Has Wilcox been fired ?

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Cal88
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DoubtfulBear said:

wifeisafurd said:

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That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


Sturdivant's career went to crap

WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left


Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.
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Wr1?
MilleniaBear
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With the exception of Mendoza the transfers have not exceeded their Cal success. The best of them is Nyziah Hunter who has equaled his Cal success. For many its clear that they realize their NFL prospects are nil and they should grab as much NIL $ as they can before they play in Canada.
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Holmoe and Wilcox are not equivalent. Holmoe never beat Stanfurd or went to a bowl game. Cal got put on probation for academic stuff that happened on Holmoe's watch.
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Cal88 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

wifeisafurd said:

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That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


Sturdivant's career went to crap

WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left


Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.

Florida is regularly watched by 5-6 million a game while we may be lucky to get a 1 million viewer game a season. He would be a virtual unknown at Cal. When was the last we sent a WR to the draft?
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DoubtfulBear said:

Cal88 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

wifeisafurd said:

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That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


Sturdivant's career went to crap

WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left


Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.

Florida is regularly watched by 5-6 million a game while we may be lucky to get a 1 million viewer game a season. He would be a virtual unknown at Cal. When was the last we sent a WR to the draft?



Don't you think he would have had more success and better results and ultimately higher visibility as JKS' primary target?

We could have been 7-3 or 8-2 and still in the ACC championship hunt with a reliable receiver to complement our current crew.
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DoubtfulBear said:

wifeisafurd said:

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That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


Sturdivant's career went to crap

WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left

We can agree that WR1 at Florida often is better than WR1 at Cal though not this year after looking DeJesus' production. Problem is Strudivant hasn't been WR1 anywhere other than Cal, including not being WR1 at Florida, and he certainly isn't getting drafted or much NIL.

At Cal he had 65 receptions and 755 yards and his production has been dropping ever since. Lucky if he even get 25 catches this year.
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DoubtfulBear said:

Cal88 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

wifeisafurd said:

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That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


Sturdivant's career went to crap

WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left


Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.

Florida is regularly watched by 5-6 million a game while we may be lucky to get a 1 million viewer game a season. He would be a virtual unknown at Cal. When was the last we sent a WR to the draft?

yea and those 5 tp 6 million people know both their team and Sturdivant suck.
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wifeisafurd said:

DoubtfulBear said:

wifeisafurd said:

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That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


Sturdivant's career went to crap

WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left

We can agree that WR1 at Florida often is better than WR1 at Cal though not this year after looking DeJesus' production. Problem is Strudivant hasn't been WR1 anywhere other than Cal, including not being WR1 at Florida, and he certainly isn't getting drafted or much NIL.

At Cal he had 65 receptions and 755 yards and his production has been dropping ever since. Lucky if he even get 25 catches this year.


That suggests that Burl Toler was a good WR coach for Cal. Not only did he recruit 4 star WRs to Cal (our highest rated recruits at any position), but they were also productive here, despite the bad offenses.
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Did Mateer visit Cal?
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MilleniaBear said:

Holmoe and Wilcox are not equivalent. Holmoe never beat Stanfurd or went to a bowl game. Cal got put on probation for academic stuff that happened on Holmoe's watch.

Holmoe faced Stanford teams that went to a Rose Bowl. Wilcox has faced Stanford teams that are among the worst in the country. Holmoe faced schedules that were among the toughest in the country. Wilcox has faced schedules that are among the easiest in P5. The result is that Holmoe's teams ranked better than Wilcox's overall.

This year is one of Wilcox's most successful teams and is ranked #75 in Sagarin, which is worse than Holmoe's first 4 teams (#58, #53, #64 and #61) and is only better than his disastrous final team (#115).

The bottom line is Holmoe and Wilcox are very comparable, with no team better than #50, always finishing in the bottom half of the conference. Wilcox is just benefiting from easier scheduling and the incompetence of Jim Knowlton.

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wifeisafurd said:


He should be. If he loses the Big Game he is gone IMO. He probably also has to beat SMU, but then again, what the F do I know? Most AD's (or GM's) want their own guy.

That is not how it works at Cal. You should know better.

