ASU's new stadium

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vadin
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It looks like ASU is finally going to remodel Sun Devil Stadium. The PAC 12 AD's are sure ramping up the arms race. In the next few years, most of the PAC 12 teams will be in new or remodeled stadiums.

These are preliminary renderings. It'll be interesting to see what the final ones will look like. It will be unique in the league. Kind of Euro-looking.
http://www.thesundevils.com/sports/stadium/spec-rel/040412aaa.html



HairOfTheBear
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Cool airplane hanger
NYCGOBEARS
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Funky looking. Kinda cool. Even with it covered, it seems like it'd be really warm in there in the early fall.
vadin
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HairOfTheBear;733343 said:

Cool airplane hanger

Haha. Moffett Field meets University of Phoenix Stadium. LOL
ColoradoBear
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FingeroftheBear;733346 said:

So they're gonna put a big patio cover over it. Does that mean day games? Don't know the material but it'll still retain heat.


Seems strange to spend money on a cover if they can just play night games (maybe that's not always the case with the new TV contract, though two teams wilting in 110 degree heat is not good TV for sure). The cover will keep things cooler in the day since there will be no direct exposure to sunlight. I would hope they have enough air circulation to cool it off for the night, but I would laugh if it made things worse. Seems like a big waste for 6-7 home games. Also, it seems like lots of people have been having problems with their soft canopies collapsing and this doesn't look to be the sturdiest of designs.

And what is going to happen to it when one of these hits:




And here is an interesting article on how ASU might pay for the stadium:

http://www.statepress.com/2010/09/26/business-fee-to-fund-sun-devil-stadium-renovation/

ASU is now allowed to set up some kind of tax district around the university. So it's not technically public money, but it is money that ASU could use for something less frivolous if they chose to.


FingeroftheBear;733346 said:


Anywho, glad Cal is out in front on the stadium stuff. CMS is going to be hard to beat and in California we hold the advantage since U$C has to deal with the Coliseum commission and f'UCLA the Rose Bowl.


UW will probably have the 'best' stadium for the money when they are done (though not visually nice). It will still have the erector set quality that you see at stanford, but they will pack in 70k, most between the goal lines with the roofs to trap the noise, and will build a few nice sections for the club areas. Half of the cost of CMS is due to the fault, and UW doesn't have to spend on that kind of thing (though everything in seattle is woefully underbuilt for a 9.0 quake, something that is possible there, but not in the bay area).

Coliseum is a horrible old venue for USC if they can't get more control over it, but it is essentially free and is close to avoid the stigma of off campus like UCLA. UCLA is getting hooked up financially because Pasadena is paying for Rose Bowl upgrades, which should make the place significantly nicer, but of course won't make it any closer. They are pretty much locked into 2040, so even if LA builds a NFL stadium downtown, UCLA can't move for a while.
Phantomfan
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eh... They'll still have the same fans.

BTW, anyone see the ASU billboard next to Oakland Tech on Broadway?

ASU decided that it was more cost effective to just start saying they are a good school than actually being a good school.
muddlehead1
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""eh... They'll still have the same fans.""

or lack of

not that an a's fan (or a bears fan - last year's fresno state at the stick comes to mind) should point fingers...
ColoradoBear
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SacCityBear;733379 said:


The timeline seems awfully close with it needing 2-5 years to generate the funds for a renovation that HAS to be done in 5-8 years. I wouldn't be surprised to see them sell bonds to get the money faster.


The tax was introduced 2 years ago.... at least the article was written 2 years ago... interesting that they were planning this well before the homerun Pac 12 contract.

