For those pointing out his other offers, I'll just leave this here: http://larrybrownsports.com/football/aaron-rodgers-and-ben-roethlisberger-had-only-one-scholarship-offer-for-college/51539

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edg64;842272207 said:

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SoCal here;

Forget the stars, etc and the questioning of his stats, etc
Mater Dei HS is only a Division 5 school(enrollment), but, they are a football factory and year after year play one of the toughest schedules in California. The BI nation is predominately NorCal myopic, with De LaSalle close by; but, any player that makes the Mater Dei team has to be a baller. The player competition, along with the tough schedules has the grads of Mater Dei ready to go.

If Luke and Shane are at Cal, there will be a HUGE QB controversy between these two guys in 2015. Goff will be listed 3rd on the depth.

Getting Shane to Cal, and he plays, perhaps the Bears can make inroads at Mater Dei. Right now, USC is a lead there. RB Watson is from Corona Centennial and the same applies to him and his HS. Getting Watson, Shane and Brown, and playing them, will bring Cal to the attention on the Inland Empire. Now AU, ASU UCLA and$C in this area and they get the ballers. Cal can, also.

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edg64;842272207 said:

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SoCal here;

Forget the stars, etc and the questioning of his stats, etc
Mater Dei HS is only a Division 5 school(enrollment), but, they are a football factory and year after year play one of the toughest schedules in California. The BI nation is predominately NorCal myopic, with De LaSalle close by; but, any player that makes the Mater Dei team has to be a baller. The player competition, along with the tough schedules has the grads of Mater Dei ready to go.

If Luke and Shane are at Cal, there will be a HUGE QB controversy between these two guys in 2015. Goff will be listed 3rd on the depth.

Getting Shane to Cal, and he plays, perhaps the Bears can make inroads at Mater Dei. Right now, USC is a lead there. RB Watson is from Corona Centennial and the same applies to him and his HS. Getting Watson, Shane and Brown, and playing them, will bring Cal to the attention on the Inland Empire. Now AU, ASU UCLA and$C in this area and they get the ballers. Cal can, also.

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Shane? Do you mean Chase?

calbear93;842272203 said:

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You're assuming that he would choose a preferred walk-on at Cal over a full ride at Vandy? Why? The coaches decided that we needed a second QB in this class, and he looks like a great get for this purpose this late in the game.

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He was one of four QBs Vanderbilt was targeting and I didn't see any Vandy offer on any of the major recruiting sites. Here is a tweet saying no offer was ever extended as of his commitment to Cal:

All 4 of those QBs are 2-star types with small offer lists and Vandy is looking for a new QB since their last two targets K.J. and Trace were 4/3 stars that switched commitments to Washington and Penn State.

kaplanfx;842272214 said:

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For those pointing out his other offers, I'll just leave this here: http://larrybrownsports.com/football/aaron-rodgers-and-ben-roethlisberger-had-only-one-scholarship-offer-for-college/51539

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It's so disingenuous to cherry pick a few unheralded QB's while conveniently leaving out the fact that out of all the NFL QB's out there, the majority have (many) high D1 offers.

I like this guy from what I've seen of his interviews and what I know of his background. His tape makes me a little skeptical that he will be able to compete with Luke or Goff though. Reminds me of Hinder, except Hinder put up incredible numbers and had offers from 3 of the 4 California schools, Notre Dame, Alabama and like 10 other BCS conf schools.

StillNoStanfurdium;842272229 said:

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He was one of four QBs Vanderbilt was targeting and I didn't see any Vandy offer on any of the major recruiting sites. Here is a tweet saying no offer was ever extended as of his commitment to Cal:

All 4 of those QBs are 2-star types with small offer lists and Vandy is looking for a new QB since their last two targets K.J. and Trace were 4/3 stars that switched commitments to Washington and Penn State.

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There is another tweet out there saying Vandy just offered from Justin Hopkins.

Thank you Jamonit for embarrassing me in front of 10,000 NorCal BIs
'Shane' is very close 'Chase'. I just got excited having another SoCal end up at Cal

jamonit;842272256 said:

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There is another tweet out there saying Vandy just offered from Justin Hopkins.

