m2bear said:
Well, will he?
It's why he's here, right?
calumnus said:Strykur said:
What does mean though, make Rolovich the coach?
Interim: Rivera head coach. Rolovich or better Troy Taylor OC.
There's a massive delta between having input and running the show. I believe he gives advice but, at the end of the day, it's on the coach to make the calls and fail or succeed on his own merit. It's not micromanaging it's just giving advice. There was an NFL team, can't remember the particulars, and their ownership or GM demanded a particular play be called and it ended up being a pick-6. Rivera isn't doing that, if his advice is listened to and fails or the coach ignores it that's still on the coach. We need to get a coach where he either is so good there's no need for outside adjustments or can incorporate them seamlessly to be successful. At the end of the day this is just one game but the body of work tells us that Wilcox ain't it and we need some reliefHKBear97! said:m2bear said:
Well, will he?
It's why he's here, right?
Why so much faith in Ron? He said during the sideline interview he attends all the practices and has input with the staff. That didn't seem to help with game prep this week, did it? Besides, his best days are well in the past.
And let's not forget there are $10.5 million reasons why it's pretty unlikely Wilcox is going anywhere anytime soon.
HKBear97! said:m2bear said:
Well, will he?
It's why he's here, right?
Why so much faith in Ron? He said during the sideline interview he attends all the practices and has input with the staff. That didn't seem to help with game prep this week, did it? Besides, his best days are well in the past.
And let's not forget there are $10.5 million reasons why it's pretty unlikely Wilcox is going anywhere anytime soon.
BearlyCareAnymore said:calumnus said:Strykur said:
What does mean though, make Rolovich the coach?
Interim: Rivera head coach. Rolovich or better Troy Taylor OC.
*** is this board's fixation with Rolovich?
1. Harsin is the coach. When the offense does well it is on him. When it does poorly it is on him.
2. Rolovich overall record: 33-33. Conference Record 19-22. Consistent over both his teams. Why do we perceive the guy as some guru?
BearlyCareAnymore said:HKBear97! said:m2bear said:
Well, will he?
It's why he's here, right?
Why so much faith in Ron? He said during the sideline interview he attends all the practices and has input with the staff. That didn't seem to help with game prep this week, did it? Besides, his best days are well in the past.
And let's not forget there are $10.5 million reasons why it's pretty unlikely Wilcox is going anywhere anytime soon.
There is faith in Ron because he was the best we were going to get and he is our only hope. You either have faith or you give up. He is a good hire. The best hire we could make probably by a longshot. But guys with his profile succeed and a they fail. Frankly, when he has been brought up as a coaching candidate before this board has had a much more mixed reaction. Those that now think he is definitely going to turn things around do so because the alternative is unthinkable to them.
We won't know anything about Ron positively or negatively until this offseason other than the fact that he loves the university and is trying as hard as he can.
Rushinbear said:BearlyCareAnymore said:HKBear97! said:m2bear said:
Well, will he?
It's why he's here, right?
Why so much faith in Ron? He said during the sideline interview he attends all the practices and has input with the staff. That didn't seem to help with game prep this week, did it? Besides, his best days are well in the past.
And let's not forget there are $10.5 million reasons why it's pretty unlikely Wilcox is going anywhere anytime soon.
There is faith in Ron because he was the best we were going to get and he is our only hope. You either have faith or you give up. He is a good hire. The best hire we could make probably by a longshot. But guys with his profile succeed and a they fail. Frankly, when he has been brought up as a coaching candidate before this board has had a much more mixed reaction. Those that now think he is definitely going to turn things around do so because the alternative is unthinkable to them.
We won't know anything about Ron positively or negatively until this offseason other than the fact that he loves the university and is trying as hard as he can.
Do we know whether Wilcox has incorporated even one of Ron's suggestions? How could we tell? If Ron gave him direction, it sure didn't look like it last night. Or, Ron gave him bad advice. Riiiiiiiiiight.
You missed Dook which is now looking like a difficult gameRushinbear said:Rushinbear said:BearlyCareAnymore said:HKBear97! said:m2bear said:
Well, will he?
It's why he's here, right?
Why so much faith in Ron? He said during the sideline interview he attends all the practices and has input with the staff. That didn't seem to help with game prep this week, did it? Besides, his best days are well in the past.
And let's not forget there are $10.5 million reasons why it's pretty unlikely Wilcox is going anywhere anytime soon.
There is faith in Ron because he was the best we were going to get and he is our only hope. You either have faith or you give up. He is a good hire. The best hire we could make probably by a longshot. But guys with his profile succeed and a they fail. Frankly, when he has been brought up as a coaching candidate before this board has had a much more mixed reaction. Those that now think he is definitely going to turn things around do so because the alternative is unthinkable to them.
We won't know anything about Ron positively or negatively until this offseason other than the fact that he loves the university and is trying as hard as he can.
Do we know whether Wilcox has incorporated even one of Ron's suggestions? How could we tell? If Ron gave him direction, it sure didn't look like it last night. Or, Ron gave him bad advice. Riiiiiiiiiight.
What happens if we beat BC and UNC? Just sayin'.
