Adam's joins and you have him, Jefferson, Addison and Jones. They will drink out of opponents skulls

Steelers

Comes back to Cal to complete eligibility!

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He's cooked. No insult to him as a player, he's obviously been great. But everyone gets too old at some point and I think his time has come.

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Brady retired at 45.

If his achile's heel shows further improvement, he would still perform as an upper tier NFL QB.

10 Oldest NFL Quarterbacks Ever.

George Blanda
48 years
1949 1975 (26 years)
Oakland Raiders (1967 1975)

John Nesser
45 Years
1909 1921 (12 years)
Colombus Panhandles

Steve DeBerg
44 years
1977 1993; 1998 (17 years)
Atlanta Falcons (1998)

Tom Brady
45 years
2000 2023
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2020 Present)

Vinny Testaverde
44 years
1987 2007 (21 years)
Carolina Panthers (2007)

Warren Moon
43 years
1984 2000 (16 years)
Kansas City Chiefs (1999 2000)

Doug Flutie
43 years
1986 2005
San Diego Chargers (2001 2004)

Earl Morrall
42 years
1956 1976 (21 years)
Miami Dolphins (1972 1976)

Drew Brees
42 years
2001 2021
New Orleans Saints (2006 Present)

Brett Favre
41 years
1991 2010 (19 years)
Minnesota Vikings (2009 2010)

The Oakland Rahdahs! Colts makes some sense too.

The bad news on this is it could drag on quite a while as there are no incentives for the jets to just release Rodgers quickly. His 2025 salary doesn't get guaranteed until the start of the regular season but the jets can just sit around and wait until they get some kind of offer. There is no monetary or cap difference to the jets if they act now, in June, or the day before the season starts.

It's also not in Rodgers' interest to retire because they Jets would hold his rights if he ever wanted to come back.

And then any team trading for Rodgers could be on the hook for $35 million in 2025. And Rodgers has a no trade clause.

Perhaps a deal can be worked out for a low round draft pick + salary renegotiation to spread out the 2025 salary before the draft. But again that would require a team to agree to paying Rodgers at that 35 million at some point.

Chiefs. Mahomes is cooked.

ColoradoBear said:

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The bad news on this is it could drag on quite a while as there are no incentives for the jets to just release Rodgers quickly. His 2025 salary doesn't get guaranteed until the start of the regular season but the jets can just sit around and wait until they get some kind of offer. There is no monetary or cap difference to the jets if they act now, in June, or the day before the season starts.

It's also not in Rodgers' interest to retire because they Jets would hold his rights if he ever wanted to come back.

And then any team trading for Rodgers could be on the hook for $35 million in 2025. And Rodgers has a no trade clause.

Perhaps a deal can be worked out for a low round draft pick + salary renegotiation to spread out the 2025 salary before the draft. But again that would require a team to agree to paying Rodgers at that 35 million at some point.

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Why would the Jets waste $35 million blocking Rodgers from joining another team when they don't even want him?? They don't have much leverage here.

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ColoradoBear said:

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The bad news on this is it could drag on quite a while as there are no incentives for the jets to just release Rodgers quickly. His 2025 salary doesn't get guaranteed until the start of the regular season but the jets can just sit around and wait until they get some kind of offer. There is no monetary or cap difference to the jets if they act now, in June, or the day before the season starts.

It's also not in Rodgers' interest to retire because they Jets would hold his rights if he ever wanted to come back.

And then any team trading for Rodgers could be on the hook for $35 million in 2025. And Rodgers has a no trade clause.

Perhaps a deal can be worked out for a low round draft pick + salary renegotiation to spread out the 2025 salary before the draft. But again that would require a team to agree to paying Rodgers at that 35 million at some point.

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Why would the Jets waste $35 million blocking Rodgers from joining another team when they don't even want him?? They don't have much leverage here.

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They aren't wasting anything - their contact decision date is literally the first day of the regular season. Hold him til then and cutting 1 day prior is the same 'zero' cost as cutting him now. The dead cap money also doesn't change because that is all money already paid to him.

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sycasey said:

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He's cooked. No insult to him as a player, he's obviously been great. But everyone gets too old at some point and I think his time has come.

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Brady retired at 45.

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Brady is an outlier because he was fanatical about his conditioning, like LeBron.

Any other NFL QB extending his career that long is likely to perform a lot like the last years of Favre, not the last years of Brady.

The numbers are fine. I'd say average, not top tier. Although that interception stat is very misleading.

