Bears Add Purdue Transfer QB Plummer

MoragaBear said:

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ducky23 said:

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MoragaBear said:

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ducky23 said:

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After watching his highlights the only thing I can say with any certainty is that Purdue's Oline is way better than ours

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Sacks allowed: Purdue: 27 Cal: 25

Rushing offense: Purdue: 2.78 ypc Cal: 4.92 ypc

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I'll give you ypc, but sacks allowed isn't all that great of a stat to measure how good an o-line is for pass protect (and you know that just as well as I).

I mean sure, you could be right, but just watching highlights from that one minn game, Plummer had a lot of very clean pockets to throw from.

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Well that would depend on the game. There were a lot of games where Chase had clean pockets all game. They were playing Minnesota in the highlights and Minnesota only had 20 sacks all season not to mention only 11th in the Big Ten in TFLs.

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That's fair (though the highlights are from a 2020 game not a 2021 game, but point taken).

Just sayin. He looks pretty good with a clean pocket, but id like to see what he can do when things aren't so clean.

MoragaBear said:

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ducky23 said:

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After watching his highlights the only thing I can say with any certainty is that Purdue's Oline is way better than ours

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Sacks allowed: Purdue: 27 Cal: 25

Rushing offense: Purdue: 2.78 ypc Cal: 4.92 ypc

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It isn't just about sacks. More important is the number of times the QB was being pressured. Seems like Garbers was under severe pressure on almost every passing play this season.

MoragaBear said:

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. There were a lot of games where Chase had clean pockets all game.

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Oh really? I saw every game, and I don't recall a single game where chase had clean pockets all game. Seemed like he was running for his life every time he dropped back to pass. Our OL was clearly our weakest unit.

As I recall, the last Jake Plummer to play in the Pac was pretty darn good. Hopefully, this one is too.

Didn't Rich Campbell lead the Bears to the long gone Garden State Bowl?

Golden One said:

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MoragaBear said:

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ducky23 said:

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After watching his highlights the only thing I can say with any certainty is that Purdue's Oline is way better than ours

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Sacks allowed: Purdue: 27 Cal: 25

Rushing offense: Purdue: 2.78 ypc Cal: 4.92 ypc

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It isn't just about sacks. More important is the number of times the QB was being pressured. Seems like Garbers was under severe pressure on almost every passing play this season.

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This year Garbers rushed for 467 yards on 103 attempts, most of which were when he escaped pressure. It kept a lot of drives alive. It forced teams to take his running into account. It opens things up.

Clearly Plummer did not do that at Purdue. Now it is possible that rather than run, when pressure comes he is able to scramble to avoid pass rushers and then find an open receiver (more what you see Rodgers and Russell Wilson do). It would be good if he can, but it remains to be seen if he can, here. Like I said, he is a welcome addition and we will see how it all plays out.,

calbear80 said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Tallest QB at Cal along with Davis Webb?

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Rich Campbell (Cal QB from the San Jose area, late 70's) was also 6'-5" (or was he "only" 6'-4"?). I must be old because more than half of the BI posters don't know who Rich Campbell was (and BI poster are not that young).

Go Bears!

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I played catch once with Rich Campbell at Kleeberger field. One of the most talented quarterbacks ever at Cal, very accurate and the tightest spiral. Wasn't great with the deep ball, but I think that's because he had too many slow receivers and was afraid of over throwing them.

Plumdog Millionaire in the house.

ducky23 said:

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MoragaBear said:

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ducky23 said:

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After watching his highlights the only thing I can say with any certainty is that Purdue's Oline is way better than ours

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Sacks allowed: Purdue: 27 Cal: 25

Rushing offense: Purdue: 2.78 ypc Cal: 4.92 ypc

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I'll give you ypc, but sacks allowed isn't all that great of a stat to measure how good an o-line is for pass protect (and you know that just as well as I).

I mean sure, you could be right, but just watching highlights from that one minn game, Plummer had a lot of very clean pockets to throw from.

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Plummer didn't play v. Minnesota. O'Connell was the QB.

