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— Alex Morgan (@alexmorgan13) September 5, 2024
westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
GMP said:calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
Sports are not a charity.
Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
As I said players like her given her history change the team spirit, even if she was a bench player. Would not have been good.01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
Well said GMP.GMP said:01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
Let's say she takes the final bench spot. You now have an undeserving US legend on the bench. And what happens when that occurs? Either (1) the legend pouts and whines about not getting playing time, which distracts the team from the goal or (2) the fans and media whine about the legend not getting playing time and create a circus around the team that distracts them from the goal, or (3) both of the above, or (4) she quietly sits on the bench, taking a spot from someone else - someone who perhaps it was their only shot at being on an Olympic or World Cup team.
The simple fact is she is no longer good enough and showed that at the last World Cup. She had a great career and she should be proud of it.
Meanwhile, the young guard took over, free from distraction, and began setting its own legacy.
We certainly saw scenario 2 occur with the MBB team that won a gold medal. Lots of vocal fans/media personalities were angry with Coach Kerr for not playing Tatum in multiple games.GMP said:01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
Let's say she takes the final bench spot. You now have an undeserving US legend on the bench. And what happens when that occurs? Either (1) the legend pouts and whines about not getting playing time, which distracts the team from the goal or (2) the fans and media whine about the legend not getting playing time and create a circus around the team that distracts them from the goal, or (3) both of the above, or (4) she quietly sits on the bench, taking a spot from someone else - someone who perhaps it was their only shot at being on an Olympic or World Cup team.
The simple fact is she is no longer good enough and showed that at the last World Cup. She had a great career and she should be proud of it.
Meanwhile, the young guard took over, free from distraction, and began setting its own legacy.
philbert said:We certainly saw scenario 2 occur with the MBB team that won a gold medal. Lots of vocal fans/media personalities were angry with Coach Kerr for not playing Tatum in multiple games.GMP said:01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
Let's say she takes the final bench spot. You now have an undeserving US legend on the bench. And what happens when that occurs? Either (1) the legend pouts and whines about not getting playing time, which distracts the team from the goal or (2) the fans and media whine about the legend not getting playing time and create a circus around the team that distracts them from the goal, or (3) both of the above, or (4) she quietly sits on the bench, taking a spot from someone else - someone who perhaps it was their only shot at being on an Olympic or World Cup team.
The simple fact is she is no longer good enough and showed that at the last World Cup. She had a great career and she should be proud of it.
Meanwhile, the young guard took over, free from distraction, and began setting its own legacy.
agree.Cal88 said:GMP said:calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
Sports are not a charity.
Pro sports are a business, driven by personalities
In this case I would argue Clark would have affected the chemistry which would not have been good Also this team didn't need to find a new core of players. Since a past star was part of the existing core she still fit in the team.HoopDreams said:agree.Cal88 said:GMP said:calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
Sports are not a charity.
Pro sports are a business, driven by personalities
the WNBA had no problem putting a past star on the olympic team (although they should have put Caitlin Clark on the team instead if they wanted to increase attendance and viewship)
people forget sports is an entertainment business
GMP said:01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
Let's say she takes the final bench spot. You now have an undeserving US legend on the bench. And what happens when that occurs? Either (1) the legend pouts and whines about not getting playing time, which distracts the team from the goal or (2) the fans and media whine about the legend not getting playing time and create a circus around the team that distracts them from the goal, or (3) both of the above, or (4) she quietly sits on the bench, taking a spot from someone else - someone who perhaps it was their only shot at being on an Olympic or World Cup team.
The simple fact is she is no longer good enough and showed that at the last World Cup. She had a great career and she should be proud of it.
Meanwhile, the young guard took over, free from distraction, and began setting its own legacy.
There were complicated reasons not to choose her that could be debated. The simple reason was that there were only 18 spots. With two goalies, that is 16 field players. The current rules allow 5 subs, 6 if there is extra time. This means that all but one field player would play in a standard game if all subs were used, as is typical, and every player would typically play in an extra time game. There was no end of the bench for ceremonial players because every player was crucial. The US can no longer coast on talent. The games were competitive and close.GMP said:01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
Let's say she takes the final bench spot. You now have an undeserving US legend on the bench. And what happens when that occurs? Either (1) the legend pouts and whines about not getting playing time, which distracts the team from the goal or (2) the fans and media whine about the legend not getting playing time and create a circus around the team that distracts them from the goal, or (3) both of the above, or (4) she quietly sits on the bench, taking a spot from someone else - someone who perhaps it was their only shot at being on an Olympic or World Cup team.
The simple fact is she is no longer good enough and showed that at the last World Cup. She had a great career and she should be proud of it.
Meanwhile, the young guard took over, free from distraction, and began setting its own legacy.