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So the 247 Sports Pac-12 Recruiting Guy's word vs. the Rivals Vanderbilt Feed. Take it as you will.

You overestimated the number of BI posters. There are probably only about 2500 of us.

“There’s guys on the message boards who have four personalities and have arguments with themselves." (Sony Dykes, November 2013)

Justin Hopkins is reporting that we just offered WR Donovan Walker a preferred walkon spot.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=6786063

PABear;842272265 said:

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Justin Hopkins is reporting that we just offered WR Donovan Walker a preferred walkon spot.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=6786063

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Yah Walker tweeted #CalGang earlier today so I was wondering what that was all about. Welcome Donovan! Looks like he really wanted an offer but will try and prove he did. Two days ago he Tweeted this:

Donovan Walker @D_isBeast
So I guess they wanna see how I do what I do. About to put this work in. #AlwaysCompeting #turndownforwhat #beastmode

edg64;842272207 said:

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If Luke and Shane are at Cal, there will be a HUGE QB controversy between these two guys in 2015. Goff will be listed 3rd on the depth.

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Although I agree w/ your point about the importance of establishing the Mater Dei pipeline, that is an absurd statement.

Recent quote;


Chino Hills (Calif.) wide out Donovan Walker has established himself this spring as one of the state’s top pass catchers.[U] Walker said [/U]three schools stand out and the first one to offer will get his commitment.

Big C_Cal;842272183 said:

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?.. from what I saw, Rubenzer was only 2-3 inches away from being a high four-star, maybe even a five-star.

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it's going around.

SFBear - perhaps, but, running QBs, not scramblers, are in Dykes' future.

manus;842272167 said:

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Akina, with a good dose of Jimmy Buffett, could probably do the trick.

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Akina could probably turn this guy into an all-Pac 12 safety and then send him on to The League. Akina is just that good.

SFBear2012;842272281 said:

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Although I agree w/ your point about the importance of establishing the Mater Dei pipeline, that is an absurd statement.

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Sorry, but I also love the patronizing tone from a "SoCal". Most of us who pay any attention to recruiting know who Mater Dei is.

Davidson;842272090 said:

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without a doubt, franklin sure likes his QBs to be able to run

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he's seen our offensive line (emphasis on offensive)

Then why is this tread so full of 'who is this guy' and why a scholly?

edg64;842272297 said:

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Then why is this tread so full of 'who is this guy' and why a scholly?

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Because Mater Dei does not magically mean every single prospect out of there will be can't miss. Recruiting sites know about Mater Dei. Other schools do too. But yet they didn't offer or regard Forrest as highly. He's not under the radar at all which makes these low ratings/offers even more puzzling.

Besides, what are some recent Mater Dei success stories? Matt Barkley maybe? Wittek? Eh.

StillNoStanfurdium;842272301 said:

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Because Mater Dei does not magically mean every single prospect out of there will be can't miss. Recruiting sites know about Mater Dei. Other schools do too. But yet they didn't offer or regard Forrest as highly. He's not under the radar at all which makes these low ratings/offers even more puzzling.

Besides, what are some recent Mater Dei success stories? Matt Barkley maybe? Wittek? Eh.

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Perhaps they think his success is due to a large supporting cast.
Perhaps recruiting sites are run by a bunch of clowns that think they know how to judge talent.

StillNoStanfurdium;842272261 said:

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So the 247 Sports Pac-12 Recruiting Guy's word vs. the Rivals Vanderbilt Feed. Take it as you will.

