Cal is going to receive some national attention now if hasn't already.
USC Game canceled.
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Vaccine doesn't work. Players lied. New variant is unstoppable. Testing is getting false positives.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
It has to be one of those. Since there isn't a lockdown of the city, and the CDC hasn't commented, it must be lying players or ****ty tests. Hint: we know false positives are a problem.
BearForce2 said:
Cal is going to receive some national attention now if hasn't already.
The USC game cancellation is the best possible outcome. With the national attention our players can highlight the LIES told by the administration (you'll get arrested if you don't test lol).
Sometime the short term pain is worth it. This will just help our cause to BURN IT TO THE GROUND.
Hopefully, the whole basketball season is cancelled along with it.B.A. Bearacus said:It's been canceled a second time now?GoOskie said:Cal-USC game is off.Bears can’t play. First FBS game off this season bc Covid issues https://t.co/pzE43Fnknk
— Jon Wilner (@wilnerhotline) November 9, 2021
sycasey said:. . . which is actually how the vaccine is supposed to work. We as a society have to decide when asymptomatic "outbreaks" among vaccinated people are acceptable risk.BearSD said:Correct. Probably lots of college athletes got the J&J vax, because it only has one shot, and as long as they are asymptomatic they don't get tested and keep playing.sycasey said:It's almost certain that other programs just aren't testing like Cal is.sosheezy said:They probably took the J&J vaccine which has less efficacy and duration? Also this is probably happening everywhere, just we tested everyone after multiple symptomatic COVID positive cases and found more. Pretty clear the entire college football world is sticking their head in the sand if they don't bother to test already vaccinated players ever under any circumstance.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
This is the key. Most of society has accepted the risk. COB and the university have not. You could argue that kids still aren't able to be fully vaccinated for another month, but that really is the only argument at this point. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed anymore (that was the other good argument)
I picked the right day to start sniffing glue
fat_slice said:
Aren't we the school that invented civil disobedience? Why are we caving to UHS?!?
The ones who resisted authorities when they were students are now running the show.
sycasey said:. . . which is actually how the vaccine is supposed to work. We as a society have to decide when asymptomatic "outbreaks" among vaccinated people are acceptable risk.BearSD said:Correct. Probably lots of college athletes got the J&J vax, because it only has one shot, and as long as they are asymptomatic they don't get tested and keep playing.sycasey said:It's almost certain that other programs just aren't testing like Cal is.sosheezy said:They probably took the J&J vaccine which has less efficacy and duration? Also this is probably happening everywhere, just we tested everyone after multiple symptomatic COVID positive cases and found more. Pretty clear the entire college football world is sticking their head in the sand if they don't bother to test already vaccinated players ever under any circumstance.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
All the time. Only science deniers are worried about it
Northside91 said:
Pedal to the floor, UC/CoB. Almost there.
But as with Aaron, honesty would've been the better way to go. Something like this, "Competitive sporting events are considered inherently dangerous during the endemic phase of COVID 19. Out of an abundance of caution, the University will no longer support campus athletics, inclusive scholarship, non-scholarship and intramural sports. This diktat is effective immediately." Mic drop, static.
except for everyone laughing at us.
espn.com has a short blurb up on it already. Citing Cal's press release and the ability to allow the game not to be a forfeit.
Is any official going to address the "get arrested for not testing" accusation?
Hot mess and such a tragic end to our season. I hope all the lost revenue to Berkeley and the businesses from this gets someone canned.
Who can fire Christ or the AD. One of them must go and throw in Fox as a sweetener. He just rubbed salt in the wound by losing to UCSD.
Hot mess and such a tragic end to our season. I hope all the lost revenue to Berkeley and the businesses from this gets someone canned.
Who can fire Christ or the AD. One of them must go and throw in Fox as a sweetener. He just rubbed salt in the wound by losing to UCSD.
