How did that portal move pan out for him, eh?

ArchiBear76 said:

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How did that portal move pan out for him, eh?

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No need to pile on J Mike. He still probably made more NIL money that he ever would at Cal. However, he would have been a star here and raised his prospect profile, instead of now mired in underachievement at UCLA. We all have to make our own choices and live with them.

I was in the stands talking JMike and Bruins fans blame Chip. Chips mystery play calling they described it. "Free JMike!" I heard that several times. Lol. Yep some play for money, some for the game, some for school, or the coaches or for family. I don't blame him at all.

A lesson to be learned in the portal era: The notion that the grass may be greener on the other side may be illusory.

southseasbear said:

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A lesson to be learned in the portal era: The notion that the grass may be greener on the other side may be illusory.

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Maybe the money was greener?

southseasbear said:

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A lesson to be learned in the portal era: The notion that the grass may be greener on the other side may be illusory.

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it turned out that the quality of his play was overestimated in the first place...except by him. He wasn't any more productive for them than he was for us.

At least JMS should end up with a UCLA degree, which is more than Makai Polk can say . . .

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At least JMS should end up with a UCLA degree, which is more than Makai Polk can say . . .

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LOL, I wonder how QB Milner's doing at Northern Arizona. And that degree is something everyone seeks........to avoid. However apparently Plummer made the right decision, for him.

There is absolutely reason to pile on Sturdivant. He and his "crew" actively tried to sabotage our program. He not only used fake numbers to try to extort our NIL, he also tried to falsely induce Ott and Hunter to join him at fucla. For his efforts he got to watch his numbers decline significantly (who could have ever predicted that?):

Receptions: 65 to 32
Yards: 755 to 455
TD: 7 to 3

All against one of the softest schedules in the country. Ucla didn't play UW or Oregon. They did't beat a P5 team with a winning record except USC, who is in freefall. They didn't win a single game outside California. The only team they beat outside of Southern California was 3-9 Stanford.

Sturdivant had 10 of his 32 receptions (31%), 190 of his receiving yards (41%), and 2 of his 3 TDs (66%) against Coastal Carolina and Stanford.

Sturdivant got outperformed by the unrecruited walk-on who replaced him. So, congrats to Trond and yikes to Sturdivant lol.

Go Bears! f ucla

heartofthebear said:

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HearstMining said:

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At least JMS should end up with a UCLA degree, which is more than Makai Polk can say . . .

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LOL, I wonder how QB Milner's doing at Northern Arizona. And that degree is something everyone seeks........to avoid. However apparently Plummer made the right decision, for him.

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I was curious, so I looked up Kai Millner's stats. He played 3 games for Northern Arizona. They were the first three, so I'm guessing he was injured, as he appears to have started at least the first two. He finished at 38-64-1 with 2 TDs and 458 yards. He also rushed 26 times for 99 yards and 1 TD. One of the two games was against Arizona, so that held his stats down. He did much better the next week against North Dakota, which made the FCS playoffs, though they lost yesterday to Sacramento State.

KoreAmBear said:

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ArchiBear76 said:

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How did that portal move pan out for him, eh?

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No need to pile on J Mike. He still probably made more NIL money that he ever would at Cal. However, he would have been a star here and raised his prospect profile, instead of now mired in underachievement at UCLA. We all have to make our own choices and live with them.

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The story going around last summer was that UCLA offered JMS twice the NIL money that Cal offered, but once he enrolled, UCLA apparently didn't enough NIL money to cover all their promises. So, the word was that JMS only got half the NIL money he was promised and in the end, it wasn't very different from what Cal offered. Sebastabear can probably say whether this was true or not.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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ArchiBear76 said:

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How did that portal move pan out for him, eh?

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No need to pile on J Mike. He still probably made more NIL money that he ever would at Cal. However, he would have been a star here and raised his prospect profile, instead of now mired in underachievement at UCLA. We all have to make our own choices and live with them.

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The story going around last summer was that UCLA offered JMS twice the NIL money that Cal offered, but once he enrolled, UCLA apparently didn't enough NIL money to cover all their promises. So, the word was that JMS only got half the NIL money he was promised and in the end, it wasn't very different from what Cal offered. Sebastabear can probably say whether this was true or not.

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Isn't that called "Bait and Switch" ???

calgldnbear said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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ArchiBear76 said:

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How did that portal move pan out for him, eh?

