Perhaps this is Tosh's way of getting back at Cal for making him take the fall. I'm sure Sark reminded him of it only about ten million times. <br /><br />Still awful.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">freshfunk;682156 said:</div><hr>Someone needs to send this to shaq.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />JT can do it himself if he wants.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">LessMilesMoreTedford;682157 said:</div><hr>Perhaps this is Tosh's way of getting back at Cal for making him take the fall. I'm sure Sark reminded him of it only about ten million times. <br /><br />Still awful.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I am now thinking the fall had nothing to do with it, if it did that is so fuc#ing childish to the nth degree. I think $$ got to his brain, and all decency,integrity, and accountabilityt went out the damn window. It will come back to him a thousand fold. Mark my words

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;682028 said:</div><hr>So he played hard ball with Tosh and Tosh took him at his word<hr></blockquote><br /><br />No. You're not getting it. When an employee gets a competing offer, if they would prefer to stay at their current place they say "listen, I got this offer, but if you can match it I'll stay". That's what Tosh did. It is common practice that once that happens, that's it -- the guy stays. It is NOT common practice, and looked down upon (at least in business, which is what I can speak to) to then go to the other company and "shop the offer" -- "they matched it, can you do any better?". That is an unethical practice in and of itself.<br /><br />IF Lupoi did in fact do this (putting aside the timing, potential recruiting for Washington while still a Cal employee, and not telling his players he was leaving) it makes him at the very least "ethically challenged".<br /><br />I wish him nothing but losing seasons and poor recruiting classes in Seattle.

One important fact being overlooked.......<br />If Tedford is such a good coach, why all the possible defections from potential recruits?<br />If USC lost an assistant under Carroll, would recruits care much? Or a Stanford assistant under Harbaugh? The head coach generally IS the program in college. So why does Tedford command so little respect now? I know, I know, Tosh was a great recruiter and related well with the kids. But, for crying out loud, he was only the defensive line coach.....and immediately Shaq is wavering??? If we had a guy like<br />Harbaugh at the helm now, we'd be saying, "Tosh leaving? Too bad, but hey,<br />whatever, let's replace him and move one...." It's a big deal here for one main reason---Tedford has lost respect in many ways---his reputation as a quarterback guru has taken a beating (don't think new facilities will help here as not too many QBs are chomping at the bit to hit the new weightroom!); our offense has become stagnant, boring, and predictable; blowout losses now are common every year (none in his first several seasons), etc., etc. Don't get me wrong, maybe Tedford could have done better in this situation, maybe not---certainly Tosh "Benedict Arnold" Lupoi will live in infamy in Cal folklore over his lying to recruits and subsequent poaching. But it makes no sense that one departing assistant coach should have such a huge effect on our program.

If the 2010 Oregon thing really bothered Tosh that much, he could have left to coach with Wilcox at Tenn after the 2010 season when Wilcox came calling. Tenn probably could have easily beaten what Cal was paying.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">bear1027;682189 said:</div><hr>If the 2010 Oregon thing really bothered Tosh that much, he could have left to coach with Wilcox at Tenn after the 2010 season when Wilcox came calling. Tenn probably could have easily beaten what Cal was paying.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Tedford offered 300k. UW offered 550k x 3. Another way to look at it UW offered him a million bucks to blow up #calgang . It remains to be seen how the recruits outside of his position settle. The DL guys are most likely gone.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CalBarn;682180 said:</div><hr>One important fact being overlooked.......<br />If Tedford is such a good coach, why all the possible defections from potential recruits?<br />If USC lost an assistant under Carroll, would recruits care much? Or a Stanford assistant under Harbaugh? The head coach generally IS the program in college. So why does Tedford command so little respect now? I know, I know, Tosh was a great recruiter and related well with the kids. But, for crying out loud, he was only the defensive line coach.....and immediately Shaq is wavering??? If we had a guy like<br />Harbaugh at the helm now, we'd be saying, "Tosh leaving? Too bad, but hey,<br />whatever, let's replace him and move one...." It's a big deal here for one main reason---Tedford has lost respect in many ways---his reputation as a quarterback guru has taken a beating (don't think new facilities will help here as not to many QBs are chomping at the bit to hit the new weightroom!); our offense has become stagnant, boring, and predictable; blowout losses now are common every year (none in his first several seasons), etc., etc. Don't get me wrong, maybe Tedford could have done better in this situation, maybe not---certainly Tosh "Benedict Arnold" Lupoi will live in infamy in Cal folklore over his lying to recruits and subsequent poaching. But it makes no sense that one departing assistant coach should have such a huge effect on our program.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Actually I don't think it is that uncommon for a player to reconsider their commitment to a school when a coach leaves. Frankly, I think if Tedford can find a couple of good replacements on his staff we will see many of the recruits reconsolidate around their commitment to Cal. What is concerning to me is that at this point in the year most of the really good replacements have been picked over by all the 5 win teams who fired their coach the week after Thanksgiving. As much as Nickerson or some other blue minted alum might sound good to the fan base, I think Tedford needs to find a coach with some name brand appeal that replaces the perceived 1st round DL to the NFL thing that Tosh had.