Yeah, I actually hope this incident starts a conversation about when we can let "case rates" go as a metric and focus more on deaths and hospitalizations. Because those are down and have remained down in highly-vaxxed areas. COVID-19 will be endemic, so there will always be cases. If there is no serious illness then maybe we just let people live their lives?bearsandgiants said:sycasey said:. . . which is actually how the vaccine is supposed to work. We as a society have to decide when asymptomatic "outbreaks" among vaccinated people are acceptable risk.BearSD said:Correct. Probably lots of college athletes got the J&J vax, because it only has one shot, and as long as they are asymptomatic they don't get tested and keep playing.sycasey said:It's almost certain that other programs just aren't testing like Cal is.sosheezy said:They probably took the J&J vaccine which has less efficacy and duration? Also this is probably happening everywhere, just we tested everyone after multiple symptomatic COVID positive cases and found more. Pretty clear the entire college football world is sticking their head in the sand if they don't bother to test already vaccinated players ever under any circumstance.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
This is the key. Most of society has accepted the risk. COB and the university have not. You could argue that kids still aren't able to be fully vaccinated for another month, but that really is the only argument at this point. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed anymore (that was the other good argument)
Even for unvaccinated kids the risk was always pretty low.
Don't hold your breath on an actual presser……Knowlton is a tool and doesn't have the gutstouchdownbears43 said:
I'm sure Knowlton or the Chancellor will have a presser to go into detail about what happened.
Game's been rescheduled to Dec 4:
The Cal Football game vs USC has now been rescheduled for Saturday, Dec. 4. The kickoff time and broadcast tv network will be announced at a later date. https://t.co/x4Lep7Qdl7
— Cal Athletics (@CalAthletics) November 10, 2021
rescheduled to 12/4 per Cal/USC! Great news.
We are on the verge of a Arizona/Mackovic type of meltdown. Pretty sure they just killed the morale of the team, student-athletes in other sports, and coaches. After this is all done, maybe the coach from Miramonte High might be in line for the job. Who in their right mind would want to coach this ****-hole.
sycasey said:Yeah, I actually hope this incident starts a conversation about when we can let "case rates" go as a metric and focus more on deaths and hospitalizations. Because those are down and have remained down in highly-vaxxed areas. COVID-19 will be endemic, so there will always be cases. If there is no serious illness then maybe we just let people live their lives?bearsandgiants said:sycasey said:. . . which is actually how the vaccine is supposed to work. We as a society have to decide when asymptomatic "outbreaks" among vaccinated people are acceptable risk.BearSD said:Correct. Probably lots of college athletes got the J&J vax, because it only has one shot, and as long as they are asymptomatic they don't get tested and keep playing.sycasey said:It's almost certain that other programs just aren't testing like Cal is.sosheezy said:They probably took the J&J vaccine which has less efficacy and duration? Also this is probably happening everywhere, just we tested everyone after multiple symptomatic COVID positive cases and found more. Pretty clear the entire college football world is sticking their head in the sand if they don't bother to test already vaccinated players ever under any circumstance.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
This is the key. Most of society has accepted the risk. COB and the university have not. You could argue that kids still aren't able to be fully vaccinated for another month, but that really is the only argument at this point. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed anymore (that was the other good argument)
Even for unvaccinated kids the risk was always pretty low.
Seriously, kids can be playing with more severe symptoms from other pathogens. I'm sure other schools are sweeping plenty of stuff under the rug but Cal gotta Cal.
sosheezy said:
rescheduled to 12/4 per Cal/USC! Great news.
If this thing actually happens, it's going to be our bowl game.
Miss Cleo predicted this.
sosheezy said:
rescheduled to 12/4 per Cal/USC! Great news.
Oh I see you knowlton. Making sure garbers plays against SC. Knowlton playing chess while the rest of you are playing checkers
sycasey said:Yeah, I actually hope this incident starts a conversation about when we can let "case rates" go as a metric and focus more on deaths and hospitalizations. Because those are down and have remained down in highly-vaxxed areas. COVID-19 will be endemic, so there will always be cases. If there is no serious illness then maybe we just let people live their lives?bearsandgiants said:sycasey said:. . . which is actually how the vaccine is supposed to work. We as a society have to decide when asymptomatic "outbreaks" among vaccinated people are acceptable risk.BearSD said:Correct. Probably lots of college athletes got the J&J vax, because it only has one shot, and as long as they are asymptomatic they don't get tested and keep playing.sycasey said:It's almost certain that other programs just aren't testing like Cal is.sosheezy said:They probably took the J&J vaccine which has less efficacy and duration? Also this is probably happening everywhere, just we tested everyone after multiple symptomatic COVID positive cases and found more. Pretty clear the entire college football world is sticking their head in the sand if they don't bother to test already vaccinated players ever under any circumstance.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
This is the key. Most of society has accepted the risk. COB and the university have not. You could argue that kids still aren't able to be fully vaccinated for another month, but that really is the only argument at this point. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed anymore (that was the other good argument)
Even for unvaccinated kids the risk was always pretty low.
