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01Bear
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sycasey said:

Well . . . does anyone still think the Calgorithm was a bad thing?



*sigh* It was never the Calgorithm with which I had issue. It was the memes belittling FSU's team and those memes that made (unwarranted) claims about Cal's football team being superior to FSU's before they'd even played that were my points of contention. But in this post-Trump world, I guess it makes sense that some people would cling to "alternative facts."
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01Bear said:

sycasey said:

Well . . . does anyone still think the Calgorithm was a bad thing?



*sigh* It was never the Calgorithm with which I had issue. It was the memes belittling FSU's team and those memes that made (unwarranted) claims about Cal's football team being superior to FSU's before they'd even played that were my points of contention. But in this post-Trump world, I guess it makes sense that some people would cling to "alternative facts."


Curious, are you 1901 bear or 2001 bear?
Cal88
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He is 2101 Bear, coming from the future to warn us about counterproductive online activity.
sycasey
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01Bear said:

sycasey said:

Well . . . does anyone still think the Calgorithm was a bad thing?



*sigh* It was never the Calgorithm with which I had issue. It was the memes belittling FSU's team and those memes that made (unwarranted) claims about Cal's football team being superior to FSU's before they'd even played that were my points of contention. But in this post-Trump world, I guess it makes sense that some people would cling to "alternative facts."

Well, your further argument was that this would cause Cal to "faceplant" against FSU because we provided them with so much extra motivation, and that this would then derail all the positive momentum for the program.

Except Cal did lose to FSU and is now getting College GameDay to come out anyway. Doesn't seem like the momentum was hurt very much!
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The #calgorithm only outputs field goals
The #calgorithm says false starts are to be expected
The #calgorithm only runs up the middle
The #calgorithm says QBs should be mobile enough to not need more then half a second of protection.

the #calgorithm can only output based on inputs
GIGO
ROYB!
01Bear
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sycasey said:

01Bear said:

sycasey said:

Well . . . does anyone still think the Calgorithm was a bad thing?



*sigh* It was never the Calgorithm with which I had issue. It was the memes belittling FSU's team and those memes that made (unwarranted) claims about Cal's football team being superior to FSU's before they'd even played that were my points of contention. But in this post-Trump world, I guess it makes sense that some people would cling to "alternative facts."

Well, your further argument was that this would cause Cal to "faceplant" against FSU because we provided them with so much extra motivation, and that this would then derail all the positive momentum for the program.

Except Cal did lose to FSU and is now getting College GameDay to come out anyway. Doesn't seem like the momentum was hurt very much!

The momentum you're seeing isn't what I mentioned in my posts. I specifically referred to the team's momentum. Cal was building steam and winning games; if it kept its head on straight and its nose to the grindstone, that would've bred more success and wins. But nope, Cal faceplanted. This is what I warned against. Again, we've seen this play out time and again with Cal. This wasn't unexpected.
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01Bear said:

sycasey said:

01Bear said:

sycasey said:

Well . . . does anyone still think the Calgorithm was a bad thing?



*sigh* It was never the Calgorithm with which I had issue. It was the memes belittling FSU's team and those memes that made (unwarranted) claims about Cal's football team being superior to FSU's before they'd even played that were my points of contention. But in this post-Trump world, I guess it makes sense that some people would cling to "alternative facts."

Well, your further argument was that this would cause Cal to "faceplant" against FSU because we provided them with so much extra motivation, and that this would then derail all the positive momentum for the program.

Except Cal did lose to FSU and is now getting College GameDay to come out anyway. Doesn't seem like the momentum was hurt very much!

The momentum you're seeing isn't what I mentioned in my posts. I specifically referred to the team's momentum. Cal was building steam and winning games; if it kept its head on straight and its nose to the grindstone, that would've bred more success and wins. But nope, Cal faceplanted. This is what I warned against. Again, we've seen this play out time and again with Cal. This wasn't unexpected.
By this logic, getting ESPN to come out and hype us up before the Miami game should be even worse for the team. Cancel GameDay!
Anarchistbear
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Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.
01Bear
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sycasey said:

01Bear said:

sycasey said:

01Bear said:

sycasey said:

Well . . . does anyone still think the Calgorithm was a bad thing?



