Looks like there might be a serious Bauer Outage in LA.

Will the Dodgers and Trevor choke the season away?

His side of it is that a lady from San Diego dm'd him to travel to L.A. for some rough sex that involved choking and he has messages to prove it, even pleasant messages after the second romp. She later got a temp restraining order and is now accusing him of assault. We shouldn't be quick to jump to conclusions. He is scheduled to pitch on Sunday.

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His side of it is that a lady from San Diego dm'd him to travel to L.A. for some rough sex that involved choking and he has messages to prove it, even pleasant messages after the second romp. She later got a temp restraining order and is now accusing him of assault. We shouldn't be quick to jump to conclusions. He is scheduled to pitch on Sunday.

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He's a baseball player, and one who has been on your team for all of three months. I wouldn't be so quick to defend him. I was not going to post on here about this story because it's not a good story or a laughing matter. But since you relayed his claims, I'll relay hers:

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On Tuesday, a 27-year-old woman from San Diego obtained a temporary restraining order from the Los Angeles Superior Court against Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer. The woman's request for the order, which has been obtained by The Athletic, describes two incidents in which Bauer allegedly assaulted her, and includes a hospital examination report that states she suffered "assault by manual strangulation" during a sexual encounter with Bauer.

The court filings describe, in graphic detail, two separate encounters that the woman says she had with Bauer, both of which started consensually but turned into assault. During the first encounter, which the woman says occurred in April, Bauer allegedly wrapped the woman's hair around her neck and choked her until she lost consciousness. The woman says that she later woke up, face down on the bed and disoriented, and realized that Bauer was penetrating her anus, which she did not consent to.

The woman's official declaration describes another encounter, which she says took place on May 15, during which Bauer again choked her during sex until she lost consciousness, at which point Bauer began punching her. From The Athletic:

The report says on the night of May 15, 2021, Bauer invited the woman to his house again and this time asked her to agree on a safe word. About five minutes into sex, she said that he began choking her again, at which point she lost consciousness and "was unable to speak or move my body." She says when she regained consciousness, Bauer was punching her head: "This was the first punch I felt but it is very possible that Trevor had already been punching and scratching the right side of my face while I was unconscious. Trevor then punched me hard with a closed fist to the left side of my jaw, the left side of my head, and both cheekbones. I remember this vividly and it was extremely startling and painful. I was absolutely frozen and terrified. I could not speak or move. After punching me several times, he then flipped me back onto my stomach and began choking me with hair. I lost consciousness again."

The woman said she had a terrible pain behind both of her ears and detailed tasting blood, as if her lip was split open. The woman said that when she regained consciousness, she was crying and shaking violently and that Bauer said to her repeatedly: "You're safe. I'm here. You're safe." He began scratching her back and whispered to her, "I would never do those things to you if it wasn't sexually."

The Athletic reports that the woman provided the court with multiple pictures that were taken after the second encounter, which show her with a visibly swollen and bruised face. The declaration also states that the woman went to the emergency room the day after the second encounter and was diagnosed with an acute head injury and assault by manual strangulation.

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I certainly tease and talk trash in this thread. But I suggest we end discussion of the allegations against Bauer here, at least until the case plays out in full.

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His side of it is that a lady from San Diego dm'd him to travel to L.A. for some rough sex that involved choking and he has messages to prove it, even pleasant messages after the second romp. She later got a temp restraining order and is now accusing him of assault. We shouldn't be quick to jump to conclusions. He is scheduled to pitch on Sunday.

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He's a baseball player, and one who has been on your team for all of three months. I wouldn't be so quick to defend him. I was not going to post on here about this story because it's not a good story or a laughing matter. But since you relayed his claims, I'll relay hers:

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On Tuesday, a 27-year-old woman from San Diego obtained a temporary restraining order from the Los Angeles Superior Court against Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer. The woman's request for the order, which has been obtained by The Athletic, describes two incidents in which Bauer allegedly assaulted her, and includes a hospital examination report that states she suffered "assault by manual strangulation" during a sexual encounter with Bauer.