I have a question, So if Tosh went to Shaq as a Cal Staff member and recruited him as a Husky, Does Cal lose an in home visit also since "someone" from Cal already made that visit this week? Last I check there is only one in home visit per week for an athlete by the school right?

Takes all kind to make a world.

Not going to sweat the small stuff. I was shocked to find out Tosh had "did us dirty," but I'm not going to get too worked up about it. He did what was best for him and he showed his true colors when it counted.<br /><br />There is no doubt Sark is trying to pay for those recruits. And Tosh knows it. He went for the short term money and it will wind up biting him in the ass at some point. He doesn't even realize that money isn't even life changing.<br /><br />But whatever, that's on him. I'll hope for the best come LOI day, but expect the worst. That's the life of a Cal fan way too many times. Until it's not. I thought the same way as a SF Giant fan.<br /><br />It's crap like this (and 2004) and the endless list of near misses that will make it that much sweeter when it does happen.<br /><br />I can tell you this as a lifelong 9er fan. Even if they win the SB this year (which would be amazing), no way it's like the '81 season when the 9ers won the SB for the first time. I didn't even have to wait that long as a fan.<br /><br />I can only imagine how glorious it will be when Cal makes and wins the RB. It will happen and it will make all this pain and suffering worth it. And the players (and coaches and AD) that bring us that RB will be immortalized by every Cal fan. You can count on it.<br /><br />My question to the recruits (now and in the future), do you want a shot at that immortality?

Not many schools face a mass exodus over one assistant. What's happening here is almost unprecedented proportion-wise. This type of thing generally happens when a head coach is rumored to be leaving. I would strongly disagree---the magnitude of this is VERY unusual. Just check out both boards since the Lupoi announcement---you'd have thought Armageddon was approaching on the premium board---seriously! Absolutely non-stop with rumors, panic, and total craziness all day and night since yesterday. Granted, I haven't been privy to inside doings at many other schools,<br />but I have to believe this situation is pretty unique. And most unbiased would agree,<br />a strong head coach right now would do much to assuage the panic. I'm afraid that many fear we could lose not just assistants, but potential great recruits if things don't settle down quickly.....

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CrimsonBear;682286 said:</div><hr>Not going to sweat the small stuff. I was shocked to find out Tosh had "did us dirty," but I'm not going to get too worked up about it. He did what was best for him and he showed his true colors when it counted.<br /><br />There is no doubt Sark is trying to pay for those recruits. And Tosh knows it. He went for the short term money and it will wind up biting him in the ass at some point. He doesn't even realize that money isn't even life changing.<br /><br />But whatever, that's on him. I'll hope for the best come LOI day, but expect the worst. That's the life of a Cal fan way too many times. Until it's not. I thought the same way as a SF Giant fan.<br /><br />It's crap like this (and 2004) and the endless list of near misses that will make it that much sweeter when it does happen.<br /><br />I can tell you this as a lifelong 9er fan. Even if they win the SB this year (which would be amazing), no way it's like the '81 season when the 9ers won the SB for the first time. I didn't even have to wait that long as a fan.<br /><br />I can only imagine how glorious it will be when Cal makes and wins the RB. It will happen and it will make all this pain and suffering worth it. And the players (and coaches and AD) that bring us that RB will be immortalized by every Cal fan. You can count on it.<br /><br />My question to the recruits (now and in the future), do you want a shot at that immortality?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Agree with you 100% :acclaim:

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CrimsonBear;682286 said:</div><hr>Not going to sweat the small stuff. I was shocked to find out Tosh had "did us dirty," but I'm not going to get too worked up about it. He did what was best for him and he showed his true colors when it counted.<br /><br />There is no doubt Sark is trying to pay for those recruits. And Tosh knows it. He went for the short term money and it will wind up biting him in the ass at some point. He doesn't even realize that money isn't even life changing.<br /><br />But whatever, that's on him. I'll hope for the best come LOI day, but expect the worst. That's the life of a Cal fan way too many times. Until it's not. I thought the same way as a SF Giant fan.<br /><br />It's crap like this (and 2004) and the endless list of near misses that will make it that much sweeter when it does happen.<br /><br />I can tell you this as a lifelong 9er fan. Even if they win the SB this year (which would be amazing), no way it's like the '81 season when the 9ers won the SB for the first time. I didn't even have to wait that long as a fan.<br /><br />I can only imagine how glorious it will be when Cal makes and wins the RB. It will happen and it will make all this pain and suffering worth it. And the players (and coaches and AD) that bring us that RB will be immortalized by every Cal fan. You can count on it.<br /><br />My question to the recruits (now and in the future), do you want a shot at that immortality?<hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Did you OD on the Zoloft?<br /><br />j/k...thats a pretty solid perspective you have. Unfortunately, I don't think one hypothetical rose bowl appearance could possibly offset all the years (for older alums, decades) of disappointment. Or maybe that's just me.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CrimsonBear;682286 said:</div><hr>Not going to sweat the small stuff. I was shocked to find out Tosh had "did us dirty," but I'm not going to get too worked up about it. He did what was best for him and he showed his true colors when it counted.<br /><br />There is no doubt Sark is trying to pay for those recruits. And Tosh knows it. He went for the short term money and it will wind up biting him in the ass at some point. He doesn't even realize that money isn't even life changing.<br /><br />But whatever, that's on him. I'll hope for the best come LOI day, but expect the worst. That's the life of a Cal fan way too many times. Until it's not. I thought the same way as a SF Giant fan.<br /><br />It's crap like this (and 2004) and the endless list of near misses that will make it that much sweeter when it does happen.<br /><br />I can tell you this as a lifelong 9er fan. Even if they win the SB this year (which would be amazing), no way it's like the '81 season when the 9ers won the SB for the first time. I didn't even have to wait that long as a fan.<br /><br />I can only imagine how glorious it will be when Cal makes and wins the RB. It will happen and it will make all this pain and suffering worth it. And the players (and coaches and AD) that bring us that RB will be immortalized by every Cal fan. You can count on it.<br /><br />My question to the recruits (now and in the future), do you want a shot at that immortality?<hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Dialogue from the movie: They Died with their boots on (1941)<br /><br />George Armstrong Custer: "You may be right about money, Sharp; quite right. But there's one thing to be said for glory. "<br /><br />Ned Sharp: "Yeah? What's that? "<br /><br />George Armstrong Custer: "You can take glory with you when it's your time to go."<br /><br />:gobears:

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CalBarn;682346 said:</div><hr><br />a strong head coach right now would do much to assuage the panic. I'm afraid that many fear we could lose not just assistants, but potential great recruits if things don't settle down quickly.....<hr></blockquote><br /><br />To me two things that to me suck the most about this (aside from Darth Lupoi's immediate assault on the temple):<br /><br />1) Tedford is nowhere to be found. I get the time crunch that damage control entails—but a few minutes with a key national reporter somewhere would help more than hurt. <br /><br />2) You just know Cal PR won't be able to get this story out there, whereas Oregon/Nike PR assaulted the media with injurygate <b><i>and made it national news for a week</i></b> in the middle of a season. <br /><br />... If Tosh is now our enemy we should take the legs out of his career/reputation with prejudice. The chance to get into the national news cycle window is dwindling... I know this stuff is not Tedford's style. Sigh.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">seattlebear02;682119 said:</div><hr>Someone send this to Ted Miller. Tosh needs to get exposed.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Miller reads here. If MB corroborates it... I'd be surprised if Miller doesn't give us a blubrb on it

