Cal 4-8

Even i am not that pessimistic

Oakbear said:

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Cal 4-8

Even i am not that pessimistic

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Yeah that's crazy pessimistic. Gotta think that scenario means we only win home games against UC Davis, SDSU, Oregon State, & Furd in that scenario. Although that kind of would be an absolute floor I guess for the team. I think the 4th win that's the floor for the team and worst cast scenario would be Oregon State or Wake Forest.

My heart says 12-0, but my brain says 6-6.

Go Bears!

My heart is more 15-0, but think 6/7-7/6 is more likely

I guess USA Today is on team Fire Wilcox

8-5, including a bowl game win over a former P12 team (Arizona in the Sun Bowl? USC in the Alamo? Colonel Mustard in the Library?)

Cal88 said:

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8-5, including a bowl game win over a former P12 team (Arizona in the Sun Bowl? USC in the Alamo? Colonel Mustard in the Library?)

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I believe that for the next season or two, the bowl games with a past PAC-12 affiliation will continue to invite teams that had been in the PAC-12 (including Oregon State and Washington State). So, it's very unlikely that two former Pac-12 teams will meet in a bowl game unless it's in the Playoffs. Most of the early bowl game projections I've seen have Cal in the Los Angeles Bowl against Boise State or Fresno State.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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8-5, including a bowl game win over a former P12 team (Arizona in the Sun Bowl? USC in the Alamo? Colonel Mustard in the Library?)

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I believe that for the next season or two, the bowl games with a past PAC-12 affiliation will continue to invite teams that had been in the PAC-12 (including Oregon State and Washington State). So, it's very unlikely that two former Pac-12 teams will meet in a bowl game unless it's in the Playoffs. Most of the early bowl game projections I've seen have Cal in the Los Angeles Bowl against Boise State or Fresno State.

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Let's say a bowl game has secured the right to match up a Big10 team vs a former Pac12, what would prevent it from picking, say, Cal vs UCLA, given that the latter also qualifies as being in the Big10??

Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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8-5, including a bowl game win over a former P12 team (Arizona in the Sun Bowl? USC in the Alamo? Colonel Mustard in the Library?)

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I believe that for the next season or two, the bowl games with a past PAC-12 affiliation will continue to invite teams that had been in the PAC-12 (including Oregon State and Washington State). So, it's very unlikely that two former Pac-12 teams will meet in a bowl game unless it's in the Playoffs. Most of the early bowl game projections I've seen have Cal in the Los Angeles Bowl against Boise State or Fresno State.

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Let's say a bowl game has secured the right to match up a Big10 team vs a former Pac12, what would prevent it from picking, say, Cal vs UCLA, given that the latter also qualifies as being in the Big10??

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The bowls agreed amongst themselves that, for this season and next, ex-Pac teams would be selected to fill Pac-12 bowl places rather than their new conference's bowl places.

It is theoretically possible that two bowls could agree to swap teams and create a Pac v Pac matchup, but that is what would have to happen. (Example: Independence Bowl is contracted to pair Army and a Pac-12 team, and LA Bowl is supposed to pair a MWC team and a Pac-12 team. The bowls could agree to swap the MWC team into the Independence Bowl and put two ex-Pac teams in the LA bowl.)

Oakbear said:

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Cal 4-8

Even i am not that pessimistic

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I do fear that this team might struggle on these new, long road trips, but feel that they are more likely to win 5-7 games this season than just 4.

GoCal80 said:

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Oakbear said:

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Cal 4-8

Even i am not that pessimistic

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I do fear that this team might struggle on these new, long road trips, but feel that they are more likely to win 5-7 games this season than just 4.

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fav: ucd, sdu, osu, wf, cuse, furd
t/u: pitt (+),ncs, SMU (-)
ud: aub, fsu, the u.

Cal: 7-5

Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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8-5, including a bowl game win over a former P12 team (Arizona in the Sun Bowl? USC in the Alamo? Colonel Mustard in the Library?)

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I believe that for the next season or two, the bowl games with a past PAC-12 affiliation will continue to invite teams that had been in the PAC-12 (including Oregon State and Washington State). So, it's very unlikely that two former Pac-12 teams will meet in a bowl game unless it's in the Playoffs. Most of the early bowl game projections I've seen have Cal in the Los Angeles Bowl against Boise State or Fresno State.

