What will you do if Cal shuts down it program?

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Econ141
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Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:



Why is Knowlton not fired yet?

What do you see? You see, Failed Leadership.
For whatever it worth, of the three leadership teams that were talking to Cal Strong about coming onboard . . . Knowlton and his team were the least interested (followed by Moguluf). Knowlton seems very confident that he knows what he doing and needs no assistance.

The Chancellor's team was most receptive.

So if one hates Cal Strong . . . then one probably also trusts Knowlton's judgement

Strangely, the AD's team and Moguluf teams are the ones who are most likely to blame Cal professors, Cal alumni, and Berkeley coaches for the failures of the athletic department. They won't accept outside help because they are hyper-confident they have all the answers. Yet they are simultaneously certain that the decks are so stacked against them that they might fail (through no fault of their own, of course).

Cal Strong's position is that this crisis isn't just manageable, but that it is winnable . . . if we stop making excuses and start making strong decisions immediately (not weeks or months from now).


This sounds toxic ... It would be manageable and winnable if there was different leadership. My gosh the admin is going to bring us down all the way to the very end and it never had to even come close. Do you feel you, it any big donors, have any influence/voice in this? I need some hope.
dimitrig
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Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:



Why is Knowlton not fired yet?

What do you see? You see, Failed Leadership.
For whatever it worth, of the three leadership teams that were talking to Cal Strong about coming onboard . . . Knowlton and his team were the least interested (followed by Moguluf). Knowlton seems very confident that he knows what he doing and needs no assistance.

The Chancellor's team was most receptive.

So if one hates Cal Strong . . . then one probably also trusts Knowlton's judgement

Strangely, the AD's team and Moguluf teams are the ones who are most likely to blame Cal professors, Cal alumni, and Berkeley coaches for the failures of the athletic department. They won't accept outside help because they are hyper-confident they have all the answers. Yet they are simultaneously certain that the decks are so stacked against them that they might fail (through no fault of their own, of course).

Cal Strong's position is that this crisis isn't just manageable, but that it is winnable . . . if we stop making excuses and start making strong decisions immediately (not weeks or months from now).


Just place Knowlton on administrative leave and cite the McKeever investigation.

Meanwhile, hire a Strong AD.

I know it is going to hurt the wallet but Cal has to do it.

Cal should not be weak like Stanford but strong like Cal!



cal83dls79
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DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

Is this a collegiate football thread.? I respect water polo but why is it always introduced into the football growl? Like a zero comp.


Is your READING COMPREHENSION really this weak?

Try reading the title of the thread.
Duh.

it's not about water polo. Duh. The water polo guys interjected into football is what is weak. Names being taken.


Names being taken???

Whats next ...
Rock, Paper, Scissors?

Some of you guys on this thread are losing it.
You have an opportunity to choose to either be a WINNER or a LOSER.
You can be STRONG or you can be WEAK.
It's your choice.

I know what I'm choosing.








bridge too far. Ask yourself this. How much discussion is there of Olympic Sports on boards of football programs of any significance? The great water polo board at Clemson and UNC? Again, I enjoy water polo
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>He (Dykes) inherited a giant mess, but left cal better than he found it.

Nah. Fundamentally he left it just as he found it. With two huge structural weaknesses - 1) a university administration that views the prestige of winning non-revenues sports as more important that growing/defending overall sports revenue - which is driven by football and football alone. And 2) an Athletics department administration unwilling to educate the university administrators about sports as a business.

Now in fairness to Dykes, getting your organizational superiors to understand and be competent at their designated job responsibilities is somewhat above and beyond your normal duties. But sometimes it needs to be done. It's just not easily accomplished. So, no blame to Dykes, but yes, recognition that he wasn't able to succeed at what ultimately was the most critical (in the long run) role for the football coach.
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Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.


Hey BearinOC, maybe you forgot to sign out and your son or his hot UCLA girlfriend posted as you. If I were them, I might do that. Other possibility, maybe you're hammered tonight. I might do that, too, considering our current situation.

But if it was you and you were in your right mind, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

(FUC)LA and Go Bears!!!
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dimitrig said:

Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:



Why is Knowlton not fired yet?

What do you see? You see, Failed Leadership.
For whatever it worth, of the three leadership teams that were talking to Cal Strong about coming onboard . . . Knowlton and his team were the least interested (followed by Moguluf). Knowlton seems very confident that he knows what he doing and needs no assistance.

