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Re; best era of Giants - Dodgers rivalry since they relocated to California - is w/out doubt, the 1960's! Best rivalry in all sports at the time. And the Giants announcers at the time, Russ Hodges & Lon Simmons! Easily the best combo the Giants have ever had. Kruk and Kuip a distant ... way distant 2nd. GO GIANTS, Beat 'da bums!

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What is brown, orange, and 13 games back?

A turd.

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What is brown, orange, and 17.5 games back?

Wow this team is nosediving, just start the sell-off now, the bullpen is horrid, the fielding has been shockingly bad and now the hitting is absent, even with Webb this team had no shot against a lousy Diamondbacks squad.

Padres are going for it. Upgraded their closer and got Soto.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34334378/san-diego-padres-agree-trade-washington-nationals-slugger-juan-soto-sources-say

The Dodgers announced Vin Scully has passed away at the age of 94.

RIP 🙏 pic.twitter.com/KsVBDB3e7z

— FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) August 3, 2022

Dang. Vin Scully doesn't get his own thread. He gets buried at the bottom of this thread. What he ever do to deserve this?

(I ran into Vin by himself waiting at an elevator in the bowels of Dodger Stadium when I was 11 years old. He was nice.)

Ouch. Loved every second he broadcasted. The voice that will forever mean baseball in my mind.

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Ouch. Loved every second he broadcasted. The voice that will forever mean baseball in my mind.

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Also this:

Hahaha. That too. A remarkable career and I loved his willingness to allow huge moments to play out without endlessly talking over them.

Vince and Jerry. Made listening to baseball fun.

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Ouch. Loved every second he broadcasted. The voice that will forever mean baseball in my mind.

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And yet, he called the 2nd-greatest play in NFL history.

The Voice of The Catch.

Rest In Peace, Vin ❤️💛

pic.twitter.com/x0WAdtnzBN

— San Francisco 49ers (@49ers) August 3, 2022

RiP Vince. From a die-hard Giants fan. You will be remembered forever as one of the greatest announcers and as an an absolutely wonderful person.

Giants are bad. REALLY bad. With no upward direction. The front office - in its 4th year - doesn't spend enough to improve either the Big-league roster or their minor league system. And they certainly have the $$$ to do so. When will this new regime start doing such? They now need to spend millions this off-season on FA's; i.e .Rodon, A. Judge, JD Martinez, Murphy, Laureano, etc... to be a competitive and fun to watch team next year. And if they don't? Well... we might be turning the clock back to what it was like being a Giants fan in the '80's, before the Humm Baby days. In fact, it actually feels like those days now.

https://www.mlb.com/dodgers
Nice tribute to Vin

Pitching trumps hitting. Dodgers sweep Padres holding them to 4 runs So much for vaunted improved lineup

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He is 26. Bitter much? Yes, all of the guys I named have the potential to be MVP caliber.

Gavin Lux is the number two prospect in ALL OF BASEBALL, you moron.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlb.com/amp/news/ranking-2020-mlb-rookies-by-future-value.html

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 45. lollllllllll.

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 121 in 2022. lollllllllll.

Lux, Gonsolin, Urias, and Will Smith are doing an epic job leading the dodgers to dominance. Giants suck balls.

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A nice article on Gavin Lux. OPS is now 124.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/dodgers-news-la-insider-makes-bold-claim-about-gavin-lux/ar-AA10JVz3?li=BBnbfcL

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He is 26. Bitter much? Yes, all of the guys I named have the potential to be MVP caliber.

Gavin Lux is the number two prospect in ALL OF BASEBALL, you moron.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlb.com/amp/news/ranking-2020-mlb-rookies-by-future-value.html

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 45. lollllllllll.

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 121 in 2022. lollllllllll.

Lux, Gonsolin, Urias, and Will Smith are doing an epic job leading the dodgers to dominance. Giants suck balls.

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A nice article on Gavin Lux. OPS is now 124.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/dodgers-news-la-insider-makes-bold-claim-about-gavin-lux/ar-AA10JVz3?li=BBnbfcL

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Which is far from MVP caliber.

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He is 26. Bitter much? Yes, all of the guys I named have the potential to be MVP caliber.

Gavin Lux is the number two prospect in ALL OF BASEBALL, you moron.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlb.com/amp/news/ranking-2020-mlb-rookies-by-future-value.html

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 45. lollllllllll.

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 121 in 2022. lollllllllll.

