http://seattletimes.com/html/huskyfootballblog/2018950680_tedford_says_no_hard_feelings.html

Reading between the lines, what Tedford wishes he could say: "Yes, of course it bothers me. It bothers me a lot. A guy I trusted turned out to be a traitor with no morals and no sense of loyalty. And as for Sark, he's an opportunistic snake. I hope they both go to hell."

Some reasonable responses to the article surprisingly. It's nice to know that Dawg fans think that Tedford is " classy". I think I'd rather have them hate him for dominating their hometown team though.

He played it right. What he says in the locker room is more important

GB54;841925793 said:

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He played it right. What he says in the locker room is more important

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+1
A 50-10 beatdown in our shiny new house sounds about right.

Reading between the lines - such as when Tedford goes out of the way to mention that HE gave To$h is opportunity to be a GA and the use of the word "awkward " about 6 times suggest that Tedford wants NOTHING more to run up the score while gaining about 400 yards on the ground on them. I, for one, will be yelling at the TV for that to happen.

Pretty funny that so many UDumbasses are pointing out "Shag" as if it were Tedford who's editing and ultimately publishing those short articles in his other job as the Seattle Times' weekend web editor. I hope he's not being nearly as understanding and "classy" behind closed doors.

He's saying all the right things publicly. Tedford has no umbrage with an assistant coach leaving, or a recruit ultimately choosing another school. The way the things went down though is what is maddeningly frustrating to put it politely.

Quote:

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Awkward
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: clumsy, inelegant
Synonyms: all thumbs, amateurish, artless, blundering, bulky, bumbling, bungling, butterfingers, coarse, floundering, gawky, graceless, green*, having two left feet, having two left hands, incompetent, inept, inexpert, klutzy, lumbering, maladroit, oafish, rude, stiff, stumbling, uncoordinated, uncouth, unfit, ungainly, ungraceful, unhandy, unpolished, unrefined, unskilled, unskillful

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http://thesaurus.com/browse/awkward?s=t

BoaltBear;841925812 said:

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http://thesaurus.com/browse/awkward?s=t

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whew..you actually know how to use one of those???

62bear;841925803 said:

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Pretty funny that so many UDumbasses are pointing out "Shag" as if it were Tedford who's editing and ultimately publishing those short articles in his other job as the Seattle Times' weekend web editor. I hope he's not being nearly as understanding and "classy" behind closed doors.

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No wonder we lost him....we were recruiting the wrong guy, some mysterious player named "Shag Thompson". Don't you hate it when that happens?

510Bear;841925878 said:

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No wonder we lost him....we were recruiting the wrong guy, some mysterious player named "Shag Thompson". Don't you hate it when that happens?

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Shag would actually be a more unique and cool name.

NYCGOBEARS;841925880 said:

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Shag would actually be a more unique and cool name.

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Yeah, baby!!!

...analogy. I would just add that on top of that behavior the hooker steals your clothes and gives them to the guy in the car!!!

:rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh: :rollinglaugh:

BearLineman;841925791 said:

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HAHA, "timing was a little awkward."

Translation...Tosh is a piece of **** who we trusted with our future but left us hanging like a cheap hooker who I rented a room for but she chose to blow some dude in a car for $.50 more.

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True. Tosh has the morals of a Corsican knife fighter.

NYCGOBEARS;841925797 said:

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+1
A 50-10 beatdown in our shiny new house sounds about right.

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As we serenade him with a "Tosh is no Bear" chant!

I don't know any Corsican knife fighters. Would this be a reference to Napoleon, by chance?

SkyBear;841926034 said:

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UW fans see Tedford as classy because Tedford is classy. It's that simple.

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Love Tedord's class. We don't want to give them any bulletin board materials, as we should save it all for ourselves to rile our team up. Since our DL coach bailed on our team at the last minute.


It still hurts to this date everytime I see the name Shaq Thompson, Arik Armstead, etc. The only way to ease this pain is to run up that score against UW. I for one will be there cheering until my voice is gone for us to beat those pups

SkyBear;841926034 said:

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UW fans see Tedford as classy because Tedford is classy. It's that simple.

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Often, nice guys finish last and clearly, JT is a nice guy (at times too much so in my opinion). I'm not saying JT should trash Tosh, but he could have shown a little more fire in this case. Why not show a little anger for how it happened and how Cal (and in particular JT) was treated?