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Let's say a bowl game has secured the right to match up a Big10 team vs a former Pac12, what would prevent it from picking, say, Cal vs UCLA, given that the latter also qualifies as being in the Big10??

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For the purposes of this bowl season (and next?), except for the CFP, we will all pretend like the PAC-12 continued. So former PAC-12 will only fill PAC-12 contracted slots and cannot play former PAC-12 in the non-CFP bowls. However, I also think the bowls will avoid matching up a former PAC-12 team with a current conference member, so Cal won't be selected for a matchup that is PAC-12 vs ACC, for example.

Until Cal wins more, this is what to expect.

Rushinbear said:

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GoCal80 said:

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Oakbear said:

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Cal 4-8

Even i am not that pessimistic

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I do fear that this team might struggle on these new, long road trips, but feel that they are more likely to win 5-7 games this season than just 4.

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fav: ucd, sdu, osu, wf, cuse, furd
t/u: pitt (+),ncs, SMU (-)
ud: aub, fsu, the u.

Cal: 7-5

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Yeah 5 to 8 wins seems to be the reasonable range. 8 would be good heading into next year's easier schedule, 5 would be a disaster. 6 or 7 seems most likely, with Cal fans leaning on 7 as "reasonably optimistic."

calumnus said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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8-5, including a bowl game win over a former P12 team (Arizona in the Sun Bowl? USC in the Alamo? Colonel Mustard in the Library?)

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I believe that for the next season or two, the bowl games with a past PAC-12 affiliation will continue to invite teams that had been in the PAC-12 (including Oregon State and Washington State). So, it's very unlikely that two former Pac-12 teams will meet in a bowl game unless it's in the Playoffs. Most of the early bowl game projections I've seen have Cal in the Los Angeles Bowl against Boise State or Fresno State.

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Let's say a bowl game has secured the right to match up a Big10 team vs a former Pac12, what would prevent it from picking, say, Cal vs UCLA, given that the latter also qualifies as being in the Big10??

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For the purposes of this bowl season (and next?), except for the CFP, we will all pretend like the PAC-12 continued. So former PAC-12 will only fill PAC-12 contracted slots and cannot play former PAC-12 in the non-CFP bowls. However, I also think the bowls will avoid matching up a former PAC-12 team with a current conference member, so Cal won't be selected for a matchup that is PAC-12 vs ACC, for example.

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Thing is, an all ex-Pac12 matchup from different post-realignment conferences makes the most sense for a western bowl, there is a lot of interest for these matchups among the P12 fan bases as well as the local CF fans. I wonder if there is some room for trading between bowls Monopoly-style.

I also wonder if down the road the ACC will end up picking up some of the ex-P12 designated bowls due to the presence of 2 CA and one TX team. Here are the current lineups:


Pac-12 Bowl Ties, Affiliations
The Pac-12 might be gone, resting, or rehabbing, but in the meantime, all of these bowls are still in play for the former member schools in other conferences, along with Oregon State and Washington State.

Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, and Washington will all be eligible for these bowls.

- Holiday Bowl vs ACC
- LA Bowl vs Mountain West
- Las Vegas Bowl vs SEC
- Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl vs Big 12
- Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs ACC
- Valero Alamo Bowl vs Big 12


ACC Bowl Ties, Affiliations
The ACC Champion will almost certainly be in the College Football Playoff and likely get a first round bye. After that, it's all determined on how many other ACC teams get into the expanded CFP.

As always, this will be be based on geography and best matchups. The conference vs conference tie-ins can be changed based on availability. If at all possible, repeat appearances from the previous season will try to be avoided.

Notre Dame is eligible for any of the ACC's bowl slots. There isn't a true pecking order here.

The former Pac-12 teams - Cal and Stanford - will remain eligible for the former Pac-12 bowl ties and affiliations. That means if any of those four aren't in the College Football Playoff, they'll be eligible for the Alamo, Independence, Holiday, LA, Las Vegas, and Sun bowls.

