These losses come down to pathetic coaching. Wilcox is so bad that he will never get another head coaching job after he is fired from Cal. Wish we would (could) fire him tonight!Nofado said:
We were less than 5 points from going 6-0. Without OTT, Vatikani etc. the wins come down to kicking. We need a kicker
That's a FACT
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LunchTime said:ShoGunn said:
sorry folks. what's the Wilcox buy-out situation again?
Whats the cost of keeping him?
We already blew the potential of millions that would have come
From the Game Day exposure and two wins after that.
If you don't have a kicker, you're kind of in trouble, but I do agree we should not have gone for two on the first drive that one was a puzzle
Well, looks like we lost. I didn't watch the game. Was out on the field all day. Looks like the same ol thing though: Wilcox bad decisionmaking. Glad I didn't watch. Saves me alot of pain and frustration.
What happened at the end? Block? Bad snap? Or did he just straight miss it?
What happened at the end? Block? Bad snap? Or did he just straight miss it?
calumnus said:HateRed said:
The boys in blue keep teasing us. This one hurts just as much as last week. I personally don't blame the coaches. They don't play the game, the players do. Offensive line was horrible today. The kicker, well…
If we kick the XP on the first TD instead of inexplicably going for 2 (like we are a hood short yardage team?) or if we kept driving instead of playing to set up the FG, then we wouldn't have the kid to blame.
Bad coaching doesn't change that this kicker shouldn't be on the team.
He's on the team because of bad coaching.
LunchTime said:GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Seriously... Taking the ball away from Mendoza and giving it to Rogers in key plays to watch Roger do absolutely less than nothing...
And then asking to start him?
You need inpatient help. It's so mind-blowing it MUST be some kind of TBI.
Mendoza Is great if we are aggressive and just throw downfield. Rogers is not a running QB but for some reason we act like he is. We might actually fool them if he threw, but he should not be in there when Mendoza is throwing lasers.
He'll be in yellow and blue next year. Or as some call it "maize".Nofado said:
His body language is very low self esteem. I don't see him on the sideline practicing his kicks either. I think he should be doing that.
philly1121 said:
Well, looks like we lost. I didn't watch the game. Was out on the field all day. Looks like the same ol thing though: Wilcox bad decisionmaking. Glad I didn't watch. Saves me alot of pain and frustration.
What happened at the end? Block? Bad snap? Or did he just straight miss it?
Straight up missed it. Almost didn't get it to the uprights.
Looked like a ****ing student kick for $5000 tuition.
philly1121 said:
Well, looks like we lost. I didn't watch the game. Was out on the field all day. Looks like the same ol thing though: Wilcox bad decisionmaking. Glad I didn't watch. Saves me alot of pain and frustration.
What happened at the end? Block? Bad snap? Or did he just straight miss it?
Just straight missed it.
And of course Wilcox called for three straight runs into the line (taking Mendoza off the field for the last one) and a 40-yard kick while Cal was rolling down the field and could have scored TD. The miss was destined to happen.
DiabloWags said:LunchTime said:
That kicker should be kicked off the team. Holy *****
He's from PA.
I say leave him there.
You have just managed a rare twofer: simultaneously vicious and hysterical.
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calumnus said:LunchTime said:GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Seriously... Taking the ball away from Mendoza and giving it to Rogers in key plays to watch Roger do absolutely less than nothing...
And then asking to start him?
You need inpatient help. It's so mind-blowing it MUST be some kind of TBI.
Mendoza Is great if we are aggressive and just throw downfield. Rogers is not a running QB but for some reason we act like he is. We might actually fool them if he threw, but he should not be in there when Mendoza is throwing lasers.
"Some reason"
Nofado said:
If you don't have a kicker, you're kind of in trouble, but I do agree we should not have gone for two on the first drive that one was a puzzle
The kicker has made XPs. We do not have a good Red Zone offense, so going for 2 there makes less than zero sense. It is stupid.
Is there a better metaphor for "hell on Earth" than being a Cal football fan? Since 1968 minus a few Tedford/Snyder years, it's been like this. We are Cal, the definition of hapless. I just don't see how this ever changes.
You sound like the ****** ducktilldeath.LunchTime said:GoOskie said:A change up. Just to see what he can do.concernedparent said:What about Rogers' play inspires any confidence?GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Thinking changing QBs will change something is the refuge of the dimwitted. It's so rare it that people will cite examples from generations ago to show it can happen.
He was pretty good at N Texas and has a lot of experience. This atrocious OL is killing Fernando and he will get hurt eventually. I love Fernando, but he's not mobile and can't evade pressure. Roger's mobility may ease the pressure on this crappy OL and Bloech can open the playbook more. Wilcox and co still need to be fired, however.
LunchTime said:calumnus said:LunchTime said:GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Seriously... Taking the ball away from Mendoza and giving it to Rogers in key plays to watch Roger do absolutely less than nothing...