Other thoughts…

Never use college rushing stats as a reflection of the ground attack by a team. Unlike the pros, college rushing stats include lost yardage due to sacks.

Purdue rushed for a much better average than 2.9 ypc.

Purdue had a darn good team this year. Finishing 8-4 in the Big Ten is an achievement when one considers the schedule they played.

Lastly, Cal had a terrible OL. Anyone who watched the Bears play doesn't need to review any stats to realize the #1 issue on offense was the OL. As for Purdue 's OL, I did not see them play. Therefore, I can't make an assessment.

NVBear78 said:

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calbear80 said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Tallest QB at Cal along with Davis Webb?

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Rich Campbell (Cal QB from the San Jose area, late 70's) was also 6'-5" (or was he "only" 6'-4"?). I must be old because more than half of the BI posters don't know who Rich Campbell was (and BI poster are not that young).

Go Bears!

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I played catch once with Rich Campbell at Kleeberger field. One of the most talented quarterbacks ever at Cal, very accurate and the tightest spiral. Wasn't great with the deep ball, but I think that's because he had too many slow receivers and was afraid of over throwing them.

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Floyd Eddings was super fast highly recruited WR out of Georgia and played in the NFL and often open deep and frustrated that Campbell would just dump the ball off. Holden Smith was drafted too.

In 1980 Eddings played in all 11 games but had only 6 receptions for 147 yards (24.5 yards per catch). Holden Smith played in all 11 games but only had 8 catches.

Here were the targets in order, receptions YPC;
WR Matt Bouza 44 catches 14.8 YPC
RB John Tuggle 36 catches 9.2 YPC
RB Dave Palmer 30 catches 6.0 YPC
RB Terry Wiley 33 catches 7.7 YPC
TE David Lewis 32 catches 12.2 YPC
TE Don Sprauge 22 catches 11.9 YPC
RB Edgardo Mixco 16 catches 6.8 YPC
WR Michael Buggs 9 catches 15.1 YPC
WR Holden Smith 8 catches 23.9 YPC
WR Floyd Eddings 6 catches 24.5 YPC
WR Tyrone Porter 6 catches 21.7 YPC

Campbell completed 70%, and had a super strong arm, but other than possession receiver Bouza, he threw the vast majority to RBs or TEs. His average completion was 7.4 yards, and a lot of that was RB/TE yards after the catch.

In Cal All-Time History YPC Players with 40 or more
1. Wesley Walker 25.7
2. Holden Smith 22.6
3. Lashaun Ward 20.7
4. Floyd Eddings 20.4
5. Chase Lyman 20.2
6. Sean Dawkins 16.9
7. Trever Davis 16.7
8. Veteran Tucker 16.3
9. Trevon Clark 16.1
10. Geoff McArthur 15.8
11. Steve Sweeney 15.5
12. Mike Ford 15.3
13. Michael Buggs 15.3
14. Bobby Shaw 15.2
15. Richard Rodgers 15.2
16. Steve Rivera 15.1
17. Desean Jackson 15.0
18. Jack Hart 15.0
19. Nyan Boateng 15.0
20. Michael Smith 14.9

So Campbell had 2 of the top 5 deep threat receivers in Cal history, he just mostly threw short to Bouza, the RBs and TEs.

MoragaBear said:

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ducky23 said:

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After watching his highlights the only thing I can say with any certainty is that Purdue's Oline is way better than ours

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Sacks allowed: Purdue: 27 Cal: 25

Rushing offense: Purdue: 2.78 ypc Cal: 4.92 ypc

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It's clear ducky23 is referring to their pass blocking since he watched a QB highlight reel, and for that evaluation the YPC aren't relevant.

As for the sacks allowed, our QBs threw 375 passes, theirs threw 528. In other words, they allowed one sack per 19.6 pass attempts, while we allowed one sack per 15 pass attempts.

Plus their defensive schedule was much more difficult than ours, and our QB was more elusive than theirs. In pass blocking, Purdue's OL was obviously way better than ours.

MoragaBear said:

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Golden One said:

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MoragaBear said:

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. There were a lot of games where Chase had clean pockets all game.