More than a thousand Americans are dying every day. Now.
LA Times coverage
It's already been said, but our program has hit an epic new low. If you're competing with us for recruits, how can you lose?
It's already been said, but our program has hit an epic new low. If you're competing with us for recruits, how can you lose?
JimSox said:sycasey said:Yeah, I actually hope this incident starts a conversation about when we can let "case rates" go as a metric and focus more on deaths and hospitalizations. Because those are down and have remained down in highly-vaxxed areas. COVID-19 will be endemic, so there will always be cases. If there is no serious illness then maybe we just let people live their lives?bearsandgiants said:sycasey said:. . . which is actually how the vaccine is supposed to work. We as a society have to decide when asymptomatic "outbreaks" among vaccinated people are acceptable risk.BearSD said:Correct. Probably lots of college athletes got the J&J vax, because it only has one shot, and as long as they are asymptomatic they don't get tested and keep playing.sycasey said:It's almost certain that other programs just aren't testing like Cal is.sosheezy said:They probably took the J&J vaccine which has less efficacy and duration? Also this is probably happening everywhere, just we tested everyone after multiple symptomatic COVID positive cases and found more. Pretty clear the entire college football world is sticking their head in the sand if they don't bother to test already vaccinated players ever under any circumstance.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
This is the key. Most of society has accepted the risk. COB and the university have not. You could argue that kids still aren't able to be fully vaccinated for another month, but that really is the only argument at this point. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed anymore (that was the other good argument)
Even for unvaccinated kids the risk was always pretty low.
More than a thousand Americans are dying every day. Now.
Almost all of them are unvaccinated and of those that are vaccinated, most of those have something else wrong with them such that something like pneumonia or the flu would have killed them, too. This has become just one more terrible thing that can kill you if you're sick, vulnerable, and/or unvaccinated.
Or: vaccine works well enough to keep you from having any symptoms, but not to keep you from testing positive. Which is a nightmare scenario that we're in, until we decide we've gone far enough and just stop testing.LunchTime said:Vaccine doesn't work. Players lied. New variant is unstoppable. Testing is getting false positives.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
It has to be one of those. Since there isn't a lockdown of the city, and the CDC hasn't commented, it must be lying players or ****ty tests. Hint: we know false positives are a problem.
ducky23 said:sosheezy said:
rescheduled to 12/4 per Cal/USC! Great news.
Oh I see you knowlton. Making sure garbers plays against SC. Knowlton playing chess while the rest of you are playing checkers
Not even "regular" chess... seven-dimensional chess. There's a reason we locked in his contract through 2028!
JSC 76 said:Or: vaccine works well enough to keep you from having any symptoms, but not to keep you from testing positive. Which is a nightmare scenario that we're in, until we decide we've gone far enough and just stop testing.LunchTime said:Vaccine doesn't work. Players lied. New variant is unstoppable. Testing is getting false positives.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
It has to be one of those. Since there isn't a lockdown of the city, and the CDC hasn't commented, it must be lying players or ****ty tests. Hint: we know false positives are a problem.
I suppose the J&J could be that. I hadn't realized that was so popular.
Here's what I don't understand: When the UHS is supposedly lying to the players about whether the testing is required or recommended, the Athletic Department doesn't have an expert/advocate in that room? Or at least reviewing the situation immediately afterwards?
Makes no sense.
There is no post-phoning. We have to forfeit, unless they change the rules.B.A. Bearacus said:GMP said:
Cal Athletics released a statement that still more players tested positive.Game Update for Cal Football vs USC this Saturday.
— Cal Athletics (@CalAthletics) November 9, 2021
full release: https://t.co/xtbBSpE4WI pic.twitter.com/qwvjse8iRY
The word postponed was used.
