Bears vs Buffs Game Thread

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Nofado
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Anderson and Sturdivant seems to be despondent with the poor throws today. You could see it when the throws were errant as they returned to the huddle.
calumnus
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Strykur said:

Nofado said:

Here's the problem. If we don't fix this quickly, you're going to see some of these four star recruits that we are all talking about enter the portal and they will leave and all we will be left with is a crappy offensive line and nothing else.
The OL is porous but if we switch out literally just one position (OC), we could be fine going forward, or this whole thing could implode overnight.


Yes. Firing Musgrave immediately is the only Hail Mary that has a chance of salvaging anything from this season and keeping Ott on the roster next year.
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Nofado said:

I'm not arguing in the least the coaching is a major problem. I'll give you two words. Christopher Brooks. He leaves and he's playing on the top 20 teams and being very productive but why is that? Because they have a behemoth offensive line and they have a good offensive scheme two things that we lack seriously. I agree with you about Oregon state they have 24 office of lineman. We have 385 linebackers. There's a disproportionate amount of defensive players on this team we need to balance it out. It is a polar opposite of Sonny Dykes.

if you are a defensive, minded head, coach, you better be able to recruit. That's the bottom line have a dynamic offensive coordinator who can work to get the offensive players that you need. Pete Carroll, and Lane Kiffin come to mind.

Wilcox should be a DC that's his strength.


Is defense Wilcox's strength, or is it Sirmon? Is Wilcox bringing anything to this whole arrangement? What is he coordinating? Certainly not doing well with decision to keep musgrave. Certainly not motivating the team. Certainly not recruiting at a high level.
Nofado
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At this point going through 4 OC in a short period of time it is time to consider a HC change.
HoopDreams
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It was a freshman mistake. He thought hed just catch ot for easy TD

A veterywould have caught, protected and been anticipating the hit

DiabloWags said:

TheFiatLux said:


That's actually one of the worse efforts I've every seen by a Cal receiver. He just lazily watches the ball into his arms and doesn't seem to realize there are other people on the field who will be trying to knock it free. That is completely on Starling. A terribly lazy effort.

I think that part of this is on Plummer.
He took "forever" to find Starling and when he did he "floated" the ball.
The replay from side-view will tell you as much. Plummer found him late and never stepped into it.



sycasey
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HoopDreams said:

It was a freshman mistake. He thought hed just catch ot for easy TD

A veterywould have caught, protected and been anticipating the hit

DiabloWags said:

TheFiatLux said:


That's actually one of the worse efforts I've every seen by a Cal receiver. He just lazily watches the ball into his arms and doesn't seem to realize there are other people on the field who will be trying to knock it free. That is completely on Starling. A terribly lazy effort.

I think that part of this is on Plummer.
He took "forever" to find Starling and when he did he "floated" the ball.
The replay from side-view will tell you as much. Plummer found him late and never stepped into it.





I bet that in high school he could just casually catch the ball like that when there's no one near him. Not at this level, the defenders close much faster. He'll learn.
Strykur
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sycasey said:

HoopDreams said:

It was a freshman mistake. He thought hed just catch ot for easy TD

A veterywould have caught, protected and been anticipating the hit
DiabloWags said:

TheFiatLux said:

That's actually one of the worse efforts I've every seen by a Cal receiver. He just lazily watches the ball into his arms and doesn't seem to realize there are other people on the field who will be trying to knock it free. That is completely on Starling. A terribly lazy effort.
I think that part of this is on Plummer.
He took "forever" to find Starling and when he did he "floated" the ball.
The replay from side-view will tell you as much. Plummer found him late and never stepped into it.

I bet that in high school he could just casually catch the ball like that when there's no one near him. Not at this level, the defenders close much faster. He'll learn.
Imagine if he had been on the field against Notre Dame, even just as a downfield threat would have made a world of difference that afternoon.
Bobodeluxe
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Wonder where he'll play next year?
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FIRE MUSGRAVE NOW!

