Ok, i have to admit we made it through the middle of the 3rd quarter and do to our water gear failure ($6 dollar ponchos fell apart!!) my wife and bailed as we started to have symtoms of hypothermia...i found the Oregon fans (even the drunk ones, very polite and friendly). The two hour drive back to Portland was also a factor. Thanks for the nice post and thanks to all the fans/family members that endured dismal weather to support our Boys!

SonOfCalVa;842186861 said:

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Now the dawgie boyz feel "up" for a confrontation, tired of being f'd duckie bytches.

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Are these two new hip-hop dance crews I haven't heard of?

I have found Ohio State and Tennessee to have great fans. However, you won't hear that from Michigan or Alabama fans. So a lot may depend on if Cal is a real rival.

As for the Pac 12, I have gone to two games at Tuscon, and had a wonderful time with the UofA fans both times. Probably helped that their team won, but they could not have been nicer. Contrast that with ASU fans who always seem to be confrontational jerks, whether their team wins or losses. (Most folks would say SC fans are jerks, but I go to games with them, so I guess I get an exemption from the jerks). Also, I can't begin to tell you how much nicer I find Udub fans than fans or anything else at WSU. The WSU trip should be free trip we give Barsky.

I found Utah fans are pleasant generally (Huntsman is a great place to see a basketball game - smart fans who will interact with you in a great setting), though there is more of an edge at football games. Anyone who thinks Utah is BYU is in for rude awaking. Bring your Provo Girl (its a popular local beer with an interesting view of what Provo girls think is not a sex act) to the game.

Bottom line, is a lot depends on the culture of the crowds as they develop over time. I wouldn't wear my colors at Eugene or Tempe, but would feel comfortable at Udub, Furd, UCLA, or UofA. I just would never go to WSU, except by gun point. I don't know OSU.

What a great post! What I can say regarding the fans, remember, 90% of the fans cleared out and the only fans left were the drunk, obnoxious fans with nothing better to do. I truly believe that was the exception rather than the rule. Let me also say, no, I wasn't there. I no longer even live in Oregon, but that doesn't sound like your typical Oregon game. Most of the time Duck fans will keep other Duck fans in line. I'm sorry you had a bad experience because a game in Eugene is, most of the time, excellent.

Awesome post. I felt like I was there. And thanks for supporting Cal and the team in an tough environment from all angles.

TightwadHill99;842186724 said:

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Great post. Great fan.

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+1

ManhattanMadMan;842186897 said:

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And thanks for supporting Cal and the team in an tough environment from all angles.

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This.

:bravo

Boot;842186773 said:

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I've always felt most duck fans are as$holes. They travel drunk and stupid and there male fans are worse.

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You've also described $C fans, something I've witnessed all too often as a Cal season ticket holder based in Pasadena. May we never sink to that level.

:gobears:

blungld;842186758 said:

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Yes, I have seen that strain too.

a lot of these Duck fans are rural types with traditional values and stereotypical country dispositions.

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Like the Taliban or followers of Pol Pot.

GB54;842186947 said:

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Like the Taliban or followers of Pol Pot.

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Typical knee-jerk from someone who has probably never been to Afghanistan or Indochina.

If you ever think of making a trip to Autzen, just consider this: 2-3 years ago, one of their own fans was assaulted in the bathroom after making a comment that USC was not that bad. When the OSU band attends Autzen, they are never allowed to go anywhere without at least one other band member due to related incidents. While I was in the band, I witnessed incidents in which the state troopers had to be involved.

As an OSU fan it is my responsibility to consider them the worst fan base in the conference (if not the nation!), but they sure do make the claim super easy to make.

I'm sorry you did not have a good experience with security, to include the state troopers. They might be desensitized... at the OSU game, I saw a CU fan ejected by state troopers just for holding up his middle finger after every big OSU play! If you ever come up in future years and any OSU fans give you grief, there are always banners throughout the stadium with instructions on how to report unruly behavior, and each text is backed up by two state troopers, in an effort to curb the kind of thing you described at Autzen.

