So many challenges, but this would create a West Coast carve-out for ESPN and open up more 7:30 PT windows - on Fri and Sat nights - in addition to what's available thru B12 with Corner schools/BYU. https://t.co/B4YImWzjlR
— Jon Wilner (@wilnerhotline) August 7, 2023
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so a flight to Boise is cheaper than flights to Boston? To Florida? Not really. Oh let's take a bus to Fresno? Corvallis? Great recruiting tool. Let's get over the travel and make sure this team survives in a conference we can compete in many levels. Oooh, and there is this thing called zoom and electronic communication. Get over the travel (exception: Olympic sports should be quasi-regionalโฆ$philly1121 said:Big C said:
Can you imagine, before all this bs started, if someone had told you that Cal and Stanfurd would be joining the Atlantic Coast Conference? You'd have laughed and asked them if they had ever looked at a map or knew even the first thing about geography.
We live in a crazy world now.
Wait a minute, now we're all ok with East Coast travel and winters? Nah, its no big deal anymore, right? Flights are cheap and it doesn't start snowing in MA or PA till January anyway. lol
Priest of the Patty Hearst Shrine
Cal-Furd to ACC? Re-cast Directors Cup top 25:
SEC = 10 teams (with Texas/Oklahoma there)
ACC = 8 (with Cal/Stanford)
Big 10 = 5 teams (with USC, UCLA, UW...Oregon, finished 38th)
Big 12 = 1
ACC is clearly best option. (FYI - Mtn West best is #66, Air Force). While the "other sports" aren't important to some, they are part of the equation.
SEC = 10 teams (with Texas/Oklahoma there)
ACC = 8 (with Cal/Stanford)
Big 10 = 5 teams (with USC, UCLA, UW...Oregon, finished 38th)
Big 12 = 1
ACC is clearly best option. (FYI - Mtn West best is #66, Air Force). While the "other sports" aren't important to some, they are part of the equation.
If this does happen, and I say 'if' because I thought we were going to the B1G and I'm a little bitter and damaged right now. It seems the late night window for major college football is going to have a lot of competition in a few years.
You'll have the B1G with USC, Ucla, wash and oregon, the Big XII with the 4 corner schools, and the ACC with Cal and Stanford.
You'll have the B1G with USC, Ucla, wash and oregon, the Big XII with the 4 corner schools, and the ACC with Cal and Stanford.
BearHunter said:So many challenges, but this would create a West Coast carve-out for ESPN and open up more 7:30 PT windows - on Fri and Sat nights - in addition to what's available thru B12 with Corner schools/BYU. https://t.co/B4YImWzjlR
— Jon Wilner (@wilnerhotline) August 7, 2023
And I see Wilner beat me to that point.
ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
He does this for a living, though.golden sloth said:
And I see Wilner beat me to that point.
BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
haha! I love the mental hoops everyone is going through to make this true and the travel issue a non-issue. First we're all about the athletes welfare. Academics come first! Then we judge SC and UCLA on how they're treating their athletes. And now, lo and behold, we are all about that east coast thing. Suspension of disbelief indeed.cal83dls79 said:so a flight to Boise is cheaper than flights to Boston? To Florida? Not really. Oh let's take a bus to Fresno? Corvallis? Great recruiting tool. Let's get over the travel and make sure this team survives in a conference we can compete in many levels. Oooh, and there is this thing called zoom and electronic communication. Get over the travel (exception: Olympic sports should be quasi-regionalโฆ$philly1121 said:Big C said:
Can you imagine, before all this bs started, if someone had told you that Cal and Stanfurd would be joining the Atlantic Coast Conference? You'd have laughed and asked them if they had ever looked at a map or knew even the first thing about geography.
We live in a crazy world now.
Wait a minute, now we're all ok with East Coast travel and winters? Nah, its no big deal anymore, right? Flights are cheap and it doesn't start snowing in MA or PA till January anyway. lol
Honestly, I doubt this happens but I suppose there is probably some discussions going on. But I look at it through the lens of ACC chaos. If they are entertaining taking us, then there has to be 1-2 schools that are looking for a way out. FSU, UVA or UNC more than likely.
Econ141 said:BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
If the B1G offers, we accept, it's that simple. Nonetheless, we also need options, and the ACC is a better option than the MW. The ACC option might allow for a slightly better bargaining position with the B1G.
The college football world is still a post-apocalyptic race to the survival shuttles of either the Big Ten or SEC.