The Chancellor's team was most receptive.

So if one hates Cal Strong . . . then one probably also trusts Knowlton's judgement

Strangely, the AD's team and Moguluf teams are the ones who are most likely to blame Cal professors, Cal alumni, and Berkeley coaches for the failures of the athletic department. They won't accept outside help because they are hyper-confident they have all the answers. Yet they are simultaneously certain that the decks are so stacked against them that they might fail (through no fault of their own, of course).

Cal Strong's position is that this crisis isn't just manageable, but that it is winnable . . . if we stop making excuses and start making strong decisions immediately (not weeks or months from now).


Just place Knowlton on administrative leave and cite the McKeever investigation.

Meanwhile, hire a Strong AD.

I know it is going to hurt the wallet but Cal has to do it.

Cal should not be weak like Stanford but strong like Cal!

This the strongest post Cal has read in at least a year. Dimitrig strong . . . like Cal!

Cal Strong has already communicated to Chancellor that he cannot relocate to Berkeley. He stuck in New Zealand for foreseeable future. So he might be able to consult, but that about it. But there other strong leaders that Cal can and should go after for the AD position.

This would indeed hurt the wallet, as Cal Strong would have done it for pennies on the dollar -- provided he could work out of the botanical gardens so he can keep an eye on the tomatillos that he would plant there.

Cal Strong has largely withheld judgment of Knowlton until the Wilcox extension last year. But based on his interactions with senior leadership teams . . . well, let's just say Cal Strong should say no more here in the remote possibility the Chancellor makes him work with Cal Strong.
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Econ141 said:

Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:



Why is Knowlton not fired yet?

What do you see? You see, Failed Leadership.
For whatever it worth, of the three leadership teams that were talking to Cal Strong about coming onboard . . . Knowlton and his team were the least interested (followed by Moguluf). Knowlton seems very confident that he knows what he doing and needs no assistance.

The Chancellor's team was most receptive.

So if one hates Cal Strong . . . then one probably also trusts Knowlton's judgement

Strangely, the AD's team and Moguluf teams are the ones who are most likely to blame Cal professors, Cal alumni, and Berkeley coaches for the failures of the athletic department. They won't accept outside help because they are hyper-confident they have all the answers. Yet they are simultaneously certain that the decks are so stacked against them that they might fail (through no fault of their own, of course).

Cal Strong's position is that this crisis isn't just manageable, but that it is winnable . . . if we stop making excuses and start making strong decisions immediately (not weeks or months from now).


This sounds toxic ... It would be manageable and winnable if there was different leadership. My gosh the admin is going to bring us down all the way to the very end and it never had to even come close. Do you feel you, it any big donors, have any influence/voice in this? I need some hope.
Cal Strong was/is here to help. And he has the background to do so. But they seem to think they have all the brainpower they need. Cal Strong disagree on this point . . . but he hope he wrong.
Negabear3000
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Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:

Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:



Why is Knowlton not fired yet?

What do you see? You see, Failed Leadership.
For whatever it worth, of the three leadership teams that were talking to Cal Strong about coming onboard . . . Knowlton and his team were the least interested (followed by Moguluf). Knowlton seems very confident that he knows what he doing and needs no assistance.

The Chancellor's team was most receptive.

So if one hates Cal Strong . . . then one probably also trusts Knowlton's judgement

Strangely, the AD's team and Moguluf teams are the ones who are most likely to blame Cal professors, Cal alumni, and Berkeley coaches for the failures of the athletic department. They won't accept outside help because they are hyper-confident they have all the answers. Yet they are simultaneously certain that the decks are so stacked against them that they might fail (through no fault of their own, of course).

Cal Strong's position is that this crisis isn't just manageable, but that it is winnable . . . if we stop making excuses and start making strong decisions immediately (not weeks or months from now).


This sounds toxic ... It would be manageable and winnable if there was different leadership. My gosh the admin is going to bring us down all the way to the very end and it never had to even come close. Do you feel you, it any big donors, have any influence/voice in this? I need some hope.
Cal Strong was/is here to help. And he has the background to do so. But they seem to think they have all the brainpower they need. Cal Strong disagree on this point . . . but he hope he wrong.
Not asking for Cal Strong help when so freely offered the very definition of not STRONG! That is, WEAK!
DoubtfulBear
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Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:

Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:



Why is Knowlton not fired yet?