Great post, Blungld!

ps. Effects of crystal meth:

[INDENT]Sense of Empowerment -- Which Can Lead to Aggression

While under the influence of meth, users can have the illusion of being more powerful and productive than usual. Although this can feel good to the meth user, it can cause problems. Meth can make people feel more socially outgoing, talkative and self-confident, but equally, they can behave bizarrely and become distant from positive social relationships. Many meth users become surrounded by other meth users, and lose contact with outside supports.

Meth can have the effect of making people delusional; their grasp on reality becomes eroded. Sometimes they might feel superior to other people (sometimes called grandiosity), but they can also become anxious, paranoid and aggressive.

One of the problems with being high on meth is the lack of awareness of how you actually appear and how you are behaving, something that meth users in recovery are able to reflect on after the fact.[/INDENT]

Remember that the Ohio State & Oregon fan support is largely based upon the fact that their respective teams are national power houses (#2  nationally). Cal has been unable to stay in the game for a quarter against these teams, falling behind 21-0 and 28-0 by the middle of the 1st QTR.

The Bears have a shot to finish 6-6 on paper and win 5 of the remaining 8 games. However, I also feel the belief system (or "buy in" in Dykes & Co) maybe in jeopardy. Daniel Lasco will stop talking about shocking the world and that Cal's headed to the Rose Bowl after last night's humiliaton...

The defensive coaches should be embarrassed by their lack of coaching and their ineffective scheme. I've stated previously that the 4-3 defense NEEDS to be junked and the team needs to return to the 3-4 that more appropriately fits our personnel. The current scheme ***CANNOT establish outside
contain***. The vast majority of scoring and yardage are generated by off-tackle runs, sweeps or passes to wide receivers behind the line of scrimmage. This will continue to go on until the defense is changed and built around outside containment. I studied the defense and the DEs are lined up head-to-head or inside the Oregon tackles or TEs. The strongside linebacker, #7 Jefferson, is the only backer that is outside and has an opportunity to turn a play in but the tackle or tightend simply takes him whichever way is the path of least resistance. If Jefferson is trying to stay outside the lineman simply blows him off of the ball that way and RB, Marshall, cuts inside him off-tackle into a gaping hole. Otherwise, Cal's defense is pinned inside and the sweep is a success into the open spaces in the secondary. We all saw the play when Kameron Jackson was injured. The Ducks lineup three WRs to the left sideline and pass behind the line of scrimmage to one of them. Instead of our secondary attacking the two blockers they stay back and allow Oregon's receivers to be the aggressors and take it to them.

bottomline: it appears that Cal has NOT been prepped on how to defend that play and every team we'll play will emphasize that play until the Bears show that they can defend the outside of the field.

My only comments on the two punt returns for TDs was to note the lack of speed of much of the personnel. Hardy Nickerson Jr is one of the slowest linebackers on the team and he's out there. I could name others but one gets my point. Why not put people that can run on the coverage units?

USC had the courage to make a change. This is Cal's "crossroads" for the 2013 season at a 1-3 record. Cal lost to #2 Oregon, #4 Ohio State & #16 Northwestern. It's not the losses that were unexpected but the avalanche of points yielded (55, 52 & 44, respectively)...If the defensive staff will make the necessary changes to stop the vulnerability to the outside, Cal could finish 5-3 over the remainder of the season. I'm assuming losses to the three nationally-ranked teams on the road (UCLA, Washington & Stanford) but four home wins plus a road victory vs Colorado. This Saturday's game against Washington State will likely be the key to which way Cal's fortunes go the remainder of the season. The Coug's quarterback suffered an injured ankle against Stanford. If the Bears cannot handle this team, things could get ugly (like the end of 2012) & fall off of a cliff...GO BEARS!

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TightwadHill99;842186724 said:

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Great post. Great fan.