Still don't know how realistic it is with the travel, reduced share of the media deal, and the ACC power players still unhappy with their GOR and pay scale as it is but this guys been right about multiple expansion news so far
ACC/PAC4 first then. Stanford and Cal going to the ACC as a pair is a very real possibility now. FSU and Clemson are not happy about it. The monetary gain would be small and the travel would be a nightmare.
— MHver3 (@MHver3) August 7, 2023
philly1121 said:haha! I love the mental hoops everyone is going through to make this true and the travel issue a non-issue. First we're all about the athletes welfare. Academics come first! Then we judge SC and UCLA on how they're treating their athletes. And now, lo and behold, we are all about that east coast thing. Suspension of disbelief indeed.cal83dls79 said:so a flight to Boise is cheaper than flights to Boston? To Florida? Not really. Oh let's take a bus to Fresno? Corvallis? Great recruiting tool. Let's get over the travel and make sure this team survives in a conference we can compete in many levels. Oooh, and there is this thing called zoom and electronic communication. Get over the travel (exception: Olympic sports should be quasi-regionalโฆ$philly1121 said:Big C said:
Can you imagine, before all this bs started, if someone had told you that Cal and Stanfurd would be joining the Atlantic Coast Conference? You'd have laughed and asked them if they had ever looked at a map or knew even the first thing about geography.
We live in a crazy world now.
Wait a minute, now we're all ok with East Coast travel and winters? Nah, its no big deal anymore, right? Flights are cheap and it doesn't start snowing in MA or PA till January anyway. lol
Honestly, I doubt this happens but I suppose there is probably some discussions going on. But I look at it through the lens of ACC chaos. If they are entertaining taking us, then there has to be 1-2 schools that are looking for a way out. FSU, UVA or UNC more than likely.
Honestly, it wouldnt surprise me if a separate conference structure arises for just football and basketball. It's in everyone's interest to regionalize the non-revenue sports.
Econ141 said:BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
Right now joining B1G would be for all sports. My guess is ACC will take us as football only, but with a lot of OOC basketball and other sports matchups thrown in. That would allow us to join the Big West for all other sports. Better than joining the MWC or B-12.
Mini 'tournaments' in the middle of the country somewhere?
Bearly Clad said:
Still don't know how realistic it is with the travel, reduced share of the media deal, and the ACC power players still unhappy with their GOR and pay scale as it is but this guys been right about multiple expansion news so farACC/PAC4 first then. Stanford and Cal going to the ACC as a pair is a very real possibility now. FSU and Clemson are not happy about it. The monetary gain would be small and the travel would be a nightmare.
— MHver3 (@MHver3) August 7, 2023
Regarding FSU and Clemson: I think they WANT to be unhappy with anything the ACC does. They want to leave and want to do whatever they can to sow mistrust and resentment.
Oh yeah! Especially UNC's legendary African American Studies program where students got grades/credit and didn't do any work at all . But the NCAA didn't slam them because this "benefit" was extended to non-athletes as well as athletes. So, in some ways, UNC = USC! Academic my @ss . . .HateRed said:
Wow! Just read that. That would be fantastic!! Talk about an academic conference! CAL, Stanford, Duke, UNC and Virginia!!!!
Econ141 said:BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
"If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns...".
All of your conclusions are based on an unproven statement in the second sentence, which you and Calalumnus have stated and implied over and over again the past week or so. Therefore, it certainly can make sense. Also, even if your premise is true, we may be able to go ACC for football and basketball only and, despite SactownDog being butthurt over Fresno State not offering wine doctorates (they apparently offer whine doctorates), may go to the Big West for other sports.
Bearly Clad said:
Still don't know how realistic it is with the travel, reduced share of the media deal, and the ACC power players still unhappy with their GOR and pay scale as it is but this guys been right about multiple expansion news so farACC/PAC4 first then. Stanford and Cal going to the ACC as a pair is a very real possibility now. FSU and Clemson are not happy about it. The monetary gain would be small and the travel would be a nightmare.
— MHver3 (@MHver3) August 7, 2023
Pac-4 initially allows us to split up the $420 million left on the table (?) and compete to be one of the top 6 "conference champs" in the CFP.
Joining the ACC (football only) let's ESPN get more money to FSU and Clemson and have more evening product. I think 3:30 games at Menorial are great. 7:30, not so much but beggars can't be choosers.