The court filings describe, in graphic detail, two separate encounters that the woman says she had with Bauer, both of which started consensually but turned into assault. During the first encounter, which the woman says occurred in April, Bauer allegedly wrapped the woman's hair around her neck and choked her until she lost consciousness. The woman says that she later woke up, face down on the bed and disoriented, and realized that Bauer was penetrating her anus, which she did not consent to.

The woman's official declaration describes another encounter, which she says took place on May 15, during which Bauer again choked her during sex until she lost consciousness, at which point Bauer began punching her. From The Athletic:

The report says on the night of May 15, 2021, Bauer invited the woman to his house again and this time asked her to agree on a safe word. About five minutes into sex, she said that he began choking her again, at which point she lost consciousness and "was unable to speak or move my body." She says when she regained consciousness, Bauer was punching her head: "This was the first punch I felt but it is very possible that Trevor had already been punching and scratching the right side of my face while I was unconscious. Trevor then punched me hard with a closed fist to the left side of my jaw, the left side of my head, and both cheekbones. I remember this vividly and it was extremely startling and painful. I was absolutely frozen and terrified. I could not speak or move. After punching me several times, he then flipped me back onto my stomach and began choking me with hair. I lost consciousness again."

The woman said she had a terrible pain behind both of her ears and detailed tasting blood, as if her lip was split open. The woman said that when she regained consciousness, she was crying and shaking violently and that Bauer said to her repeatedly: "You're safe. I'm here. You're safe." He began scratching her back and whispered to her, "I would never do those things to you if it wasn't sexually."

The Athletic reports that the woman provided the court with multiple pictures that were taken after the second encounter, which show her with a visibly swollen and bruised face. The declaration also states that the woman went to the emergency room the day after the second encounter and was diagnosed with an acute head injury and assault by manual strangulation.

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I certainly tease and talk trash in this thread. But I suggest we end discussion of the allegations against Bauer here, at least until the case plays out in full.

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Sure. I was clearly responding to this comment:

"Looks like there might be a serious Bauer Outage in LA.
Will the Dodgers and Trevor choke the season away?"

and I clearly stated

"We shouldn't be quick to jump to conclusions."

He may be innocent or he may be guilty.

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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chazzed said:

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chazzed said:

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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The Dodgers lost in the World Series to the caught cheating Astros. What a total failure. Your analysis is ludicrous. You have a little man complex. It is pretty funny because your teams are historically in the top 25% in payroll. Well, it is always nice to not live in reality.

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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When somebody posts "The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . .", it says to me that the poster thinks the Dodgers will struggle.

Anyway, you can call the 2020 season bogus until you're (Dodger) blue in the face, but LA was clearly the class of MLB last year and took home the hardware.

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chazzed said:

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chazzed said:

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Cal8285 said:

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GMP said:

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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When somebody posts "The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . .", it says to me that the poster thinks the Dodgers will struggle.

Anyway, you can call the 2020 season bogus until you're (Dodger) blue in the face, but LA was clearly the class of MLB last year and took home the hardware.

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LOL, the one time this century that the Dodgers win the WS and it was the year that pretty much didn't count... and then they fueled COVID all over SoCal. Way to go, you bums!

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chazzed said:

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chazzed said:

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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When somebody posts "The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . .", it says to me that the poster thinks the Dodgers will struggle.

Anyway, you can call the 2020 season bogus until you're (Dodger) blue in the face, but LA was clearly the class of MLB last year and took home the hardware.

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LOL, the one time this century that the Dodgers win the WS and it was the year that pretty much didn't count... and then they fueled COVID all over SoCal. Way to go, you bums!

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If the Bears went to the Rose Bowl or national championship game in 2020 nobody here would be calling that season "bogus!" If the Giants won it all in 2020, no Giants fan would be calling the season, "bogus." Only fans whose teams did not win call the season bogus.
We fans are hypocrites!!!

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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When somebody posts "The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . .", it says to me that the poster thinks the Dodgers will struggle.

