Phantomfan;842297830 said:

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A bunch of circumstantial evidence...

What a strange thing....but this is some crazy trash writing, it looks like.

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Agree. And not surprisingly, linked by okaydo.

philly1121;842297851 said:

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YuSee - I'm curious as to why you think he should renegotiate his contract when he has 2-3 years left on his current one? That being said, I do think the report was irresponsible but I'm sure there's more to the story than his affiliations. Desean has an attitude problem. Whether one thinks that this is the reason for his being cut - no one knows.

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Nailed it Philly. We don't know what really is going on. To say an org. is classless because they dissed a Cal player is off base. Before Chip ( who I think is a Dork, but good coach) ,Andy Reid was a very good guy. There was a lot of writing on the wall with Desean. Let's ask Plaxico Burress. :p

1979bear;842297867 said:

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First, I loved Jackson at Cal. Attitude? He was the best player on the team. He backed up EVERYTHING.

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+1000

DeSean was a Bear who weighed 165 lbs. and played the game at an incredibly high level. To ask him to do it without attitude is like asking a fighter-pilot to enter a dogfight on downers. A cocky attitude is the key ingredient of success.

CalifoniaGoldenBearAid;842297898 said:

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GB baby! Rodgers + Desean = Super Bowl(2)

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Unless they get help on D no prayer.

davetdds;842297903 said:

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Nailed it Philly. We don't know what really is going on. To say an org. is classless because they dissed a Cal player is off base. Before Chip ( who I think is a Dork, but good coach) ,Andy Reid was a very good guy. There was a lot of writing on the wall with Desean. Let's ask Plaxico Burress. :p

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It's not off base to call out an organization that cuts a player, then slams the guy to the press. It's bad enough they decide not to honor the contract, but to turn around and disparage him so that he'll have trouble landing another contract for comparable value, simply makes no sense.

In fact, the Eagles did a favor for DeSean's next team by trying to drive his value down. Why not be amicable and let DeSean's next team worry about fitting in a new contract under the cap? Why help out a competitor by hurting his value? It just seems rather vindictive and uncalled for when DeSean did so much for the team. He's a 3 time pro bowler, and he's coming off a career year. He deserved better than that.

Andy Reid already came out in support of DeSean. Your comment about Plaxico is nonsensical. He's just a dude who shot himself in the leg. What does he have to do with anything?

YuSeeBerkeley;842297834 said:

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So the Eagles give an extension to their white WR who divided the locker room after being caught on tape using the N word, but decide to cut DeSean, who's got a clean record, just because he has a friend who's in a gang? I have a friend who is a former gang member. Does that make me susceptible to committing murders like Aaron Hernandez?

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Yes.

YuSeeBerkeley;842297917 said:

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It's not off base to call out an organization that cuts a player, then slams the guy to the press. It's bad enough they decide not to honor the contract, but to turn around and disparage him so that he'll have trouble landing another contract for comparable value, simply makes no sense.

In fact, the Eagles did a favor for DeSean's next team by trying to drive his value down. Why not be amicable and let DeSean's next team worry about fitting in a new contract under the cap? Why help out a competitor by hurting his value? It just seems rather vindictive and uncalled for when DeSean did so much for the team. He's a 3 time pro bowler, and he's coming off a career year. He deserved better than that.

Andy Reid already came out in support of DeSean. Your comment about Plaxico is nonsensical. He's just a dude who shot himself in the leg. What does he have to do with anything?

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+1. Screw the Eagles.

YuSeeBerkeley;842297834 said:

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So the Eagles give an extension to their white WR who divided the locker room after being caught on tape using the N word, but decide to cut DeSean, who's got a clean record, just because he has a friend who's in a gang? I have a friend who is a former gang member. Does that make me susceptible to committing murders like Aaron Hernandez? Give me a break. It's about the money, and the Eagles knew the fall out would be bad, so they wait until a Friday to drop the bomb and leak a bogus story about DeSean's character. What a classless organization.

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Totally agree. I'm no lawyer but I wonder if spreading speculative and very damaging rumors like this can qualify as slander/libel. It's pretty f'ed up.

YuSeeBerkeley;842297917 said:

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It's not off base to call out an organization that cuts a player, then slams the guy to the press. It's bad enough they decide not to honor the contract, but to turn around and disparage him so that he'll have trouble landing another contract for comparable value, simply makes no sense.

