With the historically unsuccessful Mark Fox era over at Cal, let's take a look at some potential replacement candidates in this critical juncture of Cal basketball.
But before we begin, the profound level of futility of not just the Mark Fox era but also the preceding two years of comparable lack of success from Wyking Jones needs to be examined to understand just how big a hole AD Jim Knowlton and the athletic department needs to figure out a way to dig itself out of.
Following the relatively successful 3-year tenure of Cuonzo Martin, who went 62-39 overall and
29-25 in conference before departing to Missouri with a substantial raise that more than doubled his Cal contract, prior AD Mike WIlliams made a critical error in hiring Martin assistant Wyking Jones, who had no head coaching experience. The results were even worse than the gloomiest of sceptics could have imagined, with a pair of last-place finishes and an overall record of 16-47 overall and just 5-31 in conference.
Veteran coach Mark Fox, who had had a modest level of success took over and fared little better in his 4-year tenure at Cal, going just 38-67 overall and 17-61 in conference.
Fortunately in this day of portal transfers and NIL, if a program like Cal that has something
beyond futility to offer under the right leadership and framework, including a robust NIL program, the right coach and a few key transfer additions can dramatically change the fortunes of a program without having to suffer through a painfully slow rebuild project.
There are some non-negotiable traits this go-round that are crucial to picking the right person to lead what is not a particularly easy turnaround of a Cal program that’s been down six years now: A strong recruiter, a dynamic personality, high character, problem solver vs. a complainer, an inclusive approach (former players, donors, press, fans input considered), a proven head coach and teacher, a builder/change agent type and energetic.
With that in mind, here are some candidates that Cal can, will or possibly should consider:
Potential primary candidates:
Joe Pasternak UCSB head coach, age 41
Pasternack currently holds a record of 132–52 (.713) and 70–30 (.700) in Big West conference play in six seasons in Santa Barbara. The Gauchos tied for 1st in conference this season with a 15-5 record and 27-7 overall, also winning the Big West conference tourney. The Gauchos earned a 14th seed in the NCAA tournament, facing No. 3 seed Baylor in the first round of the South Region on Friday He has experience as an assistant at Cal and Arizona, where he was their lead recruiter, which could be viewed as a strong positive with the elite players he helped bring in
or potentially a negative if he was personally involved in any of their recruiting violations when he was on staff under Sean Miller. He also helped engineer a turnaround at his first head coaching job at New Orleans so he also has experience digging out of holes. UCSB had also gone 25-36 in the two seasons prior to Pasternack’s arrival. He has strong west coast ties and is known as a strong recruiter.
Darian DeVries Drake head coach, age 47
DeVries currently holds a record of 122–47 (.722) and 63–29 (.685) in Missouri Valley conference play in 5 seasons at Drake. Drake is currently 27-7 and finished 2nd in conference with a 15-5 record. Drake earned the No. 12 seed in the Midwest Region and will face No. 5 Miami in Albany, NY. DeVries was twice voted conference Coach of the Year and
has a 1-1 record in NCAA tourney play. Prior to his arrival, Drake went just 23-40 before he engineered a quick turnaround. Combined with his time as an assistant at Creighton, he has a reputation as a strong recruiter and as a dynamic young coach who comes from a good coaching tree, though he does not appear to have particularly strong west coast ties.
Leon Rice, Boise State head coach, age 59
Rice currently holds a record of 267–153 (.636) and 141–88 (.616) in conference play at BSU. They went 13-5 in Mountain
West play this season, and 23-8 overall. Rice was twice named conference Coach of the Year and won two regular season conference and one conference tournament championship in his 14 seasons at BSU. He has significant coaching experience also serving as an assistant at Oregon and Gonzaga, though his age might be a bit less attractive.
Brian Dutcher, San Diego State head coach, age 63
Dutcher currently holds a record of 144–46 (.757) overall and 81–25 (.764) in conference play as head coach at SDSU. SDSU
went 15-3 this season, winning the Mountain West conference title and Mountain West conference tourney. SDSU earned a No. 5 seed in the NCAA Tournament, facing 12th-seeded College of Charleston. Dutcher was a longtime assistant head coach for 9 years at Michigan and 18 years at SDSU under highly-successful head coach Brian Fisher. He’s won 3 conference championships and 2 conference championship tournaments in his 5 seasons with the Aztecs. Dutcher has strong west coast ties and a good recruiting reputation though his age may be seen by some as a drawback.
