The NFL’s worst special teams unit turned in one of the worst special teams performances in NFL playoff history … and appears to have had only 10 men on the field for the winning field goal. pic.twitter.com/bJvPtHYXkQ

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 23, 2022

If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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A lot of SB winners have had worse QB play than Jimmy is capable of on an average day. See John Elway, Trent Dilfer, Tom Brady (first SB), Big Ben. It's not a small list.

I don't think the niners can beat the Chiefs with Mahomes but they can beat everyone else left, assuming Bosa, Deebo and Kittle are all good to go.

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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A lot of SB winners have had worse QB play than Jimmy is capable of on an average day. See John Elway, Trent Dilfer, Tom Brady (first SB), Big Ben. It's not a small list.

I don't think the niners can beat the Chiefs with Mahomes but they can beat everyone else left, assuming Bosa, Deebo and Kittle are all good to go.

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If Williams is healthy (he left the field using crutches), SF has a shot. IMO, he is vital to their chances of winning next week (regardless of opponent).

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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A lot of SB winners have had worse QB play than Jimmy is capable of on an average day. See John Elway, Trent Dilfer, Tom Brady (first SB), Big Ben. It's not a small list.

I don't think the niners can beat the Chiefs with Mahomes but they can beat everyone else left, assuming Bosa, Deebo and Kittle are all good to go.

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Even the Chiefs have looked shaky at times this year. Not as explosive as they used to be on offense. Anyone is beatable.

I guess I'm a Rams fan but I'd give anything if they could win but McVay could somehow lose.

Gamblers have influenced this game or the Rams are




Rams played ballsy when it counted.

Hey Bucs, that Cooper Kupp guy is pretty good, maybe don't leave him wide open.

Insanity in KC.

What curse words have you texted your friends in the past 15 minutes?

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What curse words have you texted your friends in the past 15 minutes?

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Pass D for both teams must have been pooped for 25 points in 2 minutes.

Critical point at the end of the game and this happens. 100% ok with Diggs here. Hope this guy is really, really sore tomorrow.

ICYMI: Stefon Diggs helps takes down the Chiefs fan who ran on the field. 😳#BUFvsKC #BillsMafia #ChiefsKingdom
pic.twitter.com/0V2ntLDQDN

— SportsGrid (@SportsGrid) January 24, 2022

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Critical point at the end of the game and this happens. 100% ok with Diggs here. Hope this guys is really, really sore tomorrow.

ICYMI: Stefon Diggs helps takes down the Chiefs fan who ran on the field. 😳#BUFvsKC #BillsMafia #ChiefsKingdom
pic.twitter.com/0V2ntLDQDN

— SportsGrid (@SportsGrid) January 24, 2022

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Well I'm not ok with it. The guy got up too fast. He should have given him the ole Jack Tatum.

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Critical point at the end of the game and this happens. 100% ok with Diggs here. Hope this guys is really, really sore tomorrow.

ICYMI: Stefon Diggs helps takes down the Chiefs fan who ran on the field. 😳#BUFvsKC #BillsMafia #ChiefsKingdom
pic.twitter.com/0V2ntLDQDN

— SportsGrid (@SportsGrid) January 24, 2022

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Well I'm not ok with it. The guy got up too fast. He should have given him the ole Jack Tatum.

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What's the liability for NFL players dishing out punishment to fans who decide to stroll out onto the field? Imagine if an inside linebacker hit him instead.

Yeah, an opposing player could get lit up by a KC jury in a civil action by an injured KC fan.

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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The Broncos didn't win that SB just because of smash mouth defense, they won it with maybe the best defensive performance in a SB since the 1985 Chicago Bears. (Also, the MVP from that SB is now with the Rams and made a couple of big plays against Tampa.)

The 49ers defense had the weather helping them to hold down the Packers offense on Saturday. Weather isn't going to help them at SoFi. They will either need a lot more offense, or some help from Stafford throwing INTs, or the Rams special teams giving away points like the Packers did.