In fact, the Eagles did a favor for DeSean's next team by trying to drive his value down. Why not be amicable and let DeSean's next team worry about fitting in a new contract under the cap? Why help out a competitor by hurting his value? It just seems rather vindictive and uncalled for when DeSean did so much for the team. He's a 3 time pro bowler, and he's coming off a career year. He deserved better than that.

Andy Reid already came out in support of DeSean. Your comment about Plaxico is nonsensical. He's just a dude who shot himself in the leg. What does he have to do with anything?

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YuSee - you're starting from the assumption that everything that Desean did while at Philadelphia was beyond reproach. And that everything that the organization is doing is vindictive. Just because Desean had a career year doesn't mean he's entitled to renegotiate. Besides, looking at what he was due to make in 2014 - it would have made him the highest paid player on the Eagles at $12.5 million as base salary. That's probably the reason they cut him.

He was due to make $10.5 as a base, with a $2 million signing bonus, and $2 million Misc bonus. He had until 2016 on his current contract. The difference between his base in 2014 and his 2013 base is about $3.2 million. That's why they cut him.

Now he's free to test the open market. I think he'd probably take that. With my luck - watch him wind up with my Cowboys. lol

okaydo;842297804 said:

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Read this....article came out not long before he was cut.
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/03/eagles_desean_jackson_off-the-field_troubles.html

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Ha! If they arrested people for that around here, about half the drivers of cars in Oakland would be in jail!

I hate tinted windows, but this is absurd.

That being said, Jackson's association with known LA Crips gang members is troubling indeed.

And people accuse Marshawn of being a thug!

YuSeeBerkeley;842297917 said:

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It's not off base to call out an organization that cuts a player, then slams the guy to the press. It's bad enough they decide not to honor the contract, but to turn around and disparage him so that he'll have trouble landing another contract for comparable value, simply makes no sense.

In fact, the Eagles did a favor for DeSean's next team by trying to drive his value down. Why not be amicable and let DeSean's next team worry about fitting in a new contract under the cap? Why help out a competitor by hurting his value? It just seems rather vindictive and uncalled for when DeSean did so much for the team. He's a 3 time pro bowler, and he's coming off a career year. He deserved better than that.

Andy Reid already came out in support of DeSean. Your comment about Plaxico is nonsensical. He's just a dude who shot himself in the leg. What does he have to do with anything?

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ok Mr. " No sense of humor " I f you didn't know what I was getting at, so be it. Move on

After reading this article I see no real disparaging remarks. Seems like others may be saying the same thing.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10688873/desean-jackson-released-philadelphia-eagles

sycasey;842297832 said:

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Though I do not deny the possibility that Jackson may have a poor attitude, this article is built on pretty flimsy evidence. As near as I can tell, his associations are "troubling" because he runs a music label that has gangsters signed to it and because he was once arrested for marijuana possession (horrors!).

A pretty transparent hit piece, actually.

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Any parent would be pretty concerned if their kid was hanging out with LA gang members and flashing gang signs in pictures for all the world to see.

Or is this an un PC thing to think or say?

TandemBear;842297937 said:

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Any parent would be pretty concerned if their kid was hanging out with LA gang members and flashing gang signs in pictures for all the world to see.

Or is this an un PC thing to think or say?

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Maybe Desean shares Hannibal Burress' opinions on gangs as well: "I want to be a Crip, but minus the gangbanging and shooting people, because if you take all that away, it seems like they just dance and go to barbecues all the time.”

TandemBear;842297937 said:

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Any parent would be pretty concerned if their kid was hanging out with LA gang members and flashing gang signs in pictures for all the world to see.

Or is this an un PC thing to think or say?

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Hopefully, these hand gestures have no gang affiliation.

TandemBear;842297937 said:

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Any parent would be pretty concerned if their kid was hanging out with LA gang members and flashing gang signs in pictures for all the world to see.

Or is this an un PC thing to think or say?

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I've yet to see a picture where DeSean is flashing gang signs.

okaydo;842297956 said:

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Hopefully, these hand gestures have no gang affiliation.