And then asking to start him?
You need inpatient help. It's so mind-blowing it MUST be some kind of TBI.
Mendoza Is great if we are aggressive and just throw downfield. Rogers is not a running QB but for some reason we act like he is. We might actually fool them if he threw, but he should not be in there when Mendoza is throwing lasers.
"Some reason"
Mendoza is already a good runner. This is similar to the Garbers-McIlwain situation where we kept trying the latter even though the former was already a good dual-threat guy.
GoOskie said:You sound like the ****** ducktilldeath.LunchTime said:GoOskie said:A change up. Just to see what he can do.concernedparent said:What about Rogers' play inspires any confidence?GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Thinking changing QBs will change something is the refuge of the dimwitted. It's so rare it that people will cite examples from generations ago to show it can happen.
He was pretty good at N Texas and has a lot of experience. This atrocious OL is killing Fernando and he will get hurt eventually. I love Fernando, but he's not mobile and can't evade pressure. Roger's mobility may ease the pressure on this crappy OL and Bloech can open the playbook more. Wilcox and co still need to be fired, however.
I feel like you are trolling.
Tell me true, are you trolling?
Mobility means nothing if the defense doesn't have to respect the possibility of a pass
Garners was far better. Mendoza is not Garbers in running ability
LarsBear74 said:
Is there a better metaphor for "hell on Earth" than being a Cal football fan? Since 1968 minus a few Tedford/Snyder years, it's been like this. We are Cal, the definition of hapless. I just don't see how this ever changes.
The difference is that for a lot of those other years, we didn't have the talent and just got blown out a lot. Right now we clearly have the talent. Not good enough to win the conference or anything, but to be better than .500 yes. And it's being wasted in losses that were entirely winnable.
oh man. ok. glad i didn't watch. I'd have thrown something at the tv. I'll see about the highlights.sycasey said:philly1121 said:
Well, looks like we lost. I didn't watch the game. Was out on the field all day. Looks like the same ol thing though: Wilcox bad decisionmaking. Glad I didn't watch. Saves me alot of pain and frustration.
What happened at the end? Block? Bad snap? Or did he just straight miss it?
Just straight missed it.
And of course Wilcox called for three straight runs into the line (taking Mendoza off the field for the last one) and a 40-yard kick while Cal was rolling down the field and could have scored TD. The miss was destined to happen.
LunchTime said:calumnus said:LunchTime said:GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Seriously... Taking the ball away from Mendoza and giving it to Rogers in key plays to watch Roger do absolutely less than nothing...
And then asking to start him?
You need inpatient help. It's so mind-blowing it MUST be some kind of TBI.
Mendoza Is great if we are aggressive and just throw downfield. Rogers is not a running QB but for some reason we act like he is. We might actually fool them if he threw, but he should not be in there when Mendoza is throwing lasers.
"Some reason"
Unfortunately JW has proven that's his thinking several times over the years.
sycasey said:LunchTime said:calumnus said:LunchTime said:GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Seriously... Taking the ball away from Mendoza and giving it to Rogers in key plays to watch Roger do absolutely less than nothing...
And then asking to start him?
You need inpatient help. It's so mind-blowing it MUST be some kind of TBI.
Mendoza Is great if we are aggressive and just throw downfield. Rogers is not a running QB but for some reason we act like he is. We might actually fool them if he threw, but he should not be in there when Mendoza is throwing lasers.
"Some reason"
Mendoza is already a good runner. This is similar to the Garbers-McIlwain situation where we kept trying the latter even though the former was already a good dual-threat guy.
Yep. Mendoza keeps all options open. Rogers gives the D 1 person to worry about. Same problem as mcilwain.
Maybe Rogers can throw. He didn't have a good drive last week. But they treat him like he's a RB playing behind center.
Mendoza is certainly not the problem, though.
It's okay to admit your idea is stupid and move on.GoOskie said:You sound like the ****** ducktilldeath.LunchTime said:GoOskie said:A change up. Just to see what he can do.concernedparent said:What about Rogers' play inspires any confidence?GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Thinking changing QBs will change something is the refuge of the dimwitted. It's so rare it that people will cite examples from generations ago to show it can happen.
He was pretty good at N Texas and has a lot of experience. This atrocious OL is killing Fernando and he will get hurt eventually. I love Fernando, but he's not mobile and can't evade pressure. Roger's mobility may ease the pressure on this crappy OL and Bloech can open the playbook more. Wilcox and co still need to be fired, however.
It's rare that you can so directly say the coach lost a game. Wilcox conservative nature directly lost this game. Again. It's one thing to err, another thing to err the same error over and over again. I mean he just did this LAST WEEK. What does it take other than firing him to get him to play with some balls when there is the opportunity to win?
