I've borrowed this from Calumnus:91Cal said:I don't disagree with your statement that there's not enough data to make the call on whether JK is a good AD or not. However, I would like to know what data you base the statement, "So far, Cal athletics has mostly regressed the last 3 years."socaliganbear said:
There's not enough data to say whether JK is a good AD or not. Obviously, his most high profile hire was a disaster, a big L. In contrast to what appear to be his W's; successful fundraising benchmarks and campus relationship. However, the ultimate goals of a major D1 athletic department are not to be a good bureaucratic entity, but rather to win sports games and provide the university with the larger benefits of those wins. So far, Cal athletics has mostly regressed the last 3 years. The question is, are these the results of the Mike Williams era, or the new norm under JK.
Being really good at running a losing athletics program is not a good thing. There's no reason to spend 100 million dollars every year for these results, even if you do a good job at getting to those results.
My take, without looking into it more deeply is that we are about the same if not a little better simply because the football program is on the rise, fundraising seems to be building some momentum and some of the Title IX deficit is being addressed.
JK does not deserve 100% of the credit for the stadium debt, but it has happened on his watch and is #1 on the list of why the football program (and thus all of IA) is seen as stable as it has been in a decade or more.
Valid criticisms abound:
- Men's basketball is no longer in a free fall...similar to the Sonny hire, no one wanted to come to Cal and take on the dumpster fire WJ was allowed to build;
- Women's basketball literally had the bottom dropped, but general outlook is positive - the coach is well regarded and has strong recruiting results/pipeline building.
- Baseball seems stuck...many cite the coach, I don't know enough
- Volleyball appears to be in a shambles, but the pieces appear to be there...JK inherited a teetering program/coaching situation, but appears to have made a good hire...oh, and BVB beat Stanford!
And positives are out there as well:
- Gymnastics overall and the women in particular has been on the upswing
- Aquatics overall is chugging along and JK should get credit for securing Durden, MWP had its strongest season in a couple of years
- SB coaching hire is highly regarded...one of the rising stars in the coaching ranks. With the new facilities (thanks in particular to Riverboat Ron and his wife!), the recruiting should see the upswing (plus the revenue of hosting regional playoffs)
"In 2016 the third year under AD Mike Williams, Cal had National Championships in Rugby, Men's Rowing, Men's Water Polo, Women's Rowing, Women's Swimming and Diving and Women's Tennis. Men's basketball was 23-11 undefeated at home with a 4th seed. The football team had just come off an 8-5 season with the #1 player selected in the NFL draft. Women's basketball would go 20-14 losing in the second round of the NCAA Tournament"
We are on nowhere near that just a few years later. Now, of course this is not just on the AD, but that's why it's hard to tell whether JK is actually good. We haven't yet seen literally any evidence that his administration can/will lead to wins.
As for Cal football, we don't actually know that it's on the rise. The current coached has so far peaked at the same spot at the same time the last coach did, 8-5 in year 3. And much like the last coach, is decent on one side of the ball, and is horrendously bad on the other side, thus we have a broken program, just like the last time.
Cal athletics are in a very bad place right now.