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movielover
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calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

Big C said:

MrGPAC said:

Immediately bringing in consultants for OL and play calling would go a long way. Our OL looks extremely lost and I refuse to believe that is entirely on the athletes...something is missing in the coaching, and Greatwood is a known asset with familiarity with the program. As a stop gap measure mid season this is about as good as we could hope for to address OL issues... THIS YEAR.

For next year a bigger chance will be required, and I would hope JW has already started making calls / making a list of targets.

Play calling has to improve as well. I don't know if Greatwood would be asked to assist in that regard, or if another option is being pursued for that. Personally, I'd take whoever called the third quarter of the Arizona game, as there is no way that is the same person who called every game since, unless Musgrave has mutliple personalities and the competent one somehow only beat out the others for that one quarter.

But again...JW has to get working on his short list now for a new OC next year. My biggest ask is that it be a high energy motivator kind of coach. Wilcox has the calm stoic vibe going, we need something to balance it out and infuse energy into the team.

The most disappointing thing about all of this is it was obvious these changes were needed after WSU (if not sooner), and we had a full bye week to implement any changes, get kids coached up, get perspective / practice going under a new play caller...but we waited until after we had no choice to make the move. Its better late than never, but Wilcox has got to figure out how to step up the urgency.


This. I guess two weeks ago, Wilcox did not yet feel quite enough pressure to where he thought he had to make some sort of move. I love the way he chose a move within his comfort zone: Nobody gets fired; he brings in another of his old Oregon buddies.

Actually, the one thing I like about this move is that it's so incremental that it makes me feel like it was done more for the steak than the sizzle. I wasn't too big on doing something for optics-sake. First off, most people aren't paying attention and/or don't care. Second, it's only going to really appeal to people who fall for optics.

There isn't a whole lot they could do to make things better *this year*. Bringing in a coach that is not only familiar with the staff, but familiar with at least some of the personnel is about the best you could ask for for immediate improvement. Better coaches are already employed elsewhere and what we really needed was a technician to come in and coach our guys up...so this is about as good as we could have asked for for immediate improvement on the OL.

There is still more that could be done for the offensive coordinator position right now, and I hope that our play calling is at least being addressed behind the scenes.

The real litmus test will be what we do in the off season. If Wilcox can make a splashy hire, either with Cal connections (like Troy Taylor), or a well regarded coach (preferably in a more modern offense) that is a slam dunk, then there is some hope for him. If he reaches out to some old coaches for advice/help in the search that would be even better. That's a lot of if's though.


Three time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Tarik Glenn is already on the Cal staff in an admin position.


154 starts, 3 Pro Bowls.
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Big C said:

calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

Big C said:

MrGPAC said:

Immediately bringing in consultants for OL and play calling would go a long way. Our OL looks extremely lost and I refuse to believe that is entirely on the athletes...something is missing in the coaching, and Greatwood is a known asset with familiarity with the program. As a stop gap measure mid season this is about as good as we could hope for to address OL issues... THIS YEAR.

For next year a bigger chance will be required, and I would hope JW has already started making calls / making a list of targets.

Play calling has to improve as well. I don't know if Greatwood would be asked to assist in that regard, or if another option is being pursued for that. Personally, I'd take whoever called the third quarter of the Arizona game, as there is no way that is the same person who called every game since, unless Musgrave has mutliple personalities and the competent one somehow only beat out the others for that one quarter.

But again...JW has to get working on his short list now for a new OC next year. My biggest ask is that it be a high energy motivator kind of coach. Wilcox has the calm stoic vibe going, we need something to balance it out and infuse energy into the team.

The most disappointing thing about all of this is it was obvious these changes were needed after WSU (if not sooner), and we had a full bye week to implement any changes, get kids coached up, get perspective / practice going under a new play caller...but we waited until after we had no choice to make the move. Its better late than never, but Wilcox has got to figure out how to step up the urgency.


This. I guess two weeks ago, Wilcox did not yet feel quite enough pressure to where he thought he had to make some sort of move. I love the way he chose a move within his comfort zone: Nobody gets fired; he brings in another of his old Oregon buddies.

Actually, the one thing I like about this move is that it's so incremental that it makes me feel like it was done more for the steak than the sizzle. I wasn't too big on doing something for optics-sake. First off, most people aren't paying attention and/or don't care. Second, it's only going to really appeal to people who fall for optics.