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
JimSox said:sycasey said:Yeah, I actually hope this incident starts a conversation about when we can let "case rates" go as a metric and focus more on deaths and hospitalizations. Because those are down and have remained down in highly-vaxxed areas. COVID-19 will be endemic, so there will always be cases. If there is no serious illness then maybe we just let people live their lives?bearsandgiants said:sycasey said:. . . which is actually how the vaccine is supposed to work. We as a society have to decide when asymptomatic "outbreaks" among vaccinated people are acceptable risk.BearSD said:Correct. Probably lots of college athletes got the J&J vax, because it only has one shot, and as long as they are asymptomatic they don't get tested and keep playing.sycasey said:It's almost certain that other programs just aren't testing like Cal is.sosheezy said:They probably took the J&J vaccine which has less efficacy and duration? Also this is probably happening everywhere, just we tested everyone after multiple symptomatic COVID positive cases and found more. Pretty clear the entire college football world is sticking their head in the sand if they don't bother to test already vaccinated players ever under any circumstance.pingpong2 said:
The heck did the team do, have a makeout session amongst themselves? It's amazing that a 99% vaccinated team can have so many postive cases.
Knowing our luck, this will be ground zero for a new highly contagious variant dubbed the Cal virus.
This is the key. Most of society has accepted the risk. COB and the university have not. You could argue that kids still aren't able to be fully vaccinated for another month, but that really is the only argument at this point. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed anymore (that was the other good argument)
Even for unvaccinated kids the risk was always pretty low.
More than a thousand Americans are dying every day. Now.
And in Berkeley?
8 pm start?B.A. Bearacus said:There is no post-phoning unless you realize the breakup was a mistake and you want to get back together with her on December 4 at the Cal-SC game.oskidunker said:
There is no post-phoning. We have to forfeit, unless they change the rules.
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
Most reps are students. Don't give them any grief. Instead bombard the AD office with emails and demand Knowlton resigns. I've sent over 6 emails to multiple AD staff members and as you probably know, not one response............yet. Knowlton is a putz.Strykur said:Even during the downturn last decade I just ignored calls/emails from Cal Athletics reps, next year I am going to make an effort to respond pointedly after what has transpired over the last 2 months.fat_slice said:If I so much as a get a phone call from the cal athletics office asking about my plans to attend a football game, I will puke on the spot.Rushinbear said:Turns out it was not a lack of communication. It was that they lied. Read Garbers recounting.DiabloWags said:GMP said:
Per Wilner. What a fiasco.
Wilner also tweeted an hour ago that the "lack of communication from UHS to football coaches/ops/admin is a key piece to the puzzle"
If this turns out to be true, it'll take a miracle to keep fb at Cal.
I made plans to go to the big game in a couple weeks but no thanks - this is too moronic to support.
Very happy for the players and their families. They have this game circled like the Furd game. I am frankly surprised that USC agreed. Why not take the forfeit?? The Trojans are circling the toilet and could use the game to get to a bowl.
I hope so.DiabloWags said:
Per Wilner:
"Jimmy Lake has coached his final game at Washington, and Justin Wilcox will be hired by UW within a month"
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
Yes, please don't yell at the poor students who are working the fundraising phones. Don't be a Karen.UrsineMaximus said:Most reps are students. Don't give them any grief. Instead bombard the AD office with emails and demand Knowlton resigns. I've sent over 6 emails to multiple AD staff members and as you probably know, not one response............yet. Knowlton is a putz.Strykur said:Even during the downturn last decade I just ignored calls/emails from Cal Athletics reps, next year I am going to make an effort to respond pointedly after what has transpired over the last 2 months.fat_slice said:If I so much as a get a phone call from the cal athletics office asking about my plans to attend a football game, I will puke on the spot.Rushinbear said:Turns out it was not a lack of communication. It was that they lied. Read Garbers recounting.DiabloWags said:GMP said:
Per Wilner. What a fiasco.
Wilner also tweeted an hour ago that the "lack of communication from UHS to football coaches/ops/admin is a key piece to the puzzle"
If this turns out to be true, it'll take a miracle to keep fb at Cal.
I made plans to go to the big game in a couple weeks but no thanks - this is too moronic to support.
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