Anyway, you can call the 2020 season bogus until you're (Dodger) blue in the face, but LA was clearly the class of MLB last year and took home the hardware.

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LOL, the one time this century that the Dodgers win the WS and it was the year that pretty much didn't count... and then they fueled COVID all over SoCal. Way to go, you bums!

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Loser post.

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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When somebody posts "The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . .", it says to me that the poster thinks the Dodgers will struggle.

Anyway, you can call the 2020 season bogus until you're (Dodger) blue in the face, but LA was clearly the class of MLB last year and took home the hardware.

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LOL, the one time this century that the Dodgers win the WS and it was the year that pretty much didn't count... and then they fueled COVID all over SoCal. Way to go, you bums!

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I'm torn on this one. It's absolutely different. It counts, but it's different. A 60 game season allows far fewer chances for injuries, and that's important. Every championship team has to deal with injuries, and the Dodgers had very few. Just compare it to this year - Bellinger has missed a ton of time, Seager has been out almost this entire season, and Kershaw got very bad news today. Last year, they had only five pitchers start more than two games and only 10 guys qualify for the batting title. That's pretty remarkable and something that just doesn't happen in a full season. To me, that is why the title is questionable/different.

There are of course arguments why it counts - they played who was on their schedule (reminds a bit of the debate on Bumgarner's 7 inning no hitter) and they had an extra round to deal with (the strongest point in their favor). But I don't see how any Dodger fan old enough thinks it's as good as 1988, and I think the next time the Dodgers win a WS many fans will acknowledge that 2020 didn't feel as good.

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Another loser post. Anyone else?

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oski003 said:

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GMP said:

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Big C said:

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chazzed said:

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Cal8285 said:

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chazzed said:

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oski003 said:

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chazzed said:

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GMP said:

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chazzed said:

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GMP said:

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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When somebody posts "The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . .", it says to me that the poster thinks the Dodgers will struggle.

Anyway, you can call the 2020 season bogus until you're (Dodger) blue in the face, but LA was clearly the class of MLB last year and took home the hardware.

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LOL, the one time this century that the Dodgers win the WS and it was the year that pretty much didn't count... and then they fueled COVID all over SoCal. Way to go, you bums!

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I'm torn on this one. It's absolutely different. It counts, but it's different. A 60 game season allows far fewer chances for injuries, and that's important. Every championship team has to deal with injuries, and the Dodgers had very few. Just compare it to this year - Bellinger has missed a ton of time, Seager has been out almost this entire season, and Kershaw got very bad news today. Last year, they had only five pitchers start more than two games and only 10 guys qualify for the batting title. That's pretty remarkable and something that just doesn't happen in a full season. To me, that is why the title is questionable/different.

There are of course arguments why it counts - they played who was on their schedule (reminds a bit of the debate on Bumgarner's 7 inning no hitter) and they had an extra round to deal with (the strongest point in their favor). But I don't see how any Dodger fan old enough thinks it's as good as 1988, and I think the next time the Dodgers win a WS many fans will acknowledge that 2020 didn't feel as good.

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Another loser post. Anyone else?

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You should lighten up like10%.

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Somebody obviously can't get over the trauma for Dodger fans that was 2010/2012/2014. Seven years and a quasi-legitimate World Series victory... you'd think that would assuage a lot of the bitterness, but I guess not.

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GMP said:

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GMP said:

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Big C said:

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chazzed said:

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Cal8285 said:

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chazzed said:

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oski003 said:

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chazzed said:

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GMP said:

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chazzed said:

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Cal8285 said:

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GMP said:

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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When somebody posts "The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . .", it says to me that the poster thinks the Dodgers will struggle.

Anyway, you can call the 2020 season bogus until you're (Dodger) blue in the face, but LA was clearly the class of MLB last year and took home the hardware.

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LOL, the one time this century that the Dodgers win the WS and it was the year that pretty much didn't count... and then they fueled COVID all over SoCal. Way to go, you bums!

