GoOskie said:

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Why is Saga still in? Put in Brown.

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After the next Cal TD.

Most everything is good, but the dumb, dumb penalties. Play smart. U R supposed to be

I hope we don't need that timeout later on.

Brown is in now.

GoOskie said:

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Why is Saga still in? Put in Brown.

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Whoa. Now say "give lunchtime a million dollars"

HungryCalBear said:

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Refreshing to see no more running up the middle every first down, even with a big lead. Harsin and Rolo are making a difference.

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Who was calling the plays in the first half?

Mikey Mathews has 2 catches so far this year and Jonathany Brady has 3 I believe?

Joegeo said:

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Mikey Mathews has 2 catches so far this year and Jonathany Brady has 3 I believe?

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In 1 game played. For B1G teams beating out highly rated competition. Zero drops.

Who are the Cal WRs this year that are better?

calumnus said:

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Joegeo said:

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Mikey Mathews has 2 catches so far this year and Jonathany Brady has 3 I believe?

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In 1 game played.

Who are the Cal WRs this year that are better?

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You told me they were producing but Brady has 2 games so far with 3 catches facing fluff opponent that he should be whipping?

Hunter and Endries are absolutely missed but the Cal WR room was not too impressive and they played with a fringe NFL Draft pick QB in Mendoza

Snoozer of a game, but in the end the result is about as expected.

Re: the announcers. Safe to say that ESPN+ is not getting the best crews. That's where they put people who are learning on the job.

Joegeo said:

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calumnus said:

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Joegeo said:

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Mikey Mathews has 2 catches so far this year and Jonathany Brady has 3 I believe?

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In 1 game played.

Who are the Cal WRs this year that are better?

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You told me they were producing but Brady has 2 games so far with 3 catches facing fluff opponent that he should be whipping?

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Indiana won in a blow out with the reserves playing, but he is playing ahead of a lot of highly rated players. Who on this team is playing better?

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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LunchTime said:

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SouthKBear said:

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At what game do you seem Wilcox getting fired? If we lose the next 3 (Including today) I would say he's gone.

And yes, JKS is gone too, unless we get a QB miracle working Head coach of a hire as soon as the season was over.

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The sad thing is when Wilcox gets canned, in todays college football, it's essentially like your program is in a death penalty. It's starting from 0 again.

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Is it? I would think the opposite. Literally can build any team you want the first year.

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I guess but typically building a team takes a few years. Unless you're an SEC team or getting 100m from the B1G. Imagine how insane this sounds.. ...we're talking about college football.

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false. look at SMU. i know they lost today but we will trade their last season for any of our season in the last 35 years

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SMU has a lot of money behind it.

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Cal isn't broke. Also, anyone who thinks we can't build a team, but can keep the team we have is ignorant of how college football works now.

College football is less about long tail team building than any sport outside of MLB, maybe.

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We need a Billy Beane to Moneyball Cal.

Don't we have a Bear braniac that can AI the sh@it out of this and construct the best team Cal can have taking into consideration the scholastic and financial limitations we labor under…….or at least figure out a way to make The Portal malfunction.

JKS started slow but rebounded to have a solid game in the end. I do think they were experimenting with different kinds of throws early on and went back to his comfort zone after halftime.

BearoutEast67 said:

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If I have to hear the color commentator say "Cal Berkeley" one more time, I'll pull the rest of my hair out.

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According to him, it was Cal Berkeley vs. TCU.

6-12 on third down not shabby

Was Ron Rivera on the sidelines?

Luck is, and he looks like he wants to call plays. He deff concerned

SouthKBear said:

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Was Ron Rivera on the sidelines?

Luck is, and he looks like he wants to call plays. He deff concerned

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Ron walked out for the coin toss

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LunchTime said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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LunchTime said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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SouthKBear said:

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At what game do you seem Wilcox getting fired? If we lose the next 3 (Including today) I would say he's gone.

And yes, JKS is gone too, unless we get a QB miracle working Head coach of a hire as soon as the season was over.

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The sad thing is when Wilcox gets canned, in todays college football, it's essentially like your program is in a death penalty. It's starting from 0 again.

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Is it? I would think the opposite. Literally can build any team you want the first year.

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I guess but typically building a team takes a few years. Unless you're an SEC team or getting 100m from the B1G. Imagine how insane this sounds.. ...we're talking about college football.

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false. look at SMU. i know they lost today but we will trade their last season for any of our season in the last 35 years

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SMU has a lot of money behind it.

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Cal isn't broke. Also, anyone who thinks we can't build a team, but can keep the team we have is ignorant of how college football works now.

College football is less about long tail team building than any sport outside of MLB, maybe.

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We need a Billy Beane to Moneyball Cal.

Don't we have a Bear braniac that can AI the sh@it out of this and construct the best team Cal can have taking into consideration the scholastic and financial limitations we labor under…….or at least figure out a way to make The Portal malfunction.

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Optimus is not ready, yet.

> Optimus is not ready, yet.

clueless, googled it..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_(robot)

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eastcoastcal said:

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For roughing the passet?? Lucky if he's not ejected that was bad

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lost for first half of Minnesota would be awful. Just freaking dumb. Really stooopid.

