Mendoza to Indiana?

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Grrrrah76
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Now it's official. Gave up a chance to be the next Joe Kapp to be just another Hoosier quarterback. Disappointing .
Cal88
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Too bad we lost out on Sagapolutele, he could have started as a freshman. Maybe the new staff with their Hawaii connections can make another run at him?
Big C
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Cal88 said:

Too bad we lost out on Sagapolutele, he could have started as a freshman. Maybe the new staff with their Hawaii connections can make another run at him?

Nothin' a player loves more nowadays than a clear path to a starting position*. JKS should tell the Ducks he changed his mind and wants to come here... threaten to sue the NCAA. We know how that always turns out lately. He could be in classes in Berkeley in a few weeks (early entry).


* Ah, in addition to a starting job, I hear they like that NIL, too... well we have some!
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BearSD said:

KoreAmBear said:

okaydo said:

Grrrrah76 said:

Maybe I jumped the shark.......

Jumped the gun, not shark.

Jumped the shark essentially means the point at which something great goes bad. So it wouldn't apply to Cal.
It's when the Fonz was attempting to jump some sharks from a ramp on waterskis. Ayeee.
Yes, so "jumped the shark" = taking the off ramp (heh) from normalcy to absurdity. Going from a typical sitcom episode in which "the guys" are having fun on vacation to a scene in which one of the guys, still wearing a leather jacket, is on waterskis and jumping over a shark that pops up out of the water
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I was curious on his status and reason for leaving, but honestly good riddance. He screamed and bleed blue and gold. I thought he was a lifer, but to leave after all that talk? Will wait again and find out who are starter is 3-4 games into 25' season like we always do. And then again in 26' season because wilsux never truly gives the nod
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Mendoza transferring doesn't lessen what he gifted Cal through his time at QB.

He transferred to Indiana where his younger brother is a backup QB. I wish him the best with the Hoosiers. He will definitely get sacked less and be able to put up bigger numbers as he showcases his skills for NFL .
Big C
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BarcaBear said:

Mendoza transferring doesn't lessen what he gifted Cal through his time at QB.

He transferred to Indiana where his younger brother is a backup QB. I wish him the best with the Hoosiers. He will definitely get sacked less and be able to put up bigger numbers as he showcases his skills for NFL .

My parents taught me to always write thank you notes for gifts. So...

Thank you for being a major contributor to the two 6-7 seasons, Fernando Mendoza!

I mean, we've had worse...
Onward.
Shocky1
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barca, ur wishing mendoza "best wishes" is a indicator that u got no clue re: the inner workings of the cal football program
BarcaBear
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Bruh, you're clueless about Mendoza's talent. If he was as bad as you pretend he is, then he wouldn't have been top 3 portal QB, and a top 10 QB period

Indiana, after their season, would not have gone after him. His stats were ridiculous considering the gaping Oline letting defenders make Mendoza eat dirt so much
Nofado
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Regardless, his decision has been made let's move on
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BarcaBear said:

Bruh, you're clueless about Mendoza's talent. If he was as bad as you pretend he is, then he wouldn't have been top 3 portal QB, and a top 10 QB period

Indiana, after their season, would not have gone after him. His stats were ridiculous considering the gaping Oline letting defenders make Mendoza eat dirt so much
*** cares, go bears forever
dimitrig
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We dig this guy out of obscurity, give him a chance to succeed, and then he turns around and leaves.

Thanks for nothing.

All of these guys are mercenaries these days.
bear2034
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Shocky1 said:

barca, ur wishing mendoza "best wishes" is a indicator that u got no clue re: the inner workings of the cal football program
BarcaBear
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You should have told that to the person I responded to, bruh

Enjoy flaming down, though. No need for you to get so wound up.
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dimitrig said:


We dig this guy out of obscurity, give him a chance to succeed, and then he turns around and leaves.

Thanks for nothing.

All of these guys are mercenaries these days.


Are you still with your first employer? Would you advise your kids or loved ones to stick with their first employer?

Why should others be stuck to spin their wheels under incompetent management? Wilsux has proven to be incompetent at managing the offensive side of the game. Why shouldn't Cal's offensive players with NFL ambitions seek better coaching elsewhere?