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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The Broncos didn't win that SB just because of smash mouth defense, they won it with maybe the best defensive performance in a SB since the 1985 Chicago Bears. (Also, the MVP from that SB is now with the Rams and made a couple of big plays against Tampa.)

The 49ers defense had the weather helping them to hold down the Packers offense on Saturday. Weather isn't going to help them at SoFi. They will either need a lot more offense, or some help from Stafford throwing INTs, or the Rams special teams giving away points like the Packers did.

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The 49ers already beat the Rams twice this year. Safe to say they have a shot.

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BearSD said:

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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The Broncos didn't win that SB just because of smash mouth defense, they won it with maybe the best defensive performance in a SB since the 1985 Chicago Bears. (Also, the MVP from that SB is now with the Rams and made a couple of big plays against Tampa.)

The 49ers defense had the weather helping them to hold down the Packers offense on Saturday. Weather isn't going to help them at SoFi. They will either need a lot more offense, or some help from Stafford throwing INTs, or the Rams special teams giving away points like the Packers did.

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The 49ers already beat the Rams twice this year. Safe to say they have a shot.

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The question will be whether Stafford can handle a loud road game environment in a dome.

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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The Broncos didn't win that SB just because of smash mouth defense, they won it with maybe the best defensive performance in a SB since the 1985 Chicago Bears. (Also, the MVP from that SB is now with the Rams and made a couple of big plays against Tampa.)

The 49ers defense had the weather helping them to hold down the Packers offense on Saturday. Weather isn't going to help them at SoFi. They will either need a lot more offense, or some help from Stafford throwing INTs, or the Rams special teams giving away points like the Packers did.

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The 49ers already beat the Rams twice this year. Safe to say they have a shot.

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McVay has 6 straight L's against Shanahan. Rams haven't won since 2018. The game a few weeks ago was close but niners won by 3 TDs in mid November. If I'm the Rams, I'm thinking a lot more about those games than the way the niners looked at Lambeau this weekend.

Will be interesting to see if the Rams have fans in the stands for the NFC championship or if Stafford will have to go with the silent count again.

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Battle Royale casualties mount.

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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The Broncos didn't win that SB just because of smash mouth defense, they won it with maybe the best defensive performance in a SB since the 1985 Chicago Bears. (Also, the MVP from that SB is now with the Rams and made a couple of big plays against Tampa.)

The 49ers defense had the weather helping them to hold down the Packers offense on Saturday. Weather isn't going to help them at SoFi. They will either need a lot more offense, or some help from Stafford throwing INTs, or the Rams special teams giving away points like the Packers did.

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The 49ers already beat the Rams twice this year. Safe to say they have a shot.

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McVay has 6 straight L's against Shanahan. Rams haven't won since 2018. The game a few weeks ago was close but niners won by 3 TDs in mid November. If I'm the Rams, I'm thinking a lot more about those games than the way the niners looked at Lambeau this weekend.

Will be interesting to see if the Rams have fans in the stands for the NFC championship or if Stafford will have to go with the silent count again.

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It's also funny to see someone now claiming the weather at Lambeau was some kind of ADVANTAGE for the 49ers. That wasn't the narrative heading into that game.

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Unit2Sucks said:

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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The Broncos didn't win that SB just because of smash mouth defense, they won it with maybe the best defensive performance in a SB since the 1985 Chicago Bears. (Also, the MVP from that SB is now with the Rams and made a couple of big plays against Tampa.)

The 49ers defense had the weather helping them to hold down the Packers offense on Saturday. Weather isn't going to help them at SoFi. They will either need a lot more offense, or some help from Stafford throwing INTs, or the Rams special teams giving away points like the Packers did.

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The 49ers already beat the Rams twice this year. Safe to say they have a shot.

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McVay has 6 straight L's against Shanahan. Rams haven't won since 2018. The game a few weeks ago was close but niners won by 3 TDs in mid November. If I'm the Rams, I'm thinking a lot more about those games than the way the niners looked at Lambeau this weekend.

Will be interesting to see if the Rams have fans in the stands for the NFC championship or if Stafford will have to go with the silent count again.