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they're just wannabe van buren boys

TandemBear;842297937 said:

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Any parent would be pretty concerned if their kid was hanging out with LA gang members and flashing gang signs in pictures for all the world to see.

Or is this an un PC thing to think or say?

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Except he's not a kid, he's a professional football player and a grown man. There's no reason any of this should be reported in the news.

Here's an interesting story from Monty Poole, recouting DeSean's visit to San Quentin.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/desean-jackson-walks-gangsters

grandmastapoop;842297958 said:

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I've yet to see a picture where DeSean is flashing gang signs.

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http://larrybrownsports.com/football/desean-jackson-crips-gang-sign-deangelo-hall/203386

http://www.businessinsider.com/desean-jackson-alleged-gang-sign-2014-3

LACalFan;842297968 said:

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http://larrybrownsports.com/football/desean-jackson-crips-gang-sign-deangelo-hall/203386

http://www.businessinsider.com/desean-jackson-alleged-gang-sign-2014-3

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It's been a long time since I was in middle school and suburban kids threw up gang signs to try to be cool, but I've never seen that referred to as the Crip gang sign - and googling the Crip gang sign does not reveal that sign at all.

grandmastapoop;842297969 said:

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It's been a long time since I was in middle school and suburban kids threw up gang signs to try to be cool, but I've never seen that referred to as the Crip gang sign - and googling the Crip gang sign does not reveal that sign at all.

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I don't know anything about gang signs either, but that first link I provided seems to lay out a good case that it might be a Crips sign.

LACalFan;842297975 said:

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I don't know anything about gang signs either, but that first link I provided seems to lay out a good case that it might be a Crips sign.

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Personally, I'm not buying it. Looks to me like they are both simply making a common gesture, and it's not a gang sign.

grandmastapoop;842297976 said:

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Personally, I'm not buying it. Looks to me like they are both simply making a common gesture, and it's not a gang sign.

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Or maybe Marshawn and Michael Silver are crips, too.







Or maybe DeSean is a massive Full House fan:

LACalFan;842297975 said:

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I don't know anything about gang signs either, but that first link I provided seems to lay out a good case that it might be a Crips sign.

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What is a "gang sign"?
Does any hand gesture made by a gang member qualify?
Does the circumstance determine the status?
Or does there need to be some recognized meaning communicated by it?

Articles require assumption that the gestures are true gang signs, but don't do anything to illuminate whether or not they actually are.

grandmastapoop;842297976 said:

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Personally, I'm not buying it. Looks to me like they are both simply making a common gesture, and it's not a gang sign.

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You might be right but here's a quote from the second link:

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In the report, a Los Angeles Police Department detective Eric Crosson alleges that Jackson used a gang sign during the Eagles' nationally-televised, season-opening game against the Washington Redskins (see GIF below).

"You don't want to see anybody throwing up gang signs like he did in the Redskins game last year," Crosson said. "Those were neighborhood Crip gang signs and he flashed them during a game. He may not be affiliated with the gang, but they don't [ordinarily] take kindly to those not in the gang throwing up those gang signs."

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http://www.businessinsider.com/desean-jackson-alleged-gang-sign-2014-3

LACalFan;842297983 said:

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You might be right but here's a quote from the second link:



http://www.businessinsider.com/desean-jackson-alleged-gang-sign-2014-3

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Read that. Saw the gif. It honestly looks to me like he's simply pointing at something off camera. It's a pretty common hand gesture - and while it might be a gang sign as the officer claims, I'd say it's impossible to claim that DeSean is trying to throw up that gang sign in that gif.

I'm not saying those aren't gang signs, or couldn't possibly be gang signs, but the next time I adopt the LAPD's position wholesale & without scrutiny will be the first.

LACalFan;842297968 said:

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http://larrybrownsports.com/football/desean-jackson-crips-gang-sign-deangelo-hall/203386

http://www.businessinsider.com/desean-jackson-alleged-gang-sign-2014-3

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That's not a crip gang sign, period. Furthermore, he grew up in a gang area. If you didn't, you wouldn't understand this, but you take on the language and identify of the neighborhood even if you are not an actual gang member. Plenty of people are affiliated just in passing. There are the real gang members, and then everyone else who fits in. You say "what's up cuz" even if you aren't a hardened gang member. It's just the way it is. Hell, I'm a professional 36 year old attorney, and I still say "what's up blood" on occasion when talking to friends who know my background, because that was my everyday parlance growing up. That doesn't make me a gang member. I have plenty of old friends that do the same.