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Oh really? I saw every game, and I don't recall a single game where chase had clean pockets all game. Seemed like he was running for his life every time he dropped back to pass. Our OL was clearly our weakest unit.

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It may have seemed like that but he had lots of time to pass in lots of games.









These are just the first four games I looked at. The pass blocking was poor in a few games but he had plenty of time in the majority of games.

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Then it was just a coincidence that the first four games you looked at happened to be four of our top five high scores vs FBS opponents. If you only looked at the Nevada, WSU, Oregon and UCLA games you'd reach the opposite conclusion.

calumnus said:

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NVBear78 said:

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calbear80 said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Tallest QB at Cal along with Davis Webb?

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Rich Campbell (Cal QB from the San Jose area, late 70's) was also 6'-5" (or was he "only" 6'-4"?). I must be old because more than half of the BI posters don't know who Rich Campbell was (and BI poster are not that young).

Go Bears!

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I played catch once with Rich Campbell at Kleeberger field. One of the most talented quarterbacks ever at Cal, very accurate and the tightest spiral. Wasn't great with the deep ball, but I think that's because he had too many slow receivers and was afraid of over throwing them.

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Floyd Eddings was super fast highly recruited WR out of Georgia and played in the NFL and often open deep and frustrated that Campbell would just dump the ball off. Holden Smith was drafted too.

In 1980 Eddings played in all 11 games but had only 6 receptions for 147 yards (24.5 yards per catch). Holden Smith played in all 11 games but only had 8 catches.

Here were the targets in order, receptions YPC;
WR Matt Bouza 44 catches 14.8 YPC
RB John Tuggle 36 catches 9.2 YPC
RB Dave Palmer 30 catches 6.0 YPC
RB Terry Wiley 33 catches 7.7 YPC
TE David Lewis 32 catches 12.2 YPC
TE Don Sprauge 22 catches 11.9 YPC
RB Edgardo Mixco 16 catches 6.8 YPC
WR Michael Buggs 9 catches 15.1 YPC
WR Holden Smith 8 catches 23.9 YPC
WR Floyd Eddings 6 catches 24.5 YPC
WR Tyrone Porter 6 catches 21.7 YPC

Campbell completed 70%, and had a super strong arm, but other than possession receiver Bouza, he threw the vast majority to RBs or TEs. His average completion was 7.4 yards, and a lot of that was RB/TE yards after the catch.

In Cal All-Time History YPC Players with 40 or more
1. Wesley Walker 25.7
2. Holden Smith 22.6
3. Lashaun Ward 20.7
4. Floyd Eddings 20.4
5. Chase Lyman 20.2
6. Sean Dawkins 16.9
7. Trever Davis 16.7
8. Veteran Tucker 16.3
9. Trevon Clark 16.1
10. Geoff McArthur 15.8
11. Steve Sweeney 15.5
12. Mike Ford 15.3
13. Michael Buggs 15.3
14. Bobby Shaw 15.2
15. Richard Rodgers 15.2
16. Steve Rivera 15.1
17. Desean Jackson 15.0
18. Jack Hart 15.0
19. Nyan Boateng 15.0
20. Michael Smith 14.9

So Campbell had 2 of the top 5 deep threat receivers in Cal history, he just mostly threw short to Bouza, the RBs and TEs.

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Great memory and research! Floyd Eddings was definitely fast. I don't remember Holden Smith seeing the field much though I always heard he was super talented.

I hated Campbell dumping off to Palmer who was slower than Molasses. Always thought if he was just going to dump it off they needed to get it to someone who was a threat.

MoragaBear said:

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kal kommie said:

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MoragaBear said:

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Golden One said:

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MoragaBear said:

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. There were a lot of games where Chase had clean pockets all game.

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Oh really? I saw every game, and I don't recall a single game where chase had clean pockets all game. Seemed like he was running for his life every time he dropped back to pass. Our OL was clearly our weakest unit.

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It may have seemed like that but he had lots of time to pass in lots of games.

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These are just the first four games I looked at. The pass blocking was poor in a few games but he had plenty of time in the majority of games.

