Shocky1;842852172 said:
let's be real here, right now the bears got all the pieces of the puzzle to be by far the worst shooting & lowest scoring team in the pac 12 next season unless quite a few guys significantly improve their crooked azz shooting by putting up at least 500+ shots every single day (no days off)
when's the last time you talked/worked out with theo re: your shot mechanics/mental awareness of timing & placement of your perimeter shots?...why is it that almost half of this roster can't make 50% of their free throws? (yeah i'm monitoring your lack of progress, you know that)
if you think change/improvement is gonna happen without your sorry broken down azz working a whole lot harder, we're ******
arizona 73
cal 49
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HoopDreams;842852189 said:
I was in the gold gym a couple weeks back (improving my crooked azz shooting)
Roman Davis was on the other court putting up 500+ shots
Vastly improved shooting form. Smooth release.
Saw him hit 6+ threes in a row several times and 9 straight threes once
He also was automatic with his pull up 15 footer
Needs work on his floater
Shocky1;842840948 said:
what up, roman?
you know i'm your biggest fan, the guy who sees your unlimited potential, the one who talks to nba scouts re: your crazy athleticism during the early warm ups, the believer who knows you got all pac 12 potential
do you remember the asu game in tempe when the bears were up big time late in the game & i started to relentlessly yell from right behind the cal bench with taylor at the dealmaker to put you in the game with a couple of minutes left?...he turned around & gave me the stink eye death row stare but then he put both you & cole in the game
but let's be real here, roman, you haven't worked hard enough (you took last summer off) on your game, your crooked azz shooting earned you a spot on the bench next to martin...are you gonna put in the work to put up 500+ practice shots every single day (no days off, no excuses)?
roman, the time is now, is your career gonna be unforgettable?
unforgettable (potential don't mean **** if you don't got a indefatigable work ethic)#:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe:axe
No, the game where Washington made the layup with one second left, missed the FT, and Taylor got the put back for the win was in the last year with no 3 point shot, that's why the foul was so incredibly stupid. Let Washington make an uncontested layup, and Cal loses the game. Back then, the clock still didn't stop after a made bucket in the last minute of the game, and Cal didn't have any timeouts left, a made 2 with no foul would have ended the game. Crazy.blungld;842851838 said:
Wasn't that the game where the refs blew a foot on the arc three point call that decided the game?
caltagjohnson;842852899 said:
Shocky, what are your comments about Cal's lack of scoring coming from?
HS stats:
Dyson - 20 ppg, 55% FG, 37% 3pt and 69% FTs
McCullough - 54% FG, 45% 3PT
Sueing - 54% FG, 34% 3pt, 73% FTs
Winston - 40% FG, 27% 3pt, 76% FTs. NEEDS TO GET BETTER from Three
McNeill - no reported stats
Anticevich - no stats
I assume everyone on the team will spend the Summer working on their game. I doubt any encouragement is needed. They are all fighting for a rotation spot. BTW Cal never had a 45% 3 pt shooter in history as far as I know. A Davis who can score is welcome news. Frankly I don't see any big scoring issue. King's range is about 5 ft from the basket. I doubt he is working on his 3 pt shot. Most of Lee's scoring is going to be inside rather than on the perimeter. Last season at practice he showed a nice hook shot which can't be blocked. I am not concerned with Lee's game. I suspect McNeill and Anticevich are good shooters. The new D is supposed to lead to more transition baskets. I assume everyone can make a layup.
HoopDreams;842852189 said:
I was in the gold gym a couple weeks back (improving my crooked azz shooting)
Roman Davis was on the other court putting up 500+ shots
Vastly improved shooting form. Smooth release.
Saw him hit 6+ threes in a row several times and 9 straight threes once
He also was automatic with his pull up 15 footer
Needs work on his floater
UrsaMajor;842852903 said:
I think Shocky's point is that everyone you list is a freshman. There are no reliable scorers returning; how well these guys transition to college remains to be seen and is critical. FWIW, no one shoots as well in college as a freshman as they did in high school, so expecting McCullough to shoot 45% requires the use of drugs.
Shocky1;842843502 said:
major arizona donor just told me that the donut boy of tucson's summertime bigs big board priorities are marvin bagley, moses brown, nazreon reid, bol bol & jalen smith with duke transfer chase jeter already set at the 4 sliding to the 5 for 2018
jordan brown is no longer a priority (the staff intends to stay in touch in case there's a change of heart) for the wildcats & he's no longer as interested in stanford, this is turning into a cal vs ucla led by rapist enabler steve alford recruiting battle that will tip the future balance of power in the pac 12 to either berkeley or westwood
back to the bay (from roseville)#:chainsaw
Shocky1;842852992 said:
kinda wondering if young ivee & coach wyking got the same hairdresser at supercuts?
shut up, shocky#:bluecarrot:
Shocky1;842848946 said:
update: grant anticevich is showing up/making plays in open scrimmages, he's got length & a very strong handle for a player of his size, a better dribbler/passer than david kravish at the same point in his career
but let's be real here grant don't got good hair:headbang
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welcome 6'8" 210 lbs grant anticevich from the newington college in new south wales australia:cheer
http://www.hudl.com/profile/7634288/grant-anticevich
grant officially visited georgia tech & davidson along with a secret (non authorized personnel not told ****) stop in berkeley as part of his family's whirlwind tour of the united states
anticevich's commitment is part of my accelerated international recruiting which is quietly whispered in the shadowy hallways of haas pavilion as part of the lisbon plan, some of my lisbon plan is so complicated that even coach martin don't understand it unless i speak real slow & then he just blankly nods
yeah grant can't wait to arrive in cali this summer & check out them curvy brunette yoga females with flat stomachs, what a time to be alive:cheer:cheer:cheer
shocky is down under#
the university of california, berkeley=#1 ranked public (#3 overall) university in the world (including sydney):tree:tree:tree:tree:tree:tree:tree:tree:tree:tree
caltagjohnson;842852899 said:
Shocky, what are your comments about Cal's lack of scoring coming from?