Coach Justin earned another full season at the helm at the precise moment he reached the DECISIVE mark of GLORY, that is 5 WINS, when he barely beat now 4-6 North Carolina. The losses to VT & UV didn't matter in the least. Bears can lose the next 3 games including handing over the axe and in the Podunk Bowl in Dingleberry, Arkansaw, and finish 3-5 in conference and it won't matter at all.
5 WINS is the Cal mark of GLORY.
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DoubtfulBear said:

Cal88 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

wifeisafurd said:

BrightBear said:

That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


Sturdivant's career went to crap

WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left


Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.

Florida is regularly watched by 5-6 million a game while we may be lucky to get a 1 million viewer game a season. He would be a virtual unknown at Cal. When was the last we sent a WR to the draft?

That really has little to do with the draft.
Believe me, NFL scouts know where the players are. Plus the combine.
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Alkiadt said:

DoubtfulBear said:

Cal88 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

wifeisafurd said:

BrightBear said:

That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


Sturdivant's career went to crap

WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left


Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.

Florida is regularly watched by 5-6 million a game while we may be lucky to get a 1 million viewer game a season. He would be a virtual unknown at Cal. When was the last we sent a WR to the draft?

That really has little to do with the draft.
Believe me, NFL scouts know where the players are. Plus the combine.

Agreed 100%
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MilleniaBear said:

Holmoe and Wilcox are not equivalent. Holmoe never beat Stanfurd or went to a bowl game. Cal got put on probation for academic stuff that happened on Holmoe's watch.

In the Holmoe era, there weren't 5000 bowl games like there are now. Holmoe would have never gotten us into a crappy bowl game with only 6 wins.
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Golden One said:

MilleniaBear said:

Holmoe and Wilcox are not equivalent. Holmoe never beat Stanfurd or went to a bowl game. Cal got put on probation for academic stuff that happened on Holmoe's watch.

In the Holmoe era, there weren't 5000 bowl games like there are now. Holmoe would have never gotten us into a crappy bowl game with only 6 wins.


In 1998, Holmoe's second year, our OOC schedule was Houston, #4 Nebraska and @Oklahoma.

We beat Houston and Oklahoma. imagine if instead of Nebraska we added an FCS school and a cream puff for two easy wins like we have been doing with Wilcox? That would have made Holmoe 7-5 that year with a win over a ranked USC and losses to ranked UCLA and Arizona. Easily a bowl team with a Wilcox schedule.

The next year our OOC was Rutgers, @#5 Nebraska and @#24 BYU. We beat Rutgers and lost the other two. Imagine we replace Nebraska and BYU with an FCS and 2 G5 teams?

We beat USC, UCLA and ASU that year. That team could have been 7-5 and in a bowl with Wilcox's OOC scheduling.

People who look at Wilcox's overall record (still below .500) generally ignore how much easier his OOC scheduling has been, plus our now easier ACC conference schedule. Even with that he still loses nearly twice as many conference games as he wins.

He is basically Tom Holmoe with weaker scheduling and a longer contract.
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calumnus said:


In 1998, Holmoe's second year, our OOC schedule was Houston, #4 Nebraska and @Oklahoma.

We beat Houston and Oklahoma. imagine if instead of Nebraska we added an FCS school and a cream puff for two easy wins like we have been doing with Wilcox? That would have made Holmoe 7-5 that year with a win over a ranked USC and losses to ranked UCLA and Arizona. Easily a bowl team with a Wilcox schedule.

The next year our OOC was Rutgers, @#5 Nebraska and @#24 BYU. We beat Rutgers and lost the other two. Imagine we replace Nebraska and BYU with an FCS and 2 G5 teams?

We beat USC, UCLA and ASU that year. That team could have been 7-5 and in a bowl with Wilcox's OOC scheduling.

People who look at Wilcox's overall record (still below .500) generally ignore how much easier his OOC scheduling has been, plus our now easier ACC conference schedule. Even with that he still loses nearly twice as many conference games as he wins.

He is basically Tom Holmoe with weaker scheduling and a longer contract.