There isn't a whole lot they could do to make things better *this year*. Bringing in a coach that is not only familiar with the staff, but familiar with at least some of the personnel is about the best you could ask for for immediate improvement. Better coaches are already employed elsewhere and what we really needed was a technician to come in and coach our guys up...so this is about as good as we could have asked for for immediate improvement on the OL.

There is still more that could be done for the offensive coordinator position right now, and I hope that our play calling is at least being addressed behind the scenes.

The real litmus test will be what we do in the off season. If Wilcox can make a splashy hire, either with Cal connections (like Troy Taylor), or a well regarded coach (preferably in a more modern offense) that is a slam dunk, then there is some hope for him. If he reaches out to some old coaches for advice/help in the search that would be even better. That's a lot of if's though.


Three time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Tarik Glenn is already on the Cal staff in an admin position.

Any evidence that Glenn wants to be a football coach? Quite honestly, the life of a college position coach has its challenges and a lot folks aren't interested in doing what it takes to succeed at that. We always fantasize about former Bears ("Oh, Russell White as our RB Coach!"), but it's a grind and the pay is good, sure, but far from great.
He's currently Bishop O'Dowd's OL coach (along with several other former Bears on that staff), so he is coaching football, now whether he wants to coach in college or would be an upgrade, is a different question, as you noted.
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sosheezy said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

Big C said:

MrGPAC said:

Immediately bringing in consultants for OL and play calling would go a long way. Our OL looks extremely lost and I refuse to believe that is entirely on the athletes...something is missing in the coaching, and Greatwood is a known asset with familiarity with the program. As a stop gap measure mid season this is about as good as we could hope for to address OL issues... THIS YEAR.

For next year a bigger chance will be required, and I would hope JW has already started making calls / making a list of targets.

Play calling has to improve as well. I don't know if Greatwood would be asked to assist in that regard, or if another option is being pursued for that. Personally, I'd take whoever called the third quarter of the Arizona game, as there is no way that is the same person who called every game since, unless Musgrave has mutliple personalities and the competent one somehow only beat out the others for that one quarter.

But again...JW has to get working on his short list now for a new OC next year. My biggest ask is that it be a high energy motivator kind of coach. Wilcox has the calm stoic vibe going, we need something to balance it out and infuse energy into the team.

The most disappointing thing about all of this is it was obvious these changes were needed after WSU (if not sooner), and we had a full bye week to implement any changes, get kids coached up, get perspective / practice going under a new play caller...but we waited until after we had no choice to make the move. Its better late than never, but Wilcox has got to figure out how to step up the urgency.


This. I guess two weeks ago, Wilcox did not yet feel quite enough pressure to where he thought he had to make some sort of move. I love the way he chose a move within his comfort zone: Nobody gets fired; he brings in another of his old Oregon buddies.

Actually, the one thing I like about this move is that it's so incremental that it makes me feel like it was done more for the steak than the sizzle. I wasn't too big on doing something for optics-sake. First off, most people aren't paying attention and/or don't care. Second, it's only going to really appeal to people who fall for optics.

There isn't a whole lot they could do to make things better *this year*. Bringing in a coach that is not only familiar with the staff, but familiar with at least some of the personnel is about the best you could ask for for immediate improvement. Better coaches are already employed elsewhere and what we really needed was a technician to come in and coach our guys up...so this is about as good as we could have asked for for immediate improvement on the OL.

There is still more that could be done for the offensive coordinator position right now, and I hope that our play calling is at least being addressed behind the scenes.

The real litmus test will be what we do in the off season. If Wilcox can make a splashy hire, either with Cal connections (like Troy Taylor), or a well regarded coach (preferably in a more modern offense) that is a slam dunk, then there is some hope for him. If he reaches out to some old coaches for advice/help in the search that would be even better. That's a lot of if's though.


Three time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Tarik Glenn is already on the Cal staff in an admin position.

Any evidence that Glenn wants to be a football coach? Quite honestly, the life of a college position coach has its challenges and a lot folks aren't interested in doing what it takes to succeed at that. We always fantasize about former Bears ("Oh, Russell White as our RB Coach!"), but it's a grind and the pay is good, sure, but far from great.
He's currently Bishop O'Dowd's OL coach (along with several other former Bears on that staff), so he is coaching football, now whether he wants to coach in college or would be an upgrade, is a different question, as you noted.