- Duke's Mayo Bowl vs Big Ten
- Fenway Bowl vs American Athletic
- Holiday Bowl vs TBD (it used to be the Pac-12)
- Go Bowling Military Bowl vs American Athletic
- Pinstripe Bowl vs Big Ten
- Pop-Tarts Bowl vs Big 12
- ReliaQuest Bowl vs SEC (or Big Ten)
- TaxSlayer Gator Bowl vs SEC
- Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs TBD (it used to be the Pac-12)

Alternate Affiliations, if available
- Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl vs AAC or SEC
- 76 Birmingham Bowl vs SEC or AAC
- SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs SEC or AAC


Right now, I see only 2 western bowl locations in the ACC slate, the Sun and the Holiday.

Cal88 said:

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calumnus said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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8-5, including a bowl game win over a former P12 team (Arizona in the Sun Bowl? USC in the Alamo? Colonel Mustard in the Library?)

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I believe that for the next season or two, the bowl games with a past PAC-12 affiliation will continue to invite teams that had been in the PAC-12 (including Oregon State and Washington State). So, it's very unlikely that two former Pac-12 teams will meet in a bowl game unless it's in the Playoffs. Most of the early bowl game projections I've seen have Cal in the Los Angeles Bowl against Boise State or Fresno State.

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Let's say a bowl game has secured the right to match up a Big10 team vs a former Pac12, what would prevent it from picking, say, Cal vs UCLA, given that the latter also qualifies as being in the Big10??

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For the purposes of this bowl season (and next?), except for the CFP, we will all pretend like the PAC-12 continued. So former PAC-12 will only fill PAC-12 contracted slots and cannot play former PAC-12 in the non-CFP bowls. However, I also think the bowls will avoid matching up a former PAC-12 team with a current conference member, so Cal won't be selected for a matchup that is PAC-12 vs ACC, for example.

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Thing is, an all ex-Pac12 matchup from different post-realignment conferences makes the most sense for a western bowl, there is a lot of interest for these matchups among the P12 fan bases as well as the local CF fans. I wonder if there is some room for trading between bowls Monopoly-style.

I also wonder if down the road the ACC will end up picking up some of the ex-P12 designated bowls due to the presence of 2 CA and one TX team. Here are the current lineups:


Pac-12 Bowl Ties, Affiliations
The Pac-12 might be gone, resting, or rehabbing, but in the meantime, all of these bowls are still in play for the former member schools in other conferences, along with Oregon State and Washington State.

Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, and Washington will all be eligible for these bowls.

- Holiday Bowl vs ACC
- LA Bowl vs Mountain West
- Las Vegas Bowl vs SEC
- Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl vs Big 12
- Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs ACC
- Valero Alamo Bowl vs Big 12


ACC Bowl Ties, Affiliations
The ACC Champion will almost certainly be in the College Football Playoff and likely get a first round bye. After that, it's all determined on how many other ACC teams get into the expanded CFP.

As always, this will be be based on geography and best matchups. The conference vs conference tie-ins can be changed based on availability. If at all possible, repeat appearances from the previous season will try to be avoided.

Notre Dame is eligible for any of the ACC's bowl slots. There isn't a true pecking order here.

The former Pac-12 teams - Cal and Stanford - will remain eligible for the former Pac-12 bowl ties and affiliations. That means if any of those four aren't in the College Football Playoff, they'll be eligible for the Alamo, Independence, Holiday, LA, Las Vegas, and Sun bowls.

- Duke's Mayo Bowl vs Big Ten
- Fenway Bowl vs American Athletic
- Holiday Bowl vs TBD (it used to be the Pac-12)
- Go Bowling Military Bowl vs American Athletic
- Pinstripe Bowl vs Big Ten
- Pop-Tarts Bowl vs Big 12
- ReliaQuest Bowl vs SEC (or Big Ten)
- TaxSlayer Gator Bowl vs SEC
- Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs TBD (it used to be the Pac-12)

Alternate Affiliations, if available
- Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl vs AAC or SEC
- 76 Birmingham Bowl vs SEC or AAC
- SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs SEC or AAC


Right now, I see only 2 western bowl locations in the ACC slate, the Sun and the Holiday.

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That is why Vegas, LA, independence and Alamo are Cal's likely bowls, assuming we are eligible.

There may be a theoretical outcome where, at the extreme, all the former PAC-12 teams are bowl eligible and as a result, not enough of their new conference mates are. In that case, maybe you could get a former PAC-12 vs former PAC-12 matchup?

calumnus said:

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Cal88 said:

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calumnus said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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8-5, including a bowl game win over a former P12 team (Arizona in the Sun Bowl? USC in the Alamo? Colonel Mustard in the Library?)

