BRING OUT THE CHAMPAGNE

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mbBear
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BancroftSteps said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Wilcox, you now have 1 last year to prove it. Let's see who we hire as our new AD. 8 to 9 wins keep your job, 10 wins get you a 1 year extension, and anything else you are out.
Yeah, no matter what happens, this is likely the end of Wilcox at Cal after next season. Unless it exceeds expectations and I mean really exceeds them. The new AD will likely want their person on the job. That's pretty common. But who knows? Maybe this thing with Harsin comes together and we end up with a better than average for Wilcox type of defense.


Might want to stay up on Rivera situation. The new AD isn't going to be choosing the football HC .
01Bear
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sycasey said:

01Bear said:

sycasey said:

01Bear said:

BearSD said:

Every commenter here who claimed that this would never happen owes the chancellor an apology. (Not that we should expect any of those folks to publicly admit they were wrong.)

It only took him a year to (finally!) get it done, even though he was supposed to be a Cal football fan and know what needed to be fixed from the get go. Knownothin should've been fired on Day 1. Lyons should've said, "Look, you know you screwed the pooch with the Teri McKeever situation. Either you resign immediately or I will publish a report saying how badly you screwed up and you'll never get another job again."
I don't know what's been going on behind the scenes, but I can think of some reasons why a new leader wouldn't want to just come in and fire all of the existing ones immediately. Sometimes you can start a mass exodus of employees (including those who actually are critical) by doing that.

There's a significant difference between firing the clearly-in-over-his-head AD who was asleep at the switch in Cal Athletics's most perilous time and firing everyone in the department. From the very beginning, Knownothin should've been terminated with cause as a result of the McKeever scandal (he was either complicit and tried to cover up or he was entirely clueless about the department he was supposed to be running). It should not have taken a year to force Knownothin to take an early retirement (likely with a severance package*).


*The money for the severance package would've been better spent as damages for McKeever's victims, IMHO.
I mean, I would have gotten rid of him immediately too, but again I don't know what the internal politics were.

Fair enough. I think we're all just glad to see Knownothin gone, even if it took longer than we would've preferred.
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BancroftSteps said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Wilcox, you now have 1 last year to prove it. Let's see who we hire as our new AD. 8 to 9 wins keep your job, 10 wins get you a 1 year extension, and anything else you are out.
Yeah, no matter what happens, this is likely the end of Wilcox at Cal after next season. Unless it exceeds expectations and I mean really exceeds them. The new AD will likely want their person on the job. That's pretty common. But who knows? Maybe this thing with Harsin comes together and we end up with a better than average for Wilcox type of defense.


Can someone explain to me why any new AD should have ANY responsibility or say in how the Cal FB program is run now that RR is in charge of Football operations
The AD should focus on non-FB sports
Pittstop
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calumnus said:

01Bear said:

BearSD said:

Every commenter here who claimed that this would never happen owes the chancellor an apology. (Not that we should expect any of those folks to publicly admit they were wrong.)

It only took him a year to (finally!) get it done, even though he was supposed to be a Cal football fan and know what needed to be fixed from the get go. Knownothin should've been fired on Day 1. Lyons should've said, "Look, you know you screwed the pooch with the Teri McKeever situation. Either you resign immediately or I will publish a report saying how badly you screwed up and you'll never get another job again."

We did not have time to waste. Now we have an interim situation with one of the villains of the McKeever scandal in charge?

At least Ron Rivera is in charge of football with Wilcox reporting to him. Though that could have happened a year ago too.

Maybe we are not bringing in a new AD while we are downsizing the other sports?

Glad change is finally here.