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It's also funny to see someone now claiming the weather at Lambeau was some kind of ADVANTAGE for the 49ers. That wasn't the narrative heading into that game.

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Well I think that's true because bad weather often serves as an equalizer and I think it did this weekend. The weather certainly didn't help Green Bay's high flying offense. Both teams scored 4 TDs when they played each other in September and I think we would have seen more scoring if the game were in normal weather conditions.

That doesn't take anything away from the niners who kept it within striking distance and won the game with better special teams play and a few very strong plays when they needed it most.

Unit2Sucks said:

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sycasey said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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sycasey said:

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BearSD said:

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bearister said:

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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The Broncos didn't win that SB just because of smash mouth defense, they won it with maybe the best defensive performance in a SB since the 1985 Chicago Bears. (Also, the MVP from that SB is now with the Rams and made a couple of big plays against Tampa.)

The 49ers defense had the weather helping them to hold down the Packers offense on Saturday. Weather isn't going to help them at SoFi. They will either need a lot more offense, or some help from Stafford throwing INTs, or the Rams special teams giving away points like the Packers did.

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The 49ers already beat the Rams twice this year. Safe to say they have a shot.

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McVay has 6 straight L's against Shanahan. Rams haven't won since 2018. The game a few weeks ago was close but niners won by 3 TDs in mid November. If I'm the Rams, I'm thinking a lot more about those games than the way the niners looked at Lambeau this weekend.

Will be interesting to see if the Rams have fans in the stands for the NFC championship or if Stafford will have to go with the silent count again.

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It's also funny to see someone now claiming the weather at Lambeau was some kind of ADVANTAGE for the 49ers. That wasn't the narrative heading into that game.

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Well I think that's true because bad weather often serves as an equalizer and I think it did this weekend. The weather certainly didn't help Green Bay's high flying offense. Both teams scored 4 TDs when they played each other in September and I think we would have seen more scoring if the game were in normal weather conditions.

That doesn't take anything away from the niners who kept it within striking distance and won the game with better special teams play and a few very strong plays when they needed it most.

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That's just it, if the Packers score more then maybe the Niners also score more and the result is the same. Who knows?

But the team from Wisconsin should probably be better at playing in the snow than the one from California.

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sycasey said:

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BearSD said:

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bearister said:

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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The Broncos didn't win that SB just because of smash mouth defense, they won it with maybe the best defensive performance in a SB since the 1985 Chicago Bears. (Also, the MVP from that SB is now with the Rams and made a couple of big plays against Tampa.)

The 49ers defense had the weather helping them to hold down the Packers offense on Saturday. Weather isn't going to help them at SoFi. They will either need a lot more offense, or some help from Stafford throwing INTs, or the Rams special teams giving away points like the Packers did.

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The 49ers already beat the Rams twice this year. Safe to say they have a shot.

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McVay has 6 straight L's against Shanahan. Rams haven't won since 2018. The game a few weeks ago was close but niners won by 3 TDs in mid November. If I'm the Rams, I'm thinking a lot more about those games than the way the niners looked at Lambeau this weekend.

Will be interesting to see if the Rams have fans in the stands for the NFC championship or if Stafford will have to go with the silent count again.

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It's also funny to see someone now claiming the weather at Lambeau was some kind of ADVANTAGE for the 49ers. That wasn't the narrative heading into that game.

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Well I think that's true because bad weather often serves as an equalizer and I think it did this weekend. The weather certainly didn't help Green Bay's high flying offense. Both teams scored 4 TDs when they played each other in September and I think we would have seen more scoring if the game were in normal weather conditions.

That doesn't take anything away from the niners who kept it within striking distance and won the game with better special teams play and a few very strong plays when they needed it most.

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That's just it, if the Packers score more then maybe the Niners also score more and the result is the same. Who knows?

But the team from Wisconsin should probably be better at playing in the snow than the one from California.

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You would think, but you watched the game. Do you think the weather helped the packers?

I think that weather neutralized GB's massive QB advantage. If I'm AR, I want to go play for Sean Payton in the dome. Is there any doubt the 49ers would be in worse shape if they were playing AR this weekend at Sofi?