Yeah, he has two jobs, he is on the Cal staff full time running the Athletics Study Center and he is also the OL coach at O'Dowd. He got his MBA at Purdue while playing professional football (at a Pro Bowl level) for the Colts.
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I thought Derek Van Rheenan runs the Athletic Study Center?
Oski87
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calumnus said:

sosheezy said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

Big C said:

MrGPAC said:

Immediately bringing in consultants for OL and play calling would go a long way. Our OL looks extremely lost and I refuse to believe that is entirely on the athletes...something is missing in the coaching, and Greatwood is a known asset with familiarity with the program. As a stop gap measure mid season this is about as good as we could hope for to address OL issues... THIS YEAR.

For next year a bigger chance will be required, and I would hope JW has already started making calls / making a list of targets.

Play calling has to improve as well. I don't know if Greatwood would be asked to assist in that regard, or if another option is being pursued for that. Personally, I'd take whoever called the third quarter of the Arizona game, as there is no way that is the same person who called every game since, unless Musgrave has mutliple personalities and the competent one somehow only beat out the others for that one quarter.

But again...JW has to get working on his short list now for a new OC next year. My biggest ask is that it be a high energy motivator kind of coach. Wilcox has the calm stoic vibe going, we need something to balance it out and infuse energy into the team.

The most disappointing thing about all of this is it was obvious these changes were needed after WSU (if not sooner), and we had a full bye week to implement any changes, get kids coached up, get perspective / practice going under a new play caller...but we waited until after we had no choice to make the move. Its better late than never, but Wilcox has got to figure out how to step up the urgency.


This. I guess two weeks ago, Wilcox did not yet feel quite enough pressure to where he thought he had to make some sort of move. I love the way he chose a move within his comfort zone: Nobody gets fired; he brings in another of his old Oregon buddies.

Actually, the one thing I like about this move is that it's so incremental that it makes me feel like it was done more for the steak than the sizzle. I wasn't too big on doing something for optics-sake. First off, most people aren't paying attention and/or don't care. Second, it's only going to really appeal to people who fall for optics.

There isn't a whole lot they could do to make things better *this year*. Bringing in a coach that is not only familiar with the staff, but familiar with at least some of the personnel is about the best you could ask for for immediate improvement. Better coaches are already employed elsewhere and what we really needed was a technician to come in and coach our guys up...so this is about as good as we could have asked for for immediate improvement on the OL.

There is still more that could be done for the offensive coordinator position right now, and I hope that our play calling is at least being addressed behind the scenes.

The real litmus test will be what we do in the off season. If Wilcox can make a splashy hire, either with Cal connections (like Troy Taylor), or a well regarded coach (preferably in a more modern offense) that is a slam dunk, then there is some hope for him. If he reaches out to some old coaches for advice/help in the search that would be even better. That's a lot of if's though.


Three time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Tarik Glenn is already on the Cal staff in an admin position.

Any evidence that Glenn wants to be a football coach? Quite honestly, the life of a college position coach has its challenges and a lot folks aren't interested in doing what it takes to succeed at that. We always fantasize about former Bears ("Oh, Russell White as our RB Coach!"), but it's a grind and the pay is good, sure, but far from great.
He's currently Bishop O'Dowd's OL coach (along with several other former Bears on that staff), so he is coaching football, now whether he wants to coach in college or would be an upgrade, is a different question, as you noted.


Yeah, he has two jobs, he is on the Cal staff full time running the Athletics Study Center and he is also the OL coach at O'Dowd. He got his MBA at Purdue while playing professional football (at a Pro Bowl level) for the Colts.
O"Dowd has the following former Cal coaches on staff:

Hardy Sr - Head Coach
Hardy Jr - LB Coach
Majette Whiteside - DL coach
Tarik Glenn - OL coach
Javid Best - RB coach
Sean Bullard - TE coach (son on team)
Na'il Benjamin - offensive assistant
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pingpong2 said:

I'm completetly serious when I say that we need to be rooting to go winless the rest of the way. It sucks, it's messy, and it's horrible for the players, but we need to excise this cancer. Winning a couple of games the rest of the way will just mean more of the same for years to come. It's painfully clear that the AD is fine with mediocrity, so the only way to force the issue is to not even be mediocre.

Anything less and we're dooming all future players to more of this clownshow of a program.