HS stats:
Dyson - 20 ppg, 55% FG, 37% 3pt and 69% FTs
McCullough - 54% FG, 45% 3PT
Sueing - 54% FG, 34% 3pt, 73% FTs
Winston - 40% FG, 27% 3pt, 76% FTs. NEEDS TO GET BETTER from Three
McNeill - no reported stats
Anticevich - no stats
I assume everyone on the team will spend the Summer working on their game. I doubt any encouragement is needed. They are all fighting for a rotation spot. BTW Cal never had a 45% 3 pt shooter in history as far as I know. A Davis who can score is welcome news. Frankly I don't see any big scoring issue. King's range is about 5 ft from the basket. I doubt he is working on his 3 pt shot. Most of Lee's scoring is going to be inside rather than on the perimeter. Last season at practice he showed a nice hook shot which can't be blocked. I am not concerned with Lee's game. I suspect McNeill and Anticevich are good shooters. The new D is supposed to lead to more transition baskets. I assume everyone can make a layup.
UrsaMajor;842853122 said:
stop confusing him with facts, SFCity.
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caltagjohnson;842853150 said:
I am always happen to accept facts and be corrected. Can I have the studies that show that freshmen don't play as well as they did in HS? I have never seen such a study. I doubt it applied to the five KY freshman who won the national chamoionship.
59bear;842848062 said:
Sadly, no. Hope he took lots of language classes in his time at Cal.
Shocky1;842850452 said:
kyree walker's dad got a coaching position with the hillcrest academy in phoenix (deandre ayton's fake school with on line classes which aren't monitored) which resulted in the transfer from moreau catholic & today the 2020 top 10 player committed to asu
if kyree continues to blow up fully expect arizona to outbid asu by the time walker actually signs a letter of intent
kyree walker=true student athlete with academic ambition:sarc:
UrsaMajor;842853254 said:
It never ceases to amaze me that this is OK with the NCAA. I get offering a father a job, but if it is explicitly contingent upon the signing of the son, that would seem to be an impermissible benefit (like giving Jelani Gardner's father $30K).
caltagjohnson;842853150 said:
I am always happen to accept facts and be corrected. Can I have the studies that show that freshmen don't play as well as they did in HS? I have never seen such a study. I doubt it applied to the five KY freshman who won the national chamoionship.
UrsaMajor;842853121 said:
Please learn to read (or re-learn if you forgot). No one is saying freshmen can't be good; what I am saying (and the stats bear it out) is that no one plays as well as a freshman as they did in high school; the opponents are bigger and faster and what constitutes a good shot in college isn't the same as in high school (i.e., the window of "being open" is shorter). Jordan Mathews was a 45+% 3-point shooter in hs, and shot 39% (still good) at Cal as a freshman. Relying on mostly freshman for scoring is dicey. Not that they can't do it, but expecting them to carry the load is not something I'd bet the house on.
As for Lee--you're right, he's a 5th year senior and should be able to be productive; otoh, he has never shown that much of an offensive game before (although perhaps he hasn't had that much of a chance before) and if he does so, it will be a bonus. At this point, Don Coleman has shown one move only: a bull rush to the hoop. At times that can be successful, but until he develops a lot more versatility, he's likely to be limited. Yes, he had a couple of good games, but overall, he averaged 4.5 ppg on 37% shooting (even on 2's he only shot 43%). Even in the CSUB game, while he had 26 points, he shot 7-19. Shredding is a bit of an overstatement.
Look, I want those players to succeed as much as you do, but let's try to be a teensy-tiny bit realistic.
caltagjohnson;842853150 said:
I am always happen to accept facts and be corrected. Can I have the studies that show that freshmen don't play as well as they did in HS? I have never seen such a study. I doubt it applied to the five KY freshman who won the national chamoionship.
UrsaMajor;842853361 said:
I don't know if there are formal studies, but here's some data on last year's Max Preps AA as well as some top Cal recruits comparing their last year of hs with their 1st year of college (rounded):
Player HS PPG Freshman PPG
Jabari Bird 17 8
Jaylen Brown 28 14
Ivan Rabb 21 12
Caleb Swanigan 22 10
Lonzo Ball 23 14
Jason Tatum 30 17
Cassius Winston 29 7
Marques Bolden 23 2
Amir Coffey 20 12
Frank Johnson 28 11
TJ Leaf 28 16
Payton Pritchard 24 7
Xavier Simpson 26 2
Obviously some of these players (Leaf, Tatum, Ball, to an extent Jaylen and Ivan) made a decent transition, but try to find ONE who was as prolific as a college player as in high school. And some of them obviously struggled badly. Remember: these are the BEST players in the class.