Also, way to ignore Nando's own hard work that prepared him to take advantage of the few opportunities presented to him. He was clearly the better than Ben Finley, yet Finley got the nod when Sam Jackson V went down. Nando also spent the offseason working out with his teammates and improving his game, only to have Wilsux take the ball out of his hands at key points in winnable games and give them to Chandler Rogers for obvious running plays. In spite of Wilsux's poor decision making, Nando still led the Bears to six wins, including the Big Game comeback. (Frankly, for at least the latter half of the season, it appeared the team had tuned out Wilsux and company and were playing for one another.)
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01Bear said:

dimitrig said:


We dig this guy out of obscurity, give him a chance to succeed, and then he turns around and leaves.

Thanks for nothing.

All of these guys are mercenaries these days.


Are you still with your first employer? Would you advise your kids or loved ones to stick with their first employer?

Why should others be stuck to spin their wheels under incompetent management? Wilsux has proven to be incompetent at managing the offensive side of the game. Why shouldn't Cal's offensive players with NFL ambitions seek better coaching elsewhere?

Also, way to ignore Nando's own hard work that prepared him to take advantage of the few opportunities presented to him. He was clearly the better than Ben Finley, yet Finley got the nod when Sam Jackson V went down. Nando also spent the offseason working out with his teammates and improving his game, only to have Wilsux take the ball out of his hands at key points in winnable games and give them to Chandler Rogers for obvious running plays. In spite of Wilsux's poor decision making, Nando still led the Bears to six wins, including the Big Game comeback. (Frankly, for at least the latter half of the season, it appeared the team had tuned out Wilsux and company and were playing for one another.)


The offense choked many more times in key moments with Mendoza at the helm than with Rogers at the helm. Putting Rogers in every blue moon is incredibly low on the chart for reasons our offense failed in key moments.
01Bear
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oski003 said:

01Bear said:

dimitrig said:


We dig this guy out of obscurity, give him a chance to succeed, and then he turns around and leaves.

Thanks for nothing.

All of these guys are mercenaries these days.


Are you still with your first employer? Would you advise your kids or loved ones to stick with their first employer?

Why should others be stuck to spin their wheels under incompetent management? Wilsux has proven to be incompetent at managing the offensive side of the game. Why shouldn't Cal's offensive players with NFL ambitions seek better coaching elsewhere?

Also, way to ignore Nando's own hard work that prepared him to take advantage of the few opportunities presented to him. He was clearly the better than Ben Finley, yet Finley got the nod when Sam Jackson V went down. Nando also spent the offseason working out with his teammates and improving his game, only to have Wilsux take the ball out of his hands at key points in winnable games and give them to Chandler Rogers for obvious running plays. In spite of Wilsux's poor decision making, Nando still led the Bears to six wins, including the Big Game comeback. (Frankly, for at least the latter half of the season, it appeared the team had tuned out Wilsux and company and were playing for one another.)


The offense choked many more times in key moments with Mendoza at the helm than with Rogers at the helm. Putting Rogers in every blue moon is incredibly low on the chart for reasons our offense failed in key moments.

Sure, but that's on the coaching and Wilsux's inexplicable decision not to have a dedicated OL coach.

You're not really doing any favors for yourself here, Coach Wilsux.
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01Bear said:

oski003 said:

01Bear said:

dimitrig said:


We dig this guy out of obscurity, give him a chance to succeed, and then he turns around and leaves.

Thanks for nothing.

All of these guys are mercenaries these days.


Are you still with your first employer? Would you advise your kids or loved ones to stick with their first employer?

Why should others be stuck to spin their wheels under incompetent management? Wilsux has proven to be incompetent at managing the offensive side of the game. Why shouldn't Cal's offensive players with NFL ambitions seek better coaching elsewhere?

Also, way to ignore Nando's own hard work that prepared him to take advantage of the few opportunities presented to him. He was clearly the better than Ben Finley, yet Finley got the nod when Sam Jackson V went down. Nando also spent the offseason working out with his teammates and improving his game, only to have Wilsux take the ball out of his hands at key points in winnable games and give them to Chandler Rogers for obvious running plays. In spite of Wilsux's poor decision making, Nando still led the Bears to six wins, including the Big Game comeback. (Frankly, for at least the latter half of the season, it appeared the team had tuned out Wilsux and company and were playing for one another.)


The offense choked many more times in key moments with Mendoza at the helm than with Rogers at the helm. Putting Rogers in every blue moon is incredibly low on the chart for reasons our offense failed in key moments.

