Apparently tomorrow's Orioles game will be played with no fans allowed in the stadium. How often has that happened before, if ever? Good move or not?

Wow. I wonder if the league will be compensating the O's for lost ticket, merchandise, and concessions sales.

510Bear;842488251 said:

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Apparently tomorrow's Orioles game will be played with no fans allowed in the stadium. How often has that happened before, if ever? Good move or not?

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I heard it has never happened before in the history of MLB. Not sure if a good move but you have to balance safety with business. No doubt there will be critics on both sides. I would guess Baltimore can't keep suspending games without risk of forfeiture at some point or playing a ton of double headers.

Sounds like a typical weeknight game at candlestick.

All I know is that a few years ago, back in 2011, Oakland had a police chief named Anthony Batts.

He was charismatic, nakedly political and all about building himself up, while not really getting any results.

He seemed like the kind of police chief straight out of The Wire.

And where is Anthony Batts now? He's head of the Baltimore Police Department, of course.

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/oakland-is-better-off-without-batts/Content?oid=3019194

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/would-the-departure-of-anthony-batts-be-that-bad/Content?oid=2394728

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/the-absent-police-chief/Content?oid=3061814

Too bad it's not the A's. Nobody would notice.

GB54;842488257 said:

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Too bad it's not the A's. Nobody would notice.

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I think the Marlins would give them a run for their money.......

And in other Baltimore news, Ray Lewis definitely had something to say to the rioters. Which I think might have had more effect had he not made this speech from his mansion.

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510Bear;842488261 said:

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And in other Baltimore news, Ray Lewis definitely had something to say to the rioters. Which I think might have had more effect had he not made this speech from his mansion.

Is Aaron Hernandez going to call for peace, too?

Let Snoop talk to them.

GB54;842488257 said:

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Too bad it's not the A's. Nobody would notice.

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More cheap shots from Giants fan .... or just an A's hater

Or is this redundant

Giants fans continue to solidify their place amongst the most arrogant

Cal_Fan2;842488253 said:

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I heard it has never happened before in the history of MLB. Not sure if a good move but you have to balance safety with business. No doubt there will be critics on both sides. I would guess Baltimore can't keep suspending games without risk of forfeiture at some point or playing a ton of double headers.

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IMO the O's can probably justify the closing under teh War and Civil Unrest exception to contracts.
For me it is better to suffer some upset fans who missed the game in order to avoid much greater liability if the fans were allowed into the game and some were hurt seriously by the rioters before or after the game. the O's can't avoid liability by saying, "enter at your own risk" to all customers.

GB54;842488264 said:

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Let Snoop talk to them.

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i think wrong area wrong person ... imo ... i doubt snoop has the kind of traction needed there

Who cares where he made the speech from. He's talking common sense--something the rioters, looters, and hoodlums in the streets have none of. They should heed Lewis' advice.

20 years ago on an early Sunday morning an old college buddy called me and said he was in jail in Oakland and needed a referral to a criminal attorney. He said he had been drunk at a high school game at the Oakland Arena and had gotten into it with someone. He told me he was bruised from head to toe because after he got arrested the OPD cuffed him, chained his ankles, tossed him in the back of a paddy wagon, and then proceeded to drive him around a few Oakland streets taking sharp left and then right turns. He said he could not steady himself from rolling around like a ball in the back of the wagon. Unknown to me at the time, this was a "nickel ride" of the type that killed the guy in Baltimore. I guess he was lucky he got off with only bruises.

bearister;842488284 said:

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20 years ago on an early Sunday morning an old college buddy called me and said he was in jail in Oakland and needed a referral to a criminal attorney. He said he had been drunk at a high school game at the Oakland Arena and had gotten into it with someone. He told me he was bruised from head to toe because after he got arrested the OPD cuffed him, chained his ankles, tossed him in the back of a paddy wagon, and then proceeded to drive him around a few Oakland streets taking sharp left and then right turns. He said he could not steady himself from rolling around like a ball in the back of the wagon. Unknown to me at the time, this was a "nickel ride" of the type that killed the guy in Baltimore. I guess he was lucky he got off with only bruises.

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Ever hear of an "elevator stop"? It's where cops bring a suspect from one floor/holding cell to another in an elevator...but make a stop between floors to teach that person a lesson or beat the living crap out of him where no one can see. I understand Chicago is famous for it.

510Bear;842488251 said:

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Apparently tomorrow's Orioles game will be played with no fans allowed in the stadium. How often has that happened before, if ever? Good move or not?

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Not the same, but Dodger games were Cancelled Outright during the Watts riots.............

dinan3;842488294 said:

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Not the same, but Dodger games were Cancelled Outright during the Watts riots.............

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Watts riots, or Rodney King riots?

Golden One;842488281 said:

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Who cares where he made the speech from. He's talking common sense--something the rioters, looters, and hoodlums in the streets have none of. They should heed Lewis' advice.