What do you see? You see, Failed Leadership.
For whatever it worth, of the three leadership teams that were talking to Cal Strong about coming onboard . . . Knowlton and his team were the least interested (followed by Moguluf). Knowlton seems very confident that he knows what he doing and needs no assistance.

The Chancellor's team was most receptive.

So if one hates Cal Strong . . . then one probably also trusts Knowlton's judgement

Strangely, the AD's team and Moguluf teams are the ones who are most likely to blame Cal professors, Cal alumni, and Berkeley coaches for the failures of the athletic department. They won't accept outside help because they are hyper-confident they have all the answers. Yet they are simultaneously certain that the decks are so stacked against them that they might fail (through no fault of their own, of course).

Cal Strong's position is that this crisis isn't just manageable, but that it is winnable . . . if we stop making excuses and start making strong decisions immediately (not weeks or months from now).


This sounds toxic ... It would be manageable and winnable if there was different leadership. My gosh the admin is going to bring us down all the way to the very end and it never had to even come close. Do you feel you, it any big donors, have any influence/voice in this? I need some hope.
Cal Strong was/is here to help. And he has the background to do so. But they seem to think they have all the brainpower they need. Cal Strong disagree on this point . . . but he hope he wrong.
Even if you managed to help them salvage what's left of this bad situation, it won't change the culture of the university administration against focusing on revenue sports. We will still pursue the status quo and go from mediocre in P5 to mediocre to G5.


I say we let them burn it to the ground and maybe after a decade of no sports, a new generation of leadership will step in and actually invest in what's needed for college football. Hopefully the media bubble bursts by then and the playing ground becomes somewhat more even.
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Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
Big Dog
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BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
The greatest philosopher ever once said, 'it ain't over until its over" so let's hold off on the pity party.
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BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
"[P]eople in tree throwing feces..." LOL

Welp, for better or worse, we can't take the Berkeley out of Cal.
"Just win, baby."
DoubtfulBear
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Bowlesman80 said:

BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
"[P]eople in tree throwing feces..." LOL

Welp, for better or worse, we can't take the Berkeley out of Cal.
Bay Area progressives are really the scum of the earth. Hypocrites that claim their care about equality and social welfare but will stop at nothing to selfishly preserve their personal wealth. If only there was a way to funnel all the homeless into NIMBY communities and let them deal with the consequences of their own actions
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DoubtfulBear said:

Bowlesman80 said:

BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
"[P]eople in tree throwing feces..." LOL

Welp, for better or worse, we can't take the Berkeley out of Cal.
Bay Area progressives are really the scum of the earth. Hypocrites that claim their care about equality and social welfare but will stop at nothing to selfishly preserve their personal wealth. If only there was a way to funnel all the homeless into NIMBY communities and let them deal with the consequences of their own actions
Hmmm.... give them bus tickets to Atherton, Los Gatos, et cetera. LOL
I cannot help but agree. I think nearly all of the fulltime "protestors" are professionals financed by people who like the chaos more than any cause. I remember seeing some of the same people "protesting" and professing in Sproul Plaza, day after day, while I wondered how the Hell they supported themselves.
"Just win, baby."
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DiabloWags said:

During the Sonny Dykes era, I got tired of our joke defense and watching us lose after being up 42 - 10 at halftime.

I spent my Fall Saturdays doing sprinkler repair. I was not alone doing this.



For no particular reason my interest in all sports has almost completely gone away after a lifetime of being a sports fan and participant. After surgeries and seizures laid me up in the 2020s I've gotten great satisfaction being able to do bigger and bigger projects around our house. Just finished building a new 40 ft fence in our backyard, new concrete block steps up to that fence and a third concrete block retaining wall. These projects have given me greater joy than almost any Cal sports achievement I can remember. Maybe if they had won a Rose Bowl...
Hope you are well.
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Big Dog said:

BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
The greatest philosopher ever once said, 'it ain't over until its over" so let's hold off on the pity party.
If you can't decipher the current landscape of college sport and Cal's inept admin and the crises we are currently in...well, no sense.
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Bowlesman80 said:

BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
"[P]eople in tree throwing feces..." LOL