Sure, but that's on the coaching and Wilsux's inexplicable decision not to have a dedicated OL coach.

You're not really doing any favors for yourself here, Coach Wilsux.


This is a conversation about Mendoza. I am neither attacking nor defending Coach Wilcox here. Grow up.
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The comments disparaging this guy shows how little these gladiators actually matter... Really reminds me of that Oregon player's article on how ****ty Oregon (and really all) sports fans are.

I have never understood caring about some NFL players because he went to Cal, but we treat Gonzalez, Lynch, Rodgers etc like they didn't abandon the team for some reason.

As though the last college uniform you wore is the only uniform you wore...

"Oh no! He's wearing a different shirt! A DIFFERENT SHIRT! BOOOOOOOOOO"

it's all just absurd.
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LunchTime said:

The comments disparaging this guy shows how little these gladiators actually matter... Really reminds me of that Oregon player's article on how ****ty Oregon (and really all) sports fans are.

I have never understood caring about some NFL players because he went to Cal, but we treat Gonzalez, Lynch, Rodgers etc like they didn't abandon the team for some reason.

As though the last college uniform you wore is the only uniform you wore...

"Oh no! He's wearing a different shirt! A DIFFERENT SHIRT! BOOOOOOOOOO"

it's all just absurd.

I think the issue with FM is not so much that he left but the way he did so. For example, even though he transferred to Nebraska (and even though he played for the Rams) I cheered on Ferragamo in the NFL. To my knowledge, Ferragamo did not bad mouth Cal to any recruit. He didn't leave us in the lurch as we still had Steve Bartkowski and a year later we would welcome Joe Roth.

Had FM informed the coaches of his intentions before the SMU game, they could have worked with CJ Harris and EJ Caminong to prepare them. This would also have allowed the coaches to begin exploring the portal for his replacement before they committed to other schools. And then there is the issue of him taking it upon himself to contact our committed QB and talk him out of ;honoring that verbal commitment.

FM will never be held in the reverance we have for Gonzalez, Lynch, Rodgers, et. al.
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That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
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southseasbear said:

LunchTime said:

The comments disparaging this guy shows how little these gladiators actually matter... Really reminds me of that Oregon player's article on how ****ty Oregon (and really all) sports fans are.

I have never understood caring about some NFL players because he went to Cal, but we treat Gonzalez, Lynch, Rodgers etc like they didn't abandon the team for some reason.

As though the last college uniform you wore is the only uniform you wore...

"Oh no! He's wearing a different shirt! A DIFFERENT SHIRT! BOOOOOOOOOO"

it's all just absurd.

I think the issue with FM is not so much that he left but the way he did so. For example, even though he transferred to Nebraska (and even though he played for the Rams) I cheered on Ferragamo in the NFL. To my knowledge, Ferragamo did not bad mouth Cal to any recruit. He didn't leave us in the lurch as we still had Steve Bartkowski and a year later we would welcome Joe Roth.

Had FM informed the coaches of his intentions before the SMU game, they could have worked with CJ Harris and EJ Caminong to prepare them. This would also have allowed the coaches to begin exploring the portal for his replacement before they committed to other schools. And then there is the issue of him taking it upon himself to contact our committed QB and talk him out of ;honoring that verbal commitment.

FM will never be held in the reverance we have for Gonzalez, Lynch, Rodgers, et. al.


Wait. He was discouraging recruits from coming to Cal?

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dimitrig said:

southseasbear said:

LunchTime said:

The comments disparaging this guy shows how little these gladiators actually matter... Really reminds me of that Oregon player's article on how ****ty Oregon (and really all) sports fans are.

I have never understood caring about some NFL players because he went to Cal, but we treat Gonzalez, Lynch, Rodgers etc like they didn't abandon the team for some reason.

As though the last college uniform you wore is the only uniform you wore...

"Oh no! He's wearing a different shirt! A DIFFERENT SHIRT! BOOOOOOOOOO"

it's all just absurd.

I think the issue with FM is not so much that he left but the way he did so. For example, even though he transferred to Nebraska (and even though he played for the Rams) I cheered on Ferragamo in the NFL. To my knowledge, Ferragamo did not bad mouth Cal to any recruit. He didn't leave us in the lurch as we still had Steve Bartkowski and a year later we would welcome Joe Roth.