Mark Pope, BYU head coach, age 50
Pope currently holds a record at BYU of 85–40 (.680) overall and 39–21 (.650) in conference in his 4 seasons at BYU. They went 7-9 in conference this season and 17-15 overall, tying for fifth in the West Coast Conference. The Cougars went to the NCAA tourney in 2020-21 after finishing 20-7
and 10-3, 2nd in conference and to the NIT quarterfinals the next season. Dutcher also was an assistant at Wake Forest and Georgia as well as a player for 6 years in the NBA with Denver, Milwaukee and Indiana. He played for Washington and was the captain of Kentucky’s national championship team in 1996.
Next let’s take a look at several potential targets who some might see as a higher risk/higher reward option for various reasons.
Ryan Odom, Utah State head coach, age 48
Odom holds a record at Utah State of 41–23 (.641)overall and 20–15 (.571) in conference play at Utah State in his two seasons there, currently 23-7 and 12-6 in Mountain West Conference play,
finishing 2nd behind San Diego State and tied with Boise State. Prior to Utah State, Odom turned around an awful UMBC (University of Maryland, Baltimore County) who had gone 11-51 in the 2 seasons prior to his arrival to a first-season 21-13 record and 97-60 in 5 seasons. He was also an assistant at Virginia Tech, South Florida, Furman, UNC-Ashville and Charlotte.
Danny Sprinkle, Montana State, age 45
Sprinkle holds a record of 81–42 (.659) 49–23 (.681) at Montana State in Big Sky play, going 25–9 overall and 15–3 in conference this season, finishing 2nd in the regular season and earning a second straight NCAA tourney appearance with a Big Sky conference tournament championship this season. The Bobcats will face No. Kansas State on Friday in the opening round of the tournament in Greensboro, North Carolina. Sprinkle was named the Big Sky Coach of the Year this season. He took over a program that went just 28-46 in the two seasons before he arrived so he’s no stranger to big turnarounds. He's recruited on the west coast as an assistant at Cal State Northridge and Fullerton State and played collegiately at Montana State in the 90s.
Todd Simon, Southern Utah head coach, age 42
Simon holds a record at Southern Utah of 117-105 overall and 65-54 in conference play at Southern Utah in his 2 seasons there. They finished 20-11 overall currently and 12-6 in WAC Conference play. His teams have finished 64-27 in the last 3 seasons. Interestingly, Simon was part of the founding staff of Findlay Prep in Las Vegas and coached former Cal star Jorge Gutierrez in high school. He was also an assistant head coach and interim head coach at UNLV.
Stan Johnson, Loyola Marymount head coach, age 43
Johnson holds a record at LMU of 43–39 (.524) overall and 19–24 (.442) in WCC conference play at
LMU in his 3 seasons there. They finished this season at 19-12 overall and 9-7 in conference play this season, finishing 4th. Before LMU, Johnson was an assistant at Marquette, ASU, Drake and Utah. He took over a Lions program that went 31-33 prior to his arrival.
Shantay Legans, Portland head coach, age 41
Legans holds a record at Portand of 32–33 (.492) overall and 12–18 (.400) in WCC conference play in his 2 seasons there. They finished this season 13-18 overall and 5-11 in conference play, finishing 8th. He took over a program that had gone just 15-38 the 2 seasons before his arrival. Legans went 39-14 in his final two seasons at Eastern
Washington before taking the Portland job. Legans played point guard at Cal from 1999 to 2002 before transferring to Fresno State.
Tim Miles, San Jose State head coach, age 56
Miles holds a record of 27–35 (.435) overall and 11–25 (.306) at San Jose State in Mountain West play in his 2 seasons there. They finished this season 20-12 overall and 10-8 in MWC play after struggling his first season, taking over a Spartans program that
went just 20-93 in the 4 prior seasons. Prior to SJS, Miles went 116–114 (.504) in 7 seasons at Nebraska and 71-88 at Colorado State.