The theory about the frozen tundra of Lambeau field helping the home team doesn't really work when the home team throws the ball 60% of the time (vs the 9ers 50/50 mix). The weather gave the niners a puncher's chance and they took advantage of it.

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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BearSD said:

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bearister said:

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sycasey said:

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If the 49ers' defense can keep pressuring the QB like this, there's no reason they can't pull off a win vs the Bucs or Rams next week too. That game should be played in much nicer weather too.

Chiefs or Bills with mobile QBs would be a much tougher test in the Super Bowl, though.

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When Peyton Manning's Bronco's won the SB when he had an injured wing and could only throw the ball 10 yards, they won because of smash mouth defense. After that win on the tundra, the Niners must feel mean enough to stomp whoever next in line is.

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The Broncos didn't win that SB just because of smash mouth defense, they won it with maybe the best defensive performance in a SB since the 1985 Chicago Bears. (Also, the MVP from that SB is now with the Rams and made a couple of big plays against Tampa.)

The 49ers defense had the weather helping them to hold down the Packers offense on Saturday. Weather isn't going to help them at SoFi. They will either need a lot more offense, or some help from Stafford throwing INTs, or the Rams special teams giving away points like the Packers did.

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The 49ers already beat the Rams twice this year. Safe to say they have a shot.

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McVay has 6 straight L's against Shanahan. Rams haven't won since 2018. The game a few weeks ago was close but niners won by 3 TDs in mid November. If I'm the Rams, I'm thinking a lot more about those games than the way the niners looked at Lambeau this weekend.

Will be interesting to see if the Rams have fans in the stands for the NFC championship or if Stafford will have to go with the silent count again.

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It's also funny to see someone now claiming the weather at Lambeau was some kind of ADVANTAGE for the 49ers. That wasn't the narrative heading into that game.

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Well I think that's true because bad weather often serves as an equalizer and I think it did this weekend. The weather certainly didn't help Green Bay's high flying offense. Both teams scored 4 TDs when they played each other in September and I think we would have seen more scoring if the game were in normal weather conditions.

That doesn't take anything away from the niners who kept it within striking distance and won the game with better special teams play and a few very strong plays when they needed it most.

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That's just it, if the Packers score more then maybe the Niners also score more and the result is the same. Who knows?

But the team from Wisconsin should probably be better at playing in the snow than the one from California.

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You would think, but you watched the game. Do you think the weather helped the packers?

I think that weather neutralized GB's massive QB advantage. If I'm AR, I want to go play for Sean Payton in the dome. Is there any doubt the 49ers would be in worse shape if they were playing AR this weekend at Sofi?

The theory about the frozen tundra of Lambeau field helping the home team doesn't really work when the home team throws the ball 60% of the time (vs the 9ers 50/50 mix). The weather gave the niners a puncher's chance and they took advantage of it.

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Maybe the 49ers defense neutralized the QB advantage. Garoppolo's throws would have also been affected by the weather. Niners had some drops that might have been caught if not for the weather. I'm not certain they are at greater disadvantage in a dome. With good weather it's Levi's early in the season we got a 2-point game, so it looks like things are evenly matched between these teams.

My point is that this is all pure hindsight. If the Niners had lost by 3 then the narrative would be about how Jimmy G and the California boys couldn't hack it in the cold. Maybe it's just that these teams are close.

I mean, the narrative about Jimmy G is pretty established. Kyle doesn't trust him to do that much and doesn't ask for much. On 3rd and 7 with the game on the line, he ran an inside draw with a WR. Jimmy's offense generated no TDs.

I'm a niner fan but just being honest about what happened and what this team is. I think the weather kept it low scoring and close and gave the niners a puncher's chance. They took advantage of GB's many mistakes and came away with the win. I feel good about the NFC championship game. That doesn't mean that I can't be objective about what the niners did on Saturday and what they've done this season. There is a reason they they went 10-7 in the regular season.

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The theory about the frozen tundra of Lambeau field helping the home team doesn't really work ...