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I'm torn on this one. It's absolutely different. It counts, but it's different. A 60 game season allows far fewer chances for injuries, and that's important. Every championship team has to deal with injuries, and the Dodgers had very few. Just compare it to this year - Bellinger has missed a ton of time, Seager has been out almost this entire season, and Kershaw got very bad news today. Last year, they had only five pitchers start more than two games and only 10 guys qualify for the batting title. That's pretty remarkable and something that just doesn't happen in a full season. To me, that is why the title is questionable/different.

There are of course arguments why it counts - they played who was on their schedule (reminds a bit of the debate on Bumgarner's 7 inning no hitter) and they had an extra round to deal with (the strongest point in their favor). But I don't see how any Dodger fan old enough thinks it's as good as 1988, and I think the next time the Dodgers win a WS many fans will acknowledge that 2020 didn't feel as good.

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Another loser post. Anyone else?

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You should lighten up like10%.

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Somebody obviously can't get over the trauma for Dodger fans that was 2010/2012/2014. Seven years and a quasi-legitimate World Series victory... you'd think that would assuage a lot of the bitterness, but I guess not.

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Doubling down on loser I see. Dodgers won because they are good. Have a good day

Y'all think Bauer will be out for the rest of the year for beating a woman unconscious during sex and then raping her anally while she was unconscious?

Or do y'all think he'll make his next start? Do you think the standings will help dictate that answer?

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oski003 said:

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GMP said:

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Cal8285 said:

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chazzed said:

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chazzed said:

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GMP said:

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chazzed said:

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Cal8285 said:

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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When somebody posts "The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . .", it says to me that the poster thinks the Dodgers will struggle.

Anyway, you can call the 2020 season bogus until you're (Dodger) blue in the face, but LA was clearly the class of MLB last year and took home the hardware.

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LOL, the one time this century that the Dodgers win the WS and it was the year that pretty much didn't count... and then they fueled COVID all over SoCal. Way to go, you bums!

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I'm torn on this one. It's absolutely different. It counts, but it's different. A 60 game season allows far fewer chances for injuries, and that's important. Every championship team has to deal with injuries, and the Dodgers had very few. Just compare it to this year - Bellinger has missed a ton of time, Seager has been out almost this entire season, and Kershaw got very bad news today. Last year, they had only five pitchers start more than two games and only 10 guys qualify for the batting title. That's pretty remarkable and something that just doesn't happen in a full season. To me, that is why the title is questionable/different.

There are of course arguments why it counts - they played who was on their schedule (reminds a bit of the debate on Bumgarner's 7 inning no hitter) and they had an extra round to deal with (the strongest point in their favor). But I don't see how any Dodger fan old enough thinks it's as good as 1988, and I think the next time the Dodgers win a WS many fans will acknowledge that 2020 didn't feel as good.

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Another loser post. Anyone else?

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You should lighten up like10%.

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Somebody obviously can't get over the trauma for Dodger fans that was 2010/2012/2014. Seven years and a quasi-legitimate World Series victory... you'd think that would assuage a lot of the bitterness, but I guess not.

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Doubling down on loser I see. Dodgers won because they are good. Have a good day

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If there are losers here, it is the team that won one 21st century World Series in a shortened, randomized season and then spread COVID all over SoCal, not the team that has won THREE glorious, legitimate World Series over the same period.

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chazzed said:

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GMP said:

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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The Dodgers lost in the World Series to the caught cheating Astros. What a total failure. Your analysis is ludicrous. You have a little man complex. It is pretty funny because your teams are historically in the top 25% in payroll. Well, it is always nice to not live in reality.

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Yet you can't find anything erroneous about what I said, so what is not reality about it?

Yes, the Dodgers lost to the Astros in 7. And the Yankees lost to the Astros in 7. Don't the Yankees have just as good a claim on the World Series championship as the Dodgers? If we conclude, as Dodgers fans do, that the loser of a 7 game series against the Astros would have won if the Astros hadn't cheated, then surely it would have been the Yankees and Dodgers in the World Series, and both fan bases are convinced that, if only the Astros hadn't cheated, they would have won it all!!