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No need to pile on J Mike. He still probably made more NIL money that he ever would at Cal. However, he would have been a star here and raised his prospect profile, instead of now mired in underachievement at UCLA. We all have to make our own choices and live with them.

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The story going around last summer was that UCLA offered JMS twice the NIL money that Cal offered, but once he enrolled, UCLA apparently didn't enough NIL money to cover all their promises. So, the word was that JMS only got half the NIL money he was promised and in the end, it wasn't very different from what Cal offered. Sebastabear can probably say whether this was true or not.

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Isn't that called "Bait and Switch" ???

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It's a very charitable interpretation to assume neither Sturdivant nor his street "agent" trainer knew the ballpark of the real numbers.

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heartofthebear said:

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HearstMining said:

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At least JMS should end up with a UCLA degree, which is more than Makai Polk can say . . .

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LOL, I wonder how QB Milner's doing at Northern Arizona. And that degree is something everyone seeks........to avoid. However apparently Plummer made the right decision, for him.

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I was curious, so I looked up Kai Millner's stats. He played 3 games for Northern Arizona. They were the first three, so I'm guessing he was injured, as he appears to have started at least the first two. He finished at 38-64-1 with 2 TDs and 458 yards. He also rushed 26 times for 99 yards and 1 TD. One of the two games was against Arizona, so that held his stats down. He did much better the next week against North Dakota, which made the FCS playoffs, though they lost yesterday to Sacramento State.

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Thanks but not impressed with the stats.
Was he chased out by Spav's decision to bring in more QBs?
I don't know, but, once Plummer left, he was the incumbent and had played well against Oregon.
He could have made a run at it and gotten a good degree. As we all know, the QBs Spav. brought in didn't end up winning the job, although SJV was injured.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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ArchiBear76 said:

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How did that portal move pan out for him, eh?

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No need to pile on J Mike. He still probably made more NIL money that he ever would at Cal. However, he would have been a star here and raised his prospect profile, instead of now mired in underachievement at UCLA. We all have to make our own choices and live with them.

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The story going around last summer was that UCLA offered JMS twice the NIL money that Cal offered, but once he enrolled, UCLA apparently didn't enough NIL money to cover all their promises. So, the word was that JMS only got half the NIL money he was promised and in the end, it wasn't very different from what Cal offered. Sebastabear can probably say whether this was true or not.

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Story is somewhat worse than that from the JMS side. We were probably matching or exceeding UCLA even BEFORE they reneged on him. I traded texts with him the night before he entered saying I had a new NIL offer I'd like to give him. He said "great". I said "Can I call you" and then there was radio silence. Followed up repeatedly (as did others). Nothing. My suspicion is his dad locked this down. And then he was gone.

The story that got told that J Mike left for more NIL money is not, and never was, true. I'm sure he and his dad said something to that effect when speaking to the coaches at Cal and others because it made him look like a very desirable commodity who had made a smart business decision. But the cold hard truth is we had parted ways with Plummer, our oline the prior season had been a disaster and he wanted to be in a system where he could showcase his talents for the NFL.

Now why he thought UCLA would be a better place for him to showcase those talents given their own quarterback questions going into the season is a mystery. But he locked in and he wasn't unlocking. And he wasn't buying the story we were telling about what we were going to do to fix the oline. Which we did by the way.

This wasn't a money issue. It never was. If it had been at a minimum, he would've heard our offer. He didn't.

End of story.

^ good stuff sebasta, j mike traded gold chains for half the receptions

Rumors are swirling in Bruinland that their NIL is underfunded and struggling. Music to my ears.

WalterSobchak said:

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There is absolutely reason to pile on Sturdivant. He and his "crew" actively tried to sabotage our program. He not only used fake numbers to try to extort our NIL, he also tried to falsely induce Ott and Hunter to join him at fucla. For his efforts he got to watch his numbers decline significantly (who could have ever predicted that?):

Receptions: 65 to 32
Yards: 755 to 455
TD: 7 to 3

All against one of the softest schedules in the country. Ucla didn't play UW or Oregon. They did't beat a P5 team with a winning record except USC, who is in freefall. They didn't win a single game outside California. The only team they beat outside of Southern California was 3-9 Stanford.

Sturdivant had 10 of his 32 receptions (31%), 190 of his receiving yards (41%), and 2 of his 3 TDs (66%) against Coastal Carolina and Stanford.

