BearMDJD said:

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Dickson was from Texas.

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Never mind.

Watching freshman Clemson QB and WR shows why it is a joke that NCAA/NFL restrict draft to third year players.

I wonder if that will get challenged again..

Anarchistbear said:

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Wait until the Bama fans find out their cars have all been broken into in the Levi parking lot.

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are they serving in-and-out burgers in the parking lot?

Lawrence may be good, but his WRs are ridiculous in this game and making him look all world.

how did Clemson get this good?

HoopDreams said:

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how did Clemson get this good?

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How did either of these teams get so good.
Probably a lot of shady dealings going on.
And money...er sorry commitment to winning.

Can't let this pass: Why did Bama, mid-way through the 3rd quarter, go for it on 4th and 4, when they were down by 21. A field goal would bring the deficit to 18, well within three scores, with plenty of time left. Was it hubris, or desperation?

Man, players are slipping all over the turf.

Big C said:

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Can't let this pass: Why did Bama, mid-way through the 3rd quarter, go for it on 4th and 4, when they were down by 21. A field goal would bring the deficit to 18, well within three scores, with plenty of time left. Was it hubris, or desperation?

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Because Saban knew they couldn't stop the Clemson offense. FGs don't help when you're giving up TDs.

That would just mean we couldn't recruit Elk Grove in addition to DLS. Let Tosh rot far far away.

OK, time to turn off the announcing, because the lauding of the coaches for what wonderful human beings they are is just nauseating.

75bear said:

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Lawrence may be good, but his WRs are ridiculous in this game and making him look all world.

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if Cal had that group, Garbers looks like a top 10 QB. Not #1, but anyone looks good with guys who one hand bad passes.

75bear said:

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Big C said:

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Can't let this pass: Why did Bama, mid-way through the 3rd quarter, go for it on 4th and 4, when they were down by 21. A field goal would bring the deficit to 18, well within three scores, with plenty of time left. Was it hubris, or desperation?

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Because Saban knew they couldn't stop the Clemson offense. FGs don't help when you're giving up TDs.

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yup

Classic mink!

The Clemson receivers were ridiculously good. I mean my God.

Yup. WRs over TEs any day. Just go four wide and light dudes up.

Two team league.

Odds To Win 2020 National Championship At Westgate SuperBook
TEAM JAN. 7 ODDS
Clemson Tigers +180
Alabama Crimson Tide +250
Ohio State Buckeyes 12-1
Georgia Bulldogs 12-1
Michigan Wolverines 14-1
Oklahoma Sooners 15-1
Texas Longhorns 20-1
Nebraska Cornhuskers 25-1
Washington Huskies 25-1
Florida Gators 25-1
Notre Dame Fighting Irish 25-1

killa22 said:

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Yup. WRs over TEs any day. Just go four wide and light dudes up.

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There was a time when we had arguably the best wr group in the country.

Unfortunately we had one qb on one ankle and another who couldn't get them the ball

But damn before qb1 got hurt, we sure were exciting that year

okaydo said:

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Check out Alabama's out of conference schedule if you want to see the definition of marshmallow soft...

okaydo said:

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Usc should hire tosh, sark and lane. And then have them battle thru American gladiator to see who gets to be HC

NVBear78 said:

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okaydo said:

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Check out Alabama's out of conference schedule if you want to see the definition of marshmallow soft...

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Alabama's conference schedule is cake, also. They almost never play a true away game against a good team. They play neutral site and home games with an occasional game at a scub teams home stadium. Once in a while they play a real game at a hostile stadium.

They are the Harlem Globetrotters of football.

NVBear78 said:

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okaydo said:

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Check out Alabama's out of conference schedule if you want to see the definition of marshmallow soft...

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That's always been my argument. Alabama only plays 9 power 5 teams a season...and their lone ooc Power 5 game is always a neutral site game in the south.

That, and the mid November cupcake makes them healthy and poised for the postseason.

Yet I think the soft schedule helps more than it hurts.

Meanwhile, Clemson played at Texas A&M and their traditional rival South Carolina this season.

LunchTime said:

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NVBear78 said:

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okaydo said:

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Check out Alabama's out of conference schedule if you want to see the definition of marshmallow soft...

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Alabama's conference schedule is cake, also. They almost never play a true away game against a good team. They play neutral site and home games with an occasional game at a scub teams home stadium. Once in a while they play a real game at a hostile stadium.

They are the Harlem Globetrotters of football.

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Alabama has only played one Ooc regular season road game outside the South under Saban. (2011 At Penn State)

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NVBear78 said:

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okaydo said:

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Check out Alabama's out of conference schedule if you want to see the definition of marshmallow soft...

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Alabama's conference schedule is cake, also. They almost never play a true away game against a good team. They play neutral site and home games with an occasional game at a scub teams home stadium. Once in a while they play a real game at a hostile stadium.

They are the Harlem Globetrotters of football.

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The "Alabama is overrated" argument is really ridiculous. But it does put a fine point on how ridiculously good they've been for almost a decade now. They've raised the bar. Almost no program has ever been as consistently good as they've been.

bluehenbear said:

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HoopDreams said:

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how did Clemson get this good?

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How did either of these teams get so good.
Probably a lot of shady dealings going on.
And money...er sorry commitment to winning.

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That unique and special academic major at Alabama certainly helps--Exercise Science!

How did we ever let Trevor Lawrence and Justyn Ross get away from Cal?

ducky23 said:

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killa22 said:

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Yup. WRs over TEs any day. Just go four wide and light dudes up.

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There was a time when we had arguably the best wr group in the country.

Unfortunately we had one qb on one ankle and another who couldn't get them the ball

But damn before qb1 got hurt, we sure were exciting that year

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QB2 that year:
36 of 56 (64.3%) for 563 yds (10.1 yards per attempt) 5 TDs and 1 INT for a 174.6 QB rating.

Riley got the ball to them just fine. The problem was he tried to run at the end of the OSU game and got benched in favor of the one-ankle QB1.

We had great WR depth jjust 2 years ago:
Demetris Robertson
Chad Hansen
Kanawai Noa
Melquise Stoval
Jordan Duncan
Drew Kobayashi
Zion Echols
Vic Wharton Iii
Jordan Veasy
Logan Gamble
Greyson Bankhead
Brandon Singleton
Jack Austin
Bug Rivera
Ray Hudson
Matt Rockett
Plus more....

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LunchTime said:

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NVBear78 said:

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okaydo said:

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Check out Alabama's out of conference schedule if you want to see the definition of marshmallow soft...

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Alabama's conference schedule is cake, also. They almost never play a true away game against a good team. They play neutral site and home games with an occasional game at a scub teams home stadium. Once in a while they play a real game at a hostile stadium.

They are the Harlem Globetrotters of football.

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The "Alabama is overrated" argument is really ridiculous. But it does put a fine point on how ridiculously good they've been for almost a decade now. They've raised the bar. Almost no program has ever been as consistently good as they've been.

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Agree that they have been a great team through the years with Tina of talent. However we have no idea if that was this year since they played no one out of conference. Their big tests were against 9-3 LSU and Georgia who was beaten badly by Texas. Alabama has no good wins this year - at least, none verifiable.

I do thrinm they are a special team, but at the same time the constant stroking of the SEC means they never have to prove it.

Initial estimate is Niners will lose $12 million from this game.