Which is interesting, because the Dodgers and the Yankees are the only organizations in baseball where anything but a World Series championship is total failure, and the 2017 Astros caused both organization to be a total failure in 2017. The Red Sox have a little bit of that in their DNA, but these days, so long as the Red Sox have a better year than the Yankees, it is a generally considered a success.

Starting with the blockbuster trade of 2012, the Dodgers' organization has clearly had a "World Series Championship or failure" attitude. Thanks to a shortened weird season in 2020, they got one. They want a real one now. Maybe they'll get it this year. More likely not, but you never know.

One interesting thing -- for decades, Dodgers fans didn't give a crap about the Giants. Giants fans continued to hate the Dodgers, Dodgers fans didn't really care about the Giants. The Giants were hardly worth their time. Now that the Giants got 3 World Series championships, the Dodgers fans are WAY more pissy towards the Giants, and that makes Giants fans feel a lot better.

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Man, who doesn't love the Padres.

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I don't love the Padres. Perhaps it is nice that they sweep the Dodgers, but I'm not sure sure they aren't the bigger threat to the Giants this season, especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . . .

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5 and 0 since this post, including a 2-game sweep of the Giants. I think they will be okay.

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Lol. No one said they wouldn't be ok.

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Cal8285:
". . .especially with the foreign substances crackdown that may hurt the Dodgers more than a lot of other teams. The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . ."

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The dodgers won their last 6 games, including a sweep of the BALCO stained Giants. Whatcha smoking?

Also, Bauer was just put on 7 day admin leave.

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That isn't my take. I was simply quoting Cal8285.

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Well, you posted my quote in response to GMP saying, "No one said they wouldn't be ok." A fair implication is that you thought my quote said the Dodgers wouldn't be OK. But GMP's reading comprehension is spot on. No one, not me, not anyone, said the Dodgers wouldn't be ok.

I said I'm not sure the Padres aren't the bigger threat. How does that equate "The Dodgers won't be ok'?????Especially given the uncertainties at the point where the Dodgers were 2 games into the crackdown, with the Pads just having swept the Dodgers, a fair statement -- "I'm not sure" who is the bigger threat. If you're sure, give me 100-1 odds the Dodgers will finish ahead of the Pads, I'm happy to put $50 on the Pads. Give me 50-50, I'll pass.

The Dodgers are stacked with big guns -- even with disaster, they can't be anything but "ok." Even if Bauer's weird sexual proclivities get him suspended for the season (and even if everything was consensual, oh brother. . .), the Dodgers will be "ok." Being simply "ok," however, is total failure for the Dodgers. For last 9 years, the Dodgers have been either World Series Champions or a total failure. And except for the bogus COVID MLB season (less bogus than the 2020 Pac-12 season, but still bogus), the Dodgers have been a total failure.

It is very difficult to know who will be affected most by the crackdown, even if some guys like Bauer clearly became better through the use of Spider Tack. Alex Wood has likely been using rosin and sunscreen his whole career, just like most pitchers use some substance for grip, activity that baseball has been aware of for decades and ignored. He stopped using before the official crackdown started, and it was clearly in his head. The crackdown creates a lot of uncertainty all over the place.

The Dodgers have too much to be anything but at least "ok." I'm confident the Dodgers will be "ok." But unless there is a shift in organizational attitude, there's a really good chance they will be a failure.

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When somebody posts "The Dodgers are winless since the crackdown began. Hmmmm. . .", it says to me that the poster thinks the Dodgers will struggle.

Anyway, you can call the 2020 season bogus until you're (Dodger) blue in the face, but LA was clearly the class of MLB last year and took home the hardware.

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Maybe I should have put in an emoticon. I made that post 2 games into the crackdown when the Dodgers had played two game in San Diego. There were only two choices, I was teasing the Dodgers fans and didn't really think ANY conclusions could be drawn based on two games on the road against a quality team (it is baseball, you know), or I'm a total and complete idiot when it comes to baseball. Sure, the latter might be possible, but you have to be a total idiot not to at least consider it was more likely that I was just teasing Dodgers fans. Indeed, I would be WAY more worried about losing 3 of 4 in Miami this week than I would being swept in San Diego earlier -- even though the Dodgers will surely make the post-season, that Miami series is not a good sign for success in post-season.