Is it 2022 again?
calumnus
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Oski87 said:

calumnus said:

sosheezy said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

Big C said:

MrGPAC said:

Immediately bringing in consultants for OL and play calling would go a long way. Our OL looks extremely lost and I refuse to believe that is entirely on the athletes...something is missing in the coaching, and Greatwood is a known asset with familiarity with the program. As a stop gap measure mid season this is about as good as we could hope for to address OL issues... THIS YEAR.

For next year a bigger chance will be required, and I would hope JW has already started making calls / making a list of targets.

Play calling has to improve as well. I don't know if Greatwood would be asked to assist in that regard, or if another option is being pursued for that. Personally, I'd take whoever called the third quarter of the Arizona game, as there is no way that is the same person who called every game since, unless Musgrave has mutliple personalities and the competent one somehow only beat out the others for that one quarter.

But again...JW has to get working on his short list now for a new OC next year. My biggest ask is that it be a high energy motivator kind of coach. Wilcox has the calm stoic vibe going, we need something to balance it out and infuse energy into the team.

The most disappointing thing about all of this is it was obvious these changes were needed after WSU (if not sooner), and we had a full bye week to implement any changes, get kids coached up, get perspective / practice going under a new play caller...but we waited until after we had no choice to make the move. Its better late than never, but Wilcox has got to figure out how to step up the urgency.


This. I guess two weeks ago, Wilcox did not yet feel quite enough pressure to where he thought he had to make some sort of move. I love the way he chose a move within his comfort zone: Nobody gets fired; he brings in another of his old Oregon buddies.

Actually, the one thing I like about this move is that it's so incremental that it makes me feel like it was done more for the steak than the sizzle. I wasn't too big on doing something for optics-sake. First off, most people aren't paying attention and/or don't care. Second, it's only going to really appeal to people who fall for optics.

There isn't a whole lot they could do to make things better *this year*. Bringing in a coach that is not only familiar with the staff, but familiar with at least some of the personnel is about the best you could ask for for immediate improvement. Better coaches are already employed elsewhere and what we really needed was a technician to come in and coach our guys up...so this is about as good as we could have asked for for immediate improvement on the OL.

There is still more that could be done for the offensive coordinator position right now, and I hope that our play calling is at least being addressed behind the scenes.

The real litmus test will be what we do in the off season. If Wilcox can make a splashy hire, either with Cal connections (like Troy Taylor), or a well regarded coach (preferably in a more modern offense) that is a slam dunk, then there is some hope for him. If he reaches out to some old coaches for advice/help in the search that would be even better. That's a lot of if's though.


Three time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Tarik Glenn is already on the Cal staff in an admin position.

Any evidence that Glenn wants to be a football coach? Quite honestly, the life of a college position coach has its challenges and a lot folks aren't interested in doing what it takes to succeed at that. We always fantasize about former Bears ("Oh, Russell White as our RB Coach!"), but it's a grind and the pay is good, sure, but far from great.
He's currently Bishop O'Dowd's OL coach (along with several other former Bears on that staff), so he is coaching football, now whether he wants to coach in college or would be an upgrade, is a different question, as you noted.


Yeah, he has two jobs, he is on the Cal staff full time running the Athletics Study Center and he is also the OL coach at O'Dowd. He got his MBA at Purdue while playing professional football (at a Pro Bowl level) for the Colts.
O"Dowd has the following former Cal coaches on staff:

Hardy Sr - Head Coach
Hardy Jr - LB Coach
Majette Whiteside - DL coach
Tarik Glenn - OL coach
Javid Best - RB coach
Sean Bullard - TE coach (son on team)
Na'il Benjamin - offensive assistant


Some good candidates for HC Ron Rivera to consider.
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calumnus said:

Oski87 said:

calumnus said:

sosheezy said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

Big C said:

MrGPAC said:

Immediately bringing in consultants for OL and play calling would go a long way. Our OL looks extremely lost and I refuse to believe that is entirely on the athletes...something is missing in the coaching, and Greatwood is a known asset with familiarity with the program. As a stop gap measure mid season this is about as good as we could hope for to address OL issues... THIS YEAR.

For next year a bigger chance will be required, and I would hope JW has already started making calls / making a list of targets.