Had FM informed the coaches of his intentions before the SMU game, they could have worked with CJ Harris and EJ Caminong to prepare them. This would also have allowed the coaches to begin exploring the portal for his replacement before they committed to other schools. And then there is the issue of him taking it upon himself to contact our committed QB and talk him out of ;honoring that verbal commitment.

FM will never be held in the reverance we have for Gonzalez, Lynch, Rodgers, et. al.


Wait. He was discouraging recruits from coming to Cal?




Yes.
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Bobodeluxe said:

That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
Ridiculous. Look at Devin Brown who played the entire regular season including the conference championship and then informed Ohio State that he was transferring after the playoffs. He has two years of elibibilty remaining, just like FM.
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southseasbear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
Ridiculous. Look at Devin Brown who played the entire regular season including the conference championship and then informed Ohio State that he was transferring after the playoffs. He has two years of elibibilty remaining, just like FM.



Isn't Devin Brown the backup? He's barely played.
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FrankBear21 said:

southseasbear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
Ridiculous. Look at Devin Brown who played the entire regular season including the conference championship and then informed Ohio State that he was transferring after the playoffs. He has two years of elibibilty remaining, just like FM.



Isn't Devin Brown the backup? He's barely played.
So...?

You think that being the starter justifies FM sabotaging the team on his way out?
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southseasbear said:

FrankBear21 said:

southseasbear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
Ridiculous. Look at Devin Brown who played the entire regular season including the conference championship and then informed Ohio State that he was transferring after the playoffs. He has two years of elibibilty remaining, just like FM.



Isn't Devin Brown the backup? He's barely played.
So...?

You think that being the starter justifies FM sabotaging the team on his way out?
He doesn't need to sabotage the team, it was already pretty dysfunctional already. You think JKS had no clue about Wilcox's on field record, NFL draft record or his revolving door of OCs?
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DoubtfulBear said:

southseasbear said:

FrankBear21 said:

southseasbear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
Ridiculous. Look at Devin Brown who played the entire regular season including the conference championship and then informed Ohio State that he was transferring after the playoffs. He has two years of elibibilty remaining, just like FM.



Isn't Devin Brown the backup? He's barely played.
So...?

You think that being the starter justifies FM sabotaging the team on his way out?
He doesn't need to sabotage the team, it was already pretty dysfunctional already. You think JKS had no clue about Wilcox's on field record, NFL draft record or his revolving door of OCs?
JKS knew all those things and was still committed to Cal prior to the (alleged) phone call from FM.
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ncbears said:

DoubtfulBear said:

southseasbear said:

FrankBear21 said:

southseasbear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
Ridiculous. Look at Devin Brown who played the entire regular season including the conference championship and then informed Ohio State that he was transferring after the playoffs. He has two years of elibibilty remaining, just like FM.



Isn't Devin Brown the backup? He's barely played.
So...?

You think that being the starter justifies FM sabotaging the team on his way out?
He doesn't need to sabotage the team, it was already pretty dysfunctional already. You think JKS had no clue about Wilcox's on field record, NFL draft record or his revolving door of OCs?
JKS knew all those things and was still committed to Cal prior to the (alleged) phone call from FM.
It's hilarious that prior to his announcement, the mutual expectation here was that JKS will either flip to Oregon or Georgia. Yet now that Mendoza is gone, the narrative shifted to him being a lock if it wasn't for a traitorous snake that whispered into his ear? You guys are hilarious, doing all kinds of mental backflips to defend the honor of Wilcox's regime.
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BarcaBear said:

Bruh, you're clueless about Mendoza's talent. If he was as bad as you pretend he is, then he wouldn't have been top 3 portal QB, and a top 10 QB period

Indiana, after their season, would not have gone after him. His stats were ridiculous considering the gaping Oline letting defenders make Mendoza eat dirt so much


https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/sacks-are-a-quarterback-stat-01dxqapkgvw9

I'm not suggesting the o-line was great or it was all on Mendoza, but he was completely unable to recognize blitzes (even when telegraphed) and almost never threw hot.
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DoubtfulBear said:

ncbears said:

DoubtfulBear said:

southseasbear said:

FrankBear21 said:

southseasbear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
Ridiculous. Look at Devin Brown who played the entire regular season including the conference championship and then informed Ohio State that he was transferring after the playoffs. He has two years of elibibilty remaining, just like FM.