*sigh* It was never the Calgorithm with which I had issue. It was the memes belittling FSU's team and those memes that made (unwarranted) claims about Cal's football team being superior to FSU's before they'd even played that were my points of contention. But in this post-Trump world, I guess it makes sense that some people would cling to "alternative facts."

Well, your further argument was that this would cause Cal to "faceplant" against FSU because we provided them with so much extra motivation, and that this would then derail all the positive momentum for the program.

Except Cal did lose to FSU and is now getting College GameDay to come out anyway. Doesn't seem like the momentum was hurt very much!

The momentum you're seeing isn't what I mentioned in my posts. I specifically referred to the team's momentum. Cal was building steam and winning games; if it kept its head on straight and its nose to the grindstone, that would've bred more success and wins. But nope, Cal faceplanted. This is what I warned against. Again, we've seen this play out time and again with Cal. This wasn't unexpected.
By this logic, getting ESPN to come out and hype us up before the Miami game should be even worse for the team. Cancel GameDay!

You're conflating the arguments again. I don't know if it's intentional or if you really don't understand the difference. Assuming you're not trolling and just truly not getting it, let me lay it out in simple terms:
1) Memes about Cal football lampooning Cal/Berkeley's perceived stereotypes = funny
2) Memes belittling FSU's football team/players = foolish
3) Memes looking past FSU and proclaiming Cal victors before the game even kicked off = foolish
4) The college football world getting excited about Cal football = excellent
5) Cal football players and coaches believing the hype about the team in the foolish memes (see #2 and #3 above) = bad
6) Cal football faceplanting due to hubris from the foolish memes (and also goving FSU extra motivation to beat Cal) = bad but probable (based on history)
7) Cal football building on positive momentum to turn around program = wonderful
8) Cal football faceplant destroying momentum (see #8 above) = horrible

Gameday at Cal adds to #4. That's excellent.
01Bear
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Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.
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01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


Nobody knows, we weren't there. More likely, our leadership- coaches and players- sucked
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01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


I don't know how you can watch that game against Florida State and see an overconfident team and I don't know how you can think it was because of memes.
01Bear
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Anarchistbear said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


Nobody knows, we weren't there. More likely, our leadership- coaches and players- sucked

I don't blame the players; they gave their all. The coaches let them down and didn't prepare them properly.
01Bear
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LessMilesMoreTedford said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


I don't know how you can watch that game against Florida State and see an overconfident team and I don't know how you can think it was because of memes.

I took Cal's lack of a sense of urgency and hunger during the game as proof of the hubris I feared.
Anarchistbear
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01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


Nobody knows, we weren't there. More likely, our leadership- coaches and players- sucked

I don't blame the players; they gave their all. The coaches let them down and didn't prepare them properly.


They were terrible, flat and dumb. Players have a responsibility to execute and self- motivate. They did neither
01Bear
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Anarchistbear said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


Nobody knows, we weren't there. More likely, our leadership- coaches and players- sucked

I don't blame the players; they gave their all. The coaches let them down and didn't prepare them properly.


They were terrible, flat and dumb. Players have a responsibility to execute and self- motivate. They did neither

It's the coaches' job (literally, as this is why they're being paid) to prepare the players and put them in a position to win, which includes motivating them.
Anarchistbear
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01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


Nobody knows, we weren't there. More likely, our leadership- coaches and players- sucked

I don't blame the players; they gave their all. The coaches let them down and didn't prepare them properly.


They were terrible, flat and dumb. Players have a responsibility to execute and self- motivate. They did neither

It's the coaches' job (literally, as this is why they're being paid) to prepare the players and put them in a position to win, which includes motivating them.


Players have leadership responsibilities- there are captains and senior leadership . They aren't robots, they have a responsibility to practice, execute, motivate and inspire each others. Cal's NIL efforts have also been successful, so some are also compensated to do this. Both coaches and the team crapped the bed
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You guys fired up for Game Day? Or are you going to stay in reality and be miserable? GO BEARS!!!
01Bear
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Anarchistbear said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


Nobody knows, we weren't there. More likely, our leadership- coaches and players- sucked

I don't blame the players; they gave their all. The coaches let them down and didn't prepare them properly.