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Then it was just a coincidence that the first four games you looked at happened to be four of our top five high scores vs FBS opponents. If you only looked at the Nevada, WSU, Oregon and UCLA games you'd reach the opposite conclusion.

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The Nevada, WSU, Oregon and UCLA games were 4 of the 5 games I said he was under pressure. I said he wasn't under constant pressure in the other 7 games, which was the point I was responding to.

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That's just a response to these being the first four games you happened to look at and post the highlights for.

As for the other comment you made that Chase was under a lot of pressure vs. Nevada, WSU, Oregon, UCLA and to a lesser extent vs USC while he "seemed to have plenty of time in the other 7 games", Chase didn't play vs Arizona so that's 6 games and one of them was vs an FCS team. So vs FBS teams he had good protection against 5 opponents and poor protection against 5.

MoragaBear said:

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kal kommie said:

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MoragaBear said:

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kal kommie said:

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MoragaBear said:

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Golden One said:

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MoragaBear said:

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. There were a lot of games where Chase had clean pockets all game.

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Oh really? I saw every game, and I don't recall a single game where chase had clean pockets all game. Seemed like he was running for his life every time he dropped back to pass. Our OL was clearly our weakest unit.

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It may have seemed like that but he had lots of time to pass in lots of games.

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These are just the first four games I looked at. The pass blocking was poor in a few games but he had plenty of time in the majority of games.

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Then it was just a coincidence that the first four games you looked at happened to be four of our top five high scores vs FBS opponents. If you only looked at the Nevada, WSU, Oregon and UCLA games you'd reach the opposite conclusion.

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The Nevada, WSU, Oregon and UCLA games were 4 of the 5 games I said he was under pressure. I said he wasn't under constant pressure in the other 7 games, which was the point I was responding to.

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That's just a response to these being the first four games you happened to look at and post the highlights for.

As for the other comment you made that Chase was under a lot of pressure vs. Nevada, WSU, Oregon, UCLA and to a lesser extent vs USC while he "seemed to have plenty of time in the other 7 games", Chase didn't play vs Arizona so that's 6 games and one of them was vs an FCS team. So vs FBS teams he had good protection against 5 opponents and poor protection against 5.

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Again, it was in response to the post that he was under pressure every time he dropped back to pass all season. But this isn't really going anywhere so I'm going to bow out on this one.

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Final thought - now, I'll have to watch the Purdue/Tennessee bowl game…….

NVBear78 said:

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calumnus said:

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NVBear78 said:

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calbear80 said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Tallest QB at Cal along with Davis Webb?

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Rich Campbell (Cal QB from the San Jose area, late 70's) was also 6'-5" (or was he "only" 6'-4"?). I must be old because more than half of the BI posters don't know who Rich Campbell was (and BI poster are not that young).

Go Bears!

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I played catch once with Rich Campbell at Kleeberger field. One of the most talented quarterbacks ever at Cal, very accurate and the tightest spiral. Wasn't great with the deep ball, but I think that's because he had too many slow receivers and was afraid of over throwing them.

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Floyd Eddings was super fast highly recruited WR out of Georgia and played in the NFL and often open deep and frustrated that Campbell would just dump the ball off. Holden Smith was drafted too.

In 1980 Eddings played in all 11 games but had only 6 receptions for 147 yards (24.5 yards per catch). Holden Smith played in all 11 games but only had 8 catches.

Here were the targets in order, receptions YPC;
WR Matt Bouza 44 catches 14.8 YPC
RB John Tuggle 36 catches 9.2 YPC
RB Dave Palmer 30 catches 6.0 YPC
RB Terry Wiley 33 catches 7.7 YPC
TE David Lewis 32 catches 12.2 YPC
TE Don Sprauge 22 catches 11.9 YPC
RB Edgardo Mixco 16 catches 6.8 YPC
WR Michael Buggs 9 catches 15.1 YPC
WR Holden Smith 8 catches 23.9 YPC
WR Floyd Eddings 6 catches 24.5 YPC
WR Tyrone Porter 6 catches 21.7 YPC

Campbell completed 70%, and had a super strong arm, but other than possession receiver Bouza, he threw the vast majority to RBs or TEs. His average completion was 7.4 yards, and a lot of that was RB/TE yards after the catch.