I completely agree. Wilcox is no better than Holmoe. They were/are both terrible head football coaches.
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^ golden one, u might wanna get ur eyeore depression meds checked this week, there's a football game with the potential for a 7th win being played this week in palo alto with a generation talent lefty bears qb1!!

kinda funny how the cal tv "fans" never discuss ACTUAL football games, they are stuck in the past with their now irrelevant memories of **** nobody cares about any more

this game will be largest decided by cal's monster offensive line which successfully started 4 new guys last week including unsung senior bastian swiinny at center who delivered the rock with accurate placement to JARON KEAWE SAGAPOLUTELE!!
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Shocky1 said:

^ golden one, u might wanna get ur eyeore depression meds checked this week, there's a football game with the potential for a 7th win being played this week in palo alto with a generation talent lefty bears qb1!!

kinda funny how the cal tv "fans" never discuss ACTUAL football games, they are stuck in the past with their now irrelevant memories of **** nobody cares about any more

this game will be largest decided by cal's monster offensive line which successfully started 4 new guys last week including unsung senior bastian swiinny at center who delivered the rock with accurate placement to JARON KEAWE SAGAPOLUTELE!!

I will be at the game at Stanfurd Stadium on Saturday, Shock. And I will celebrate our 7th win along with thousands of other Bear fans in attendance. But we should expect better than 7 wins. I want a future where 9 and 10 wins are the norm, and that will never happen under Wilcox.
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golden one, that's awesome ur gonna be in palo alto this saturday, hopefully we will meet up on the field after the game!!

shocky is a very optimistic person but if ur expectation are 9/10 wins every season ur gonna be disappointed as there's no high gpa school on planet earth that's gonna fulfill ur fantasy

and that's ok, the crimson tide with its disposable low gpa factory workers are always looking for new fans!!

what's ur take on coach anae's new starting 5 o-line??
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Shocky1 said:

golden one, that's awesome ur gonna be in palo alto this saturday, hopefully we will meet up on the field after the game!!

shocky is a very optimistic person but if ur expectation are 9/10 wins every season ur gonna be disappointed as there's no high gpa school on planet earth that's gonna fulfill ur fantasy

and that's ok, the crimson tide with its disposable low gpa factory workers are always looking for new fans!!

what's ur take on coach anae's new starting 5 o-line??


Would Notre Dame and possibly Michigan be the only two high academic schools in the country that routinely win 10+ games?
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oski003 said:

Shocky1 said:

golden one, that's awesome ur gonna be in palo alto this saturday, hopefully we will meet up on the field after the game!!

shocky is a very optimistic person but if ur expectation are 9/10 wins every season ur gonna be disappointed as there's no high gpa school on planet earth that's gonna fulfill ur fantasy

and that's ok, the crimson tide with its disposable low gpa factory workers are always looking for new fans!!

what's ur take on coach anae's new starting 5 o-line??


Would Notre Dame and possibly Michigan be the only two high academic schools in the country that routinely win 10+ games?

Minot State University does not qualify, only because we don't routinely win 10+ games.
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oski, would agree that notre dame (which has a billion dollar football budget & their own exclusive tv network in nbc) and michigan (shocky visited the mind boggling 100,000 seat sold out big house this summer playing at the alistar mackenzie university course across the street) sometimes achieve 9/10 wins but not always...michigan also has the capability of bringing in 2.5 gpa guys if necessary

minot, wut's the average high school gpa of msu??

is everybody excited to see in person new starting center bastian swinney can continue to deliver the rock on the money to jaron this saturday afternoon on the grass field in palo alto??
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Shocky1 said:



minot, wut's the average high school gpa of msu??



Probably like Nobel Laureate 4.25 GPA, but I haven't looked recently. I've been too focused on nuclear engineering problems. I do that in my off time. Like Cal, Minot State requires beer goggles.
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Shocky1 said:

oski, would agree that notre dame (which has a billion dollar football budget & their own exclusive tv network in nbc) and michigan (shocky visited the mind boggling 100,000 seat sold out big house this summer playing at the alistar mackenzie university course across the street) sometimes achieve 9/10 wins but not always...michigan also has the capability of bringing in 2.5 gpa guys if necessary

minot, wut's the average high school gpa of msu??

is everybody excited to new starting center bastian swinney can continue to deliver the rock on the money to jaron this saturday afternoon in palo alto??