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I believe that for the next season or two, the bowl games with a past PAC-12 affiliation will continue to invite teams that had been in the PAC-12 (including Oregon State and Washington State). So, it's very unlikely that two former Pac-12 teams will meet in a bowl game unless it's in the Playoffs. Most of the early bowl game projections I've seen have Cal in the Los Angeles Bowl against Boise State or Fresno State.

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Let's say a bowl game has secured the right to match up a Big10 team vs a former Pac12, what would prevent it from picking, say, Cal vs UCLA, given that the latter also qualifies as being in the Big10??

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For the purposes of this bowl season (and next?), except for the CFP, we will all pretend like the PAC-12 continued. So former PAC-12 will only fill PAC-12 contracted slots and cannot play former PAC-12 in the non-CFP bowls. However, I also think the bowls will avoid matching up a former PAC-12 team with a current conference member, so Cal won't be selected for a matchup that is PAC-12 vs ACC, for example.

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Thing is, an all ex-Pac12 matchup from different post-realignment conferences makes the most sense for a western bowl, there is a lot of interest for these matchups among the P12 fan bases as well as the local CF fans. I wonder if there is some room for trading between bowls Monopoly-style.

I also wonder if down the road the ACC will end up picking up some of the ex-P12 designated bowls due to the presence of 2 CA and one TX team. Here are the current lineups:


Pac-12 Bowl Ties, Affiliations
The Pac-12 might be gone, resting, or rehabbing, but in the meantime, all of these bowls are still in play for the former member schools in other conferences, along with Oregon State and Washington State.

Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, and Washington will all be eligible for these bowls.

- Holiday Bowl vs ACC
- LA Bowl vs Mountain West
- Las Vegas Bowl vs SEC
- Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl vs Big 12
- Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs ACC
- Valero Alamo Bowl vs Big 12


ACC Bowl Ties, Affiliations
The ACC Champion will almost certainly be in the College Football Playoff and likely get a first round bye. After that, it's all determined on how many other ACC teams get into the expanded CFP.

As always, this will be be based on geography and best matchups. The conference vs conference tie-ins can be changed based on availability. If at all possible, repeat appearances from the previous season will try to be avoided.

Notre Dame is eligible for any of the ACC's bowl slots. There isn't a true pecking order here.

The former Pac-12 teams - Cal and Stanford - will remain eligible for the former Pac-12 bowl ties and affiliations. That means if any of those four aren't in the College Football Playoff, they'll be eligible for the Alamo, Independence, Holiday, LA, Las Vegas, and Sun bowls.

- Duke's Mayo Bowl vs Big Ten
- Fenway Bowl vs American Athletic
- Holiday Bowl vs TBD (it used to be the Pac-12)
- Go Bowling Military Bowl vs American Athletic
- Pinstripe Bowl vs Big Ten
- Pop-Tarts Bowl vs Big 12
- ReliaQuest Bowl vs SEC (or Big Ten)
- TaxSlayer Gator Bowl vs SEC
- Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs TBD (it used to be the Pac-12)

Alternate Affiliations, if available
- Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl vs AAC or SEC
- 76 Birmingham Bowl vs SEC or AAC
- SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs SEC or AAC


Right now, I see only 2 western bowl locations in the ACC slate, the Sun and the Holiday.

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That is why Vegas, LA, independence and Alamo are Cal's likely bowls, assuming we are eligible.

There may be a theoretical outcome where, at the extreme, all the former PAC-12 teams are bowl eligible and as a result, not enough of their new conference mates are. In that case, maybe you could get a former PAC-12 vs former PAC-12 matchup?

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And once the Pac12 official ties are over in 2 years, the bowl game matchups in the western half will start to look like a Pac12 mid-season slate...

We are predicted to go to the LA Bowl! Hopefully, Gronk hosts it again!

https://www.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/40846929/2024-college-football-preseason-bowl-projections-12-team-playoff

Cal88 said:

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calumnus said:

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Cal88 said:

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calumnus said:

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Cal88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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8-5, including a bowl game win over a former P12 team (Arizona in the Sun Bowl? USC in the Alamo? Colonel Mustard in the Library?)