Basketball could be great but presents logistical problems. We would need to eliminate Thursday night games. Maybe go Friday night/Saturday night and Saturday afternoon/Sunday afternoon?
This is great news. It also gives us leverage with the B1G.
philly1121 said:Big C said:
Can you imagine, before all this bs started, if someone had told you that Cal and Stanfurd would be joining the Atlantic Coast Conference? You'd have laughed and asked them if they had ever looked at a map or knew even the first thing about geography.
We live in a crazy world now.
Wait a minute, now we're all ok with East Coast travel and winters? Nah, its no big deal anymore, right? Flights are cheap and it doesn't start snowing in MA or PA till January anyway. lol
Up until, what, 15 mos. ago, we were talking about limiting night home games. You know, for the "fan experience". Now, if the B1G wanted to have a "Midnight Madness" game, East Coast time, we would schedule every one of our games for 9 PM, in exchange for an invite. And we'd be smiling and thanking them.
Completely agree. Realignment happens. We're already hearing the whining about how Rutgers and Maryland contribute nothing and are takers. Expect a breakaway from the NCAA and a separate football league for the power teams.
philly1121 said:
Completely agree. Realignment happens. We're already hearing the whining about how Rutgers and Maryland contribute nothing and are takers. Expect a breakaway from the NCAA and a separate football league for the power teams.
Rutgers and Maryland are still losing money after joining the BIG
oski003 said:Econ141 said:BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
"If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns...".
All of your conclusions are based on an unproven statement in the second sentence, which you and Calalumnus have stated and implied over and over again the past week or so. Therefore, it certainly can make sense. Also, even if your premise is true, we may be able to go ACC for football and basketball only and, despite SactownDog being butthurt over Fresno State not offering wine doctorates (they apparently offer whine doctorates), may go to the Big West for other sports.
"If" is a conditional. Christ herself said travel is a huge concern. The rumor from the B1G was we had not requested admission to the B1G before last week's meeting. The evidence supports those rumors. If you know we did in fact negotiate an offer from the B1G prior to last week, say so instead of just attacking those of us trying to read the tea leaves. We all want concrete info.
This report of discussions with the ACC is great, I have been rooting for it as an option for 14 months. We still have not heard any rumor of negotiations with the B1G but I would guess we are, because we have to, but if you have concrete info we have a standing offer previously negotiated, just share that. .
We are all Cal fans. Let's focus on the GREAT news that we are negotiating a deal with the ACC (includes Notre Dame) and ESPN. And if we also get the $420 million windfall and and easy path to the CFP as PAC-4 champs in 2024, then I will be the first to praise Christ and agree she has been playing 3-D chess.
Yes. In football, the remaining power conferences will shrink and realign into a super conference of, say, 40 teams that will resemble the NFL and be marketed and presented as such. Some of the existing power conference programs will not make the cut and be relegated to a lower status. What was previously a largely regional sport with geographic rivalries will eventually be replaced by a national sport composed of the major "brands" of college football. I'm sure the media companies have analyzed all this and concluded that this type of structure will create the most monetary value for them and for the super programs.philly1121 said:
Completely agree. Realignment happens. We're already hearing the whining about how Rutgers and Maryland contribute nothing and are takers. Expect a breakaway from the NCAA and a separate football league for the power teams.
Some college football fans will be turned off by this but most will continue to watch. And the new structure based on the NFL model will probably generate a new group of college football fans.
Just give me a power conference so that our athletics program is not sent into the margins.
PaulCali said:Yes. In football, the remaining power conferences will shrink and realign into a super conference of, say, 40 teams that will resemble the NFl and be marketed as such. Some of the existing power conference programs will not make the cut and be relegated to a lower status. What was previously a largely regional sport with geographic rivalries will be replaced by a national sport composed of the major "brands" of college football. I'm sure the media companies have analyzed all this and concluded that this structure will create the most monetary value.philly1121 said:
Completely agree. Realignment happens. We're already hearing the whining about how Rutgers and Maryland contribute nothing and are takers. Expect a breakaway from the NCAA and a separate football league for the power teams.
After the top 40 schools break away and have a playoff, the remaining 80 college football teams can create regional conferences and have a conference champion determined by a round Robin schedule. Then the conference champions of the different regions can play each other in an exhibition game on New Year's day as a reward for their terrific season, and the games can be located in fun warm weather locations like LA, Miami, or New Orleans.
Its college football before the networks were involved!