In Cal All-Time History YPC Players with 40 or more
1. Wesley Walker 25.7
2. Holden Smith 22.6
3. Lashaun Ward 20.7
4. Floyd Eddings 20.4
5. Chase Lyman 20.2
6. Sean Dawkins 16.9
7. Trever Davis 16.7
8. Veteran Tucker 16.3
9. Trevon Clark 16.1
10. Geoff McArthur 15.8
11. Steve Sweeney 15.5
12. Mike Ford 15.3
13. Michael Buggs 15.3
14. Bobby Shaw 15.2
15. Richard Rodgers 15.2
16. Steve Rivera 15.1
17. Desean Jackson 15.0
18. Jack Hart 15.0
19. Nyan Boateng 15.0
20. Michael Smith 14.9

So Campbell had 2 of the top 5 deep threat receivers in Cal history, he just mostly threw short to Bouza, the RBs and TEs.

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Great memory and research! Floyd Eddings was definitely fast. I don't remember Holden Smith seeing the field much though I always heard he was super talented.

I hated Campbell dumping off to Palmer who was slower than Molasses. Always thought if he was just going to dump it off they needed to get it to someone who was a threat.

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That was my freshman year and first year as a Cal fan, and remember it well. You could see Eddings' frustration on the field when he would be open deep but rarely got thrown too. A good friend of mine who I attended the games with was dating Rich Dixon and hung out with the team, she said Floyd complained about it all the time.

calumnus said:

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Floyd Eddings was super fast highly recruited WR out of Georgia and played in the NFL and often open deep and frustrated that Campbell would just dump the ball off. Holden Smith was drafted too.

In 1980 Eddings played in all 11 games but had only 6 receptions for 147 yards (24.5 yards per catch). Holden Smith played in all 11 games but only had 8 catches.

So Campbell had 2 of the top 5 deep threat receivers in Cal history, he just mostly threw short to Bouza, the RBs and TEs.

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All true.
Eddings was fast

Holden was also FAST.
The fastest white guy on campus. 6'1" and 190.
Ran track (lead-off on the 4x100m team that placed 5th at the NCAA's that also included Wesley Walker)
Holden was a total nut case but he had wheels. Drafted in the 11th round. Played 1 year in NFL.
To say he was "goofy" would be an understatement.

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That was my freshman year and first year as a Cal fan, and remember it well. You could see Eddings' frustration on the field when he would be open deep but rarely got thrown too. A good friend of mine who I attended the games with was dating Rich Dixon and hung out with the team, she said Floyd complained about it all the time.

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I was friends with the Lozica brothers (Mike and Nick) who were 3rd string out of San Pedro.
Eddings was clearly frustrated. As a senior in 1981, he only had 17 receptions for a career high 383 yards.

An undrafted free agent, he played two seasons with the NY Giants in '82 and '83
28 catches for 506 yards.

One of Edding's longest catches came in 1977 when Charlie Young ( a JC transfer ) was asked to replace the graduated Joe Roth at the beginning of the '77 season. (our other QB Justin Vedder was also a JC transfer). Young's first game came before 84,000 fans at Tennessee's Neyland Stadium and he responded as the Bears won 27 - 17. - - - Young connected with Eddings for a 58 yard TD pass in the third quarter that opened the game up for the Bears after a 10 - 10 tie.

Video of Eddings with the NY Giants as a "One-Game" wonder.
One of the greatest first game debuts of ALL-TIME.

Week #14 . . . NY Giants vs Philly Eagles.
Coming into this game, the Giants had only 2 pass plays over 40 yards all season!

Start the playback at the 2:14 mark.
Great story!

The BIGGEST ONE-GAME WONDER in New York Giants HISTORY - YouTube

This is great news but is there any reason I don't see any other mention of it on other public sites? For example nothing on Twitter I've seen on this including Jack's account.

fat_slice said:

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This is great news but is there any reason I don't see any other mention of it on other public sites? For example nothing on Twitter I've seen on this including Jack's account.