Guess how many QBs had 28 TDs? 8.

So "4th fewest" sounds pretty good. But 4th out of 8 is again middle of the pack. And at 11 INTs, he's just one INT ahead of 3 guys tied at 12 in that group of 8.

bear2034 said:

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Chiefs. Mahomes is cooked.

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Dang, I didn't know Nico Harrison had a BI account

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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He's cooked. No insult to him as a player, he's obviously been great. But everyone gets too old at some point and I think his time has come.

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Brady retired at 45.

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Brady is an outlier because he was fanatical about his conditioning, like LeBron.

Any other NFL QB extending his career that long is likely to perform a lot like the last years of Favre, not the last years of Brady.

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This. I'm sure AR can still make an NFL roster, yes, but his days of being an above-average starter are done.

Why does Rodgers have to be such a complicated person? I want to like him but I don't agree with many things he espouses.

MilleniaBear said:

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Comes back to Cal to complete eligibility!

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Come back to Cal to earn his degree

HairOfTheBear said:

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okaydo said:

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Rodgers will play for the Raiders. Reunite with Pete Carroll. You heard it here first.

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how does he reunite with Carroll if he was never with him? not really intending to play grammar police, but I am kinda worried my brain function is off and I'm forgetting a time where they collaborated

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Wondering the same thing because Rodgers wasn't with Carroll at Cal... or Packers... or Jets.

Y'all don't know okay do by now? Everything he posts is extremely literal but intentionally misleading.

Rodgers and Carroll have certainly met. They've been on the same field many times, including twice at Cal. Therefore if he goes to the Raiders, they will have reunited. Just not in the way you assumed he meant.

GMP said:

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Y'all don't know okay do by now? Everything he posts is extremely literal but intentionally misleading.

Rodgers and Carroll have certainly met. They've been on the same field many times, including twice at Cal. Therefore if he goes to the Raiders, they will have reunited. Just not in the way you assumed he meant.

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Uniting with someone you've previously met and reuniting with someone are not one in the same.

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GMP said:

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Y'all don't know okay do by now? Everything he posts is extremely literal but intentionally misleading.

Rodgers and Carroll have certainly met. They've been on the same field many times, including twice at Cal. Therefore if he goes to the Raiders, they will have reunited. Just not in the way you assumed he meant.

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Uniting with someone you've previously met and reuniting with someone are not one in the same.

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You're addressing the wrong person, but even I think you're being too narrow with your definition of reunion.

"an instance of two or more people coming together again after a period of separation."

Maybe Carroll coached him in a pro bowl. Maybe they play golf together. Idk, but you have fallen into okaydo's trap. At some point he's going to reveal why it's a reunion, and you're going to either say "ahhh" or "SMH."

They were both immunized by the same virus.

Bobodeluxe said:

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They were both immunized by the same virus.

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As was a good potion of the Cal football team and coaching staff before the Arizona game

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ColoradoBear said:

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Cal88 said:

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ColoradoBear said:

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The bad news on this is it could drag on quite a while as there are no incentives for the jets to just release Rodgers quickly. His 2025 salary doesn't get guaranteed until the start of the regular season but the jets can just sit around and wait until they get some kind of offer. There is no monetary or cap difference to the jets if they act now, in June, or the day before the season starts.

It's also not in Rodgers' interest to retire because they Jets would hold his rights if he ever wanted to come back.

And then any team trading for Rodgers could be on the hook for $35 million in 2025. And Rodgers has a no trade clause.

Perhaps a deal can be worked out for a low round draft pick + salary renegotiation to spread out the 2025 salary before the draft. But again that would require a team to agree to paying Rodgers at that 35 million at some point.

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Why would the Jets waste $35 million blocking Rodgers from joining another team when they don't even want him?? They don't have much leverage here.

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They aren't wasting anything - their contact decision date is literally the first day of the regular season. Hold him til then and cutting 1 day prior is the same 'zero' cost as cutting him now. The dead cap money also doesn't change because that is all money already paid to him.

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Why would they do this? Just to screw AR? Why would a new GM/coach want to mistreat a respected veteran and future Hall of Famer in that way? If they did, they would immediately alienate at least some existing players, not to mention potential free agents they want to sign. Again, why?

The entire purpose of the recent meeting was to be clearly communicate intentions so that both sides could have clarity and plan accordingly. The Jets want to move on which makes sense - AR even said that. Why would they drag this out for no real reason?

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Because they can get draft pick?