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Good point. I was just showing that I didn't just make it up and pull it out of nowhere

edg64;842272259 said:

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Thank you Jamonit for embarrassing me in front of 10,000 NorCal BIs
'Shane' is very close 'Chase'. I just got excited having another SoCal end up at Cal

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No embarrassment at all. Just making sure it was Chase before I search high and low for a Shane recruit!

cmfan64;842272149 said:

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He has many of the skills that are needed in our offense. He is a very good athlete and a tough competitor. He fits the pattern of our recent recruits (good athlete, good student, high character). I love to see us recruiting the OC. and the Trinity League in particular. Since no one beat SJB, I wouldn't hold that against Chase. He led Mater Dei to some big wins over very tough teams. He will come in ready to compete for playing time in the future. :gobears:

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Trained under George Whitfield Jr, elite QB private coach, who has been credited by both Andrew Luck and Cam Newton as instrumental in their development. Mater Dei, known as 'QB High' (2 went on to win Heisman's: Huarte and Leinart). Current USC QB Matt Barkley, Heisman candidate, played in Mater Dei's
high skill/technique driven system. They run a Pro-style offense. 2013,10th ranked HS Team in California. Interviewed after landing a Cal scholarship, Forrest was unfazed about competing with Goff, Hinder and Rubenzer. In reading OC newspapers recap of Mater Dei's 11 Win Season, they consistently describe the 'lights-out' play of Chase Forrest.
If Cal's QB competition is wide-open in Spring Practice, the 6'3" Forrest will push the other QB's.

kaplanfx;842272214 said:

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For those pointing out his other offers, I'll just leave this here: http://larrybrownsports.com/football/aaron-rodgers-and-ben-roethlisberger-had-only-one-scholarship-offer-for-college/51539

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Oh wow! We just got the next Aaron Rodgers!

RDB73;842272448 said:

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Trained under George Whitfield Jr, elite QB private coach, who has been credited by both Andrew Luck and Cam Newton as instrumental in their development. Mater Dei, known as 'QB High' (2 went on to win Heisman's: Huarte and Leinart). Current USC QB Matt Barkley, Heisman candidate, played in Mater Dei's
high skill/technique driven system. They run a Pro-style offense. 2013,10th ranked HS Team in California. Interviewed after landing a Cal scholarship, Forrest was unfazed about competing with Goff, Hinder and Rubenzer. In reading OC newspapers recap of Mater Dei's 11 Win Season, they consistently describe the 'lights-out' play of Chase Forrest.
If Cal's QB competition is wide-open in Spring Practice, the 6'3" Forrest will push the other QB's.

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Welcome to the board Mister Forrest.

So why did your son choose Cal over EWU?....

RDB73;842272448 said:

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Trained under George Whitfield Jr, elite QB private coach, who has been credited by both Andrew Luck and Cam Newton as instrumental in their development. Mater Dei, known as 'QB High' (2 went on to win Heisman's: Huarte and Leinart). Current USC QB Matt Barkley, Heisman candidate, played in Mater Dei's
high skill/technique driven system. They run a Pro-style offense. 2013,10th ranked HS Team in California. Interviewed after landing a Cal scholarship, Forrest was unfazed about competing with Goff, Hinder and Rubenzer. In reading OC newspapers recap of Mater Dei's 11 Win Season, they consistently describe the 'lights-out' play of Chase Forrest.
If Cal's QB competition is wide-open in Spring Practice, the 6'3" Forrest will push the other QB's.

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Sounds great!

Lots of kids are under the radar so 'previous offers' criteria doesn't mean squat as far as to those.

BearlyClad;842272598 said:

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Sounds great!

Lots of kids are under the radar so 'previous offers' criteria doesn't mean squat as far as to those.

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In no universe is a QB on a nationally ranked Mater Dei team "under the radar".

concernedparent;842272604 said:

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In no universe is a QB on a nationally ranked Mater Dei team "under the radar".

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You mean unless he didn't play much due to injury, or was behind another, or ....

So, we should judge by the other offers received in any event....

edg64;842272297 said:

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Then why is this tread so full of 'who is this guy' and why a scholly?

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This guy had no major offers before January 2014 and he started the last two seasons at one of the most high profile programs in the state?

I read that blurb from the Times and thought - did they mean to say Cal Poly? When did he trip to Cal?

This kid could be great. He could beat out Luke when the time comes. He could come in and be the best QB on the roster. Does seem strange though to offer a second HS Sr QB at this point, unless the thought is he could convert to another position.

