considered a special class protected from discrimination, though, right? You want identity politics applied in their favor now, so Twitter can't make this kind of mistake again. Just trying to clarify.

This is about the 1st Amendment, something liberals used to believe.
No, the First Amendment prevents the government from favoring certain kind of speech over others, not private companies. You are talking about regulating a private company.
BearlyCareAnymore
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CaGoldenBears02 said:

for their unprecedented steps to block all traces of the recent NY Post Biden-Ukraine story and today's Biden-China money stories and locking out all who tried to post them without any evidence disproving their credibility, unlike the barrage of disproven and discredited stuff that's gone out against Trump for 4 years and has never been filtered.



Stepping back and setting aside dislike for Trump, how is this fair or defensible?


So sorry the problem is they have no evidence disproving the unproven stories, huh?

Prove to me that Trump is not a dementor.
BearlyCareAnymore
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sycasey said:

BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:

BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:

CaGoldenBears02 said:

Well that's a false equivalence. Twitter and facebook claim to not be publishers but rather just content hosts and expecting protection under the law because of that but they're making extreme editorial decisions that are drastic enough that they're even posting warning that links to the Post story may contain malicious malware and to not open them. They're not banning Democrat media and those associated with the Biden campaign in anywhere near the same number, nor are they censoring anti-Trump stories at all.
All fair in the free market, isn't that what conservatives believe? Or is that just until the free market starts turning against them?

Then why did Twitter's CEO say it was wrong?

https://apnews.com/article/business-media-social-media-censorship-ec529ef85c1e72cefe0ae9450e118b9c
He made his own private decision to change his private company's policy. Both things (the original decision and the reversal) should be fine per conservative free-market principles, right?

It appears that you are in favor of "conservatives" being considered a special class protected from discrimination, though, right? You want identity politics applied in their favor now, so Twitter can't make this kind of mistake again. Just trying to clarify.

This is about the 1st Amendment, something liberals used to believe.
No, the First Amendment prevents the government from favoring certain kind of speech over others, not private companies. You are talking about regulating a private company.


It is Twitter's first amendment right to allow whatever they want. People can go elsewhere. The government can remove privileges, but no one has a right to put whatever they want on Twitter
BearlyCareAnymore
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BearForce2 said:

Liberals don't believe in free speech anymore, this is just the beginning.



So if I call Rush Limbaugh and they don't let me talk you'll (completely incorrectly) defend what you think are my first amendment rights?
AunBear89
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sycasey said:

BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:

BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:

CaGoldenBears02 said:

Well that's a false equivalence. Twitter and facebook claim to not be publishers but rather just content hosts and expecting protection under the law because of that but they're making extreme editorial decisions that are drastic enough that they're even posting warning that links to the Post story may contain malicious malware and to not open them. They're not banning Democrat media and those associated with the Biden campaign in anywhere near the same number, nor are they censoring anti-Trump stories at all.
All fair in the free market, isn't that what conservatives believe? Or is that just until the free market starts turning against them?

Then why did Twitter's CEO say it was wrong?

https://apnews.com/article/business-media-social-media-censorship-ec529ef85c1e72cefe0ae9450e118b9c
He made his own private decision to change his private company's policy. Both things (the original decision and the reversal) should be fine per conservative free-market principles, right?

It appears that you are in favor of "conservatives" being considered a special class protected from discrimination, though, right? You want identity politics applied in their favor now, so Twitter can't make this kind of mistake again. Just trying to clarify.

This is about the 1st Amendment, something liberals used to believe.
No, the First Amendment prevents the government from favoring certain kind of speech over others, not private companies. You are talking about regulating a private company.


Dimwit Righties have a real hard time with the 1st. They think it gives them permission to say whatever they want, wherever they want, without consequences. Righteous Righties are pretty stupid.
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