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82gradDLSdad;842186756 said:

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I realize that 90% of the Oregon fans are probably just like us but it is the other 10% that make them seem like Raider fans (or at least the perception I have of Raider fans). .

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I'm a 4th and 5th grade math teacher at a small private school and am also a Raider fan. Most of us are just as normal as the rest of you.

Thanks for the great report and for being one of the few fans that made it out there and stuck it out for the team. Shame to hear about all the turmoil on our sideline though.

wifeisafurd;842186892 said:

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Bottom line, is a lot depends on the culture of the crowds as they develop over time. I wouldn't wear my colors at Eugene or Tempe, but would feel comfortable at Udub, Furd, UCLA, or UofA. I just would never go to WSU, except by gun point. I don't know OSU.

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So you'd go to a game in Eugene or Tempe and not wear Cal clothes? That's ridiculous.

BeaversEatFurdTrees;842186976 said:

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If you ever think of making a trip to Autzen, just consider this: 2-3 years ago, one of their own fans was assaulted in the bathroom after making a comment that USC was not that bad. When the OSU band attends Autzen, they are never allowed to go anywhere without at least one other band member due to related incidents. While I was in the band, I witnessed incidents in which the state troopers had to be involved.

As an OSU fan it is my responsibility to consider them the worst fan base in the conference (if not the nation!), but they sure do make the claim super easy to make.

I'm sorry you did not have a good experience with security, to include the state troopers. They might be desensitized... at the OSU game, I saw a CU fan ejected by state troopers just for holding up his middle finger after every big OSU play! If you ever come up in future years and any OSU fans give you grief, there are always banners throughout the stadium with instructions on how to report unruly behavior, and each text is backed up by two state troopers, in an effort to curb the kind of thing you described at Autzen.

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This is one of the most absurd posts I have ever read. For you to have mentioned your band needing escorts is laughable.

Perhaps you need a reminder from the 2008 Civil War. I do understand if you've blocked that game from your memory.....65-38.

http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/civil-war-crowd-turned-unruly/article_410ea703-2877-541a-9de7-c78cc95a2c37.html

One notable incident was when Ashley Sears, 19, an OSU student, threw white paint on several members of the UO band minutes before halftime, according to Oregon State Police logs.

Sears, who had a blood-alcohol-content of nearly .08 percent, was cited for second-degree disorderly conduct, second-degree criminal mischief and being a minor in possession of alcohol.

I have been in Reser(and previous to that, Parker). I have witnessed first hand the vile behavior of your drunken, enraged, bitter fans(students and non-students alike) acting like complete buffoons.

The "bitter factor" with your post is sad, but entertaining.

If you want to compare # of citations at our respective venues each home game, you will definitely see that Oregon has a higher number, but that's only relative to the fact that we have 60k at Autzen each Saturday as opposed to 30k-35k.

SonOfCalVa;842186861 said:

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Should be interesting reading (hope it's reported) about the dawgie fans meeting the f'd duckie fans. Those two schools have ample reasons for continuing their warfare as neither "university" has much going for it other than football, which Whoregon has dominated. Now the dawgie boyz feel "up" for a confrontation, tired of being f'd duckie bytches.

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You obviously know nothing about Universities. UW is a very highly ranked public university. While it is not ranked as high as CAL, its not too far off. It is very difficult to get into. I went to Cal and I am very happy with my experience and was very lucky to have the opportunity to go there. But, the same can be said of UW.

Please don't make derogatory statements about Universities that others have gone to or attend, especially when you don't know the facts.

oskibear1988;842187010 said:

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You obviously know nothing about Universities. UW is a very highly ranked public university. While it is not ranked as high as CAL, its not too far off. It is very difficult to get into. I went to Cal and I am very happy with my experience and was very lucky to have the opportunity to go there. But, the same can be said of UW.

Please don't make derogatory statements about Universities that others have gone to or attend, especially when you don't know the facts.

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Sorry, buddie, but I've spent decades around uDuh graduates, in the community and on the job, and the quality of ability, performance and scholarship is low.