And it would take a Dodgers fan to say that LA was "clearly the class of MLB last year." Nobody has been clearly the class of MLB in any season for a long time, and last year was a really hard year to be "clearly the class." First, it is hard to be "clearly the class" when it took 7 games and coming from down 3-1 to dispatch the Braves. A little bit better than the Braves? Well, maybe, post-season is a crapshoot unless you are clearly superior. But the team that trailed the Braves 3-1 sure didn't look like the class of MLB.

And it is especially hard to claim "clearly the class" when, in the regular season, the Dodgers had the nice advantage of only playing the NL West and the AL West. The AL West was clearly the crap division of MLB, which helped all of the NL West. The Giants started the season 8-16, looking like the worst team in Giants history. Other than not being able to field, hit, pitch, or run the bases, they actually did OK over those first 24 games. Ugh. Yet they came within a game of the post-season in the weird year, mostly because they got to play the AL West, the Rockies, and the Diamondbacks so many times. Other than the Padres, the Dodgers didn't really play a very good team all regular season. Other than the Dodgers, the Padres didn't really play a very good team all regular season. Hell, at least the Giants had to play 2 very good teams, the Pads and the Dodgers.

But nobody cares whether you're the best team in MLB, they only care if you win a World Series Championship. The Giants don't give a crap that they weren't the "best team" in MLB in 2012, and weren't close in 2014. Just in the NL, the Nationals were better in both years, and the Dodgers were better in 2014, but the Dodgers choked against the Cardinals so the Giants never had to face them. But the Giants took home the ultimate hardware. Yeah, that's what counts.

And in the bogus season of 2020 (which some of us declared bogus before it started, just as some of us declared the 2020 Pac-12 season bogus before it started), the Dodgers took home the hardware. I have Dodger fan friends who consider that 1988 is still the last real championship they won, and the Dodger employee I know assures me that the organization is frustrated that they still haven't won in a "real" season since 1988. I don't know of any Dodger fan who found 2020 fully satisfying, as satisfying as, say, if the Dodgers had won in 2017 or 2018. Of course, you can treat 2020 however you want. The Dodgers won the World Series. Hell, you can treat 2017 however you want, just as the Yankees can.

If Cal had gone undefeated last year, won the Pac-12 championship, and won the Fiesta Bowl (Cal would NEVER have gone to the Rose Bowl, whether in Pasadena or Texas, after a 5-0 season), I wouldn't be saying, "Finally, they got one in my lifetime!!" But I wouldn't stop others from feeling that way, so feel free to feel however you need to about 2020.

Oh my god look at this angle of the Shohei Ohtani BOMB

pic.twitter.com/IO4d0Zc1uy

— Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) July 10, 2021

"SEATTLE (AP) Shohei Ohtani's league-leading 33rd home run of the season Friday night put him in rare company in the history of the Seattle Mariners' home ballpark.

Ohtani's solo shot in the third inning off Marco Gonzales soared into the top deck of right field at T-Mobile Park. The Angels' two-way phenom is the sixth player to reach the upper deck of the right field seats since the stadium opened in 1999. MLB's Statcast projected the homer at 463 feet."

bearister said:

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Oh my god look at this angle of the Shohei Ohtani BOMB

pic.twitter.com/IO4d0Zc1uy

— Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) July 10, 2021

"SEATTLE (AP) Shohei Ohtani's league-leading 33rd home run of the season Friday night put him in rare company in the history of the Seattle Mariners' home ballpark.

Ohtani's solo shot in the third inning off Marco Gonzales soared into the top deck of right field at T-Mobile Park. The Angels' two-way phenom is the sixth player to reach the upper deck of the right field seats since the stadium opened in 1999. MLB's Statcast projected the homer at 463 feet."