Unless we think one of the QBs will play this year with the other redshirting, we will wind up with a scenario like we did this past year with 2 QBs in the same class. With as many holes we need to fill in the roster, this news is a bit of a head-scratcher at the moment.

calbearo;842272733 said:

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Unless we think one of the QBs will play this year with the other redshirting, we will wind up with a scenario like we did this past year with 2 QBs in the same class. With as many holes we need to fill in the roster, this news is a bit of a head-scratcher at the moment.

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Who are those two quarterbacks from the same recruiting class you're talking about?

BearlyClad;842272598 said:

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Sounds great!

Lots of kids are under the radar so 'previous offers' criteria doesn't mean squat as far as to those.

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No Mater Dei QB is under the radar. It's about as high profile as you can get in Socal HS FB.

edg64;842272297 said:

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Then why is this tread so full of 'who is this guy' and why a scholly?

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I am not commenting on Chase because I haven't seen him. But your argument that everyone at Mater Dei is a baller and if we knew Mater Dei that fact alone would mean we shouldn't question an offer is ridiculous on its face. Most starters at Mater Dei, like most starters at DLS do not get BCS conference offers. Sorry, but if anything guys who at those schools get tons of exposure, so if they get two stars and no major offers it normally means that they were evaluated at that level vs. another guy who goes to a lesser known school and MAY get that rating because he was not seen very much. For instance, for myopic SoCals who don't know the Bay Area, a 4 star qb from a school like Marin Catholic has to make his own press clippings.

Which brings me to my second point. These pronouncements of every QB recruit beating out Goff are ridiculous. Goff had a fabulous HS career to match either guy, and was higher rated. Last year instead of running around with a bunch of 17 year olds or getting to develop his skills at practice as a redshirt, we got to see him develop real time, warts and all, and he is being punished for it. Frankly, the people that are so sure Rubenzer is going to come in and beat him out are either dramatically overrating Rubenzer (who is an excellent PROSPECT) or dramatically underrating Goff. Upping the ante and saying he is going to be third string in 2015 behind both guys is ridiculous. And, the Air Raid is most dependent on having an experienced QB that makes the right reads and delivers the ball accurately and on time. Running ability is nice to have, but this isn't Oregon's offense. Dykes (like Tedford) has run his offense with QBs that can run and those who can't. Foles wasn't exactly fleet of foot. Predicting that not one, but two guys that haven't even practiced at D1 are going to beat out Goff is both silly and disrespectful to Goff. He may well get beaten out at some point, but to say both guys are going to do it, and to say it without ever seeing them take a snap against D1 competition is ridiculous.

This really isn't that hard to fathom. Goff is the starter. End of story. We have Hinder and Boehm next year, and we may lose both and certainly one to graduation. As a consequence, you have to be open to Luke being second not third in depth chart. That is especially true if you also consider Goff could go pro in his third year.

Worst case Forrest is a "care taker" who can back up Luke. Then the guy you get next year isn't pressed into service early like Goff was. Best case he pushes and maybe over takes him. It makes perfect sense.

There doesn't always have to be an agenda or a problem. Sometimes, it is just a matter on long term planning for the program. DLs is a major program down here and this is a good entre which can play out several ways, all perfectly fine for the program.

aweissburg;842272760 said:

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This really isn't that hard to fathom. Goff is the starter. End of story. We have Hinder and Boehm next year, and we may lose both and certainly one to graduation. As a consequence, you have to be open to Luke being second not third in depth chart. That is especially true if you also consider Goff could go pro in his third year.

Worst case Forrest is a "care taker" who can back up Luke. Then the guy you get next year isn't pressed into service early like Goff was. Best case he pushes and maybe over takes him. It makes perfect sense.

There doesn't always have to be an agenda or a problem. Sometimes, it is just a matter on long term planning for the program. DLs is a major program down here and this is a good entre which can play out several ways, all perfectly fine for the program.

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Well Boehm is not a QB anymore except when they run him in the bone package. They currently have 2 schollie QBs and 2 recruits which only will give us 4 QBs... We want 5 and after next year we will be there. One QB that is coming in will most likely be at least 3rd if they don't beat out Hinder for 2nd. That means one can redshirt and this will separate the class a little.