They were terrible, flat and dumb. Players have a responsibility to execute and self- motivate. They did neither

It's the coaches' job (literally, as this is why they're being paid) to prepare the players and put them in a position to win, which includes motivating them.


Players have leadership responsibilities- there are captains and senior leadership . They aren't robots, they have a responsibility to practice, execute, motivate and inspire each others. Cal's NIL efforts have also been successful, so some are also compensated to do this. Both coaches and the team crapped the bed


I hear what you're saying about the players, but at the end of the day, they're not the ones receiving millions to prepare the team. They're not the ones who choose what schemes to run or who scout the opposition. They're not the adults who are supposed to be level headed and see the bigger picture. The buck has to stop with the coaches in college. as they're the ones receiving the big paydays.
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IMO, highly-compensated players are no longer just student-athletes in my eyes. This has now become a serious job with actual expectations. The bar is much higher in terms of expectations.
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01Bear said:

LessMilesMoreTedford said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


I don't know how you can watch that game against Florida State and see an overconfident team and I don't know how you can think it was because of memes.

I took Cal's lack of a sense of urgency and hunger during the game as proof of the hubris I feared.

You are absolutely right. Until the Calgorithm came around, Cal had never come out flat in a big moment. Clear evidence.
01Bear
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SLTX Bear said:

01Bear said:

LessMilesMoreTedford said:

01Bear said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal had much more "bulletin board" material than FSU. FSU was a "football powerhouse" that voted against Cal's admission to the conference. And here was Cal playing before a full house against an opponent that thought them unworthy; in their first conference game.

Except Cal bought into the hype about how it was so much better than FSU and how it had already anointed the winner before the game had been played.


I don't know how you can watch that game against Florida State and see an overconfident team and I don't know how you can think it was because of memes.

I took Cal's lack of a sense of urgency and hunger during the game as proof of the hubris I feared.

You are absolutely right. Until the Calgorithm came around, Cal had never come out flat in a big moment. Clear evidence.

Allow me to quote myself from before:
01Bear said:


You're conflating the arguments again. I don't know if it's intentional or if you really don't understand the difference. Assuming you're not trolling and just truly not getting it, let me lay it out in simple terms:
1) Memes about Cal football lampooning Cal/Berkeley's perceived stereotypes = funny
2) Memes belittling FSU's football team/players = foolish
3) Memes looking past FSU and proclaiming Cal victors before the game even kicked off = foolish
4) The college football world getting excited about Cal football = excellent
5) Cal football players and coaches believing the hype about the team in the foolish memes (see #2 and #3 above) = bad
6) Cal football faceplanting due to hubris from the foolish memes (and also goving FSU extra motivation to beat Cal) = bad but probable (based on history)
7) Cal football building on positive momentum to turn around program = wonderful
8) Cal football faceplant destroying momentum (see #8 above) = horrible

Gameday at Cal adds to #4. That's excellent.

The problem was not the Calgorithm. The Calgorithm, as part of #1 was hilarious. The Calgorithm contributing to #4 was excellent! The problem was #5 and #6. Cal has suffered from this feet of clay in the past. It's why I feared it would happen again this time. From what I saw on the 21st, history repeated itself.
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Whoops. Wrong thread.
bear2034
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Cal Twitter should blow up the non-targetting call.
sycasey
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bear2034 said:


Cal Twitter should blow up the non-targetting call.

Honestly, they don't need to. All of the college football accounts were complaining about it.
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:


Cal Twitter should blow up the non-targetting call.
Honestly, they don't need to. All of the college football accounts were complaining about it.
Yeah that was trending and not just because of Cal folks tweeting
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

Cal Twitter should blow up the non-targetting call.

Honestly, they don't need to. All of the college football accounts were complaining about it.

Please share.
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

Cal Twitter should blow up the non-targetting call.
Honestly, they don't need to. All of the college football accounts were complaining about it.
Please share.
"Targeting" had nearly 100K mentions on Twitter after the game.
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