Lux, Gonsolin, Urias, and Will Smith are doing an epic job leading the dodgers to dominance. Giants suck balls.

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A nice article on Gavin Lux. OPS is now 124.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/dodgers-news-la-insider-makes-bold-claim-about-gavin-lux/ar-AA10JVz3?li=BBnbfcL

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Which is far from MVP caliber.

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Which is far from an OPS+ of 45. My point was that the dodgers had/have prospects with mvp potential. Your point was the giants have a stacked farm system and the dodgers are getting old. Your points arent aging well and will continue to do so.

Hey is it true ... The Giants will not quit ... The Giants will not die!? And - do you believe in miracles!? I do believe in the latter but don't believe such will happen e/this year's Giants.

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He is 26. Bitter much? Yes, all of the guys I named have the potential to be MVP caliber.

Gavin Lux is the number two prospect in ALL OF BASEBALL, you moron.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlb.com/amp/news/ranking-2020-mlb-rookies-by-future-value.html

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 45. lollllllllll.

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 121 in 2022. lollllllllll.

Lux, Gonsolin, Urias, and Will Smith are doing an epic job leading the dodgers to dominance. Giants suck balls.

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A nice article on Gavin Lux. OPS is now 124.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/dodgers-news-la-insider-makes-bold-claim-about-gavin-lux/ar-AA10JVz3?li=BBnbfcL

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Which is far from MVP caliber.

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Which is far from an OPS+ of 45. My point was that the dodgers had/have prospects with mvp potential. Your point was the giants have a stacked farm system and the dodgers are getting old. Your points arent aging well and will continue to do so.

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Interestingly, I think my points have been proven correct, in part, by the moves the Dodgers have made. Two years ago, I looked at the Dodgers roster. I suggested they were headed for a downturn in their roster and also said that a farm system can't be counted on to completely revamp things because prospects do miss.

They let Seager walk, as I suggested they would. Turner and Muncy are having down years and very well could be on the downside of their careers. Bellinger is, surprisingly, bad and has been for 3 years now. This is all in line with what I suggested that made you so angry. (The rotation, however, is mostly homegrown and very good.)


It seems the Dodgers brass saw the same things. If you look at their roster now, two of their three best players were not on the team 13 months ago - Trea Turner, Freddie Freeman. And if you back a bit further than that, you can include their best player (Mookie Betts), too.

This is not a knock on the Dodgers brass. They saw the same writing on the wall that I did and they used their resources and prospects to reload. Good for them. But if you think you have been proven right and I have been proven wrong, I strongly disagree.

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Here's the post I am referring to:

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Indeed I have. Have you? The average age of the Dodgers' eleven players with the most at bats this year (no one else had over 100): 28.5. In 2022, that would be 30.5. We now know players peak around 26 (people used to think 28).

The pipeline is actually pretty dry for hitters other than Lux (and Lux has certainly not proven himself with a career OPS+ of 74, which is 26% below league average) in 582 plate appearances.

By 2022, Turner will be gone, or 37. Many expect Seager will be gone. Other than Lux, Smith, and Bellinger, every current regular will be either gone or 29-30, if not well into their 30s.

The same goes for the pitching. They have one Top 100 prospect (Gray) who many see as hit or miss. Other than that, from every pitcher with more than 10 IP this year, the average age is 28. In 2022, it'll be 30. May and Buehler should be good. But Urias has a long injury history and no one else on the current roster projects as a starter. The rotation looks in better shape to me than the lineup, but there will still be a lot of question marks in 2022.

Fans think these things last forever. They don't. This run is already approximately 4 years in, if not longer. They've got 2, maybe 3 years left.

Edit: This is not to say they can't or won't fill these holes. They can. But it's no guarantee.

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They did fill them!

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He is 26. Bitter much? Yes, all of the guys I named have the potential to be MVP caliber.

Gavin Lux is the number two prospect in ALL OF BASEBALL, you moron.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlb.com/amp/news/ranking-2020-mlb-rookies-by-future-value.html

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 45. lollllllllll.

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 121 in 2022. lollllllllll.

Lux, Gonsolin, Urias, and Will Smith are doing an epic job leading the dodgers to dominance. Giants suck balls.

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A nice article on Gavin Lux. OPS is now 124.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/dodgers-news-la-insider-makes-bold-claim-about-gavin-lux/ar-AA10JVz3?li=BBnbfcL

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Which is far from MVP caliber.