Btw, if that's a crip sign, then cal fans / rally comm are flashing crip by making the "c" with their hands. This is such a joke, except it's exactly the opposite. YouSee has a very good point - what motivation does philly have to sully his name now? They cut him, why try to bury him in the press making his value less for their competitors? They either are out to bury him because they are jerks or are doing it to get a pass from their fans. Most likely the latter but I guess both could apply.

LACalFan;842297975 said:

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I don't know anything about gang signs either, but that first link I provided seems to lay out a good case that it might be a Crips sign.

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Better than a Bloods sign.

Vandalus;842297987 said:

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That's not a crip gang sign, period. Furthermore, he grew up in a gang area. If you didn't, you wouldn't understand this, but you take on the language and identify of the neighborhood even if you are not an actual gang member. Plenty of people are affiliated just in passing. There are the real gang members, and then everyone else who fits in. You say "what's up cuz" even if you aren't a hardened gang member. It's just the way it is. Hell, I'm a professional 36 year old attorney, and I still say "what's up blood" on occasion when talking to friends who know my background, because that was my everyday parlance growing up. That doesn't make me a gang member. I have plenty of old friends that do the same.

Btw, if that's a crip sign, then cal fans / rally comm are flashing crip by making the "c" with their hands. This is such a joke, except it's exactly the opposite. YouSee has a very good point - what motivation does philly have to sully his name now? They cut him, why try to bury him in the press making his value less for their competitors? They either are out to bury him because they are jerks or are doing it to get a pass from their fans. Most likely the latter but I guess both could apply.

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The first link was from last Sept '13, so it wasn't about the Eagles trying to diminish his value. I'll have to defer to your knowledge on the rest. Good points.

Vandalus;842297987 said:

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That's not a crip gang sign, period. Furthermore, he grew up in a gang area. If you didn't, you wouldn't understand this, but you take on the language and identify of the neighborhood even if you are not an actual gang member. Plenty of people are affiliated just in passing. There are the real gang members, and then everyone else who fits in. You say "what's up cuz" even if you aren't a hardened gang member. It's just the way it is. Hell, I'm a professional 36 year old attorney, and I still say "what's up blood" on occasion when talking to friends who know my background, because that was my everyday parlance growing up. That doesn't make me a gang member. I have plenty of old friends that do the same.

Btw, if that's a crip sign, then cal fans / rally comm are flashing crip by making the "c" with their hands. This is such a joke, except it's exactly the opposite. YouSee has a very good point - what motivation does philly have to sully his name now? They cut him, why try to bury him in the press making his value less for their competitors? They either are out to bury him because they are jerks or are doing it to get a pass from their fans. Most likely the latter but I guess both could apply.

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Wow, this is getting way OT .Hey Vandalus, I'm from Oaktown also, ( 20 years your senior ) and we said that a long long time ago.. They still say " blood "?? Thought it was more " Sup bro ? " now. :bluecarrot:

the hit they take against the cap doesn't make this a great financial decision, so that motivation really isn't there. His salary vs. his production is pretty much in-line with his numbers.
DeSean was popular-of course, you have a "walk-off" punt return against one of your rivals, then of course you are going to be well regarded! But in general, no one is bigger than the Eagles brand here in Philly, no has anyone ever been.

grandmastapoop;842297958 said:

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I've yet to see a picture where DeSean is flashing gang signs.

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http://instagram.com/p/la6ZXpuNoc/#


I have to be honest, I don't know much about gang signs but this was on the interwebs today.

Mr. Triangle;842298001 said:

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http://instagram.com/p/la6ZXpuNoc/#


I have to be honest, I don't know much about gang signs but this was on the interwebs today.

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Nice to see all the comments about gang signs being played out.

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ambur_nikko
That **** is soon 1990's #playedout
meme_melange
Agreed!!!! @ambur_nikko
kazwithkinks
@ambur_nikko agreed!
iixxviii
Ppl still rep gangs 😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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okaydo;842297956 said:

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Hopefully, these hand gestures have no gang affiliation.

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Penis sizes.

Evidenced by smug top left and sad bottom right.