I mean that is, fundamentally the problem.

1) The idea that Cal can be a perennial double digit winner belies how actually college football works with really only perhaps a handful of programs averaging above 8 or 9 wins over a prolonged periods of years. If you look at THOSE programs (Alabama, Oregon, tOSU) at least I would argue the team wags the dog that is the university. The highest winning percentage right now is Michigan at .733 which translates to 9 and 3 to 8-4 over the course of 12 games.

2) But there is pretty compelling narrative that Cal has to do this or better over some short period of time to get included in the next round of realignment. That is such a difficult crystal ball to figure out - up to and including bombshells like the B1G Private Equity saga.

3) Add in that this is not a particularly good era to be going to the Regents asking for an 8 figure bet. I was more optimistic up to last week when UCLA is positioning the regents to take a HUGE gamble in breaking the Rose Bowl lease. I just can't see them backing that bet _AND_ taking an 8 figure gamble on the next UCLA coach AND committing another 8 figures to Cal's next head coach when Wilcox could finish with possible _9_ victories this year. Add in that near as I can tell UCLA has "juice" on the regents but Cal does not. That is a real problem for team relevance and if you want to really advance ICA at Cal you HAVE to engage in a long term strategy to get a Cal-centric Regent appointed who cares about Cal Football. Protip - that is going to be a well placed person who donated gazzillions to democratic politicians and/or who has juice with labor.
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more importantly coach anae starting 4.0 gpa bastian swinney at center has not only improved the snaps to 3.75 gpa jaron keawe sagapolutele to keep the cal offense in rhythm but it's also allowed 3.8 gpa tyson ruffins to move back to his much more natural guard position & play with greater violence without worrying about snaps & ****

if cal's newsy revamped monster offensive line can control the line of scrimmage against a not deep stanford d-line then that will create opportunities in the rushing game while giving jks time to do this thing in the downfield vertical passing game while chewing up minutes on the clock and keep the cal d off the field

fall saturday rivalry games at the opponent's stadium are exciting but storming the field after a victory is EPIC!!
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Shocky1 said:

golden one, that's awesome ur gonna be in palo alto this saturday, hopefully we will meet up on the field after the game!!

shocky is a very optimistic person but if ur expectation are 9/10 wins every season ur gonna be disappointed as there's no high gpa school on planet earth that's gonna fulfill ur fantasy

and that's ok, the crimson tide with its disposable low gpa factory workers are always looking for new fans!!

what's ur take on coach anae's new starting 5 o-line??

Our new starting OL is obviously improved over its predecessors, but it's still no better than average on pass protection and below average on run blocking. OL recruiting is one of the many deficiencies of this Cal coaching staff. I'd love to see what JKS could do behind a first class OL, and I hope he doesn't have to transfer to another school to experience it.

I do believe Cal could achieve 9 or 10 wins under a good head coach. We did it three times under Jeff Tedford (2004, 2006, and 2008) with crappy facilities and an unsupportive administration. It just takes the right coach, and Wilcox isn't it.
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cal's o-line played it's best game of the season in louisville last saturday in the upset road victory against the #15 ranked team in the nation with 4 new starters plus moko!!

shocky has spoken to jeff tedford recently (have you too??) & he will be the 1st to tell u that wuz different times in college football before the arms race


curious how ur plan of firing wilcox works out from a financial perspective of paying off $15,000,000 in salaries & then hiring a new staff for another $15,000,000 in new salaries and still having $15,500,000 for nil funding while assembling this staff before the critical early january 10 day transfer portal window?

and do you have an actual name for this mythical coach that is willing to forego recruiting 2.5 gpa +1 athletes to be limited by berkeley's academic requirements with respects to gpas??

if u don't have a name then ur just talking outta ur azz and there's nothing wrong with that but it probably makes breathing kinda difficult or something
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Shocky1 said:

cal's o-line played it's best game of the season in louisville last saturday in the upset road victory against the #15 ranked team in the nation with 4 new starters plus moko!!