Isn't Devin Brown the backup? He's barely played.
So...?

You think that being the starter justifies FM sabotaging the team on his way out?
He doesn't need to sabotage the team, it was already pretty dysfunctional already. You think JKS had no clue about Wilcox's on field record, NFL draft record or his revolving door of OCs?
JKS knew all those things and was still committed to Cal prior to the (alleged) phone call from FM.
It's hilarious that prior to his announcement, the mutual expectation here was that JKS will either flip to Oregon or Georgia. Yet now that Mendoza is gone, the narrative shifted to him being a lock if it wasn't for a traitorous snake that whispered into his ear? You guys are hilarious, doing all kinds of mental backflips to defend the honor of Wilcox's regime.


He gave Mendoza as a reason for not committing. Facts are facts, bro.
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DoubtfulBear said:

ncbears said:

DoubtfulBear said:

southseasbear said:

FrankBear21 said:

southseasbear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
Ridiculous. Look at Devin Brown who played the entire regular season including the conference championship and then informed Ohio State that he was transferring after the playoffs. He has two years of elibibilty remaining, just like FM.



Isn't Devin Brown the backup? He's barely played.
So...?

You think that being the starter justifies FM sabotaging the team on his way out?
He doesn't need to sabotage the team, it was already pretty dysfunctional already. You think JKS had no clue about Wilcox's on field record, NFL draft record or his revolving door of OCs?
JKS knew all those things and was still committed to Cal prior to the (alleged) phone call from FM.
It's hilarious that prior to his announcement, the mutual expectation here was that JKS will either flip to Oregon or Georgia. Yet now that Mendoza is gone, the narrative shifted to him being a lock if it wasn't for a traitorous snake that whispered into his ear? You guys are hilarious, doing all kinds of mental backflips to defend the honor of Wilcox's regime.
Except JKS himself told Oregon and Cal his conversation with Mendoza is what caused him to flip at the last minute after telling both programs the night before signing day that he was sticking with Cal
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doubtful bear=the most clueless dumb azz on planet earth
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ac_green33 said:

BarcaBear said:

Bruh, you're clueless about Mendoza's talent. If he was as bad as you pretend he is, then he wouldn't have been top 3 portal QB, and a top 10 QB period

Indiana, after their season, would not have gone after him. His stats were ridiculous considering the gaping Oline letting defenders make Mendoza eat dirt so much


https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/sacks-are-a-quarterback-stat-01dxqapkgvw9

I'm not suggesting the o-line was great or it was all on Mendoza, but he was completely unable to recognize blitzes (even when telegraphed) and almost never threw hot.


From what I saw about 1/3 of Mendoza's sacks last season were clearly on him. Holding the ball way too long, running into pressure, not running away from pressure when there's plenty of time to do so, taking a sack when he could have thrown it away, etc. These all appear fixable with proper coaching but that article suggests it may not be, just like you usually can't make an inaccurate quarterback accurate.
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DoubtfulBear said:

ncbears said:

DoubtfulBear said:

southseasbear said:

FrankBear21 said:

southseasbear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

That was a different era. It's only about money, now. The stakes are too great for even signing a rookie contract. IIf people are foolish enough to believe players care an iota about the school and the fans, well, enjoy that fantasy.
Ridiculous. Look at Devin Brown who played the entire regular season including the conference championship and then informed Ohio State that he was transferring after the playoffs. He has two years of elibibilty remaining, just like FM.



Isn't Devin Brown the backup? He's barely played.
So...?

You think that being the starter justifies FM sabotaging the team on his way out?
He doesn't need to sabotage the team, it was already pretty dysfunctional already. You think JKS had no clue about Wilcox's on field record, NFL draft record or his revolving door of OCs?
JKS knew all those things and was still committed to Cal prior to the (alleged) phone call from FM.
It's hilarious that prior to his announcement, the mutual expectation here was that JKS will either flip to Oregon or Georgia. Yet now that Mendoza is gone, the narrative shifted to him being a lock if it wasn't for a traitorous snake that whispered into his ear? You guys are hilarious, doing all kinds of mental backflips to defend the honor of Wilcox's regime.



If you're going to call people out like this make sure you know what you're talking about. It's been confirmed from multiple sources including our own collective that this conversation changed JKS' mind.
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