<blockquote><div class="name-said">LafayetteBear;682440 said:</div><hr>Maybe Lupoi agreed to screw Cal in exchange for his Husky payday, but I think it is more likely that he harbored some resentment, and that is what induced him to twist the knife a bit after inserting it in JT's back.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Both things can be equally true, it isn't either or. Maybe he agreed to leave because of the payday, but decided to throw in a little f you on the way out because he was pissed, be it a perceived lack of pay, perceived lack of credit, injurygate, whatever.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">95bears;682426 said:</div><hr>To me two things that to me suck the most about this (aside from Darth Lupoi's immediate assault on the temple):<br /><hr></blockquote><br /><br />Great analogy!<br /><br /><a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y"""""" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y"""""</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""""</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""""</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y"""</a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y"""</a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y"""</a></a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y"""</a></a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="<a href="http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""</a>""" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""</a>""</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""</a>"</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""</a>"</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""</a></a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""</a></a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""</a></a></a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T_X_fHu7Y""</a></a></a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank">LINK</a>

<blockquote><div class="name-said">liBEARtyre04;682009 said:</div><hr>Aaron, I've met you and I trust what you say. This is disgusting. I'm sorry guys, I know teddy ain't perfect, but Tosh gets no love for me. The only time I want him to step on campus is to receive his bi-yearly asskicking<hr></blockquote><br /><br />+1. <br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">SnoozerBear;682051 said:</div><hr>Thanks for sharing this. Its hard to believe how Cal's success in recruiting, and the overall positive momentum, was disassembled by UW overnight. No doubt To$h sold out, but there is a degree of incompetence (or inability) exhibited by people at the top.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />No, it's not incompetence; it's called trust.<br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">tequila4kapp;682090 said:</div><hr>Come on DO, I know you hate JT but get real. <br /><br />To$h didn't come to the table saying 'I want the most money, match it or I'm gone.' He came with the 'my heart is here' speech, which is universally understood to mean that a person will stay if their employer matches the offer. JT told him how much he meant then went to bat for him to DOUBLE his salary (not an insignificant bump in compensation ever, much less one year after getting a 25% increase). JT told him he couldn't go to the well again and To$h gave his word that he would not go back to UW to start a bidding war...then he did just that. Then he doesn't show for the recruiting trip, leaving JT in a lurch; then he leaves a voice message; this after he told Shaq the night before that he was thinking about leaving, etc. <br /><br />If this accounting is accurate - and I know Aaron enough to trust that his sources are exceedingly solid - then To$h's actions are scum. He so easily could have come to JT and said he wanted the payday, was going to take UW's offer but would leave after LOI or leave before LOI but not continue to recruit the same kids. And speaking of that, there's a code here that To$h violated - <b>JT and Cal released him to speak with UW when they didn't have to. The quid pro quo for being granted an opportunity to make more money and leave is that you do it with class. To$h fundamentally violated that trust.</b> **** him. <br /><br />Put your hatred aside for a moment and recognize this for what it is - To$h ass raped us, no condom, no beer, no goodbye. <br /><br />Order of anger:<br />1. To$h<br />2. Sark<br />3. Sandy / Administration (not having the ability/willingness to pay what it takes to keep top talent)<br /><br />That's it. JT doesn't make the list.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />+1.<br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">bear1027;682153 said:</div><hr>This accounting lines up with the fact that Tedford and Coach Thompson had Lupoi doing an in-home visit for Cal the night before he switched. No way Tedford and Coach Thompson have a potential UW coach do an in-home visit with a recruit who had UW in his top 3. If reports were swirling that UW was going hard after Tosh, Tedford and Coach Thompson had to be sure that Tosh was all Cal before sending him to see Shaq. <br /><br />If it did go down this way, it's disappointing to see him be so deceitful. No matter how it went down, it was disappointing to hear that he reached out to recruit Shaq to UW before telling his DL players at Cal that he was leaving.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Perhaps we should add "Lupoi'd" to our Bear Insider lexicon, meaning to breach trust, sell out, and act in an unethical manner all in exchange for the big payday.