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Yah it seems kind of under the radar.

DiabloWags said:

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calumnus said:

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That was my freshman year and first year as a Cal fan, and remember it well. You could see Eddings' frustration on the field when he would be open deep but rarely got thrown too. A good friend of mine who I attended the games with was dating Rich Dixon and hung out with the team, she said Floyd complained about it all the time.

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I was friends with the Lozica brothers (Mike and Nick) who were 3rd string out of San Pedro.
Eddings was clearly frustrated. As a senior in 1981, he only had 17 receptions for a career high 383 yards.

An undrafted free agent, he played two seasons with the NY Giants in '82 and '83
28 catches for 506 yards.

One of Edding's longest catches came in 1977 when Charlie Young ( a JC transfer ) was asked to replace the graduated Joe Roth at the beginning of the '77 season. (our other QB Justin Vedder was also a JC transfer). Young's first game came before 84,000 fans at Tennessee's Neyland Stadium and he responded as the Bears won 27 - 17. - - - Young connected with Eddings for a 58 yard TD pass in the third quarter that opened the game up for the Bears after a 10 - 10 tie.

Video of Eddings with the NY Giants as a "One-Game" wonder.
One of the greatest first game debuts of ALL-TIME.

Week #14 . . . NY Giants vs Philly Eagles.
Coming into this game, the Giants had only 2 pass plays over 40 yards all season!

Start the playback at the 2:14 mark.
Great story!

The BIGGEST ONE-GAME WONDER in New York Giants HISTORY - YouTube

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More great memories by all!

I also remember Charlie Young starting the game against Oregon State (IIRC) in 1977 and hitting Floyd Eddings on an 80 yard TD the first play of the game. I remember Eddings running a perfect out and up and blowing by his man.

Anyone else confirm or correct my memory?

How long will Jake continue to deny paternity?

MoragaBear said:

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Golden One said:

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MoragaBear said:

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ducky23 said:

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After watching his highlights the only thing I can say with any certainty is that Purdue's Oline is way better than ours

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Sacks allowed: Purdue: 27 Cal: 25

Rushing offense: Purdue: 2.78 ypc Cal: 4.92 ypc

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It isn't just about sacks. More important is the number of times the QB was being pressured. Seems like Garbers was under severe pressure on almost every passing play this season.

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Almost every passing play? He was under pressure a lot against Nevada, Oregon, WSU and UCLA and some against USC but he seemed to have plenty of time in the other 7 games.

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Sorry, but that's not the way I recalled the season. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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Didn't Rich Campbell lead the Bears to the long gone Garden State Bowl?

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Yes. Cal had a 6-5 record and went to the Garden State Bowl where they were throttled by Temple. It seemed as if Cal had not practiced since the Big Game.

calumnus said:

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NVBear78 said:

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calumnus said:

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NVBear78 said:

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calbear80 said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Tallest QB at Cal along with Davis Webb?

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Rich Campbell (Cal QB from the San Jose area, late 70's) was also 6'-5" (or was he "only" 6'-4"?). I must be old because more than half of the BI posters don't know who Rich Campbell was (and BI poster are not that young).

Go Bears!

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I played catch once with Rich Campbell at Kleeberger field. One of the most talented quarterbacks ever at Cal, very accurate and the tightest spiral. Wasn't great with the deep ball, but I think that's because he had too many slow receivers and was afraid of over throwing them.

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Floyd Eddings was super fast highly recruited WR out of Georgia and played in the NFL and often open deep and frustrated that Campbell would just dump the ball off. Holden Smith was drafted too.

In 1980 Eddings played in all 11 games but had only 6 receptions for 147 yards (24.5 yards per catch). Holden Smith played in all 11 games but only had 8 catches.