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Lmao, Minn is gonna stomp this team. Cade or no.

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Cal has ALWAYS played to the opponent under Wilcox.

Cal might lose, but it's pretty rare for a Wilcox team to get stomped. They lost 30 games last year by a combined 1 point.

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Yup, this is just par for the course in FCS games under Wilcox. We never look good and it doesn't mean anything.

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This post actually made me chuckle. Not because I disagree. I largely agree. But I think there is a portion of the analysis missing. We never look good and it doesn't mean anything. Except we never ARE good under Wilcox.

So while I agree that on an individual level it doesn't mean anything, I think taken as a whole it does mean something. Consistently playing down to vastly inferior competition is not nullified by playing much better against better competition when normally you play just well enough to lose to the better competition.


Successful teams are disciplined and motivated all of the time. That is in practice, the weight room, against inferior opponents, always. That is how you succeed when it counts. No one can be 100% on point 100% of the time. There are going to be bad days. That is why we say games like this don't mean anything. But they don't mean anything when you are normally on top of your game and it's an outlier. When it's not an outlier, it means something. Or if it is a consistent outcome and then you go on to success every year, it means little ( though I still think it isn't good). For us it is a consistent outcome and we go on to suck.

Maybe the coaches shouldn't go into these games thinking they are going to not take the opponent seriously and experiment all over the place or keep things vanilla. Give your opponent respect and prepare. Destroy them for a half and when your team has shown they can properly prepare for a game and play disciplined and energetic football, then you have earned the right to change the focus. Not coming out every opening kickoff ready to kick butt is a bad idea. Coming out of the tunnel ready to go is learned behavior and you should take every opportunity to learn it.

Am i worried about this game this season? No. However, so far we played a very bad OSU and drilled them not as much as we drilled them last year. We played uninspired against an FCS team. We did our jobs, not particularly impressively. In other words, we are playing August/September Wilcox football. The question is will we play October/November Wilcox football.

BearlyCareAnymore said:

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sycasey said:

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LunchTime said:

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falseintellect said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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For roughing the passet?? Lucky if he's not ejected that was bad

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lost for first half of Minnesota would be awful. Just freaking dumb. Really stooopid.

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Lmao, Minn is gonna stomp this team. Cade or no.

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Cal has ALWAYS played to the opponent under Wilcox.

Cal might lose, but it's pretty rare for a Wilcox team to get stomped. They lost 30 games last year by a combined 1 point.

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Yup, this is just par for the course in FCS games under Wilcox. We never look good and it doesn't mean anything.

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This post actually made me chuckle. Not because I disagree. I largely agree. But I think there is a portion of the analysis missing. We never look good and it doesn't mean anything. Except we never ARE good under Wilcox.

So while I agree that on an individual level it doesn't mean anything, I think taken as a whole it does mean something. Consistently playing down to vastly inferior competition is not nullified by playing much better against better competition when normally you play just well enough to lose to the better competition.


Successful teams are disciplined and motivated all of the time. That is in practice, the weight room, against inferior opponents, always. That is how you succeed when it counts. No one can be 100% on point 100% of the time. There are going to be bad days. That is why we say games like this don't mean anything. But they don't mean anything when you are normally on top of your game and it's an outlier. When it's not an outlier, it means something. Or if it is a consistent outcome and then you go on to success every year, it means little ( though I still think it isn't good). For us it is a consistent outcome and we go on to suck.

Maybe the coaches shouldn't go into these games thinking they are going to not take the opponent seriously and experiment all over the place or keep things vanilla. Give your opponent respect and prepare. Destroy them for a half and when your team has shown they can properly prepare for a game and play disciplined and energetic football, then you have earned the right to change the focus. Not coming out every opening kickoff ready to kick butt is a bad idea. Coming out of the tunnel ready to go is learned behavior and you should take every opportunity to learn it.

Am i worried about this game this season? No. However, so far we played a very bad OSU and drilled them not as much as we drilled them last year. We played uninspired against an FCS team. We did our jobs, not particularly impressively. In other words, we are playing August/September Wilcox football. The question is will we play October/November Wilcox football.

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I was thinking something like this during the game, that the team clearly came out of the gates fired up to play Oregon State and were not at all like that for this game. Could come back to bite us, as usual, if we get some tough losses and see another October spiral as we have become accustomed to.

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Golden One said:

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Brown is in now.

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Probably should have let Brown play the whole 4th quarter, but whatever...

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If JKS was a proven 4 year starter already then sure, we don't want to risk unnecessary injury. But as a true frosh working with a corp of new WRs and TEs I think the more real game reps JKS can get to get used to things and build a connection with his receivers the better.

StillNoStanfurdium said:

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BearSD said:

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Golden One said:

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Brown is in now.

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Probably should have let Brown play the whole 4th quarter, but whatever...

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If JKS was a proven 4 year starter already then sure, we don't want to risk unnecessary injury. But as a true frosh working with a corp of new WRs and TEs I think the more real game reps JKS can get to get used to things and build a connection with his receivers the better.

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your words. we don't want to risk unnecessary injury. don't want to have to throw Brown in cold. PS he looked composed in there.