panda said:
JSC 76 said:
panda said:
Respect the guy for his spirit and his donation to the school. But he's def a weird fella of an older generation. Let the students do their thing instead of trying to be in the spotlight.
Been waiting for a long time for the students to decide what their thing actually is. Apparently it doesn't involve organized cheers, showing up on time, staying to the end, or card stunts.
That's funny. I heard the student section was the only loud section at the UW game in comparison to the rest of memorial which looked empty on TV.
Every year old alums complain about student sections without looking around at other sections of Memorial and seeing how empty and dead everywhere else is. Is the student section perfect? No. But that's on the new generation of students to figure out on their own and not some old guy who had his glory days long before the new students were even born. If Ken wants to relive his glory days as a Mic Man, maybe he can convince the AD and alums to allow him to lead chants for non-student section fans. However i guarantee you it won't be as "lit" as during his glory days.
Want the student section to be louder? Maybe dont give an extension to an average at best coach with a boring style of play. Let's fix that first.
I don't want this to turn into an alum v student thing, but cmon. Congrats, the students were the loudest section at the UW game. Do you want a cookie?
The student section has always been the loudest section in the stadium for the last 100 or so years. That's your job! That was my job when I was a student. You act like we weren't all students at one time. It's the students job to be loud and it's our (the alums) job to pay the godamn bills. Do you know how lucky you are to be sitting on the 50 yard line paying student prices?
As far as Ken goes, i know it's hard for you students to understand this because you've only seen crappy mic men, but good mic men were almost as valuable to winning games as players
And of all the mic men I've seen in my 40 years of going to games, Ken has the highest WAR of all of them. I can think of at least two games in which he was a gigantic factor in us winning. I know this is hard to believe, but when Ken was micman, we had the best student section in the country. Period. It's not even up for debate. But because you didn't see it, it's hard for you to understand how much an influence good mic men had on the game.
So you have to understand the alums point of view on all of this. We are seeing our traditions crumbling before our eyes. Our traditions, our cheers, our band, used to be a huge sense of pride for all of us. Even during our darkest seasons, we had these things to look forward to and take pride in. But now we're afraid that our traditions which have lasted for decades are going to disappear.
If standards were being met, if our traditions were being continued or even if new traditions were being made, I wouldn't care as much if the younger generation of mic men said "thanks but no thanks" to Ken.
But, I'm sorry to be so harsh, but the mic men from the last 5-10 years or so have been failing. There is no justifiable reason to shut Ken out. I promise you, if Ken had been allowed to mentor the younger kids, the mic men would be better than they are today. There is zero doubt in my mind. So from my perspective, the younger mic men are being plain selfish. They could improve. They could have a greater impact on games and help us win more. But because of, I don't know, stubbornness, all of that institutional knowledge that Ken has is going to be lost forever. So Congrats!! You guys will be known as the generation that lost our traditions forever. Thanks