Grant McCasland, North Texas head coach, age 46
MacCasland holds a record of 129–65 (.663) overall at North Texas and 71–36 (.664) in Conference USA play in his 6 seasons with the Mean Green. They finished the regular season 26-7 overall and 16-4 in C-USA, finishing second. He took over a North Texas program that has gone just 20-42 prior to his arrival, engineering a nice turnaround. His coaching experience at Baylor gave him bigger recruiting exposure and MacCasland also played at Baylor in the 90s.
Rodney Terry, Texas interim head coach, age 54
Terry holds a record of 17-7 overall at Texas and 12-6 in Big-12 conference play since taking over as interim coach after previous head coach Chris Beard was suspended then fired by the
Longhorns. After knocking off No. 1 seed Kansas in the conference tourney, the Longhorns earned the No. 2 seed in the Midwest Region against No. 15 seed Colgate in Des Moines, Iowa on Thursday. Terry got his head coaching start at Fresno State in 2011, taking a few years before turning around the program and winning 20+ games his last three seasons with the Bulldogs. He then took over at UTEP, going 37–48 (.435) overall and 19–33 (.365) in C-USA play in three seasons before moving over to Texas.
Mark Madsen, Utah Valley head coach, age 47
Madsen holds a record of 65–49 (.570) overall at Utah Valley and 38–25 (.528) in WAC conference play since taking over 4 years ago. Utah Valley went 23–7 overall and 14–3 in conference play, winning the WAC conference championship.
The former Stanford power forward had a 9-year NBA career with the Timberwolves and Lakers and spent the preceding years as an assistant, most recently with the Lakers for 4 seasons before taking over at Utah Valley.
Amir Abdur-Rahim, Kennesaw State, age 43
Abdur-Rahim holds a record of 45–73 (.381) overall and 24–41 (.369) in ASUN conference, though after three tough seasons to start his coaching career taking over a program that had gone just 16-46 in the two prior seasons, the younger brother of former Cal star forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim had a breakthrough season this year, going 26–8 overall and 15–3 in conference, winning the conference this season and earning them a No. 14 seed in the Midwest bracket and will take on No. 3 seed Xavier Friday. Prior to his first head coaching job, Abdur-Rahim was an assistant at Georgia, Texas A&M and College of Charleston.
The next category of coaches are likely not available due to various reasons, including jobs that currently could be considered better opportunities, higher salaries that perhaps couldn’t be matched, buyouts that would be impossible to cover and other various factors.
Dennis Gates, Missouri head coach, age 43
Gates holds a record of 24–8 (.750) overall and 11–7 (.611) in SEC play in his first season after taking over for former Cal head coach Cuonzo Martin after the Tigers stagnated in his final
seasons there. The Tigers earned a 7th seed in the 2023 NCAA tourney where they’ll face 10th-seeded Utah State in the first round, playing as part of the South regional in Sacramento. Gates got his start as a head coach at Cleveland State, going 50–40 (.556) overall and 38–21 (.644) in Horizon League play after taking over a program that had gone just 40-89 in the four seasons prior to his arrival. However Gates has a prohibitive buyout that would make it very difficult to afford him even if he wanted to come to Cal. Gates played for the Bears from 1998 to 2002 and was an assistant at Cal when he got his start in coaching as well as at Northern Illinois, Nevada and Florida State before taking over at Cleveland State.
Jamie Dixon, TCU head coach, age 53
Dixon holds a record of 138–95 (.592) overall and 51–73 (.411) in Big 12 play and 21-12 overall and 9-9 in Big 12 play this season, earning 6th seed in the 2023 NCAA tournament, facing the winner of the First Four matchup between Arizona State and Nevada. The winner of that matchup will be the 11th seed. Dixon guided the Horned Frogs to the NCAA tourney last season as well, reaching the round of 32. Dixon took over a TCU team that had gone 30-36 in the two seasons prior to taking over after posting an impressive 328–123 (.727) overall and 143–81 (.638) ACC record at Pitt before making the move to TCU. Dixon however was extended to 2028, making his buyout prohibitive.