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... because it's a theory from the past and not the present. It's a legend that started with the "Ice Bowl" game in 1967, the game for which the frozen tundra phrase was coined. It continued because the Packers won their first 11 playoff games at Lambeau Field, starting with the 1961 NFL championship game.

But, that streak was broken in January 2003 when the Packers lost a home wild card game to the Falcons. From that day forward, the Packers are only 7-7 in home playoff games.

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I mean, the narrative about Jimmy G is pretty established. Kyle doesn't trust him to do that much and doesn't ask for much. On 3rd and 7 with the game on the line, he ran an inside draw with a WR. Jimmy's offense generated no TDs.

I'm a niner fan but just being honest about what happened and what this team is. I think the weather kept it low scoring and close and gave the niners a puncher's chance. They took advantage of GB's many mistakes and came away with the win. I feel good about the NFC championship game. That doesn't mean that I can't be objective about what the niners did on Saturday and what they've done this season. There is a reason they they went 10-7 in the regular season.

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But the Niners also clearly had a puncher's chance in the regular season game in mild weather, which was higher scoring. So maybe they always had one regardless.

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I mean, the narrative about Jimmy G is pretty established. Kyle doesn't trust him to do that much and doesn't ask for much. On 3rd and 7 with the game on the line, he ran an inside draw with a WR. Jimmy's offense generated no TDs.

I'm a niner fan but just being honest about what happened and what this team is. I think the weather kept it low scoring and close and gave the niners a puncher's chance. They took advantage of GB's many mistakes and came away with the win. I feel good about the NFC championship game. That doesn't mean that I can't be objective about what the niners did on Saturday and what they've done this season. There is a reason they they went 10-7 in the regular season.

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But the Niners also clearly had a puncher's chance in the regular season game in mild weather, which was higher scoring. So maybe they always had one regardless.

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Yes, I think the matchup was decent for the niners. I would much rather play Green Bay than say KC or Buffalo. I don't know why any of this makes it hard to acknowledge that the weather and field conditions didn't help Green Bay on Saturday.

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I mean, the narrative about Jimmy G is pretty established. Kyle doesn't trust him to do that much and doesn't ask for much. On 3rd and 7 with the game on the line, he ran an inside draw with a WR. Jimmy's offense generated no TDs.

I'm a niner fan but just being honest about what happened and what this team is. I think the weather kept it low scoring and close and gave the niners a puncher's chance. They took advantage of GB's many mistakes and came away with the win. I feel good about the NFC championship game. That doesn't mean that I can't be objective about what the niners did on Saturday and what they've done this season. There is a reason they they went 10-7 in the regular season.

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But the Niners also clearly had a puncher's chance in the regular season game in mild weather, which was higher scoring. So maybe they always had one regardless.

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Yes, I think the matchup was decent for the niners. I would much rather play Green Bay than say KC or Buffalo. I don't know why any of this makes it hard to acknowledge that the weather and field conditions didn't help Green Bay on Saturday.

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I'm not sure it really helped either team. I know that going into the game people were predicting that "Jimmy G in cold weather" would be bad news and that's why you should favor the Packers. So it seems like weather effects are a thing people will contort to fit their narrative no matter what happens.

What really turned this game in favor of SF, IMO? It was the special teams mistakes by Green Bay. Basically a 10 point swing on two blocked kicks. Maybe the weather had something to do with that? Maybe, but Green Bay's special teams were terrible all season, no matter the weather. That looks more like the favored team's big weakness coming back to bite them in the playoffs, something that could have happened with or without snow.

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I mean, the narrative about Jimmy G is pretty established. Kyle doesn't trust him to do that much and doesn't ask for much. On 3rd and 7 with the game on the line, he ran an inside draw with a WR. Jimmy's offense generated no TDs.

I'm a niner fan but just being honest about what happened and what this team is. I think the weather kept it low scoring and close and gave the niners a puncher's chance. They took advantage of GB's many mistakes and came away with the win. I feel good about the NFC championship game. That doesn't mean that I can't be objective about what the niners did on Saturday and what they've done this season. There is a reason they they went 10-7 in the regular season.