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Which is far from an OPS+ of 45. My point was that the dodgers had/have prospects with mvp potential. Your point was the giants have a stacked farm system and the dodgers are getting old. Your points arent aging well and will continue to do so.

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Interestingly, I think my points have been proven correct, in part, by the moves the Dodgers have made. Two years ago, I looked at the Dodgers roster. I suggested they were headed for a downturn in their roster and also said that a farm system can't be counted on to completely revamp things because prospects do miss.

They let Seager walk, as I suggested they would. Turner and Muncy are having down years and very well could be on the downside of their careers. Bellinger is, surprisingly, bad and has been for 3 years now. This is all in line with what I suggested that made you so angry. (The rotation, however, is mostly homegrown and very good.)


It seems the Dodgers brass saw the same things. If you look at their roster now, two of their three best players were not on the team 13 months ago - Trea Turner, Freddie Freeman. And if you back a bit further than that, you can include their best player (Mookie Betts), too.

This is not a knock on the Dodgers brass. They saw the same writing on the wall that I did and they used their resources and prospects to reload. Good for them. But if you think you have been proven right and I have been proven wrong, I strongly disagree.

Edit:

Here's the post I am referring to:

GMP:

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Indeed I have. Have you? The average age of the Dodgers' eleven players with the most at bats this year (no one else had over 100): 28.5. In 2022, that would be 30.5. We now know players peak around 26 (people used to think 28).

The pipeline is actually pretty dry for hitters other than Lux (and Lux has certainly not proven himself with a career OPS+ of 74, which is 26% below league average) in 582 plate appearances.

By 2022, Turner will be gone, or 37. Many expect Seager will be gone. Other than Lux, Smith, and Bellinger, every current regular will be either gone or 29-30, if not well into their 30s.

The same goes for the pitching. They have one Top 100 prospect (Gray) who many see as hit or miss. Other than that, from every pitcher with more than 10 IP this year, the average age is 28. In 2022, it'll be 30. May and Buehler should be good. But Urias has a long injury history and no one else on the current roster projects as a starter. The rotation looks in better shape to me than the lineup, but there will still be a lot of question marks in 2022.

Fans think these things last forever. They don't. This run is already approximately 4 years in, if not longer. They've got 2, maybe 3 years left.

Edit: This is not to say they can't or won't fill these holes. They can. But it's no guarantee.

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They did fill them!

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Well, they certainly had the prospects to trade for MVP caliber player Trea Turner and MVP Betts and also have three of the top young pitchers in baseball, along with Will Smith, one of the top catchers in all of baseball at the age of 27. You certainly overlooked a lot of things for them to be able to put together the amazing team they have this year, which is winning 70% of its games despite having two all star sub 3 ERA pitchers in IR most of all season. They filled the holes by trading prospects, two key signings, and having incredible young talent.

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He is 26. Bitter much? Yes, all of the guys I named have the potential to be MVP caliber.

Gavin Lux is the number two prospect in ALL OF BASEBALL, you moron.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlb.com/amp/news/ranking-2020-mlb-rookies-by-future-value.html

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 45. lollllllllll.

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Let's check in on young Lux, shall we?

OPS+ of 121 in 2022. lollllllllll.

Lux, Gonsolin, Urias, and Will Smith are doing an epic job leading the dodgers to dominance. Giants suck balls.

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A nice article on Gavin Lux. OPS is now 124.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/dodgers-news-la-insider-makes-bold-claim-about-gavin-lux/ar-AA10JVz3?li=BBnbfcL

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Which is far from MVP caliber.

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Which is far from an OPS+ of 45. My point was that the dodgers had/have prospects with mvp potential. Your point was the giants have a stacked farm system and the dodgers are getting old. Your points arent aging well and will continue to do so.

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Interestingly, I think my points have been proven correct, in part, by the moves the Dodgers have made. Two years ago, I looked at the Dodgers roster. I suggested they were headed for a downturn in their roster and also said that a farm system can't be counted on to completely revamp things because prospects do miss.

They let Seager walk, as I suggested they would. Turner and Muncy are having down years and very well could be on the downside of their careers. Bellinger is, surprisingly, bad and has been for 3 years now. This is all in line with what I suggested that made you so angry. (The rotation, however, is mostly homegrown and very good.)