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I believe that for the next season or two, the bowl games with a past PAC-12 affiliation will continue to invite teams that had been in the PAC-12 (including Oregon State and Washington State). So, it's very unlikely that two former Pac-12 teams will meet in a bowl game unless it's in the Playoffs. Most of the early bowl game projections I've seen have Cal in the Los Angeles Bowl against Boise State or Fresno State.

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Let's say a bowl game has secured the right to match up a Big10 team vs a former Pac12, what would prevent it from picking, say, Cal vs UCLA, given that the latter also qualifies as being in the Big10??

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For the purposes of this bowl season (and next?), except for the CFP, we will all pretend like the PAC-12 continued. So former PAC-12 will only fill PAC-12 contracted slots and cannot play former PAC-12 in the non-CFP bowls. However, I also think the bowls will avoid matching up a former PAC-12 team with a current conference member, so Cal won't be selected for a matchup that is PAC-12 vs ACC, for example.

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Thing is, an all ex-Pac12 matchup from different post-realignment conferences makes the most sense for a western bowl, there is a lot of interest for these matchups among the P12 fan bases as well as the local CF fans. I wonder if there is some room for trading between bowls Monopoly-style.

I also wonder if down the road the ACC will end up picking up some of the ex-P12 designated bowls due to the presence of 2 CA and one TX team. Here are the current lineups:


Pac-12 Bowl Ties, Affiliations
The Pac-12 might be gone, resting, or rehabbing, but in the meantime, all of these bowls are still in play for the former member schools in other conferences, along with Oregon State and Washington State.

Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, and Washington will all be eligible for these bowls.

- Holiday Bowl vs ACC
- LA Bowl vs Mountain West
- Las Vegas Bowl vs SEC
- Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl vs Big 12
- Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs ACC
- Valero Alamo Bowl vs Big 12


ACC Bowl Ties, Affiliations
The ACC Champion will almost certainly be in the College Football Playoff and likely get a first round bye. After that, it's all determined on how many other ACC teams get into the expanded CFP.

As always, this will be be based on geography and best matchups. The conference vs conference tie-ins can be changed based on availability. If at all possible, repeat appearances from the previous season will try to be avoided.

Notre Dame is eligible for any of the ACC's bowl slots. There isn't a true pecking order here.

The former Pac-12 teams - Cal and Stanford - will remain eligible for the former Pac-12 bowl ties and affiliations. That means if any of those four aren't in the College Football Playoff, they'll be eligible for the Alamo, Independence, Holiday, LA, Las Vegas, and Sun bowls.

- Duke's Mayo Bowl vs Big Ten
- Fenway Bowl vs American Athletic
- Holiday Bowl vs TBD (it used to be the Pac-12)
- Go Bowling Military Bowl vs American Athletic
- Pinstripe Bowl vs Big Ten
- Pop-Tarts Bowl vs Big 12
- ReliaQuest Bowl vs SEC (or Big Ten)
- TaxSlayer Gator Bowl vs SEC
- Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs TBD (it used to be the Pac-12)

Alternate Affiliations, if available
- Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl vs AAC or SEC
- 76 Birmingham Bowl vs SEC or AAC
- SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs SEC or AAC


Right now, I see only 2 western bowl locations in the ACC slate, the Sun and the Holiday.

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That is why Vegas, LA, independence and Alamo are Cal's likely bowls, assuming we are eligible.

There may be a theoretical outcome where, at the extreme, all the former PAC-12 teams are bowl eligible and as a result, not enough of their new conference mates are. In that case, maybe you could get a former PAC-12 vs former PAC-12 matchup?

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And once the Pac12 official ties are over in 2 years, the bowl game matchups in the western half will start to look like a Pac12 mid-season slate...

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Yes, that could very well happen. And by then I think we will relish such a matchup.

fair predictions here

After watching FSU lay an egg, I'm calling it...Cal in the ACC title game with Ott in the stiff arm trophy contention.

Oakbear said:

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Cal 4-8

Even i am not that pessimistic

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Blueblood: I'm going out on a limb and say 7-5 this year.

Me: Blue, there's a 12 out of 13 chance you're wrong.

Pretty much as expected.

calbear80 said:

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My heart says 12-0, but my brain says 6-6.

Go Bears!

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Congrats. You get a gold star.