Welp, for better or worse, we can't take the Berkeley out of Cal.
That was pretty funny, wasn't it, lol
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Bowlesman80 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

Bowlesman80 said:

BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
"[P]eople in tree throwing feces..." LOL

Welp, for better or worse, we can't take the Berkeley out of Cal.
Bay Area progressives are really the scum of the earth. Hypocrites that claim their care about equality and social welfare but will stop at nothing to selfishly preserve their personal wealth. If only there was a way to funnel all the homeless into NIMBY communities and let them deal with the consequences of their own actions
Hmmm.... give them bus tickets to Atherton, Los Gatos, et cetera. LOL
I cannot help but agree. I think nearly all of the fulltime "protestors" are professionals financed by people who like the chaos more than any cause. I remember seeing some of the same people "protesting" and professing in Sproul Plaza, day after day, while I wondered how the Hell they supported themselves.
I agree with being encouraged by chaos loving self interest pushing entity. As for support, I think they beg and live free in the Peoples Park where we can't build dorms.
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I wonder if Wilcox is kicking himself for not going to Oregon....
Cal Junkie
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BearinOC said:

Bowlesman80 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

Bowlesman80 said:

BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
"[P]eople in tree throwing feces..." LOL

Welp, for better or worse, we can't take the Berkeley out of Cal.
Bay Area progressives are really the scum of the earth. Hypocrites that claim their care about equality and social welfare but will stop at nothing to selfishly preserve their personal wealth. If only there was a way to funnel all the homeless into NIMBY communities and let them deal with the consequences of their own actions
Hmmm.... give them bus tickets to Atherton, Los Gatos, et cetera. LOL
I cannot help but agree. I think nearly all of the fulltime "protestors" are professionals financed by people who like the chaos more than any cause. I remember seeing some of the same people "protesting" and professing in Sproul Plaza, day after day, while I wondered how the Hell they supported themselves.
I agree with being encouraged by chaos loving self interest pushing entity. As for support, I think they beg and live free in the Peoples Park where we can't build dorm
They beg, live free and shoot up in People's Park. I am quite liberal but the tree-sitters were disingenuous scumbags. Remember them claiming that the oak trees planter in 1923 were "old growth?" Remember them claiming that Memorial Stadium was built on a burial ground? Yup, stinking hypocrites funded by the Panoramic Hill Association, which will be delighted to no end when Memorial Stadium has no sports team events. Selfish, entitled boomers and I am 60 so I am embarrassed to share their generational bracket. All that said, I AM a liberal, but one with clear eyes and an authentic moral compass.
DiabloWags
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Negabear3000 said:

Cal Strong! said:



Cal Strong was/is here to help. And he has the background to do so. But they seem to think they have all the brainpower they need. Cal Strong disagree on this point . . . but he hope he wrong.
Not asking for Cal Strong help when so freely offered the very definition of not STRONG! That is, WEAK!

Stanford and SMU have Condoleeza Rice and George Bush lobbying for admission into the ACC.
We have no one.

ACC expansion: Condoleezza Rice, George W. Bush lobbying on behalf Stanford, SMU, per reports - CBSSports.com

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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DiabloWags said:

Negabear3000 said:

Cal Strong! said:



Cal Strong was/is here to help. And he has the background to do so. But they seem to think they have all the brainpower they need. Cal Strong disagree on this point . . . but he hope he wrong.
Not asking for Cal Strong help when so freely offered the very definition of not STRONG! That is, WEAK!

Stanford and SMU have Condoleeza Rice and George Bush lobbying for admission into the ACC.
We have no one.

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82gradDLSdad said:

DiabloWags said:

During the Sonny Dykes era, I got tired of our joke defense and watching us lose after being up 42 - 10 at halftime.

I spent my Fall Saturdays doing sprinkler repair. I was not alone doing this.



For no particular reason my interest in all sports has almost completely gone away after a lifetime of being a sports fan and participant. After surgeries and seizures laid me up in the 2020s I've gotten great satisfaction being able to do bigger and bigger projects around our house. Just finished building a new 40 ft fence in our backyard, new concrete block steps up to that fence and a third concrete block retaining wall. These projects have given me greater joy than almost any Cal sports achievement I can remember. Maybe if they had won a Rose Bowl...
Hope you are well.

Good to hear that you are spending your time doing STRONG things with concrete and fencing!