Saying something as simple as, "we expect more from our staff when they depart" or "it did not happen the way it should have. Ultimately, that is more a reflection on UW then us and we are moving on." If you don't stand up for yourself and call out bad behavior when someone screws you, it makes it a lot easier for someone else to do it in the future.

Maybe - if you read Alan Schom's bio on him, you'd think so. Schom, who got his BA at Cal and taught there, is a fine writer imo.

allhail;841925779 said:

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Reading between the lines, what Tedford wishes he could say: "Yes, of course it bothers me. It bothers me a lot. A guy I trusted turned out to be a traitor with no morals and no sense of loyalty. And as for Sark, he's an opportunistic snake. I hope they both go to hell."

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Agree:
Said Tedford: ""Shaq was going to do what he wanted to do. It's just that it probably didn't go down the way that you would hope that coaching decisions on whether they move or not aren't discussed with recruits until after they make a move, and that's really the only thing that (bothered him) discussing something with a recruit that you are thinking about going somewhere before you actually go --- that kind of caught me off-guard a little bit. But that's okay....'' [Meaning: "you snake in the grass recruiting a kid to UW while you were still officially working for Cal".]

Asked if he had talked to Lupoi since Lupoi left, Tedford said: "No, not really. Everybody was busy at that time, everybody was running around crazy, recruiting and traveling all over and doing things, so it's really a hard time to be able to huddle up and say goodbye because everybody is on the road and gone.'' [Meaning: "you SOB you left me hanging out to dry when you were supposed to be joining me on that recruiting trip."]


"Not at all,'' he said. "This is about our team against their team. Like I said, Tosh played for me. I gave him the opportunity to be a GA (graduate assistant), I gave him his first coaching job --- this is not about us, we don't play the game. [Meaning: you ungrateful bastard. You did not have the decency or guts to tell me face to face."]

BearGoggles;841926072 said:

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Often, nice guys finish last and clearly, JT is a nice guy (at times too much so in my opinion). I'm not saying JT should trash Tosh, but he could have shown a little more fire in this case. Why not show a little anger for how it happened and how Cal (and in particular JT) was treated?

Saying something as simple as, "we expect more from our staff when they depart" or "it did not happen the way it should have. Ultimately, that is more a reflection on UW then us and we are moving on." If you don't stand up for yourself and call out bad behavior when someone screws you, it makes it a lot easier for someone else to do it in the future.

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Disagree. JT handled it right. Be professional. But get even.

BearGoggles;841926072 said:

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Often, nice guys finish last and clearly, JT is a nice guy (at times too much so in my opinion). I'm not saying JT should trash Tosh, but he could have shown a little more fire in this case. Why not show a little anger for how it happened and how Cal (and in particular JT) was treated?

Saying something as simple as, "we expect more from our staff when they depart" or "it did not happen the way it should have. Ultimately, that is more a reflection on UW then us and we are moving on." If you don't stand up for yourself and call out bad behavior when someone screws you, it makes it a lot easier for someone else to do it in the future.

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What's the point? To make you feel better? I'm serious. We're all angry at Tosh. Tedford more than any of us, I guarantee that. But what does it accomplish? It's like trashing an ex. Tedford would look like a scorned lover. It would also appear to recruits, current players, and the coach that replaced him (Howard), that Tedford thinks we are worse off now. Whether that is true or not remains to be seen (it certainly hurt our recruiting), but you sure as hell don't want to send that message.

I'd really like to know more about the Arik Armstead move to Oregon. If he was in Tosh's camp why didn't he migrate to Seattle? If he was committed to Cal, why did he wind up in Eugene? Would Arik have gone to Oregon regardless of Tosh? Did Lupoi actually have less of a leash on Armstead than believed? How could Chippie enter at the last moment and sweep Armstead off his feet when he was (privately) committed to Cal? What really happened and why?

Shaq is the only recruit to follow Tosh. I believe that the presence of James Sample and Wilcox had as much or more to do with him committing there as anything else. Maybe Tosh isn't such a great recruiter after all. Maybe it was a confluence of many things, including other coaches, that enhanced his image as a top recruiter?