Todd Golden, Florida head coach, age 37
Golden holds a record of 16–16 at Florida overall and 9–9 in SEC play since taking over the Gators program this season. He parlayed a record of 57–36 (.613) overall at USF and 23–22 (.511) in conference play to the Florida job. But with 5 years and a 15 million buyout, Golden is not a likely addition.
Chris Beard, former Texas head coach, age 50
Golden posted a record at his most recent stop at Texas of 29–13 (.690) overall and 10–8 (.556) in Big 12 conference play before being dismissed for accusations of physical violence with his fiancee that were later retracted by her. Prior to his brief stint at Texas, Beard went 112–55 (.671) overall and 49–40 (.551) in Big 12 conference play, going to the NCAA finals, the Great 8 and round of 32 in three of his four seasons there. Talk is heating up about Ole Miss making a strong pitch for him and even though the allegations were withdrawn against him, he could be a tricky hire at Cal.
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polarbear said:
Maybe that Purdue coach would like to come here after shocking upsets by the 14 - 16 seeds the last 3 years. At least he wouldn't have to worry about being a tourney upset victim here- at least not for a long time!
Look, we may be the only D-1 team which could multiply this season's win total by 6 or 7 and still miss the NCAA Tournament.Cabin14 said:
Tobin Anderson is a great story but he's pretty much a Tri-state area guy...unfortunately, there's just no fit with Cal, which is a bummer because the guy can really coach.
It is a great example of how a team can make a quick turnaround...not only bring in the right coach, but with the portal, bring in some of his players as well so he can hit the ground running. With the right hire and pieces, there's no reason Cal can't quadruple it's win total next season...
Eric Musselman is 8-2 in the Men's NCAA Tournament as head coach of @RazorbackMBB and has made three Sweet 16s in that span.
— CBS Sports College Basketball 🏀 (@CBSSportsCBB) March 18, 2023
All other coaches since Nolan Richardsom were 3-6 with 0 Sweet 16 appearances. pic.twitter.com/1fg4wvtwhn
BearSD said:
Remember when Cal had a head coaching vacancy, interviewed this guy, and hired Wyking friggin' Jones instead?Eric Musselman is 8-2 in the Men's NCAA Tournament as head coach of @RazorbackMBB and has made three Sweet 16s in that span.
— CBS Sports College Basketball 🏀 (@CBSSportsCBB) March 18, 2023
All other coaches since Nolan Richardsom were 3-6 with 0 Sweet 16 appearances. pic.twitter.com/1fg4wvtwhn
On the same day we hear Amir Abdur-Rahim may be involved at Cal, we have also heard Pasternak to Cal is reaching a conclusion.
— Coaching Changes (@CoachingChanges) March 19, 2023
This hiring season has produced more conflicting rumors from normally reliable sources than any hiring season I can recall.
philbert said:On the same day we hear Amir Abdur-Rahim may be involved at Cal, we have also heard Pasternak to Cal is reaching a conclusion.
— Coaching Changes (@CoachingChanges) March 19, 2023
This hiring season has produced more conflicting rumors from normally reliable sources than any hiring season I can recall.
That's whom I wanted Williams to choose.BearSD said:
Remember when Cal had a head coaching vacancy, interviewed this guy, and hired Wyking friggin' Jones instead?Eric Musselman is 8-2 in the Men's NCAA Tournament as head coach of @RazorbackMBB and has made three Sweet 16s in that span.
— CBS Sports College Basketball 🏀 (@CBSSportsCBB) March 18, 2023
All other coaches since Nolan Richardsom were 3-6 with 0 Sweet 16 appearances. pic.twitter.com/1fg4wvtwhn
Or maybe 666.Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
southseasbear said:That's whom I wanted Williams to choose.BearSD said:
Remember when Cal had a head coaching vacancy, interviewed this guy, and hired Wyking friggin' Jones instead?Eric Musselman is 8-2 in the Men's NCAA Tournament as head coach of @RazorbackMBB and has made three Sweet 16s in that span.