shocky has spoken to jeff tedford recently (have you too??) & he will be the 1st to tell u that wuz different times in college football before the arms race


curious how ur plan of firing wilcox works out from a financial perspective of paying off $15,000,000 in salaries & then hiring a new staff for another $15,000,000 in new salaries and still having $15,500,000 for nil funding while assembling this staff before the critical early january 10 day transfer portal window?

and do you have an actual name for this mythical coach that is willing to forego recruiting 2.5 gpa +1 athletes to be limited by berkeley's academic requirements with respects to gpas??

if u don't have a name then ur just talking outta ur azz and there's nothing wrong with that but it probably makes breathing kinda difficult or something

Face it Shock, a lot of posters talk out of their azz on this site, including you quite frequently. You'd be surprised how much money is there to support a Wilcox termination.
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Shocky1 said:

cal's o-line played it's best game of the season in louisville last saturday in the upset road victory against the #15 ranked team in the nation with 4 new starters plus moko!!

shocky has spoken to jeff tedford recently (have you too??) & he will be the 1st to tell u that wuz different times in college football before the arms race


curious how ur plan of firing wilcox works out from a financial perspective of paying off $15,000,000 in salaries & then hiring a new staff for another $15,000,000 in new salaries and still having $15,500,000 for nil funding while assembling this staff before the critical early january 10 day transfer portal window?

and do you have an actual name for this mythical coach that is willing to forego recruiting 2.5 gpa +1 athletes to be limited by berkeley's academic requirements with respects to gpas??

if u don't have a name then ur just talking outta ur azz and there's nothing wrong with that but it probably makes breathing kinda difficult or something


Shocky, you are making up a fake $45 million total of new money needed.

Moreover, by your logic we should have kept Knowlton and should not be wasting money on Rivera.

So do you advocate extending Wilcox or just playing out his contract without any extension?
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calumnus said:

Shocky1 said:

cal's o-line played it's best game of the season in louisville last saturday in the upset road victory against the #15 ranked team in the nation with 4 new starters plus moko!!

shocky has spoken to jeff tedford recently (have you too??) & he will be the 1st to tell u that wuz different times in college football before the arms race


curious how ur plan of firing wilcox works out from a financial perspective of paying off $15,000,000 in salaries & then hiring a new staff for another $15,000,000 in new salaries and still having $15,500,000 for nil funding while assembling this staff before the critical early january 10 day transfer portal window?

and do you have an actual name for this mythical coach that is willing to forego recruiting 2.5 gpa +1 athletes to be limited by berkeley's academic requirements with respects to gpas??

if u don't have a name then ur just talking outta ur azz and there's nothing wrong with that but it probably makes breathing kinda difficult or something


Shocky, by that logic we should have kept Knowlton and should not be wasting money on Rivera.

So do you advocate extending Wilcox or just playing out his contract without any extension?


RR does a lot more than fring and hiring football coaches. He is trying to get us to 8/9+ wins every year despite who we are.
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DoubtfulBear said:

Cal88 said:

DoubtfulBear said:

wifeisafurd said:

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That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


Sturdivant's career went to crap

WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left


Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.

Florida is regularly watched by 5-6 million a game while we may be lucky to get a 1 million viewer game a season. He would be a virtual unknown at Cal. When was the last we sent a WR to the draft?

I feel like it might have been Isaac Curtis in 1973. 15th pick in the 1st Round. 12 seasons with the Bengals. 3x 2nd team all-pro, 4 pro bowls, 416 receptions for 7,101 yards, and 53 touchdowns.
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SFCityBear said:

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BrightBear said:

That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).


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WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left


Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.

Florida is regularly watched by 5-6 million a game while we may be lucky to get a 1 million viewer game a season. He would be a virtual unknown at Cal. When was the last we sent a WR to the draft?

I feel like it might have been Isaac Curtis in 1973. 15th pick in the 1st Round. 12 seasons with the Bengals. 3x 2nd team all-pro, 4 pro bowls, 416 receptions for 7,101 yards, and 53 touchdowns.

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