Well they speak as though they are somewhat keyed into upper level conversations. Speaking of wine and whine, we have whined endlessly about travel. But, since no one wants us (IMO due in no small part to the snobbery you are showing in your post), we are embracing it. Again, mental gymnastics.oski003 said:Econ141 said:BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
"If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns...".
All of your conclusions are based on an unproven statement in the second sentence, which you and Calalumnus have stated and implied over and over again the past week or so. Therefore, it certainly can make sense. Also, even if your premise is true, we may be able to go ACC for football and basketball only and, despite SactownDog being butthurt over Fresno State not offering wine doctorates (they apparently offer whine doctorates), may go to the Big West for other sports.
Fresno State actually offers 3 doctoral programs but none in viticulture. Either way I thought you 49er wine snobs would like some enology with your chardonnay?
Sounds like us playing in the MWC with extra stepsgolden sloth said:PaulCali said:Yes. In football, the remaining power conferences will shrink and realign into a super conference of, say, 40 teams that will resemble the NFl and be marketed as such. Some of the existing power conference programs will not make the cut and be relegated to a lower status. What was previously a largely regional sport with geographic rivalries will be replaced by a national sport composed of the major "brands" of college football. I'm sure the media companies have analyzed all this and concluded that this structure will create the most monetary value.philly1121 said:
Completely agree. Realignment happens. We're already hearing the whining about how Rutgers and Maryland contribute nothing and are takers. Expect a breakaway from the NCAA and a separate football league for the power teams.
After the top 40 schools break away and have a playoff, the remaining 80 college football teams can create regional conferences and have a conference champion determined by a round Robin schedule. Then the conference champions of the different regions can play each other in an exhibition game on New Year's day as a reward for their terrific season, and the games can be located in fun warm weather locations like LA, Miami, or New Orleans.
Its college football before the networks were involved!
All the complaints here have valid points. But the alternative is oblivion. All athletes who can will transfer if we are not in a P5 (P4) conference. If this moves the B1G to make an offer, great. We'd have a West Coast pod of six. If not, take any decent offer from the ACC. SAVE CAL SPORTS!!
oski003 said:Econ141 said:BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
"If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns...".
All of your conclusions are based on an unproven statement in the second sentence, which you and Calalumnus have stated and implied over and over again the past week or so. Therefore, it certainly can make sense. Also, even if your premise is true, we may be able to go ACC for football and basketball only and, despite SactownDog being butthurt over Fresno State not offering wine doctorates (they apparently offer whine doctorates), may go to the Big West for other sports.
Lol at wine doctorates!
To be clear I have not stated that she hasn't or has - I am just very anxious to know one way or the other. I would be totally surprised if she hadn't in the one year since UCLA made the decision to move. I would be completely bewildered if she hasn't since the events of last Friday. Sadly, if the answer was no, I think our program is dead - there is no way the program is going to have a turnaround that will warrant them being part of the 30-40 schools that make up the final mega conference. Any other option is just delaying death.
So as asinine as it sounds, I now hope she hasn't reached out and will do so immediately. Putting aside Cal/Stanford ... Not having a college football team on the national stage in the Bay Area sucks. I don't buy the no one cares about football here. There just needs to be a good team or two that the whole bay area can rally around. Better marketing and money can solve both. That is why I'm surprised the B1G/media won't just scoop us up on the cheap and force us to deliver...here 35 million per year for the next 5 seasons. Have a winning .500 conference record or you are out.
calumnus said:oski003 said:Econ141 said:BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
"If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns...".
All of your conclusions are based on an unproven statement in the second sentence, which you and Calalumnus have stated and implied over and over again the past week or so. Therefore, it certainly can make sense. Also, even if your premise is true, we may be able to go ACC for football and basketball only and, despite SactownDog being butthurt over Fresno State not offering wine doctorates (they apparently offer whine doctorates), may go to the Big West for other sports.
"If" is a conditional. Christ herself said travel is a huge concern. The rumor from the B1G was we had not requested admission to the B1G before last week's meeting. The evidence supports those rumors. If you know we did in fact negotiate an offer from the B1G prior to last week, say so instead of just attacking those of us trying to read the tea leaves. We all want concrete info.
This report of discussions with the ACC is great, I have been rooting for it as an option for 14 months. We still have not heard any rumor of negotiations with the B1G but I would guess we are, because we have to, but if you have concrete info we have a standing offer previously negotiated, just share that. .