— CBS Sports College Basketball 🏀 (@CBSSportsCBB) March 18, 2023
All other coaches since Nolan Richardsom were 3-6 with 0 Sweet 16 appearances. pic.twitter.com/1fg4wvtwhn
Please interview Amir before making any decisions!philbert said:On the same day we hear Amir Abdur-Rahim may be involved at Cal, we have also heard Pasternak to Cal is reaching a conclusion.
— Coaching Changes (@CoachingChanges) March 19, 2023
This hiring season has produced more conflicting rumors from normally reliable sources than any hiring season I can recall.
OneTopOneChickenApple said:Please interview Amir before making any decisions!philbert said:On the same day we hear Amir Abdur-Rahim may be involved at Cal, we have also heard Pasternak to Cal is reaching a conclusion.
— Coaching Changes (@CoachingChanges) March 19, 2023
This hiring season has produced more conflicting rumors from normally reliable sources than any hiring season I can recall.
Damn!oskidunker said:OneTopOneChickenApple said:Please interview Amir before making any decisions!philbert said:On the same day we hear Amir Abdur-Rahim may be involved at Cal, we have also heard Pasternak to Cal is reaching a conclusion.
— Coaching Changes (@CoachingChanges) March 19, 2023
This hiring season has produced more conflicting rumors from normally reliable sources than any hiring season I can recall.
He just got a contract tension
Link please? Last extension I saw was March 2022oskidunker said:OneTopOneChickenApple said:Please interview Amir before making any decisions!philbert said:On the same day we hear Amir Abdur-Rahim may be involved at Cal, we have also heard Pasternak to Cal is reaching a conclusion.
— Coaching Changes (@CoachingChanges) March 19, 2023
This hiring season has produced more conflicting rumors from normally reliable sources than any hiring season I can recall.
He just got a contract extension
Bobodeluxe said:southseasbear said:That's whom I wanted Williams to choose.BearSD said:
Remember when Cal had a head coaching vacancy, interviewed this guy, and hired Wyking friggin' Jones instead?Eric Musselman is 8-2 in the Men's NCAA Tournament as head coach of @RazorbackMBB and has made three Sweet 16s in that span.
— CBS Sports College Basketball 🏀 (@CBSSportsCBB) March 18, 2023
All other coaches since Nolan Richardsom were 3-6 with 0 Sweet 16 appearances. pic.twitter.com/1fg4wvtwhn
Vetoed by big donors. Move along.
Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
As I recall, Sandy wanted DeCuire but the Chancellor picked Cuonzo.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
Shocky1 said:
calalum, that's 100% not true, mike williams did not donate his salary back to cal according to those within the athletic department
Sandy was overruled by the powerful donors. The Chancellor listened to the $. Can't blame him. Other priorities.southseasbear said:As I recall, Sandy wanted DeCuire but the Chancellor picked Cuonzo.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
William's big mistake was not hiring Jones, but giving him a 5-year contract with an expensive buy-out (since he had no experience as an HC or even the 2nd in command).
The fact that Williams is not as bad as Knowlton does not make his hire a good one. Yes, he was a student athlete but as I recall he had no experience in revenue sports or sports management.
So powerful donors insisted on the hiring of Williams as AD and Jones as coach.Bobodeluxe said:Sandy was overruled by the powerful donors. The Chancellor listened to the $. Can't blame him. Other priorities.southseasbear said:As I recall, Sandy wanted DeCuire but the Chancellor picked Cuonzo.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
William's big mistake was not hiring Jones, but giving him a 5-year contract with an expensive buy-out (since he had no experience as an HC or even the 2nd in command).
The fact that Williams is not as bad as Knowlton does not make his hire a good one. Yes, he was a student athlete but as I recall he had no experience in revenue sports or sports management.
southseasbear said:So powerful donors insisted on the hiring of Williams as AD and Jones as coach.Bobodeluxe said:Sandy was overruled by the powerful donors. The Chancellor listened to the $. Can't blame him. Other priorities.southseasbear said:As I recall, Sandy wanted DeCuire but the Chancellor picked Cuonzo.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
William's big mistake was not hiring Jones, but giving him a 5-year contract with an expensive buy-out (since he had no experience as an HC or even the 2nd in command).