Play calling has to improve as well. I don't know if Greatwood would be asked to assist in that regard, or if another option is being pursued for that. Personally, I'd take whoever called the third quarter of the Arizona game, as there is no way that is the same person who called every game since, unless Musgrave has mutliple personalities and the competent one somehow only beat out the others for that one quarter.

But again...JW has to get working on his short list now for a new OC next year. My biggest ask is that it be a high energy motivator kind of coach. Wilcox has the calm stoic vibe going, we need something to balance it out and infuse energy into the team.

The most disappointing thing about all of this is it was obvious these changes were needed after WSU (if not sooner), and we had a full bye week to implement any changes, get kids coached up, get perspective / practice going under a new play caller...but we waited until after we had no choice to make the move. Its better late than never, but Wilcox has got to figure out how to step up the urgency.


This. I guess two weeks ago, Wilcox did not yet feel quite enough pressure to where he thought he had to make some sort of move. I love the way he chose a move within his comfort zone: Nobody gets fired; he brings in another of his old Oregon buddies.

Actually, the one thing I like about this move is that it's so incremental that it makes me feel like it was done more for the steak than the sizzle. I wasn't too big on doing something for optics-sake. First off, most people aren't paying attention and/or don't care. Second, it's only going to really appeal to people who fall for optics.

There isn't a whole lot they could do to make things better *this year*. Bringing in a coach that is not only familiar with the staff, but familiar with at least some of the personnel is about the best you could ask for for immediate improvement. Better coaches are already employed elsewhere and what we really needed was a technician to come in and coach our guys up...so this is about as good as we could have asked for for immediate improvement on the OL.

There is still more that could be done for the offensive coordinator position right now, and I hope that our play calling is at least being addressed behind the scenes.

The real litmus test will be what we do in the off season. If Wilcox can make a splashy hire, either with Cal connections (like Troy Taylor), or a well regarded coach (preferably in a more modern offense) that is a slam dunk, then there is some hope for him. If he reaches out to some old coaches for advice/help in the search that would be even better. That's a lot of if's though.


Three time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Tarik Glenn is already on the Cal staff in an admin position.

Any evidence that Glenn wants to be a football coach? Quite honestly, the life of a college position coach has its challenges and a lot folks aren't interested in doing what it takes to succeed at that. We always fantasize about former Bears ("Oh, Russell White as our RB Coach!"), but it's a grind and the pay is good, sure, but far from great.
He's currently Bishop O'Dowd's OL coach (along with several other former Bears on that staff), so he is coaching football, now whether he wants to coach in college or would be an upgrade, is a different question, as you noted.


Yeah, he has two jobs, he is on the Cal staff full time running the Athletics Study Center and he is also the OL coach at O'Dowd. He got his MBA at Purdue while playing professional football (at a Pro Bowl level) for the Colts.
O"Dowd has the following former Cal coaches on staff:

Hardy Sr - Head Coach
Hardy Jr - LB Coach
Majette Whiteside - DL coach
Tarik Glenn - OL coach
Javid Best - RB coach
Sean Bullard - TE coach (son on team)
Na'il Benjamin - offensive assistant


Some good candidates for HC Ron Rivera to consider.


I'm hoping the silence from Lyons means he has a plan in place to quickly install Rivera as HC after Wilcox is let go the day after the season ends. Rivera is the only person on earth who can inspire the fan base and donors like no other, have the ability to coach at the highest level of the sport, AND has a genuine passion for Cal.

Either that or go dirt cheap on an up and comer who's ready to prove his worth.
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93Bear said:

calumnus said:

Oski87 said:

calumnus said:

sosheezy said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

Big C said:

MrGPAC said:

Immediately bringing in consultants for OL and play calling would go a long way. Our OL looks extremely lost and I refuse to believe that is entirely on the athletes...something is missing in the coaching, and Greatwood is a known asset with familiarity with the program. As a stop gap measure mid season this is about as good as we could hope for to address OL issues... THIS YEAR.

For next year a bigger chance will be required, and I would hope JW has already started making calls / making a list of targets.

Play calling has to improve as well. I don't know if Greatwood would be asked to assist in that regard, or if another option is being pursued for that. Personally, I'd take whoever called the third quarter of the Arizona game, as there is no way that is the same person who called every game since, unless Musgrave has mutliple personalities and the competent one somehow only beat out the others for that one quarter.

But again...JW has to get working on his short list now for a new OC next year. My biggest ask is that it be a high energy motivator kind of coach. Wilcox has the calm stoic vibe going, we need something to balance it out and infuse energy into the team.

