dajo9;842637065 said:

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Tre Watson = Leader

Looking forward to 1,000+ yards from him behind Brandon Jones' bullrushing OLine next year.

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Tre Watson = also talented and unselfish ... as it once was.

As recently as Jan 13th, Dykes was saying in interviews he expected no staff changes. So if this has been brewing all along (and certainly on Insider, these rumors were known and discussed for a while), seems odd Dykes would say this repeatedly since the end of the season.

RighteousGoldenBear;842637058 said:

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He may be a good one, but his one year at KU was a disaster...offensive production was terrible...lost every game last year and it wasn't even close. IDK....would like to see him do more as an OC before we take him back.

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You may be absolutely right RGB, however we'd have to look at the talent base he inherited vs his planned offensive strategy and determine if they fit. The first year here by coach Dykes didn't go exactly well for us either.

MoragaBear;842637086 said:

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To be fair, Likens walked into maybe one of the worst roster situations in decades at KU.

Saw an article on how their roster was decimated the last few years and it was somehow even worse than what Dykes inherited.

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Any insight into who they may be looking at?

MoragaBear;842637086 said:

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To be fair, Likens walked into maybe one of the worst roster situations in decades at KU.

Saw an article on how their roster was decimated the last few years and it was somehow even worse than what Dykes inherited.

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Hence that ruff start

68great;842637020 said:

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Agree. Those were my initial feelings. My only question is whether Sonny or Tony is responsible for the offensive fire power at Cal.
Everywhere Sonny has gone he has had great offensive production (lots of yards and lots of scoring) he also has brought out the best his QB's (regardless whether the were a Jared Goff or QB with lesser talent). Was that Sonny's doing or Tony's doing?

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Well Foles was Sonny's QB when he was OC at UofA. He turned out okay.

Looperbear;842637006 said:

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I actually think this is good news. TF was not a good OC. He runs a simple HS offense (Campolindo's offense has elements of more sophistication than TF's). I don't think his offense works v. good teams. Hate that we don't use FB, TE or throw to the backs.

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I feel the same way about Franklin's offense. Running the same seven plays out of two formations is not only easy to scheme against...but so BORING to watch!! ....let's get back to a real offense with some depth in terms of scheme, formation, play-calling, etc.

Boring hmm ok

Mc morris is a Fb

Yeah, one thing I can say about Cal the last two years is I was almost never bored. Frustrated, elated, horrified, ecstatic..... those all apply. But bored? Nope.

Has there been any more reaction from players or recruits on twitter and other social media?

So, any other names out there???? Guesses?

MoragaBear;842637086 said:

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To be fair, Likens walked into maybe one of the worst roster situations in decades at KU.

Saw an article on how their roster was decimated the last few years and it was somehow even worse than what Dykes inherited.

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MB, do you have a guess as to when a new person may be announced?

Were commits informed during this latest round of home visits?

MoragaBear;842637086 said:

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To be fair, Likens walked into maybe one of the worst roster situations in decades at KU.

Saw an article on how their roster was decimated the last few years and it was somehow even worse than what Dykes inherited.

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It was bad. KU was using practice players in multiple spots and got steamrolled in every game including at home against FCS South Dakota State, who led 31-7 at halftime. Hard to assess Likens based on that.

I too wonder why Dykes said "no coaching turnover" so recently....

going4roses;842637062 said:

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Well, the 11 on the field isn't *all* that matters, but I like his attitude.

Juuust great!

Now what the hell am I supposed to do with my 1,000 unsold TFS DVD's I had to buy as part of the package to land him in 2012?!?

510Bear;842637109 said:

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I too wonder why Dykes said "no coaching turnover" so recently....

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To be fair, he said "should be" no coaching turnover...not "will be" no.

If the speculation is right that Dykes forced him out, I hope he's not underestimating Franklin's value in spite of the vertical sets and simple playbook (which can be a good thing.) I disagree with those who say Dykes' offense at Arizona (without Franklin) was better than at Cal (with Franklin). I'd like to see a statistical comparison, but don't have time to do that right now.

CalGrad95;842637113 said:

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Juuust great!