Really? Sandy admin #3? One would have to really be divorced from reality if you think now is the time in this state to more than double the pay of an assistant coach to more than 10x the salary of a teacher and more than the chancelor who is already criticized for being overpaid and when you are akso stuck overpaying the head coach. <br /><br />UOTE=tequila4kapp;682090]Come on DO, I know you hate JT but get real. <br /><br />To$h didn't come to the table saying 'I want the most money, match it or I'm gone.' He came with the 'my heart is here' speech, which is universally understood to mean that a person will stay if their employer matches the offer. JT told him how much he meant then went to bat for him to DOUBLE his salary (not an insignificant bump in compensation ever, much less one year after getting a 25% increase). JT told him he couldn't go to the well again and To$h gave his word that he would not go back to UW to start a bidding war...then he did just that. Then he doesn't show for the recruiting trip, leaving JT in a lurch; then he leaves a voice message; this after he told Shaq the night before that he was thinking about leaving, etc. <br /><br />If this accounting is accurate - and I know Aaron enough to trust that his sources are exceedingly solid - then To$h's actions are scum. He so easily could have come to JT and said he wanted the payday, was going to take UW's offer but would leave after LOI or leave before LOI but not continue to recruit the same kids. And speaking of that, there's a code here that To$h violated - JT and Cal released him to speak with UW when they didn't have to. The quid pro quo for being granted an opportunity to make more money and leave is that you do it with class. To$h fundamentally violated that trust. **** him. <br /><br />Put your hatred aside for a moment and recognize this for what it is - To$h ass raped us, no condom, no beer, no goodbye. <br /><br />Order of anger:<br />1. To$h<br />2. Sark<br />3. Sandy / Administration (not having the ability/willingness to pay what it takes to keep top talent)<br /><br />That's it. JT doesn't make the list.<hr></blockquote>

<blockquote><div class="name-said">maxer;682170 said:</div><hr>No. You're not getting it. When an employee gets a competing offer, if they would prefer to stay at their current place they say "listen, I got this offer, but if you can match it I'll stay". That's what Tosh did. It is common practice that once that happens, that's it -- the guy stays. It is NOT common practice, and looked down upon (at least in business, which is what I can speak to) to then go to the other company and "shop the offer" -- "they matched it, can you do any better?". That is an unethical practice in and of itself.<hr></blockquote>Especially when you've promised the current employer that you won't use their matching offer as leverage

<blockquote><div class="name-said">HaasBear04;682369 said:</div><hr>Did you OD on the Zoloft?<br /><br />j/k...thats a pretty solid perspective you have. Unfortunately, I don't think one hypothetical rose bowl appearance could possibly offset all the years (for older alums, decades) of disappointment. Or maybe that's just me.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Quick anecdote. One of my best friends in B-school was a DIEHARD Red Sox fan. I mean diehard. One of the big reasons he chose HBS over Stanford was that he wanted to be able to still go to Sox games. (After graduation, he stayed in Boston and worked at Fidelity instead of taking a 1.5x offer to work on Wall Street.) Obviously there were other factors, but he seriously took being able to watch his Sox as a major variable in life decisions. It's actually one of the reasons we get along so well. I don't think he is nuts. <br /><br />Fast forward to 2004, we all know what happened with the Red Sox coming back from 0-3 against the Yankees and winning the WS. He told me he literally cried like a baby when it finally happened (and he is a pretty tough dude). It meant that much to him. And a big part of it was all the hardship he had to endure as a Red Sox fan.<br /><br />After they won it again in 2006, he was overjoyed, but it was not like 2004. He told me nothing in his life (as far as sports is concerned) will EVER come close to 2004. If anything, he's pretty bummed that with all the success, his team has become like his worst enemy, the Yankees.<br /><br />This Tosh incident will be a small footnote in Cal history when our Golden Bears win the RB. And it will make it just a bit sweeter. Just like losing Snyder, Kneepads, Toejam cheating, etc.

I could now believe that the faking of injuries was all Lupoi's idea. That would be right in line with his unethical conduct.