Fact, buddie.

oskibear1988;842187010 said:

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You obviously know nothing about Universities. UW is a very highly ranked public university. While it is not ranked as high as CAL, its not too far off. It is very difficult to get into. I went to Cal and I am very happy with my experience and was very lucky to have the opportunity to go there. But, the same can be said of UW.

Please don't make derogatory statements about Universities that others have gone to or attend, especially when you don't know the facts.

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Nice defense of one of the schools...


I take it the other school is what he claims it to be?

SonOfCalVa;842187015 said:

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Sorry, buddie, but I've spent decades around uDuh graduates, in the community and on the job, and the quality of ability, performance and scholarship is low.

Fact, buddie.

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Fact buddie, you are wrong. Look at US News and world reports if you don't believe me. Living in Washington and practicing in the medical profession, I interact with UW graduates on a daily basis. Their education, ability to write, and their real world skills are excellent. Furthermore, UW is very difficult to get into.

And again, the purpose of this board is not to put down somebody else's education.

Have some class.

BG, see any interactions with McCain on the sidelines during the game?

blungld;842186770 said:

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Yeah, I know. I was yelling "Turn around Bears. Eyes on the field."

Once the fans knew they had the players listening, they smelled blood. A few comments were clever fan heckling, but most was bonehead tough guy posturing from the safety of the stands. Wanted so badly to say something. Wanted even more badly for one Duck fan to stand up against their own and say knock it off.

I really hate the part of people that can only be happy if they are superior to others. It is the smallest most petty aspect of our psyche. Why not just celebrate your team's success? Why is it only fun if the other guys are miserable? Truly sick. Hate it when I see Cal fans do the same--that's why I have always detested the "you suck" cheer. Not because it's juvenile, but because it's pathological.

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And yet it's OK to do that with respect to furd? Sorry to seem to nitpick. Your post is magnificent as always. And I have become a big fan of you, but I'm just saying that I'm not a big fan of the way we demonize Stanford routinely. There are some things about Stanford to legitimately criticize, but there are plenty of times when folks have crossed the line because it is Stanford and that makes it OK. I think Stanford fans are pretty cool folks and deserve better.

The highlighted portion qualifies as some of the most refreshing stuff I've seen on this board.

heartofthebear;842187203 said:

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And yet it's OK to do that with respect to furd? Sorry to seem to nitpick. Your post is magnificent as always. And I have become a big fan of you, but I'm just saying that I'm not a big fan of the way we demonize Stanford routinely. There are some things about Stanford to legitimately criticize, but there are plenty of times when folks have crossed the line because it is Stanford and that makes it OK. I think Stanford fans are pretty cool folks and deserve better.

The highlighted portion qualifies as some of the most refreshing stuff I've seen on this board.

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Amen, brother.

Is this activity just a Greek/drunkard thing?

Great post Blungld! You're one of my favorite posters on this board! Your posts are always reasoned and insightful.

Just for the record: We went to the game in Eugene yesterday (and got home late this afternoon). For two days prior to the game we walked a lot around town and the university and stopped for a beverage here and a meal there. I always wore my Cal hat (if not more Cal gear). During those two days many Oregon fans came up to us, and without exception they were friendly and gracious. We heard comments like "Thank you for coming up to the game." "Good luck." And even a couple of well intentioned "Go Bears" from folks wearing Oregon gear.

During the game we sat up high surrounded by Oregon fans, and heard not one negative comment from anyone, either in our seats or during the long hike up there.

This was our third trip to Eugene for a Cal-Oregon game, and our experience with the fans on the first two trips was pretty similar to this one.

BTW yesterday we also stayed in our seats until the final play. My view is that if our players are going to stick it out under such adverse conditions (weather and game), we should too.