Now what the hell am I supposed to do with my 1,000 unsold TFS DVD's I had to buy as part of the package to land him in 2012?!?

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Melt them down into a statue of a lineman in the vertical set.

Calcoholic;842637119 said:

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1)If the speculation is right that Dykes forced him out, I hope he's not underestimating Franklin's value in spite of the vertical sets and simple playbook (which can be a good thing.)

2)I disagree with those who say Dykes' offense at Arizona (without Franklin) was better than at Cal (with Franklin). I'd like to see a statistical comparison, but don't have time to do that right now.

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1) speculation is ... speculation, and not worth the bandwidth it was sent on.
2) apples and brussel sprouts ... see 1) ... totally different times and circumstances.

It is nice to see the players being positive but of course they are literally wrong. The person in charge matters immensely.

No they are speaking on what they control

rjgoode;842637092 said:

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I feel the same way about Franklin's offense. Running the same seven plays out of two formations is not only easy to scheme against...but so BORING to watch!! ....let's get back to a real offense with some depth in terms of scheme, formation, play-calling, etc.

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I agree with you completely. Yes, in a way, it was "boring." I know a number of Cal fans who feel the same way.

Are you blind 3 yrs with 12k+yds and 96 tds

Boring how?

Middle Tennessee? Not even the edges of Tennessee, which really are the best parts.

If Dykes wins, I'll forget Franklin by mid season. Actually, I've already forgotten Franklin

510Bear;842637109 said:

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It was bad. KU was using practice players in multiple spots and got steamrolled in every game including at home against FCS South Dakota State, who led 31-7 at halftime. Hard to assess Likens based on that.

I too wonder why Dykes said "no coaching turnover" so recently....

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The KU job was/still is a nightmare -- especially given the style of play & schemes used in the Big XII. There are a ton of inherent disadvantages to that program, and coupled with the way it was managed over the past decade, there's really not much that anyone could do to make things look less ugly from a scoreboard perspective.

Still, Likens is an excellent coach, I feel like he would definitely be someone that could step in. He has knowledge of the school / program / most of the players.

killa22;842637154 said:

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The KU job was/still is a nightmare -- especially given the style of play & schemes used in the Big XII. There are a ton of inherent disadvantages to that program, and coupled with the way it was managed over the past decade, there's really not much that anyone could do to make things look less ugly from a scoreboard perspective.

Still, Likens is an excellent coach, I feel like he would definitely be someone that could step in. He has knowledge of the school / program / most of the players.

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yeah ... but what happens to Likens best bud Yenser who followed him there?

killa22;842637154 said:

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The KU job was/still is a nightmare -- especially given the style of play & schemes used in the Big XII. There are a ton of inherent disadvantages to that program, and coupled with the way it was managed over the past decade, there's really not much that anyone could do to make things look less ugly from a scoreboard perspective.

Still, Likens is an excellent coach, I feel like he would definitely be someone that could step in. He has knowledge of the school / program / most of the players.

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i think he was a good WR coach. how has he done @ Kansas? or has it been such a dumpster fire that it obscures any competency on the staff, if it exists?

Maybe the title of this thread should be "Cal and Dykes grow up".

rjgoode;842637092 said:

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I feel the same way about Franklin's offense. Running the same seven plays out of two formations is not only easy to scheme against...but so BORING to watch!! ....let's get back to a real offense with some depth in terms of scheme, formation, play-calling, etc.

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Easy to scheme against if you're a good team. Case in point: our results of late against USC, UCLA, furd and Oregon.

beeasyed;842637165 said:

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i think he was a good WR coach. how has he done @ Kansas? or has it been such a dumpster fire that it obscures any competency on the staff, if it exists?

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KU is basically a bad FCS team playing in a BCS conference. Not really much can be done in a 1 year period to fix anything.

510Bear;842637168 said:

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Easy to scheme against if you're a good team. Case in point: our results of late against USC, UCLA, furd and Oregon.

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And Goff was garbage cause he never beat those teams

killa22;842637173 said:

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KU is basically a bad FCS team playing in a BCS conference. Not really much can be done in a 1 year period to fix anything.

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Clearly ... You don't fix issues that require rebuilding jobs over night especially on the cheap hmmmm