Sadly for us, our Administration has never been STRONG enough to build our "brand" with concrete and protect our future with fencing. - - - That's why we are where we are.



"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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DiabloWags said:

82gradDLSdad said:

DiabloWags said:

During the Sonny Dykes era, I got tired of our joke defense and watching us lose after being up 42 - 10 at halftime.

I spent my Fall Saturdays doing sprinkler repair. I was not alone doing this.



For no particular reason my interest in all sports has almost completely gone away after a lifetime of being a sports fan and participant. After surgeries and seizures laid me up in the 2020s I've gotten great satisfaction being able to do bigger and bigger projects around our house. Just finished building a new 40 ft fence in our backyard, new concrete block steps up to that fence and a third concrete block retaining wall. These projects have given me greater joy than almost any Cal sports achievement I can remember. Maybe if they had won a Rose Bowl...
Hope you are well.

Good to hear that you are spending your time doing STRONG things with concrete and fencing!

Sadly for us, our Administration has never been STRONG enough to build our "brand" with concrete and protect our future with fencing. - - - That's why we are where we are.




Let me fix that for you: Sadly for us, our Administration has never been STRONG. (Period.)

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Big Dog said:

DiabloWags said:

82gradDLSdad said:

DiabloWags said:

During the Sonny Dykes era, I got tired of our joke defense and watching us lose after being up 42 - 10 at halftime.

I spent my Fall Saturdays doing sprinkler repair. I was not alone doing this.



For no particular reason my interest in all sports has almost completely gone away after a lifetime of being a sports fan and participant. After surgeries and seizures laid me up in the 2020s I've gotten great satisfaction being able to do bigger and bigger projects around our house. Just finished building a new 40 ft fence in our backyard, new concrete block steps up to that fence and a third concrete block retaining wall. These projects have given me greater joy than almost any Cal sports achievement I can remember. Maybe if they had won a Rose Bowl...
Hope you are well.

Good to hear that you are spending your time doing STRONG things with concrete and fencing!

Sadly for us, our Administration has never been STRONG enough to build our "brand" with concrete and protect our future with fencing. - - - That's why we are where we are.




Let me fix that for you: Sadly for us, our Administration has never been STRONG. (Period.)



One can actually make a case that we didnt know what to do when we experienced SUCCESS with Jeff Tedford.
Instead of getting academic help for our student athletes, we did what LOSERS do and chose instead to restrict admission.

A very WEAK move indeed.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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Go fishing
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
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BearinOC said:

Bowlesman80 said:

BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
"[P]eople in tree throwing feces..." LOL

Welp, for better or worse, we can't take the Berkeley out of Cal.
That was pretty funny, wasn't it, lol
Those *******s were ridiculous, if we're talking about the protest during the CMS renovation.
"Just win, baby."
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Cal Junkie said:

BearinOC said:

Bowlesman80 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

Bowlesman80 said:

BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
"[P]eople in tree throwing feces..." LOL

Welp, for better or worse, we can't take the Berkeley out of Cal.
Bay Area progressives are really the scum of the earth. Hypocrites that claim their care about equality and social welfare but will stop at nothing to selfishly preserve their personal wealth. If only there was a way to funnel all the homeless into NIMBY communities and let them deal with the consequences of their own actions
Hmmm.... give them bus tickets to Atherton, Los Gatos, et cetera. LOL
I cannot help but agree. I think nearly all of the fulltime "protestors" are professionals financed by people who like the chaos more than any cause. I remember seeing some of the same people "protesting" and professing in Sproul Plaza, day after day, while I wondered how the Hell they supported themselves.
I agree with being encouraged by chaos loving self interest pushing entity. As for support, I think they beg and live free in the Peoples Park where we can't build dorm
They beg, live free and shoot up in People's Park. I am quite liberal but the tree-sitters were disingenuous scumbags. Remember them claiming that the oak trees planter in 1923 were "old growth?" Remember them claiming that Memorial Stadium was built on a burial ground? Yup, stinking hypocrites funded by the Panoramic Hill Association, which will be delighted to no end when Memorial Stadium has no sports team events. Selfish, entitled boomers and I am 60 so I am embarrassed to share their generational bracket. All that said, I AM a liberal, but one with clear eyes and an authentic moral compass.
I wish more liberals were like you.
I miss the days when most folks could agree to disagree, but never would silencing be an option.
I appreciate your objectivity.
Go Bears. Speaking of Bears. Sending bears up that tree would have been a hoot, right?
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BearinOC said:

Bowlesman80 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

Bowlesman80 said:

BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
"[P]eople in tree throwing feces..." LOL

Welp, for better or worse, we can't take the Berkeley out of Cal.
Bay Area progressives are really the scum of the earth. Hypocrites that claim their care about equality and social welfare but will stop at nothing to selfishly preserve their personal wealth. If only there was a way to funnel all the homeless into NIMBY communities and let them deal with the consequences of their own actions
Hmmm.... give them bus tickets to Atherton, Los Gatos, et cetera. LOL
I cannot help but agree. I think nearly all of the fulltime "protestors" are professionals financed by people who like the chaos more than any cause. I remember seeing some of the same people "protesting" and professing in Sproul Plaza, day after day, while I wondered how the Hell they supported themselves.
I agree with being encouraged by chaos loving self interest pushing entity. As for support, I think they beg and live free in the Peoples Park where we can't build dorms.
I think the panhandling is cover for actual financing. I find it hard to believe they could thrive given the high density of panhandling versus the scattered kind-hearted givers that might support them. I'm thinking SPECTRE, so let's get 007 on the case.
"Just win, baby."
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DoubtfulBear said:

Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:

Cal Strong! said:

Econ141 said:



Why is Knowlton not fired yet?

What do you see? You see, Failed Leadership.
For whatever it worth, of the three leadership teams that were talking to Cal Strong about coming onboard . . . Knowlton and his team were the least interested (followed by Moguluf). Knowlton seems very confident that he knows what he doing and needs no assistance.

The Chancellor's team was most receptive.

So if one hates Cal Strong . . . then one probably also trusts Knowlton's judgement

Strangely, the AD's team and Moguluf teams are the ones who are most likely to blame Cal professors, Cal alumni, and Berkeley coaches for the failures of the athletic department. They won't accept outside help because they are hyper-confident they have all the answers. Yet they are simultaneously certain that the decks are so stacked against them that they might fail (through no fault of their own, of course).

Cal Strong's position is that this crisis isn't just manageable, but that it is winnable . . . if we stop making excuses and start making strong decisions immediately (not weeks or months from now).


This sounds toxic ... It would be manageable and winnable if there was different leadership. My gosh the admin is going to bring us down all the way to the very end and it never had to even come close. Do you feel you, it any big donors, have any influence/voice in this? I need some hope.
Cal Strong was/is here to help. And he has the background to do so. But they seem to think they have all the brainpower they need. Cal Strong disagree on this point . . . but he hope he wrong.
Even if you managed to help them salvage what's left of this bad situation, it won't change the culture of the university administration against focusing on revenue sports. We will still pursue the status quo and go from mediocre in P5 to mediocre to G5.


I say we let them burn it to the ground and maybe after a decade of no sports, a new generation of leadership will step in and actually invest in what's needed for college football. Hopefully the media bubble bursts by then and the playing ground becomes somewhat more even.
Cal Strong understands DoubtfulBear's pessimism. But he disagree that the problem is a lack of "focus" on revenue sports. And he strongly disagree with the administrations' plan "B" (Doubtful Bear's Plan A) to close down IA.

DoubtfulBear no going to like this . . . but it for his own good. Doubtfulbear: you need to toughen up your thinking. Be more like Cal . . . less like Cal administrators. Weak, desperate, and senseless no way to go through life. Not for a strong bear. You need a glass of water, 20 pushups, 50 jumping jacks, and then listen to Fight for California three times.

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DiabloWags said:

82gradDLSdad said:

DiabloWags said:

During the Sonny Dykes era, I got tired of our joke defense and watching us lose after being up 42 - 10 at halftime.

I spent my Fall Saturdays doing sprinkler repair. I was not alone doing this.



For no particular reason my interest in all sports has almost completely gone away after a lifetime of being a sports fan and participant. After surgeries and seizures laid me up in the 2020s I've gotten great satisfaction being able to do bigger and bigger projects around our house. Just finished building a new 40 ft fence in our backyard, new concrete block steps up to that fence and a third concrete block retaining wall. These projects have given me greater joy than almost any Cal sports achievement I can remember. Maybe if they had won a Rose Bowl...
Hope you are well.