Here were the targets in order, receptions YPC;
WR Matt Bouza 44 catches 14.8 YPC
RB John Tuggle 36 catches 9.2 YPC
RB Dave Palmer 30 catches 6.0 YPC
RB Terry Wiley 33 catches 7.7 YPC
TE David Lewis 32 catches 12.2 YPC
TE Don Sprauge 22 catches 11.9 YPC
RB Edgardo Mixco 16 catches 6.8 YPC
WR Michael Buggs 9 catches 15.1 YPC
WR Holden Smith 8 catches 23.9 YPC
WR Floyd Eddings 6 catches 24.5 YPC
WR Tyrone Porter 6 catches 21.7 YPC

Campbell completed 70%, and had a super strong arm, but other than possession receiver Bouza, he threw the vast majority to RBs or TEs. His average completion was 7.4 yards, and a lot of that was RB/TE yards after the catch.

In Cal All-Time History YPC Players with 40 or more
1. Wesley Walker 25.7
2. Holden Smith 22.6
3. Lashaun Ward 20.7
4. Floyd Eddings 20.4
5. Chase Lyman 20.2
6. Sean Dawkins 16.9
7. Trever Davis 16.7
8. Veteran Tucker 16.3
9. Trevon Clark 16.1
10. Geoff McArthur 15.8
11. Steve Sweeney 15.5
12. Mike Ford 15.3
13. Michael Buggs 15.3
14. Bobby Shaw 15.2
15. Richard Rodgers 15.2
16. Steve Rivera 15.1
17. Desean Jackson 15.0
18. Jack Hart 15.0
19. Nyan Boateng 15.0
20. Michael Smith 14.9

So Campbell had 2 of the top 5 deep threat receivers in Cal history, he just mostly threw short to Bouza, the RBs and TEs.

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Great memory and research! Floyd Eddings was definitely fast. I don't remember Holden Smith seeing the field much though I always heard he was super talented.

I hated Campbell dumping off to Palmer who was slower than Molasses. Always thought if he was just going to dump it off they needed to get it to someone who was a threat.

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That was my freshman year and first year as a Cal fan, and remember it well. You could see Eddings' frustration on the field when he would be open deep but rarely got thrown too. A good friend of mine who I attended the games with was dating Rich Dixon and hung out with the team, she said Floyd complained about it all the time.

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Coach Roger Theder utilized a ball control short passing game because we didn't have the ability to dominate the game on the ground and our defense was not strong. It was his most successful season at Cal which led to our first bowl game since Joe Kapp in 1959.

NVBear78 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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calumnus said:

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That was my freshman year and first year as a Cal fan, and remember it well. You could see Eddings' frustration on the field when he would be open deep but rarely got thrown too. A good friend of mine who I attended the games with was dating Rich Dixon and hung out with the team, she said Floyd complained about it all the time.

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I was friends with the Lozica brothers (Mike and Nick) who were 3rd string out of San Pedro.
Eddings was clearly frustrated. As a senior in 1981, he only had 17 receptions for a career high 383 yards.

An undrafted free agent, he played two seasons with the NY Giants in '82 and '83
28 catches for 506 yards.

One of Edding's longest catches came in 1977 when Charlie Young ( a JC transfer ) was asked to replace the graduated Joe Roth at the beginning of the '77 season. (our other QB Justin Vedder was also a JC transfer). Young's first game came before 84,000 fans at Tennessee's Neyland Stadium and he responded as the Bears won 27 - 17. - - - Young connected with Eddings for a 58 yard TD pass in the third quarter that opened the game up for the Bears after a 10 - 10 tie.

Video of Eddings with the NY Giants as a "One-Game" wonder.
One of the greatest first game debuts of ALL-TIME.

Week #14 . . . NY Giants vs Philly Eagles.
Coming into this game, the Giants had only 2 pass plays over 40 yards all season!

Start the playback at the 2:14 mark.
Great story!

The BIGGEST ONE-GAME WONDER in New York Giants HISTORY - YouTube

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More great memories by all!

I also remember Charlie Young starting the game against Oregon State (IIRC) in 1977 and hitting Floyd Eddings on an 80 yard TD the first play of the game. I remember Eddings running a perfect out and up and blowing by his man.

Anyone else confirm or correct my memory?

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I was also at that game and that's exactly what happened.