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Wilcoxball is dead, just waiting to the administration finally take it out and bury itblungld said:
It's rare that you can so directly say the coach lost a game. Wilcox conservative nature directly lost this game. Again. It's one thing to err, another thing to err the same error over and over again. I mean he just did this LAST WEEK. What does it take other than firing him to get him to play with some balls when there is the opportunity to win?
concernedparent said:It's okay to admit your idea is stupid and move on.GoOskie said:You sound like the ****** ducktilldeath.LunchTime said:GoOskie said:A change up. Just to see what he can do.concernedparent said:What about Rogers' play inspires any confidence?GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Thinking changing QBs will change something is the refuge of the dimwitted. It's so rare it that people will cite examples from generations ago to show it can happen.
He was pretty good at N Texas and has a lot of experience. This atrocious OL is killing Fernando and he will get hurt eventually. I love Fernando, but he's not mobile and can't evade pressure. Roger's mobility may ease the pressure on this crappy OL and Bloech can open the playbook more. Wilcox and co still need to be fired, however.
I don't know that a QB can have better stats than Mendoza did with this offensive line. How can anyone think putting in Rogers is an advantage?
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It's not a stupid idea. Rogers threw for over 3,000 yards last year. This nonsense about him not being able to throw is, well, nonsense.concernedparent said:It's okay to admit your idea is stupid and move on.GoOskie said:You sound like the ****** ducktilldeath.LunchTime said:GoOskie said:A change up. Just to see what he can do.concernedparent said:What about Rogers' play inspires any confidence?GoOskie said:
Maybe try Rogers from here on out. Fernando makes some questionable decisions quite often.
Thinking changing QBs will change something is the refuge of the dimwitted. It's so rare it that people will cite examples from generations ago to show it can happen.
He was pretty good at N Texas and has a lot of experience. This atrocious OL is killing Fernando and he will get hurt eventually. I love Fernando, but he's not mobile and can't evade pressure. Roger's mobility may ease the pressure on this crappy OL and Bloech can open the playbook more. Wilcox and co still need to be fired, however.
Nofado said:
We were less than 5 points from going 6-0. Without OTT, Vatikani etc. the wins come down to kicking. We need a kicker
That's a FACT
So you're saying Wilcox is close?
I'll stick to my idea that if you want to play Rogers put him in the backfield and let him have the option to throw but keep Mendoza in too
I'm saying a kicker makes the difference
tc3590 said:
Wilcox is trash. Absolute horrible job coaching today. Not trying to throw a Hail Mary at the end of the first half, and relying on a kicker who has missed half his field goals this year to kick a 40 yarder when offense was moving the ball. He's gotta go.
Yeah he projects a false intellect. The results on the field speak to that. He is a nerd with no feel for the game or gamesmanship. We would rather be 5-7, 6-6, 7-5, 4-7 forever with a guy we would have over for dinner than a winning coach we can't personally relate to. Sure feels that way with all the Opie Griffiths we've been hiring. I hope Madsen shows some snout and wins more games this year. We are midway and but 3 more wins we get a bowl game. Acceptance is my path to Cal football happiness.
Mendoza is really smart. No smart QB would willingly stay in a program that leads the nation in sacks allowed per game.Strykur said:Mendoza was going to the Ivy League before we offered, we won't lose him unless a major program throws him a massive dealDaveT said:
Over the past four games, Cal has allowed more sacks than any other team in the country. They are averaging over 5 sacks allowed per game. If I'm Mendoza, I'm gone after this season, if for no other reason than to avoid dying.
A smart guy would go somewhere with better coaching, a better OL, more opportunities to show his skillset, a coaching staff that doesn't insist on taking him out of games at critical moments, that doesn't force him to run the QB competition gauntlet each offseason, and maybe somewhere where he wouldn't take a dozen hard hits every game.
sycasey said:LarsBear74 said:
Is there a better metaphor for "hell on Earth" than being a Cal football fan? Since 1968 minus a few Tedford/Snyder years, it's been like this. We are Cal, the definition of hapless. I just don't see how this ever changes.
The difference is that for a lot of those other years, we didn't have the talent and just got blown out a lot. Right now we clearly have the talent. Not good enough to win the conference or anything, but to be better than .500 yes. And it's being wasted in losses that were entirely winnable.
We have talent just not at arguably the most important unit on the team...the OL. Maybe the missing players are all Americans but I've read that here before.
Look if you wanna play blame I think you have to look at the offensive line Coach. I know that the unit is depleted, but when you have penalties for hands to the face. When you have this many false starts. There's something wrong. Offensive line should know exactly when the snap is coming regardless of what is going on around them or who is stunting or pretending to blitz pick up your assignments. Talk to each other and keep your quarterback on his feet.
Nofado said:
I'm saying a kicker makes the difference
He ran off a good kicker for this guy.
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