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But the Niners also clearly had a puncher's chance in the regular season game in mild weather, which was higher scoring. So maybe they always had one regardless.

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Yes, I think the matchup was decent for the niners. I would much rather play Green Bay than say KC or Buffalo. I don't know why any of this makes it hard to acknowledge that the weather and field conditions didn't help Green Bay on Saturday.

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I'm not sure it really helped either team. I know that going into the game people were predicting that "Jimmy G in cold weather" would be bad news and that's why you should favor the Packers. So it seems like weather effects are a thing people will contort to fit their narrative no matter what happens.

What really turned this game in favor of SF, IMO? It was the special teams mistakes by Green Bay. Basically a 10 point swing on two blocked kicks. Maybe the weather had something to do with that? Maybe, but Green Bay's special teams were terrible all season, no matter the weather. That looks more like the favored team's big weakness coming back to bite them in the playoffs, something that could have happened with or without snow.

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Jimmy G in cold weather was bad news. If I told you Jimmy G would complete 11 passes with no TDs, 1 (horrible) INT, 4 sacks, less than 100 net passing yards and the offense wouldn't score any TDs, would you consider that to be good news? The niners had more drives with negative yardage than positive yardage and didn't have any net yards until the last drive of the first half. Green Bay dropped a few interceptions. It was a dreadful offensive performance by any measure. I do believe the field conditions and weather had an impact.

Green Bay special teams was worse news and the niners defense managed to hold up after getting shredded by Rodgers on the first drive.

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I mean, the narrative about Jimmy G is pretty established. Kyle doesn't trust him to do that much and doesn't ask for much. On 3rd and 7 with the game on the line, he ran an inside draw with a WR. Jimmy's offense generated no TDs.

I'm a niner fan but just being honest about what happened and what this team is. I think the weather kept it low scoring and close and gave the niners a puncher's chance. They took advantage of GB's many mistakes and came away with the win. I feel good about the NFC championship game. That doesn't mean that I can't be objective about what the niners did on Saturday and what they've done this season. There is a reason they they went 10-7 in the regular season.

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But the Niners also clearly had a puncher's chance in the regular season game in mild weather, which was higher scoring. So maybe they always had one regardless.

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Yes, I think the matchup was decent for the niners. I would much rather play Green Bay than say KC or Buffalo. I don't know why any of this makes it hard to acknowledge that the weather and field conditions didn't help Green Bay on Saturday.

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I'm not sure it really helped either team. I know that going into the game people were predicting that "Jimmy G in cold weather" would be bad news and that's why you should favor the Packers. So it seems like weather effects are a thing people will contort to fit their narrative no matter what happens.

What really turned this game in favor of SF, IMO? It was the special teams mistakes by Green Bay. Basically a 10 point swing on two blocked kicks. Maybe the weather had something to do with that? Maybe, but Green Bay's special teams were terrible all season, no matter the weather. That looks more like the favored team's big weakness coming back to bite them in the playoffs, something that could have happened with or without snow.

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Jimmy G in cold weather was bad news. If I told you Jimmy G would complete 11 passes with no TDs, 1 (horrible) INT, 4 sacks, less than 100 net passing yards and the offense wouldn't score any TDs, would you consider that to be good news? The niners had more drives with negative yardage than positive yardage and didn't have any net yards until the last drive of the first half. Green Bay dropped a few interceptions. It was a dreadful offensive performance by any measure. I do believe the field conditions and weather had an impact.

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Exactly my point. The weather had impact on BOTH offenses. Not clear it was worse for the Packers.

In the earlier matchup the 49ers scored 28.

Would this be the first time in NFL history that there were more visiting team fans at a conference championship game? Hehe, I'm lovin' it.

"Vivid Seats, a prominent secondary ticket marketplace, projects 65% of fans at SoFi on Sunday will be rooting for the 49ers, five percentage points above their projection for Jan. 9's Niners invasion."

https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/ticket-sales-for-Rams-game-favor-49ers-fans-16802999.php?IPID=SFGate-HP-CP-Spotlight