The most disappointing thing about all of this is it was obvious these changes were needed after WSU (if not sooner), and we had a full bye week to implement any changes, get kids coached up, get perspective / practice going under a new play caller...but we waited until after we had no choice to make the move. Its better late than never, but Wilcox has got to figure out how to step up the urgency.


This. I guess two weeks ago, Wilcox did not yet feel quite enough pressure to where he thought he had to make some sort of move. I love the way he chose a move within his comfort zone: Nobody gets fired; he brings in another of his old Oregon buddies.

Actually, the one thing I like about this move is that it's so incremental that it makes me feel like it was done more for the steak than the sizzle. I wasn't too big on doing something for optics-sake. First off, most people aren't paying attention and/or don't care. Second, it's only going to really appeal to people who fall for optics.

There isn't a whole lot they could do to make things better *this year*. Bringing in a coach that is not only familiar with the staff, but familiar with at least some of the personnel is about the best you could ask for for immediate improvement. Better coaches are already employed elsewhere and what we really needed was a technician to come in and coach our guys up...so this is about as good as we could have asked for for immediate improvement on the OL.

There is still more that could be done for the offensive coordinator position right now, and I hope that our play calling is at least being addressed behind the scenes.

The real litmus test will be what we do in the off season. If Wilcox can make a splashy hire, either with Cal connections (like Troy Taylor), or a well regarded coach (preferably in a more modern offense) that is a slam dunk, then there is some hope for him. If he reaches out to some old coaches for advice/help in the search that would be even better. That's a lot of if's though.


Three time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Tarik Glenn is already on the Cal staff in an admin position.

Any evidence that Glenn wants to be a football coach? Quite honestly, the life of a college position coach has its challenges and a lot folks aren't interested in doing what it takes to succeed at that. We always fantasize about former Bears ("Oh, Russell White as our RB Coach!"), but it's a grind and the pay is good, sure, but far from great.
He's currently Bishop O'Dowd's OL coach (along with several other former Bears on that staff), so he is coaching football, now whether he wants to coach in college or would be an upgrade, is a different question, as you noted.


Yeah, he has two jobs, he is on the Cal staff full time running the Athletics Study Center and he is also the OL coach at O'Dowd. He got his MBA at Purdue while playing professional football (at a Pro Bowl level) for the Colts.
O"Dowd has the following former Cal coaches on staff:

Hardy Sr - Head Coach
Hardy Jr - LB Coach
Majette Whiteside - DL coach
Tarik Glenn - OL coach
Javid Best - RB coach
Sean Bullard - TE coach (son on team)
Na'il Benjamin - offensive assistant


Some good candidates for HC Ron Rivera to consider.


I'm hoping the silence from Lyons means he has a plan in place to quickly install Rivera as HC after Wilcox is let go the day after the season ends. Rivera is the only person on earth who can inspire the fan base and donors like no other, have the ability to coach at the highest level of the sport, AND has a genuine passion for Cal.

Either that or go dirt cheap on an up and comer who's ready to prove his worth.


With all due respect ... After going through the fiasco with the demise of the PAC-12, silence from the Cal admin should be taken for what it is ... They aren't doing jack squat.
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calumnus said:

Oski87 said:

calumnus said:

sosheezy said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

Big C said:

MrGPAC said:

Immediately bringing in consultants for OL and play calling would go a long way. Our OL looks extremely lost and I refuse to believe that is entirely on the athletes...something is missing in the coaching, and Greatwood is a known asset with familiarity with the program. As a stop gap measure mid season this is about as good as we could hope for to address OL issues... THIS YEAR.

For next year a bigger chance will be required, and I would hope JW has already started making calls / making a list of targets.

Play calling has to improve as well. I don't know if Greatwood would be asked to assist in that regard, or if another option is being pursued for that. Personally, I'd take whoever called the third quarter of the Arizona game, as there is no way that is the same person who called every game since, unless Musgrave has mutliple personalities and the competent one somehow only beat out the others for that one quarter.

But again...JW has to get working on his short list now for a new OC next year. My biggest ask is that it be a high energy motivator kind of coach. Wilcox has the calm stoic vibe going, we need something to balance it out and infuse energy into the team.