We are all Cal fans. Let's focus on the GREAT news that we are negotiating a deal with the ACC (includes Notre Dame) and ESPN. And if we also get the $420 million windfall and and easy path to the CFP as PAC-4 champs in 2024, then I will be the first to praise Christ and agree she has been playing 3-D chess.
4-D Chess, actually.
Econ141 said:oski003 said:Econ141 said:BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
"If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns...".
All of your conclusions are based on an unproven statement in the second sentence, which you and Calalumnus have stated and implied over and over again the past week or so. Therefore, it certainly can make sense. Also, even if your premise is true, we may be able to go ACC for football and basketball only and, despite SactownDog being butthurt over Fresno State not offering wine doctorates (they apparently offer whine doctorates), may go to the Big West for other sports.
Lol at wine doctorates!
To be clear I have not stated that she hasn't or has - I am just very anxious to know one way or the other. I would be totally surprised if she hadn't in the one year since UCLA made the decision to move. I would be completely bewildered if she hasn't since the events of last Friday. Sadly, if the answer was no, I think our program is dead - there is no way the program is going to have a turnaround that will warrant them being part of the 30-40 schools that make up the final mega conference. Any other option is just delaying death.
So as asinine as it sounds, I now hope she hasn't reached out and will do so immediately. Putting aside Cal/Stanford ... Not having a college football team on the national stage in the Bay Area sucks. I don't buy the no one cares about football here. There just needs to be a good team or two that the whole bay area can rally around. Better marketing and money can solve both. That is why I'm surprised the B1G/media won't just scoop us up on the cheap and force us to deliver...here 35 million per year for the next 5 seasons. Have a winning .500 conference record or you are out.
Stanford had pretty good teams not that long ago, and they still didnt have fans come out. Cal had good crowds in the Tedford era, the bay area and college football needs Cal to be good again, not stanford.
Econ141 said:
Don't worry everyone, Carol and Jim are not "just waiting on the sidelines." In fact they have a regents meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning where they will announce a 6 month plan led by a third party consulting service to find us a home.
Six month is too long. If Cal football doesn't have a home before the end of the season. Cal won't have a team at the end of the season as soon as the Portal opens.
All players will rush to the exit
If the Chancellor and AD don't realize this, they are more clueless than portrayed on this Board
There is 0 chance that the Pac-4 is getting an automatic bid to the playoff. That will be amended long before Selection Sunday before they allow that.calumnus said:oski003 said:Econ141 said:BearHunter said:ACC exploring expansion for Cal/Stanford. Intrigued to see how this would be structured. No way can those 2 schools receive a full share. But how will Cal:Stanford afford the increased travel costs otherwise? https://t.co/vj1VDk83jv
— Mike Lewis 1๐๏ธ15๐๏ธ41 (@Mikeysurf) August 7, 2023
The travel situation is definitely not ideal.
None of this makes sense. If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns, this is a non-starter.
No way she would sign up for this. And the ACC is dysfunctional right now. I reiterate - the B1G is the only viable option. Carol needs to figure it out or let's close down shop. No one here is going to watch Cal play in the MWC and we are the only fans left.
"If Carol hasn't reached out to the B1G because of travel concerns...".
All of your conclusions are based on an unproven statement in the second sentence, which you and Calalumnus have stated and implied over and over again the past week or so. Therefore, it certainly can make sense. Also, even if your premise is true, we may be able to go ACC for football and basketball only and, despite SactownDog being butthurt over Fresno State not offering wine doctorates (they apparently offer whine doctorates), may go to the Big West for other sports.
And if we also get the $420 million windfall and and easy path to the CFP as PAC-4 champs in 2024, then I will be the first to praise Christ and agree she has been playing 3-D chess.
โMy tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.โ - Winston Churchill
GivemTheAxe said:Econ141 said:
Don't worry everyone, Carol and Jim are not "just waiting on the sidelines." In fact they have a regents meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning where they will announce a 6 month plan led by a third party consulting service to find us a home.
Six month is too long. If Cal football doesn't have a home before the end of the season. Cal won't have a team at the end of the season as soon as the Portal opens.
All players will rush to the exit
If the Chancellor and AD don't realize this, they are more clueless than portrayed on this Board
That was sarcasm - that was the time we took to investigate the swimming scandal. Everything so slow. We will fire Jim Knowlton after his contract expires due to his role in the scandal.
I always did like this album by Fleetwood Mac
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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