Exactly. What matters is not what Tedford says for public consumption, but what he tells his staff and team.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

6bear6;841926120 said:

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I'd really like to know more about the Arik Armstead move to Oregon. If he was in Tosh's camp why didn't he migrate to Seattle? If he was committed to Cal, why did he wind up in Eugene? Would Arik have gone to Oregon regardless of Tosh? Did Lupoi actually have less of a leash on Armstead than believed? How could Chippie enter at the last moment and sweep Armstead off his feet when he was (privately) committed to Cal? What really happened and why?

Shaq is the only recruit to follow Tosh. I believe that the presence of James Sample and Wilcox had as much or more to do with him committing there as anything else. Maybe Tosh isn't such a great recruiter after all. Maybe it was a confluence of many things, including other coaches, that enhanced his image as a top recruiter?

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Many programs were recruiting these guys. The feeling was Tosh + Cal was a strong sell with commitments and near commitments. Tosh leaving Cal weakened Cal more than it helped UW. Other than Shaq, people didn't trust Tosh enough to jump to UW, but it left Cal damaged and programs like Oregon benefited.

allhail;841925779 said:

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Reading between the lines, what Tedford wishes he could say: "Yes, of course it bothers me. It bothers me a lot. A guy I trusted turned out to be a traitor with no morals and no sense of loyalty. And as for Sark, he's an opportunistic snake. I hope they both go to hell."

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+1

tedford trashing tosh would only hurt cal. as fans its our job to trash tosh

calumnus;841926127 said:

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Many programs were recruiting these guys. The feeling was Tosh + Cal was a strong sell with commitments and near commitments. Tosh leaving Cal weakened Cal more than it helped UW. Other than Shaq, people didn't trust Tosh enough to jump to UW, but it left Cal damaged and programs like Oregon benefited.

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I appreciate the effort, but I don't believe your response says you know more than I do at this point. Of course it weakened us. But we are not getting to the point of how all of a sudden Oregon appeared on the scene and waltzed off with Arik. How did that happen? The Ducks were barely mentioned in connection with his recruitment. I believe I followed it as closely as anyone else on this Board. It was really between us and SC as I recall.

UW game falls on JTs birthday I hope the team gift wraps a big win for him.

6bear6;841926245 said:

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I appreciate the effort, but I don't believe your response says you know more than I do at this point. Of course it weakened us. But we are not getting to the point of how all of a sudden Oregon appeared on the scene and waltzed off with Arik. How did that happen? The Ducks were barely mentioned in connection with his recruitment. I believe I followed it as closely as anyone else on this Board. It was really between us and SC as I recall.

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SC was out because his brother Armond was unhappy and going to transfer. That is why he de-committed in the first place.
He never visited UW.

Here is the Duck perspective for what it is worth: LINK

Note the emphasis in the family's statements about "honesty" and not bad-mouthing another program? I think that could easily be a veiled reference to Tosh. He didn't visit UW and Tosh's behavior wasn't going to pull him there, especially site unseen. Oregon had been recruiting him, he had visited, they had said he could play defense and play basketball and he could study "sports marketing" at NIKE-U. Cal was in a shambles, with no defensive line coach and no one to pick up the pieces at the last hour.

Arcadiabear;841926069 said:

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Love Tedord's class. We don't want to give them any bulletin board materials, as we should save it all for ourselves to rile our team up. Since our DL coach bailed on our team at the last minute.


It still hurts to this date everytime I see the name Shaq Thompson, Arik Armstead, etc. The only way to ease this pain is to run up that score against UW. I for one will be there cheering until my voice is gone for us to beat those pups

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Ditto. I loved seeing Bryce Treggs as the top Pac-12 newcomer on offense this year...hated seeing Shaq Thompson as the top newcomer on defense. Both could have been Bears! (And all the rest.)

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--fbc-pac-12-season-preview.html

Tosh traded a promising career in for a few years of a big paycheck. It will be interesting to see where he ends up next. Would even Sarkisian hire him again? (He can never trust someone that has been paid to betray someone else.)

BearLineman;841926014 said:

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When speaking of To$h...whore is the only word that comes to mind.

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Judas Lupoi

calumnus;841926323 said:

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SC was out because his brother Armond was unhappy and going to transfer. That is why he de-committed in the first place.
He never visited UW.

Here is the Duck perspective for what it is worth: LINK

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Interesting. The article makes it sound as if Cal was an also-ran, and it came down to USC vs. Oregon. I thought USC had long since dropped out of the running. I wonder if that might be a bit of homerism on the part of the writer.