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Ungodly stars are so exciting to watch. After 60 years of sports, the 'regular' amazing athletes are sort of boring. This guy is Bonds without the steroids (?)

82gradDLSdad said:

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bearister said:

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Oh my god look at this angle of the Shohei Ohtani BOMB

pic.twitter.com/IO4d0Zc1uy

— Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) July 10, 2021

"SEATTLE (AP) Shohei Ohtani's league-leading 33rd home run of the season Friday night put him in rare company in the history of the Seattle Mariners' home ballpark.

Ohtani's solo shot in the third inning off Marco Gonzales soared into the top deck of right field at T-Mobile Park. The Angels' two-way phenom is the sixth player to reach the upper deck of the right field seats since the stadium opened in 1999. MLB's Statcast projected the homer at 463 feet."

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Ungodly stars are so exciting to watch. After 60 years of sports, the 'regular' amazing athletes are sort of boring. This guy is Bonds without the steroids (?)

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It's too bad he's stuck on the Angels.

His listed height and weight: 6'4 203 lbs
At that height, that looks 225 lbs, easy.

Imagine that uni (^^^^^) with a "G" on the front, fading downward into the San Francisco fog...

Sigh.

Big C said:

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Imagine that uni (^^^^^) with a "G" on the front, fading downward into the San Francisco fog...

Sigh.

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Much better than the Boston "yellows". At least the G-Men are using their team colors. The best so far are the Chicago uni's. I'm looking forward to see what the Dodgers come up with..

sycasey said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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bearister said:

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Oh my god look at this angle of the Shohei Ohtani BOMB

pic.twitter.com/IO4d0Zc1uy

— Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) July 10, 2021

"SEATTLE (AP) Shohei Ohtani's league-leading 33rd home run of the season Friday night put him in rare company in the history of the Seattle Mariners' home ballpark.

Ohtani's solo shot in the third inning off Marco Gonzales soared into the top deck of right field at T-Mobile Park. The Angels' two-way phenom is the sixth player to reach the upper deck of the right field seats since the stadium opened in 1999. MLB's Statcast projected the homer at 463 feet."

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Ungodly stars are so exciting to watch. After 60 years of sports, the 'regular' amazing athletes are sort of boring. This guy is Bonds without the steroids (?)

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It's too bad he's stuck on the Angels.

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A team with him and Trout on it should be so much better!

dimitrig said:

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sycasey said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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bearister said:

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Oh my god look at this angle of the Shohei Ohtani BOMB

pic.twitter.com/IO4d0Zc1uy

— Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) July 10, 2021

"SEATTLE (AP) Shohei Ohtani's league-leading 33rd home run of the season Friday night put him in rare company in the history of the Seattle Mariners' home ballpark.

Ohtani's solo shot in the third inning off Marco Gonzales soared into the top deck of right field at T-Mobile Park. The Angels' two-way phenom is the sixth player to reach the upper deck of the right field seats since the stadium opened in 1999. MLB's Statcast projected the homer at 463 feet."

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Ungodly stars are so exciting to watch. After 60 years of sports, the 'regular' amazing athletes are sort of boring. This guy is Bonds without the steroids (?)

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It's too bad he's stuck on the Angels.

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A team with him and Trout on it should be so much better!

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As the Giants are showing, it's better to get something from everyone on the roster than everything from a few. Farhan really knows what he's doing.

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Well last night was a lot of fun to watch. Largest margin of victory this year and the most runs scored in the history of Chavez Ravine.

22 to 1; eight home runs and two of them grand slams. First time In MLB history that a team has hit 2 slams in the same game twice in the same season.

Pollack goes 4 for 5 with 2 homers- now 8 in the month of July and Pujols adds 2 to his total - 675.

Buehler goes 9-1 with 6 innings and 3 hits.

I'll be watching the reruns on this a couple of times.

GO DODGERS

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SF beat Cincinnati earlier this year 19-4 and lost the following day to the Dodgers 2-1.

Big wins are great for stats but still only count as a single win in the standings.

So true and they're 2 games behind the Giants. This is going to be a good race this year.