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That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).

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Sturdivant's career went to crap

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WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left

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Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.

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Florida is regularly watched by 5-6 million a game while we may be lucky to get a 1 million viewer game a season. He would be a virtual unknown at Cal. When was the last we sent a WR to the draft?

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I feel like it might have been Isaac Curtis in 1973. 15th pick in the 1st Round. 12 seasons with the Bengals. 3x 2nd team all-pro, 4 pro bowls, 416 receptions for 7,101 yards, and 53 touchdowns.

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To the draft?
Wesley Walker.
Desean Jackson
Kennan Allen

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You forgot (from my college days onward) Bobby Shaw, Marvin Jones, Lavelle Hawkins, Chase Lyman, Dameane Douglas, Trevor Davis, Kenny Lawler, and Chad Hansen. That said, it's been about a decade since Cal WR was drafted. I still think if J Mike had stayed at Cal, he would've been a draft pick. But he chose to take his talents elsewhere (twice).

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Also Sean Dawkins who was a 1st round draft choice. Cal has produced a lot of good WRs over the years. And yes it has been a dry period for a while now. Development of the players they have had here recently has suffered. Case in point is Nikko Remigio who really took off at Fresno State. He is now with the KC Chiefs.

fwiw (not sure if it's been mentioned yet). on the MNF wrap up show with Larry Beil and Mike Pawlawski they said there was a Wilcox chant coming from locker room after the last W

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fwiw (not sure if it's been mentioned yet). on the MNF wrap up show with Larry Beil and Mike Pawlawski they said there was a Wilcox chant coming from locker room after the last W

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It has been heavily discussed primarily on the pay side of BI. JMO but that looked to be more like a tribute to a likely departing HC than an impromptu celebration.

It was a very nice. I am quite sure most of the players like JW personally. He is a nice enough person and likely much different than many HCs in how he interacts with the players. The staff are here because JW hired them and will always support him publicly.

Cal needs to win now. I am of the belief that a change is needed. I get it costs money. Some business decisions require difficult choices but are necessary to move the enterprise forward. IMO this is one of those decisions.

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cal's o-line played it's best game of the season in louisville last saturday in the upset road victory against the #15 ranked team in the nation with 4 new starters plus moko!!

shocky has spoken to jeff tedford recently (have you too??) & he will be the 1st to tell u that wuz different times in college football before the arms race

Berkeley vs UNC pic.twitter.com/NGPrgFTgwZ

— Reese Adams (@ReeseAdams76102) October 22, 2025

curious how ur plan of firing wilcox works out from a financial perspective of paying off $15,000,000 in salaries & then hiring a new staff for another $15,000,000 in new salaries and still having $15,500,000 for nil funding while assembling this staff before the critical early january 10 day transfer portal window?

and do you have an actual name for this mythical coach that is willing to forego recruiting 2.5 gpa +1 athletes to be limited by berkeley's academic requirements with respects to gpas??

if u don't have a name then ur just talking outta ur azz and there's nothing wrong with that but it probably makes breathing kinda difficult or something

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Shocky, you are making up a fake $45 million total of new money needed.

Moreover, by your logic we should have kept Knowlton and should not be wasting money on Rivera.

So do you advocate extending Wilcox or just playing out his contract without any extension?

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It is possible the total cost is $45M but $30M will be paid regardless. The only new costs will be the cost of a new staff. Wilcox and his staff and NIL are already baked into the cake. Cal has an enormous alumni base with a huge net worth. Rivera is no doubt attempting to tap into that to help cover costs. Also some of this shortfall can and will be covered by increased attendance. Cal has a very good home schedule next season (UCLA, Clemson and Stanford and VaTech with Franklin). I also anticipate that some of the current staffers will be retained under a new HC and may actually be welcomed by certain coaches that may be considered.

As to GPA's. Sure it makes it very difficult to compete with Alabama, Ohio St or some other blueblood programs that will accept nearly any student if they are elite at ball. Cal is not a national title contending program. But it is beyond ridiculous that Cal has a 15 season streak of non .500 conference records. But with a little investment and solid hiring Cal can be a tough out for anyone in the ACC and routinely draw 50K crowds to CMS. There are enough acceptable students that can play ball for Cal to be competitive. And the transfer portal and grad certificate programs have expanded the base of players.

Cal is trying to get some programs fully endowed so money can be shifted to football. I agree with many that Cal needs to take a serious look at reducing the total number of sports and downsize athletic bureaucrats. Including Jenny and Jay.

There are a lot of ways to make up any shortfalls but it takes some genuine hard work, courage and desire to make it happen.It may fail but I am 100% for trying. If you do not try Cal football and hoops gets relegated and all the programs suffer and University prestige is seriously harmed.

Cal is on the hook for Wilcox and staff already and they have committed to be a full particpant in the revenue share. So hiring a new HC and that staff is really the only new cost. JMO but if Cal is unwilling or unable to make a change and truly invest in football then why did they hire Rivera. They did hire him so I am willing to see if Ron can turn this ship around. Lyons needs to do his part and cut out the dead weight. Both in personnel and programs.

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That is not the issue Shocky. The issue is Wilcox doing the same stuff. Whenever we get something good it never stays. Fernando Mendoza, Jaydn Ott, Jet Thomas, Endries, Makai Polk, and the list goes on. Oh and the ineptness of the "MONSTER" offensive line. Justin Wilcox has let #aye run an OLine that folds like a bunch of cheap lawn chairs. So was last year. How do you whiff on so many offensive linemen ? And this year, it took JW 9 games to get that OLine corrected. I mean Ruffin was snapping the ball sideways and above a 6'3 quarterback. Every year, every year the MONSTER Offensive line just folds on their butt (however coach anae is slightly better).

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Sturdivant's career went to crap

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WR1 at Florida is still better than WR1 at Cal in terms of recruiting prospects. On top of all the NIL he's received since he left

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Disagree, Florida is 3-7, and I doubt their QB is in the same league as JKS. His NFL prospects would have been far better at Cal.

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Florida is regularly watched by 5-6 million a game while we may be lucky to get a 1 million viewer game a season. He would be a virtual unknown at Cal. When was the last we sent a WR to the draft?

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I feel like it might have been Isaac Curtis in 1973. 15th pick in the 1st Round. 12 seasons with the Bengals. 3x 2nd team all-pro, 4 pro bowls, 416 receptions for 7,101 yards, and 53 touchdowns.

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To the draft?
Wesley Walker.
Desean Jackson
Kennan Allen

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I apologize for trolling you guys, but at least I got the list started, which brought up the names of some really good Cal Bear wide receivers.