The fact that Williams is not as bad as Knowlton does not make his hire a good one. Yes, he was a student athlete but as I recall he had no experience in revenue sports or sports management.
Hope those powerful donors are staring at themselves in mirrors.
Musselman was my choice. But I understand that his DUI and other behaviors made some not want to hire him. Which I understand. There are always many good choices out there, Cal just does not choose them.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
sluggo said:Musselman was my choice. But I understand that his DUI and other behaviors made some not want to hire him. Which I understand. There are always many good choices out there, Cal just does not choose them.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
Montgomery is another failed NBA coach. I don't think being a failed NBA coach is a black mark, more like getting hired is a mark of success. Musselman reminds me of Harbaugh, a guy will break a few eggs to get a team where it needs to go.calumnus said:sluggo said:Musselman was my choice. But I understand that his DUI and other behaviors made some not want to hire him. Which I understand. There are always many good choices out there, Cal just does not choose them.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
Musselman is an example of "failed NBA coach" and would have been good. The DUI didn't bother me. Plus, he reportedly really wanted the job. He is in an interracial marriage and probably would have preferred to raise his young daughter in the Bay Area. His wife is former ESPN reporter. Whenever she posts stuff about their life in Fayetteville, there is a legion of racist trolls making comments about "Democrats" and worse. I think he would have stayed at Cal long term.
Musselman DeCuire plus Kidd said he was interested the last time. Plenty of better choices.
sluggo said:Montgomery is another failed NBA coach. I don't think being a failed NBA coach is a black mark, more like getting hired is a mark of success. Musselman reminds me of Harbaugh, a guy will break a few eggs to get a team where it needs to go.calumnus said:sluggo said:Musselman was my choice. But I understand that his DUI and other behaviors made some not want to hire him. Which I understand. There are always many good choices out there, Cal just does not choose them.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
Musselman is an example of "failed NBA coach" and would have been good. The DUI didn't bother me. Plus, he reportedly really wanted the job. He is in an interracial marriage and probably would have preferred to raise his young daughter in the Bay Area. His wife is former ESPN reporter. Whenever she posts stuff about their life in Fayetteville, there is a legion of racist trolls making comments about "Democrats" and worse. I think he would have stayed at Cal long term.
Musselman DeCuire plus Kidd said he was interested the last time. Plenty of better choices.
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calumnus said:sluggo said:Montgomery is another failed NBA coach. I don't think being a failed NBA coach is a black mark, more like getting hired is a mark of success. Musselman reminds me of Harbaugh, a guy will break a few eggs to get a team where it needs to go.calumnus said:sluggo said:Musselman was my choice. But I understand that his DUI and other behaviors made some not want to hire him. Which I understand. There are always many good choices out there, Cal just does not choose them.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
Musselman is an example of "failed NBA coach" and would have been good. The DUI didn't bother me. Plus, he reportedly really wanted the job. He is in an interracial marriage and probably would have preferred to raise his young daughter in the Bay Area. His wife is former ESPN reporter. Whenever she posts stuff about their life in Fayetteville, there is a legion of racist trolls making comments about "Democrats" and worse. I think he would have stayed at Cal long term.
Musselman DeCuire plus Kidd said he was interested the last time. Plenty of better choices.
Montgomery was really a poor fit as an NBA coach, not as much as PJ Carlessimo (who actually lasted in the NBA a long time) but bad. However, I agree, NBA coaching and college coaching are different, but with social media, the transfer portal and NIL, the skill set is increasingly similar. Old school authoritarian coaching styles just dont work anymore, but especially in Berkeley. I'd really like to hear Steve Kerr's thoughts on who we should hire.
A DUI should not be disqualifying unless he is being considered for a position driving the team bus.sluggo said:Musselman was my choice. But I understand that his DUI and other behaviors made some not want to hire him. Which I understand. There are always many good choices out there, Cal just does not choose them.calumnus said:Chapman_is_Gone said:
Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.
Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.
Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.
Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.
Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.
Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.
FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.