My well traveled college away game USC friends say the fans in Eugene are a cross between Deliverance and the bar scene in Star Wars....

heartofthebear;842187203 said:

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And yet it's OK to do that with respect to furd? Sorry to seem to nitpick. Your post is magnificent as always. And I have become a big fan of you, but I'm just saying that I'm not a big fan of the way we demonize Stanford routinely. There are some things about Stanford to legitimately criticize, but there are plenty of times when folks have crossed the line because it is Stanford and that makes it OK. I think Stanford fans are pretty cool folks and deserve better.

The highlighted portion qualifies as some of the most refreshing stuff I've seen on this board.

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Your post is confusing. I'm not particularly happy to be superior to Stanford. I just am superior. Facts are facts. If they don't like it, they shouldn't go to Furd. And their misery is objectively entertaining. Who wouldn't revel in Furd misery? I don't understand what you are saying.

AutzenAscendance;842187007 said:

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One notable incident was when Ashley Sears, 19, an OSU student, threw white paint on several members of the UO band minutes before halftime, according to Oregon State Police logs.

Sears, who had a blood-alcohol-content of nearly .08 percent, was cited for second-degree disorderly conduct, second-degree criminal mischief and being a minor in possession of alcohol.

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Sorry dude, but this is pretty weak. I don't have a dog in the fight between ducks and beavers but is the best you can do pointing out that a tipsy girl threw paint on your band? My favorite it is the reference to her "nearly .08 percent" BAC. Good lord, she was almost too drunk to drive!

AutzenAscendance;842187007 said:

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This is one of the most absurd posts I have ever read. For you to have mentioned your band needing escorts is laughable.

Perhaps you need a reminder from the 2008 Civil War. I do understand if you've blocked that game from your memory.....65-38.

http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/civil-war-crowd-turned-unruly/article_410ea703-2877-541a-9de7-c78cc95a2c37.html

One notable incident was when Ashley Sears, 19, an OSU student, threw white paint on several members of the UO band minutes before halftime, according to Oregon State Police logs.

Sears, who had a blood-alcohol-content of nearly .08 percent, was cited for second-degree disorderly conduct, second-degree criminal mischief and being a minor in possession of alcohol.

I have been in Reser(and previous to that, Parker). I have witnessed first hand the vile behavior of your drunken, enraged, bitter fans(students and non-students alike) acting like complete buffoons.

The "bitter factor" with your post is sad, but entertaining.

If you want to compare # of citations at our respective venues each home game, you will definitely see that Oregon has a higher number, but that's only relative to the fact that we have 60k at Autzen each Saturday as opposed to 30k-35k.

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What is it about the Northwest schools that they are so prone to having fights with each other on other teams' boards?

Boot;842186773 said:

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I've always felt most duck fans are as$holes. They travel drunk and stupid and there male fans are worse.

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Not to mention almost all of Oregon's players and students are from California! LOL!

OaktownBear;842187258 said:

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Your post is confusing. I'm not particularly happy to be superior to Stanford. I just am superior. Facts are facts. If they don't like it, they shouldn't go to Furd. And their misery is objectively entertaining. Who wouldn't revel in Furd misery? I don't understand what you are saying.

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Maybe it's because I wasn't speaking to you. I'm not sure why you take my posts as attacks on you. I'm in total agreement with you. I don't really disagree with the above statement either. It's one thing to be superior to someone, it's another to make them into total evil. That's where some Cal folks fail to draw the line.

blungld;842186781 said:

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It's not Raider fan at all. You should go. The element is in every stadium. Half the PAC 12 is worse. It's a great stadium and visiting Portland and the campus here is well worth it. in 99.9% of the time confrontation is two way street--it's what you project and making smart decisions.

Go!

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What does Portland have to do with Eugene?

Candlestick North?

heartofthebear;842187273 said:

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Maybe it's because I wasn't speaking to you. I'm not sure why you take my posts as attacks on you. I'm in total agreement with you. I don't really disagree with the above statement either. It's one thing to be superior to someone, it's another to make them into total evil. That's where some Cal folks fail to draw the line.

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Dude, it was a joke