It seems the Dodgers brass saw the same things. If you look at their roster now, two of their three best players were not on the team 13 months ago - Trea Turner, Freddie Freeman. And if you back a bit further than that, you can include their best player (Mookie Betts), too.

This is not a knock on the Dodgers brass. They saw the same writing on the wall that I did and they used their resources and prospects to reload. Good for them. But if you think you have been proven right and I have been proven wrong, I strongly disagree.

Edit:

Here's the post I am referring to:

GMP:

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Indeed I have. Have you? The average age of the Dodgers' eleven players with the most at bats this year (no one else had over 100): 28.5. In 2022, that would be 30.5. We now know players peak around 26 (people used to think 28).

The pipeline is actually pretty dry for hitters other than Lux (and Lux has certainly not proven himself with a career OPS+ of 74, which is 26% below league average) in 582 plate appearances.

By 2022, Turner will be gone, or 37. Many expect Seager will be gone. Other than Lux, Smith, and Bellinger, every current regular will be either gone or 29-30, if not well into their 30s.

The same goes for the pitching. They have one Top 100 prospect (Gray) who many see as hit or miss. Other than that, from every pitcher with more than 10 IP this year, the average age is 28. In 2022, it'll be 30. May and Buehler should be good. But Urias has a long injury history and no one else on the current roster projects as a starter. The rotation looks in better shape to me than the lineup, but there will still be a lot of question marks in 2022.

Fans think these things last forever. They don't. This run is already approximately 4 years in, if not longer. They've got 2, maybe 3 years left.

Edit: This is not to say they can't or won't fill these holes. They can. But it's no guarantee.

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They did fill them!

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Well, they certainly had the prospects to trade for MVP caliber player Trea Turner and MVP Betts and also have three of the top young pitchers in baseball, along with Will Smith, one of the top catchers in all of baseball at the age of 27. You certainly overlooked a lot of things for them to be able to put together the amazing team they have this year, which is winning 70% of its games despite having two all star sub 3 ERA pitchers in IR most of all season. They filled the holes by trading prospects, two key signings, and having incredible young talent.

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Ok, but that was never a point I disagreed with. My post was a response to someone calling me an idiot because the Dodgers core was supposedly so young. I said it was t and that within 2 years they'd have a lot of holes that they'd need to fill.

Giants are running a class-a home run from a San Jose road game in Modesto on their mlb page. This is painful, but still better that being a dodger fan.

Kershaw still rolling. 7 innings 2 hitter. 1 BB 5 SO.......... 2.44 ERA. Now if he can stay healthy.

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Kershaw still rolling. 7 innings 2 hitter. 1 BB 5 SO.......... 2.44 ERA. Now if he can stay healthy.

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Still amazing. And such a good dude.

The prophecy WAS true: Vogelsong > Kershaw

I, for one, am enjoying the bottom of the 7th tonight.

1988.

Padres!!!!!

— Alex Morgan (@alexmorgan13) October 16, 2022

.@latimesopinion: If there ever was a case for canceling the playoffs and awarding a championship to one team because it was so clearly better than all the others, the 2022 Los Angeles Dodgers would be it https://t.co/NDcIpAxPZG

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) October 15, 2022

This and the Poole/wiggins signings are the only things keeping me going.

'da bums!

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Re; best era of Giants - Dodgers rivalry since they relocated to California - is w/out doubt, the 1960's! Best rivalry in all sports at the time. And the Giants announcers at the time, Russ Hodges & Lon Simmons! Easily the best combo the Giants have ever had. Kruk and Kuip a distant ... way distant 2nd. GO GIANTS, Beat 'da bums!

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What is brown, orange, and 13 games back?

A turd.

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What is brown, orange, and 17.5 games back?

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What is blue and white and chokes every October?

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Dgoldnbaer said:

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Re; best era of Giants - Dodgers rivalry since they relocated to California - is w/out doubt, the 1960's! Best rivalry in all sports at the time. And the Giants announcers at the time, Russ Hodges & Lon Simmons! Easily the best combo the Giants have ever had. Kruk and Kuip a distant ... way distant 2nd. GO GIANTS, Beat 'da bums!

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What is brown, orange, and 13 games back?

A turd.

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What is brown, orange, and 17.5 games back?

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What is blue and white and chokes every October?

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1) The Dodgers won October 2020. Has following Cal football caused memory lapse?
2) Always good to give some old fashioned ribbing. . Giants fan(s) can be really sensitive about their recent craptitude.