The most disappointing thing about all of this is it was obvious these changes were needed after WSU (if not sooner), and we had a full bye week to implement any changes, get kids coached up, get perspective / practice going under a new play caller...but we waited until after we had no choice to make the move. Its better late than never, but Wilcox has got to figure out how to step up the urgency.


This. I guess two weeks ago, Wilcox did not yet feel quite enough pressure to where he thought he had to make some sort of move. I love the way he chose a move within his comfort zone: Nobody gets fired; he brings in another of his old Oregon buddies.

Actually, the one thing I like about this move is that it's so incremental that it makes me feel like it was done more for the steak than the sizzle. I wasn't too big on doing something for optics-sake. First off, most people aren't paying attention and/or don't care. Second, it's only going to really appeal to people who fall for optics.

There isn't a whole lot they could do to make things better *this year*. Bringing in a coach that is not only familiar with the staff, but familiar with at least some of the personnel is about the best you could ask for for immediate improvement. Better coaches are already employed elsewhere and what we really needed was a technician to come in and coach our guys up...so this is about as good as we could have asked for for immediate improvement on the OL.

There is still more that could be done for the offensive coordinator position right now, and I hope that our play calling is at least being addressed behind the scenes.

The real litmus test will be what we do in the off season. If Wilcox can make a splashy hire, either with Cal connections (like Troy Taylor), or a well regarded coach (preferably in a more modern offense) that is a slam dunk, then there is some hope for him. If he reaches out to some old coaches for advice/help in the search that would be even better. That's a lot of if's though.


Three time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Tarik Glenn is already on the Cal staff in an admin position.

Any evidence that Glenn wants to be a football coach? Quite honestly, the life of a college position coach has its challenges and a lot folks aren't interested in doing what it takes to succeed at that. We always fantasize about former Bears ("Oh, Russell White as our RB Coach!"), but it's a grind and the pay is good, sure, but far from great.
He's currently Bishop O'Dowd's OL coach (along with several other former Bears on that staff), so he is coaching football, now whether he wants to coach in college or would be an upgrade, is a different question, as you noted.


Yeah, he has two jobs, he is on the Cal staff full time running the Athletics Study Center and he is also the OL coach at O'Dowd. He got his MBA at Purdue while playing professional football (at a Pro Bowl level) for the Colts.
O"Dowd has the following former Cal coaches on staff:

Hardy Sr - Head Coach
Hardy Jr - LB Coach
Majette Whiteside - DL coach
Tarik Glenn - OL coach
Javid Best - RB coach
Sean Bullard - TE coach (son on team)
Na'il Benjamin - offensive assistant


Some good candidates for HC Ron Rivera to consider.


That staff lost a game this year 55-0 and is only the 179th best team in the state.
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BadNewsBear1 said:

tequila4kapp said:

This administration doesn't listen to letters. They are extremely willing to accept mediocrity. The ONLY tool we have is our pocket books. And even then maybe that is not enough, maybe it is the big donors who have to speak wisdom. I hate the idea of not supporting the players but I kinda hate the idea of enabling this administration even more. I know we all know it but this is year 6. It isn't like we are collectively some group with crazy wild expectations. Profound patience has been demonstrated.
The fact that all the biggest donors didn't shake Knowlton to his senses before extending Wilcox (and threaten to withhold any further financial support) for that money/years/buyout amount is a large part of the problem. That's how it works at real programs.


Wilcox's extension for "turning down Oregon twice" was celebrated by all the insiders here. Only a few of us thought it was insanely stupid.
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calumnus said:

BadNewsBear1 said:

tequila4kapp said:

This administration doesn't listen to letters. They are extremely willing to accept mediocrity. The ONLY tool we have is our pocket books. And even then maybe that is not enough, maybe it is the big donors who have to speak wisdom. I hate the idea of not supporting the players but I kinda hate the idea of enabling this administration even more. I know we all know it but this is year 6. It isn't like we are collectively some group with crazy wild expectations. Profound patience has been demonstrated.
The fact that all the biggest donors didn't shake Knowlton to his senses before extending Wilcox (and threaten to withhold any further financial support) for that money/years/buyout amount is a large part of the problem. That's how it works at real programs.


Wilcox's extension for "turning down Oregon twice" was celebrated by all the insiders here. Only a few of us thought it was insanely stupid.


I don't know anybody who celebrated the extension here that knew it was fully guaranteed. Other than the insane buyout provision, the extension seemed fine at the time.
 
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