Rushinbear said:
What happens if we beat BC and UNC? Just sayin'.
annarborbear said:
The question now is just how important is having even more money to Justin Wilcox. Is greed all he wants to be known for looking back on his life? He can still be a quasi-hero if he will admit that this just isn't working and voluntarily steps down.
annarborbear said:
The question now is just how important is having even more money to Justin Wilcox. Is greed all he wants to be known for looking back on his life? He can still be a quasi-hero if he will admit that this just isn't working and voluntarily steps down.
Rushinbear said:Rushinbear said:BearlyCareAnymore said:HKBear97! said:m2bear said:
Well, will he?
It's why he's here, right?
Why so much faith in Ron? He said during the sideline interview he attends all the practices and has input with the staff. That didn't seem to help with game prep this week, did it? Besides, his best days are well in the past.
And let's not forget there are $10.5 million reasons why it's pretty unlikely Wilcox is going anywhere anytime soon.
There is faith in Ron because he was the best we were going to get and he is our only hope. You either have faith or you give up. He is a good hire. The best hire we could make probably by a longshot. But guys with his profile succeed and a they fail. Frankly, when he has been brought up as a coaching candidate before this board has had a much more mixed reaction. Those that now think he is definitely going to turn things around do so because the alternative is unthinkable to them.
We won't know anything about Ron positively or negatively until this offseason other than the fact that he loves the university and is trying as hard as he can.
Do we know whether Wilcox has incorporated even one of Ron's suggestions? How could we tell? If Ron gave him direction, it sure didn't look like it last night. Or, Ron gave him bad advice. Riiiiiiiiiight.
What happens if we beat BC and UNC? Just sayin'.
Strykur said:m2bear said:
I wish we had the Syracuse coach.
Now that guy is good!
He took over a program in the doldrums and made them nationally relevant, and a bunch of dumb****s on here think this program is beyond correcting
Golden One said:Rushinbear said:
What happens if we beat BC and UNC? Just sayin'.
That doesn't change anything. Wilcox will still be a terrible coach and the sting of the shutout loss to a bad FCS team is still there.
Rushinbear said:Golden One said:Rushinbear said:
What happens if we beat BC and UNC? Just sayin'.
That doesn't change anything. Wilcox will still be a terrible coach and the sting of the shutout loss to a bad FCS team is still there.
What if we win those two games? It's possible. Duke? Not so much.
movielover said:m2bear said:
I've never seen a team quit on a coach like I did tonight.
Absolutely no point in not firing Wilcox tonight.
The players already did tonight. We'll see if Ron heard them.
Why so? Unimaginative play calling?
Just 24 hours ago I was reading about BI wanting to extend Wilcox' contract 3 years.
Golden One said:Rushinbear said:Golden One said:Rushinbear said:
What happens if we beat BC and UNC? Just sayin'.
That doesn't change anything. Wilcox will still be a terrible coach and the sting of the shutout loss to a bad FCS team is still there.
What if we win those two games? It's possible. Duke? Not so much.
Frankly, it's hard to be optimistic after last night's disaster.
annarborbear said:
The question now is just how important is having even more money to Justin Wilcox. Is greed all he wants to be known for looking back on his life? He can still be a quasi-hero if he will admit that this just isn't working and voluntarily steps down.
BearlyCareAnymore said:annarborbear said:
The question now is just how important is having even more money to Justin Wilcox. Is greed all he wants to be known for looking back on his life? He can still be a quasi-hero if he will admit that this just isn't working and voluntarily steps down.
It is cute after all these years people still think our coach is going to walk away from millions of dollars of buyout money.
Calfan92 said:
Faydn Ott's stats this year at Oklahoma:
9 carries
17 yards
Strykur said:Golden One said:Rushinbear said:Golden One said:Rushinbear said:
What happens if we beat BC and UNC? Just sayin'.
That doesn't change anything. Wilcox will still be a terrible coach and the sting of the shutout loss to a bad FCS team is still there.
What if we win those two games? It's possible. Duke? Not so much.
Frankly, it's hard to be optimistic after last night's disaster.
I will mention, beating BC would be amusing but to think we are in a universe where we would lose at home to Duke in football, is incomprehensible
Strykur said:BearlyCareAnymore said:annarborbear said:
The question now is just how important is having even more money to Justin Wilcox. Is greed all he wants to be known for looking back on his life? He can still be a quasi-hero if he will admit that this just isn't working and voluntarily steps down.
It is cute after all these years people still think our coach is going to walk away from millions of dollars of buyout money.
Some coaches (like Dabo or Chip) have gobs of cash and can walk away from grumbling fans just to send a message, Wilcox is not that
This is a good theory. Inexcusable if true, but would make perfect sense given the results. and it would still be on Wilcoxmovielover said:
Clearly the team and coaches were unprepared and not focused. Did their heads get big being 3-0, were they partying in San Diego Friday night?
Having been through a similar scenario, I would be understanding of this if the coaches use the outcome to motivate the guys going forward but that is all out the window if we see the same **** in Bostonbearsandgiants said:This is a good theory. Inexcusable if true, but would make perfect sense given the results. and it would still be on Wilcoxmovielover said:
Clearly the team and coaches were unprepared and not focused. Did their heads get big being 3-0, were they partying in San Diego Friday night?
m2bear said:
As you can tell.
The players have quit on Wilcox.
It's not hard to see.
m2bear said:
Why is Ron here?
Defense was still in the locker room at kickoff but came out after halftimeTrumpanzee said:
Stayed in the locker room.