Alex Morgan's final game will now be on national television, simulcast across CBS Sports Network, Paramount+, NWSL+, Prime Video, ESPN2 and ESPN+, the first time multiple media companies will broadcast a women’s sporting event at the same time https://t.co/k4teI83QQN
— mollie cahillane (@MollieCahillane) September 6, 2024
philbert said:We certainly saw scenario 2 occur with the MBB team that won a gold medal. Lots of vocal fans/media personalities were angry with Coach Kerr for not playing Tatum in multiple games.GMP said:01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
Let's say she takes the final bench spot. You now have an undeserving US legend on the bench. And what happens when that occurs? Either (1) the legend pouts and whines about not getting playing time, which distracts the team from the goal or (2) the fans and media whine about the legend not getting playing time and create a circus around the team that distracts them from the goal, or (3) both of the above, or (4) she quietly sits on the bench, taking a spot from someone else - someone who perhaps it was their only shot at being on an Olympic or World Cup team.
The simple fact is she is no longer good enough and showed that at the last World Cup. She had a great career and she should be proud of it.
Meanwhile, the young guard took over, free from distraction, and began setting its own legacy.
Tatum is a great player. In those matchups against big teams in the medal rounds, would you have been satisfied if they gave him token minutes? If not, are you playing him over KD or Lebron? Because that's where most of his minutes would have had to come from.dimitrig said:philbert said:We certainly saw scenario 2 occur with the MBB team that won a gold medal. Lots of vocal fans/media personalities were angry with Coach Kerr for not playing Tatum in multiple games.GMP said:01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
Let's say she takes the final bench spot. You now have an undeserving US legend on the bench. And what happens when that occurs? Either (1) the legend pouts and whines about not getting playing time, which distracts the team from the goal or (2) the fans and media whine about the legend not getting playing time and create a circus around the team that distracts them from the goal, or (3) both of the above, or (4) she quietly sits on the bench, taking a spot from someone else - someone who perhaps it was their only shot at being on an Olympic or World Cup team.
The simple fact is she is no longer good enough and showed that at the last World Cup. She had a great career and she should be proud of it.
Meanwhile, the young guard took over, free from distraction, and began setting its own legacy.
Except Tatum is one of the best players in the NBA and in his prime.
I agree but will go a bit further. The older core players had cultivated a really bad culture which tended to emphasize individual over team, mixed in with a bit of arrogance/hubris and far too much focus on off field issues. Morgan was a captain/leader on that team and if you want to change the culture, you need to make hard choices.Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
philbert said:Tatum is a great player. In those matchups against big teams in the medal rounds, would you have been satisfied if they gave him token minutes? If not, are you playing him over KD or Lebron? Because that's where most of his minutes would have had to come from.dimitrig said:philbert said:We certainly saw scenario 2 occur with the MBB team that won a gold medal. Lots of vocal fans/media personalities were angry with Coach Kerr for not playing Tatum in multiple games.GMP said:01Bear said:Goobear said:The US team needed a new identity. The older players were too old and not good enough but still would have changed the team spirit given their history. You could see this team was tight. Since the US team won one cannot argue with the approach taken. I thought Morgan lost a step and accuracy last time on the national team. She has had a remarkable career but too old to do anything. Father Time caught up with her as it does with everyone at one point.01Bear said:BearGoggles said:Which more deserving player should she have replaced?calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
That's a good argument. But at the same time, just about any bench player could've been replaced and no one would've blinked an eye. Alex Morgan is (still!) one of the big names/draws in US women's soccer. Allowing her one last hurrah would've been to everyone's benefit.
Sure, all true. But again, would anyone have considered anything amiss if she took the final spot on the bench?
Let's say she takes the final bench spot. You now have an undeserving US legend on the bench. And what happens when that occurs? Either (1) the legend pouts and whines about not getting playing time, which distracts the team from the goal or (2) the fans and media whine about the legend not getting playing time and create a circus around the team that distracts them from the goal, or (3) both of the above, or (4) she quietly sits on the bench, taking a spot from someone else - someone who perhaps it was their only shot at being on an Olympic or World Cup team.
The simple fact is she is no longer good enough and showed that at the last World Cup. She had a great career and she should be proud of it.
Meanwhile, the young guard took over, free from distraction, and began setting its own legacy.
Except Tatum is one of the best players in the NBA and in his prime.
If Tatum plays in 2028, he will be one of the leaders and play a ton.
Totally disagree. Watching her over the last two years, she was completely ineffective. Her threat at goal had evaporated at that point. She lacked speed and aggressiveness on the ball. Was never in a good attacking position and always behind the plays. USWNT has a BUNCH of younger, faster and more aggressive offensive players at their disposal. Let the new generation take over.Cal88 said:
Probably could have used her as an experienced striker sub too.
calbear80 said:westcoast101 said:
Heck of a player for Cal, club, and country. Congrats on a great career and baby #2!
+1
The USWNT coach should have included Alex Morgan in the Olympic roster to allow her to leave the game the way she deserves to.
Thank you for absolutely everything, Alex Morgan. pic.twitter.com/mIKaOS6Bkx
— National Women’s Soccer League (@NWSL) September 9, 2024