Per separate confirmation X posts by @WalkingRuiz and @DanielGamboaDC, attributing confirmation from Cal Athletics, they are 'placeholder' appointments, for 1 year only. their co-AD appointments terminate following their the '25-'26 academic year only.
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Pittstop said:



Per separate confirmation X posts by @WalkingRuiz and @DanielGamboaDC, attributing confirmation from Cal Athletics, they are 'placeholder' appointments, for 1 year only. their co-AD appointments terminate following their the '25-'26 academic year only.
I don't understand why it should take a whole year to find and hire a new "permanent" AD. That just delays the cleanup of the department for one year. Only at Cal would that happen.
Stupid T-Shirt Cannon
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GivemTheAxe said:

BancroftSteps said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Wilcox, you now have 1 last year to prove it. Let's see who we hire as our new AD. 8 to 9 wins keep your job, 10 wins get you a 1 year extension, and anything else you are out.
Yeah, no matter what happens, this is likely the end of Wilcox at Cal after next season. Unless it exceeds expectations and I mean really exceeds them. The new AD will likely want their person on the job. That's pretty common. But who knows? Maybe this thing with Harsin comes together and we end up with a better than average for Wilcox type of defense.
Can someone explain to me why any new AD should have ANY responsibility or say in how the Cal FB program is run now that RR is in charge of Football operations
The AD should focus on non-FB sports
That's a great strategy to get a third rate AD. If that's all this fanbase wants, they could have just kept Knowlton. Accomplished athletic directors aren't coming here to shine Ron Rivera's boots.

The thought that a new athletic director is gonna come in and have no say on who the head coaches of basketball and football would be is preposterous. Maybe the new person won't have the only say, but they'll certainly be a part of the process. The only reason Knowlton got cut out of it was because he had proven how bad he was at being an athletic director.

Shoot for the stars and get an athletic director who is so good that you're glad they're in on the decision.
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Golden One said:

Pittstop said:



Per separate confirmation X posts by @WalkingRuiz and @DanielGamboaDC, attributing confirmation from Cal Athletics, they are 'placeholder' appointments, for 1 year only. their co-AD appointments terminate following their the '25-'26 academic year only.
I don't understand why it should take a whole year to find and hire a new "permanent" AD. That just delays the cleanup of the department for one year. Only at Cal would that happen.
Because Cal always has to make sure the wheels of bureaucracy turn as slowly as possible. There's zero reason to delay searching for a new athletic director. All the interim people are going to do is continue the culture of putting up roadblocks. There's no positive aspect to them being in charge for a year.
MinotStateBeav
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Golden One said:

Pittstop said:



Per separate confirmation X posts by @WalkingRuiz and @DanielGamboaDC, attributing confirmation from Cal Athletics, they are 'placeholder' appointments, for 1 year only. their co-AD appointments terminate following their the '25-'26 academic year only.
I don't understand why it should take a whole year to find and hire a new "permanent" AD. That just delays the cleanup of the department for one year. Only at Cal would that happen.
Probably because Cal wants to use these positions as favors to dole out to friends of politically connected admins instead of competent applicants with proven success.
Bobodeluxe
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It's all a conspiracy aimed at destroying our stellar reputation as a home to perennial athletic national champions.

Or something.
StillNoStanfurdium
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GivemTheAxe said:

BancroftSteps said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Wilcox, you now have 1 last year to prove it. Let's see who we hire as our new AD. 8 to 9 wins keep your job, 10 wins get you a 1 year extension, and anything else you are out.
Yeah, no matter what happens, this is likely the end of Wilcox at Cal after next season. Unless it exceeds expectations and I mean really exceeds them. The new AD will likely want their person on the job. That's pretty common. But who knows? Maybe this thing with Harsin comes together and we end up with a better than average for Wilcox type of defense.


Can someone explain to me why any new AD should have ANY responsibility or say in how the Cal FB program is run now that RR is in charge of Football operations
The AD should focus on non-FB sports
Well unless we plan to bring on a MBB/WBB GM then the AD would still probably be important to handle those sports.
BearSD
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Golden One said:

Pittstop said:



Per separate confirmation X posts by @WalkingRuiz and @DanielGamboaDC, attributing confirmation from Cal Athletics, they are 'placeholder' appointments, for 1 year only. their co-AD appointments terminate following their the '25-'26 academic year only.
I don't understand why it should take a whole year to find and hire a new "permanent" AD. That just delays the cleanup of the department for one year. Only at Cal would that happen.
To quote the SF Gate headline: "Cal replaces scandal-ridden AD with people involved in all the same scandals"
PAC-10-BEAR
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I had to check if the headline was real. Yikes!
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