I think I'm Team Tennessee right now. One of the best places I've ever seen a game. Fantastic win over Nick Satan & the High paid Crimson Tide.
🐻 The Bear Will NOT Quit, The Bear Will NOT Die! 🐻
Big C
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calumnus said:

TheFiatLux said:

GoCal80 said:

Brutal (video and comments):


That's actually one of the worse efforts I've every seen by a Cal receiver. He just lazily watches the ball into his arms and doesn't seem to realize there are other people on the field who will be trying to knock it free. That is completely on Starling. A terribly lazy effort.


So why with the game on the line in OT on the road with a hostile crowd are we relying on a (walk-on? I haven't even seen his name mentioned until today) who had just made his first college catch earlier in the game?

Mason Starling is a fairly highly regarded scholarship player (JC transfer) who had been recovering from a nagging injury (sounded like groin or hamstring) suffered in fall camp. He looked great in the 4th Q (until he didn't secure that ball).

Tough luck for Latu today, too... twice.
DiabloWags
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calumnus said:

Nofado said:

3 star OL doesn't help


Jonathan Smith has built a good OL at OSU with 2 stars. He just brings in a lot of guys (24 on the roster) and they develop them and play the best.

Very true.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
Big C
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Nofado said:

He was floating the passes to Ott too

Whole lotta air under a whole lotta Plummer's passes today. By design of the play? Knee bothering his motion?

Typically, his passes have sailed on him, early in games this season.
Nofado
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Ott first quarter ND game. Sure TD
DiabloWags
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Big C said:

Nofado said:

He was floating the passes to Ott too

Whole lotta air under a whole lotta Plummer's passes today. By design of the play? Knee bothering his motion?

Typically, his passes have sailed on him, early in games this season.

Pawlawski mentioned this on the radio broadcast too.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
movielover
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1.6 yards per rush.

Great game for LB Sirmon.
sluggo
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Big C said:

Nofado said:

He was floating the passes to Ott too

Whole lotta air under a whole lotta Plummer's passes today. By design of the play? Knee bothering his motion?

Typically, his passes have sailed on him, early in games this season.
He is trying to throw into a tiny window on all the crap Musgrave sideline plays. Short passes over the middle are the key to modern football, and he is good at making them.
OdontoBear66
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sluggo said:

Big C said:

Nofado said:

He was floating the passes to Ott too

Whole lotta air under a whole lotta Plummer's passes today. By design of the play? Knee bothering his motion?

Typically, his passes have sailed on him, early in games this season.
He is trying to throw into a tiny window on all the crap Musgrave sideline plays. Short passes over the middle are the key to modern football, and he is good at making them.

Love it. Please can we throw over the middle
sycasey
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sluggo said:

Big C said:

Nofado said:

He was floating the passes to Ott too

Whole lotta air under a whole lotta Plummer's passes today. By design of the play? Knee bothering his motion?

Typically, his passes have sailed on him, early in games this season.
He is trying to throw into a tiny window on all the crap Musgrave sideline plays. Short passes over the middle are the key to modern football, and he is good at making them.
Passes will also tend to be lofted high if you're always throwing with a guy in your face.
sonofabear51
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Still waiting for Shocky to chime in. What say you, Shocky? Wha' happen here?
Start Slowly and taper off
calumnus
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Big C said:

calumnus said:

TheFiatLux said:

GoCal80 said:

Brutal (video and comments):


That's actually one of the worse efforts I've every seen by a Cal receiver. He just lazily watches the ball into his arms and doesn't seem to realize there are other people on the field who will be trying to knock it free. That is completely on Starling. A terribly lazy effort.


So why with the game on the line in OT on the road with a hostile crowd are we relying on a (walk-on? I haven't even seen his name mentioned until today) who had just made his first college catch earlier in the game?

Mason Starling is a fairly highly regarded scholarship player (JC transfer) who had been recovering from a nagging injury (sounded like groin or hamstring) suffered in fall camp. He looked great in the 4th Q (until he didn't secure that ball).

Tough luck for Latu today, too... twice.


Ok, yes, he had been playing well until then.
calumnus
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Nofado said:

Anderson and Sturdivant seems to be despondent with the poor throws today. You could see it when the throws were errant as they returned to the huddle.


Wilcox has been here 6 years, during that time our best QB is the guy that committed to Sonny in 2016. No one brought in has been better, and he was not very good. I think Plummer could be really good if he got good QB coaching and the OC called plays that gave him much easier throws.
 
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