Good to hear that you are spending your time doing STRONG things with concrete and fencing!

Sadly for us, our Administration has never been STRONG enough to build our "brand" with concrete and protect our future with fencing. - - - That's why we are where we are.

Cal Strong really truly proud of 82gradDLS. That very strong.

He also really starting to respect the strength and integrity of DiabloWags. He seem to have strong head on his shoulders.

Cal Strong has never been offered a senior role at Cal, and he probably stuck in New Zealand for the next few years anyway. But if something unlikely were to happen and he was ever offered a senior role either in the IAD or at Cal more broadly, he would need strong bears like DiabloWags in his office.

Cal Strong sure this will not happen for him or for Cal. And he also pretty sure that DiabloWags is already so successful he could no lure him away. But rest strongly assured . . . he would try.

We need more strong bears who do not spend too much time thinking why we can't do strong things. Strength is within our reach. No more time for weakness. No more time for excuses. Time to be strong.
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BearinOC said:

Cal Strong! said:

BearinOC said:

My son is starting his graduate program at UCLA in Chemistry. I will adopt UCLA as my new school. *****Cal and it's incompetent administrators. I regret attending Cal. I should have chosen UCLA.
BearinOC WEAK. No pride. No strength. No backbone.

Soft. As. Baby. Poop.

Toughen up your thinking BearinOC. Be more like Cal . . . less like the weak bear who just posted what BearinOC posted.
Over 30 years of watching Cal (people in trees throwing feces, losing Snyder, losing basketball, softball, volleyball, unable to build dorms, hillltop people filing injunctions, etc.) has me very pessimistic about Cal's future. Have we become this bad from #1 in the Pac to the last 4 that no one wants? Acc and Big10 may take Stanford accoding to the last article I read leaving Cal in the company of OSU and WSU.

You too, will feel this way after being disappointed at every turn. We are the Bad New Bears, the movie.

I will stop as I dont want to be more of a Debbie Downer.
Cal Strong has also witnessed these things. He has also been disappointed. But it time to strong up. We can win this crisis. We just need the strongest people in the room. We need to stop settling for weakness.

Cal Strong wants BearinOC to stop being weak. Take freezing cold shower. Do 50 pushups and 100 jumping jacks (it fine to space them out throughout the day if you need to). Go to Portola Coffee Roasters and get a pour over . . . this will wake you up. Then listen to Fight for California 20 times. Watch highlights of 2002 Big Game. Stop being weak. Toughen up your thinking. Come back to your senses.

If you do these things, then come back to Cal. And come back and report to Cal Strong . . . he will have one more piece of strong direction.
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Trumpanzee said:

I wonder if Wilcox is kicking himself for not going to Oregon....

If Cal Strong was ever AD, he would never give any extensions based on other offers . . . unless the coach actually deserved it. And if the coach did deserve it, s/he would have to provide Cal Strong with a formal written offer from the other school. If s/he could not produce such a written offer, s/he would be immediately terminated for cause for coming at Cal Strong with weak lies.

He would never accept unsourced reports of an offer as a basis for an extension.

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The University of Califirnia, Berkeley should admit it can't manage high level college football and outsource management of the program to an alumni-run private not for profit corporation that would hire and fire coaches, pay the players and give them scholarships, fire Learfield and negotiate for conference membership and media contracts and be lead by seasoned alumni from the professional sports world. We focus on growing our brand in the East Bay and throughout California. We have an admissions agreement with the university: anyone who meets minimum UC qualifications plus 10 or 20 special admits.

Donations would be converted to voting shares. We raise enough capital to get through the next few years, playing as an independent if we have to.

The other sports could then go to the Big West with a huge cut in travel budget, the AD could be a much lower paid administrator.
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Cal Strong! said:

Trumpanzee said:

I wonder if Wilcox is kicking himself for not going to Oregon....

If Cal Strong was ever AD, he would never give any extensions based on other offers . . . unless the coach actually deserved it. And if the coach did deserve it, s/he would have to provide Cal Strong with a formal written offer from the other school. If s/he could not produce such a written offer, s/he would be immediately terminated for cause for coming at Cal Strong with weak lies.

He would never accept unsourced reports of an offer as a basis for an extension.




JK has to the absolute worst AD in the country.
 
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