Someone should start a poll on this question. Who was responsible for calling the code red against Oregon last yr?. If it was on Tosh, then his true color showed last yr(so this should be no surprise), but then it was fashionable to write it off as gamesmanship.<br /><br />Now if it was JT, then it shows "his" lack of character and class to let Tosh take the blame for the fiasco(ie-trip and push under public transit). Perhaps subconsciously, Tosh wanted to get back at the institution and person responsible for his humiliating situation last year. <br /><br />I would guess 2/3rd of the people on here think it was JT who called for the code red.

Believe me, Ethical conduct versus unethical conduct is a slippery slope. I see NCAA violations next.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">mdcspe69;682476 said:</div><hr>Believe me, Ethical conduct versus unethical conduct is a slippery slope. I see NCAA violations next.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Heard Willie Lyles sold the report to Sark revealing what screen name Tosh used on Xbox. But given the scrutiny now, Sark retroactively asked for a invoice for COD cheater notes in addition username.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">alarsuel;682449 said:</div><hr>Both things can be equally true, it isn't either or. Maybe he agreed to leave because of the payday, but decided to throw in a little f you on the way out because he was pissed, be it a perceived lack of pay, perceived lack of credit, injurygate, whatever.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Pretty much right on the money...your sources are correct from what I know for the most part

Expose the Toshtitute!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Cal_Fan2;682489 said:</div><hr>Pretty much right on the money...your sources are correct from what I know for the most part<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I've been chomping at the bit to say something. It seems that you and jesterno2 were having the same dilemma. Hope I took some pressure off you guys. I don't want to burn anyone, but it is worth being the bad guy with my sources for a bit to get the truth out there. The board at large deserves it. Seems that you are getting similar info and that we are getting to the bottom of this.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">biely medved;682458 said:</div><hr>really? Sandy admin #3? One would have to really be divorced from reality if you think now is the time in this state to more than double the pay of an assistant coach to more than 10x the salary of a teacher and more than the chancelor who is already criticized for being overpaid and when you are akso stuck overpaying the head coach. <br /> <br /><hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Total red herring argument. This is ESPN money for football broadcasts paying these football coaches. Which TV channel on your cable bill pays for a teacher?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">alarsuel;682500 said:</div><hr>I've been chomping at the bit to say something. It seems that you and jesterno2 were having the same dilemma. Hope I took some pressure off you guys. I don't want to burn anyone, but it is worth being the bad guy with my sources for a bit to get the truth out there. The board at large deserves it. Seems that you are getting similar info and that we are getting to the bottom of this.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Glad you could.....more to the story but Tosh really screwed the pooch in more ways than one...sent you a PM...thanks

Damn. If all of this is true, Lupoi sold out his reputation and respectability for a $300k raise. Kinda cheap, don'tcha think?<br /><br />I guess today's snowstorm in Seattle was Mother Nature's way of saying, "Tosh? You're kind of a...."

<blockquote><div class="name-said">510Bear;682641 said:</div><hr>Damn. If all of this is true, Lupoi sold out his reputation and respectability for a $300k raise. Kinda cheap, don'tcha think?<br /><br />I guess today's snowstorm in Seattle was Mother Nature's way of saying, "Tosh? You're kind of a...."<hr></blockquote><br /><br />After taxes, it's not even that much (even if there are no state taxes in WA). Point is that he made a bad calculation and sold himself short. Congrats, you ruined your reputation and name for how much?<br /><br />Nobody is giving him sh*t for taking the money, it's how he did it. Just a dumb*ss call on his part.<br /><br />That article in ESPN now rings completely hollow.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CrimsonBear;682659 said:</div><hr>After taxes, it's not even that much (even if there are no state taxes in WA). Point is that he made a bad calculation and sold himself short. Congrats, you ruined your reputation and name for how much?<br /><br />Nobody is giving him sh*t for taking the money, it's how he did it. Just a dumb*ss call on his part.<br /><br />That article in ESPN now rings completely hollow.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Not completely my friend...I mean, JT is not without some blame but Tosh played him, Sandy AND Cal for fools after giving his word he's stay after we matched 2 offers.....I don't know what more Cal could do without breaking the bank...for those who still want to blame someone, Tosh gave his word he'd stay at Cal for the new raise..and then stabbed them in the back.....