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I have not been following this story as much as I did the Oakland Demonstrations last year.
But I did hear some statements yesterday on the radio from protestors who said they were protesting peacefully then the thugs from outside the City got involved who were determined to trash the area. (Sounds a lot like what happened in Oakland and Berkeley). So it is no wonder that the thugs who were doing all the rioting and looting will not listen. They are intent on creating damage.

68great;842488307 said:

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I have not been following this story as much as I did the Oakland Demonstrations last year.
But I did hear some statements yesterday on the radio from protestors who said they were protesting peacefully then the thugs from outside the City got involved who were determined to trash the area. (Sounds a lot like what happened in Oakland and Berkeley). So it is no wonder that the thugs who were doing all the rioting and looting will not listen. They are intent on creating damage.

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There probably were outsiders later on, but the initial riots started with high school kids getting out of school. The flyers and social media instigators that called for "a purge", might have been professional agitators though.

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BALTIMORE (WJZ) City Police Commissioner Anthony Batts told reporters late Monday night that a bulk of the rioters who pelted officers with rocks and bricks, inciting a massive display of looting and vandalism across parts of West Baltimore were area high schoolers.

"These are Baltimore youthful residents, a number of them came right out of the local high schools there on the other side of Mondawmin and started engaging in this," said Batts. "I think these were youth coming out of the high school and they thought it was cute to throw cinder blocks at the police department and address it that way."

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http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/04/28/police-commissioner-most-rioters-came-right-out-of-the-high-schools/

There were also the Vancouver riots in 2011, although that was different for a bunch of reasons. And it was the home team, not the fans, who didn't show up for that day's game.

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Cal_Fan2;842488309 said:

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There probably were outsiders later on, but the initial riots started with high school kids getting out of school. The flyers and social media instigators that called for "a purge", might have been professional agitators though.


http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/04/28/police-commissioner-most-rioters-came-right-out-of-the-high-schools/

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I'd agree, mostly opportunistic at this point. Bmore has terrible infrastructure so a lot of kids ride public transportation not city school buses; so mix together boredom, general rage, social media, etc, and you have large crews of roving bands at various points.

calgldnbear;842488268 said:

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More cheap shots from Giants fan .... or just an A's hater

Or is this redundant

Giants fans continue to solidify their place amongst the most arrogant

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I'm not a Giants fan or an A's fan. But win a pennant, much less a World Series, and then maybe you can give your neighbor fans lessons in humility.

Been watching bits and pieces of what's happening in Baltimore. Sad to see what's happening there. If it truly is high school kids that started these riots...then more of this is needed....



What kept me on the straight and narrow was the fear of having to deal with my parents when i 'effed up. Here's to hoping it stays calm in Baltimore.

BeachyBear;842488336 said:

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I'm not a Giants fan or an A's fan. But win a pennant, much less a World Series, and then maybe you can give your neighbor fans lessons in humility.

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The A's have four of them in Oakland. And have the third most World Series titles in the history of baseball (franchise behind Yankees and Cardinals). It isn't like they haven't been there and won ....

The A's also have plenty of playoff appearances in the past and recent past as well.

510Bear;842488251 said:

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Apparently tomorrow's Orioles game will be played with no fans allowed in the stadium. How often has that happened before, if ever?......

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I believe it has never been done before in MLB. But it happens periodically in European soccer. Usually its done to penalize a particular fan base. E.g., Team X's fans take part in massive racist chanting in a prior game. The league penalizes Team X by requiring a subsequent home game to be played in an empty stadium.

Stringer Bell for mayor!

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bearister;842488526 said:

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I'm pretty sure this is a video of the alumni reaction to the One Direction halftime show this last football season.

Pathetic.

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Ha. MD Gov. suspended Habeas Corpus, meaning rioters can be held without immediately being charged. Plus bail has been set at exorbitant amounts ($500k).

They are probably stacking them up 20 to a cell and throwing in baloney sandwiches and one roll of TP per day. Welcome to Hell boys.

But don't worry. Friday is May Day. They will clog the system.

93gobears;842488733 said:

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Ha. MD Gov. suspended Habeas Corpus, meaning rioters can be held without immediately being charged. Plus bail has been set at exorbitant amounts ($500k).

They are probably stacking them up 20 to a cell and throwing in baloney sandwiches and one roll of TP per day. Welcome to Hell boys.

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Outstanding!

Newsmax reports:

BALTIMORE (AP) Baltimore's top prosecutor announced criminal charges Friday against all six officers suspended after a man suffered a fatal spinal injury in police custody, saying "no one is above the law."
State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby declared that Freddie Gray's death was a homicide, his arrest was illegal, and his treatment in custody amounted to murder and manslaughter.

"Ain't nothing said, cause Freddie's dead."

GB54;842489361 said:

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"Ain't nothing said, cause Freddie's dead."

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