I've seen the $300 million number floating around. I also though PHX was one of the hardest hit, brokest places, at least in terms of the real estate bubble and unemployment. I also looked up their AD revenue in the USA Today database - for 2009-10:

ASU: $57 million AD budget, $10.3 million in institutional support
Cal: $69 million AD budget, $9.9 million in institutional support

However, this special tax revenue is going to reduce the financing burden on ASU... not sure how much easier though. Can't find anything about how much it's actually bringing in. Would think they issue bonds now and let the tax run for many, many years to pay off the building.
Adrian The Cal Bear
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Well I think it looks kind of cool...but it can't beat our Memorial Stadium with it's amazing view of the Bay.
bencgilmore
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ColoradoBear1;733364 said:

Half of the cost of CMS is due to the fault, and UW doesn't have to spend on that kind of thing (though everything in seattle is woefully underbuilt for a 9.0 quake, something that is possible there, but not in the bay area).



wasn't the 1906 quake > 9? Or was it 8 something?
Boot
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Arizona,what a waste of water.
Phantomfan
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Boot;733572 said:

Arizona,what a waste of water.


HA!


I'm going to start using that...

Maybe a sign for when we play those sh*tty schools.
Cal_Fan2
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Adrian The Cal Bear;733469 said:

Well I think it looks kind of cool...but it can't beat our Memorial Stadium with it's amazing view of the Bay.


I agree...it does look very cool, somewhat like a Euro soccer stadium. That's the way I'd go in a sunny environment, but like earlier said, their fans are still on par with Oregon as far as "class" goes.....
510Bear
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Phantomfan;733365 said:

eh... They'll still have the same fans.

BTW, anyone see the ASU billboard next to Oakland Tech on Broadway?

ASU decided that it was more cost effective to just start saying they are a good school than actually being a good school.


There's another one in Santa Clara. I guess ASU is stealing a page from USC....screw actually improving the quality of your school, why go through the trouble of doing that when marketing solves all problems?
vadin
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FingeroftheBear;733346 said:

So they're gonna put a big patio cover over it. Does that mean day games? Don't know the material but it'll still retain heat.


This was posted on an architectural forum about this roof proposal.
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Depends on what its made of, if the idea is a sunshade primarily then they should be able to use a material that can breathe and disapate heat. Also using a white reflective screen over the structure should mean that it would absorb very little heat during the day which would be just as big a problem, atleast with a concrete stucture (which could radiate heat for hours if it were baking in the sun all day). Also keep in mind the gap between the upper deck and the roof as well as the large gaps in the ends which should allow for pretty decent cooling via convection if it were heating up.
Son-of-California
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With those wings/flaps, it looks like a panty-liner or some sort of diaper.
510Bear
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What would be funny is if the budget for this project gets cut, and the "renovated" stadium ends up just being the old stadium with this ugly tampon/panty-liner thing plunked on top of it.
chazzed
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I'm not into the aesthetics, but maybe we should keep form over function in mind here. If they're not going to play more day games, though, then it doesn't seem to add up.
FiatSlug
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There's also an ASU billboard clearly visible from BART as the train leaves the downtown Oakland subway on its way to MacArthur station. I think it says something about ASU being 100% online.

Not sure, as I didn't pay too much attention beyond the Arizona State (or ASU) mention.
FiatSlug
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The '06 quake was estimated at between 7.7 to 8.3 depending on who's doing the estimating. See the USGS website on the 1906 Earthquake, here.
kasaja
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All these AD's better hope the tv money keeps flowing. Many in the business think it has hit a tipping point where the networks are just not going to be able to survive the sports arms with out killing their bottom lines. It will be interesting to see how to all unfolds.
burritos
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Boot;733572 said:

Arizona,what a waste of water.


Yeah, it's not like they damned up the hetch hetchy or anything like that.
Bobby Hill
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FingeroftheBear;733346 said:

So they're gonna put a big patio cover over it. Does that mean day games? Don't know the material but it'll still retain heat.

Anywho, glad Cal is out in front on the stadium stuff. CMS is going to be hard to beat and in California we hold the advantage since U$C has to deal with the Coliseum commission and f'UCLA the Rose Bowl.


USC is close to signing an agreement (Master lease) with the Coliseum Commission that would effectively put USC in charge of the venue and somewhat disband the Commission.

Here's an article from the Daily Trojan on the matter:

http://dailytrojan.com/2012/04/04/usc-to-receive-master-lease-for-coliseum/
vadin
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Here's the current progress of Wazzu's renovation. What a transformation from the previous little pressbox.
calbare
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Did anyone else read through this thread in the hopes that someone posted pictures of ASU cheerleaders??
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