Sturdivant got outperformed by the unrecruited walk-on who replaced him. So, congrats to Trond and yikes to Sturdivant lol.

Go Bears! f ucla

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You did predict it. I remember your post and how it reassured me when I thought the news of JMS transferring to Southern Branch was a sign that the sky was falling. You were right: Hunter is the better receiver. And we may be better off without JMS and the baggage he was carrying. Let's see how he likes playing in late fall in the Midwest.

southseasbear said:

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You did predict it. I remember your post and how it reassured me when I thought the news of JMS transferring to Southern Branch was a sign that the sky was falling. You were right: Hunter is the better receiver. And we may be better off without JMS and the baggage he was carrying. Let's see how he likes playing in late fall in the Midwest.

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Glad it helped. I just hated seeing the false narrative that Ucla stole our best WR and LB when neither was remotely true.

JimSox said:

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southseasbear said:

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A lesson to be learned in the portal era: The notion that the grass may be greener on the other side may be illusory.

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Maybe the money was greener?

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You mean the short-term money was greener. The long term money- not so much if he is buried and lost among other star receivers. I hope Ott takes notice.

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heartofthebear said:

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HearstMining said:

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At least JMS should end up with a UCLA degree, which is more than Makai Polk can say . . .

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LOL, I wonder how QB Milner's doing at Northern Arizona. And that degree is something everyone seeks........to avoid. However apparently Plummer made the right decision, for him.

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I was curious, so I looked up Kai Millner's stats. He played 3 games for Northern Arizona. They were the first three, so I'm guessing he was injured, as he appears to have started at least the first two. He finished at 38-64-1 with 2 TDs and 458 yards. He also rushed 26 times for 99 yards and 1 TD. One of the two games was against Arizona, so that held his stats down. He did much better the next week against North Dakota, which made the FCS playoffs, though they lost yesterday to Sacramento State.

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At the end of last year I was surprised that Milner bolted so quickly. The way things turned out the 5* Jackson hyped recruit fizzled and so did the #2 backup Finley.
The door was open for Mendoza. Woulda coulda shoulda been Milner.

KoreAmBear said:

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ArchiBear76 said:

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How did that portal move pan out for him, eh?

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No need to pile on J Mike. He still probably made more NIL money that he ever would at Cal. However, he would have been a star here and raised his prospect profile, instead of now mired in underachievement at UCLA. We all have to make our own choices and live with them.

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nah, as lame as greg poppovich telling fans not to boo. this era of college football is a business and the dude made a business decision for himself at the expense of cal. glad to see him have a far worse season. cal fans don't owe him a thing.

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KoreAmBear said:

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ArchiBear76 said:

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How did that portal move pan out for him, eh?

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No need to pile on J Mike. He still probably made more NIL money that he ever would at Cal. However, he would have been a star here and raised his prospect profile, instead of now mired in underachievement at UCLA. We all have to make our own choices and live with them.

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nah, as lame as greg poppovich telling fans not to boo. this era of college football is a business and the dude made a business decision for himself at the expense of cal. glad to see him have a far worse season. cal fans don't owe him a thing.

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I never said we owe him anything. He's getting punished for his own miscalculation. Doesn't mean we need to pile on a 19-20 year old kid.

GivemTheAxe said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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heartofthebear said:

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HearstMining said:

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At least JMS should end up with a UCLA degree, which is more than Makai Polk can say . . .

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LOL, I wonder how QB Milner's doing at Northern Arizona. And that degree is something everyone seeks........to avoid. However apparently Plummer made the right decision, for him.

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I was curious, so I looked up Kai Millner's stats. He played 3 games for Northern Arizona. They were the first three, so I'm guessing he was injured, as he appears to have started at least the first two. He finished at 38-64-1 with 2 TDs and 458 yards. He also rushed 26 times for 99 yards and 1 TD. One of the two games was against Arizona, so that held his stats down. He did much better the next week against North Dakota, which made the FCS playoffs, though they lost yesterday to Sacramento State.

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At the end of last year I was surprised that Milner bolted so quickly. The way things turned out the 5* Jackson hyped recruit fizzled and so did the #2 backup Finley.
The door was open for Mendoza. Woulda coulda shoulda been Milner.

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Milner was told he would not play. He was told they were bringing in QBs that would play over him and that he should enter the portal.

End of story.