Sustained caloric deficits will slow your metabolism over time. Many people try to fool their body with designated days where they consume a caloric surplus. Psychologically it helps people too. Easier to stick with something when you never actually have to say goodbye completely to any specific food or activity.

I try to counter the slower metabolism with black coffee in the morning, thermogenics, fasted cardio and CLA supplements.

If you ever hear a high profile actor talking about their getting physically ready for a role by cutting out all sugars, they will tell you the first week they get quite "clinical". The first 1-2 weeks is brutal, but your body adapts.

510 Bear said:

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...he's spending every free minute training intensely in the deadly martial art of Krav Maga....

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If he switches to Jeet Kune Do his offense will improve.

You've played out that gif like 100x over

burritos said:

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Apologies if it sounded like I was promoting a fat shaming agenda. Not my intent.

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I should say: nor I. If someone is fat and happy with their life, that's fine. I'm not here to try to make anyone do something they don't want to do.

I do have a problem with claims that calorie-counting is pointless and that "set points" for body weight mean that you'll never be able to keep it off. That stuff just isn't true, for the vast majority of people. If you want to lose weight and keep it off, it's definitely possible. Not easy or without sacrifices, but possible.

We shouldn't shame, but we shouldn't be ambivalent about the ramifications of obesity.

This "body-positive" nonsense is placating destructive behavior and health realities. Nobody looks out for "shaming" smokers. It's bad for you and it can kill you. Nobody has to tap dance around it.

This is coming from somebody who finds all sorts of shapes and sizes sexually attractive. It's not about what looks good.

GBear4Life said:

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We shouldn't shame, but we shouldn't be ambivalent about the ramifications of obesity.

This "body-positive" nonsense is placating destructive behavior and health realities. Nobody looks out for "shaming" smokers. It's bad for you and it can kill you. Nobody has to tap dance around it.

This is coming from somebody who finds all sorts of shapes and sizes sexually attractive. It's not about what looks good.

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Took some time, but there is finally an issue on which GBear and I are 100% in alignment.

This article lays it out pretty well:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jan/05/truth-obesity-five-fat-myths-debunked

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This bad boy came in the mail early this week.

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GBear4Life said:

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You've played out that gif like 100x over

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Haven't you figured out the Ignore function yet?

Ignore function is for sissies

GBear4Life said:

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Ignore function is for sissies

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Snowflakes

The intermittent fasting could explain the tongue gif

oski003 said:

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The intermittent fasting could explain the tongue gif

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When you watch IF youtubers they do swallow their saliva a lot.

GBear4Life said:

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Ignore function is for sissies

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I don't know how to use it.

bearister said:

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GBear4Life said:

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Ignore function is for sissies

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I don't know how to use it.

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I've never bothered to try. If I don't care to read a post, I won't. But you're one of my favorite posters so it'd be silly to anyways.

I have found no correlation between IF youtubers and lick-lipping (an act which I think suggests dry lips?)

For JW, I think it's almost like a facial spasm

GBear4Life said:

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I have found no correlation between IF youtubers and lick-lipping (an act which I think suggests dry lips?)

For JW, I think it's almost like a facial spasm

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I suspect that could be a tell when playing poker.

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GBear4Life said:

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I have found no correlation between IF youtubers and lick-lipping (an act which I think suggests dry lips?)

For JW, I think it's almost like a facial spasm

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I suspect that could be a tell when playing poker.

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I don't think so. It aint like how ya eat an oreo after looking at the turn card.

I just wanted to mention Wilcox be lookin thinner and thinner each week. Maybe it be suggestive of a Jack Dorsey=type IF one-meal-per-day diet/eating disorder.

GBear4Life said:

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I just wanted to mention Wilcox be lookin thinner and thinner each week. Maybe it be suggestive of a Jack Dorsey=type IF one-meal-per-day diet/eating disorder.

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He looks healthy to me imho.

I'm kind of thinking that all of these posts containing details of body characteristics were intended for the home of the husky and hirsute, cyberbears.com., and ended up here in error.

This question and thread is why Berkeley gets the weirdo rep...that and the over-analysis.

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I'm kind of thinking that all of these posts containing details of body characteristics were intended for the home of the husky and hirsute, cyberbears.com., and ended up here in error.

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That didn't cross my mind until you brought it up.

Proof that Wilcox might be drinking a lot of fluids or not enough.

Saw JW eating breakfast at Rick and Ann's across from the Claremont Hotel Friday morning. No indication he's practicing calorie restriction.

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Saw JW eating breakfast at Rick and Ann's across from the Claremont Hotel Friday morning. No indication he's practicing calorie restriction.

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Could be he's fasting in the evenings.

GoCal80 said:

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Saw JW eating breakfast at Rick and Ann's across from the Claremont Hotel Friday morning. No indication he's practicing calorie restriction.

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It's also possible he fast only on certain days.

GoCal80 said:

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Saw JW eating breakfast at Rick and Ann's across from the Claremont Hotel Friday morning. No indication he's practicing calorie restriction.

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This proves very little. As Sycasey has astutely pointed out, there is very little we really know.

" . . . here's to you ol' Skinny Dennis,
the only one I think I will miss . . . "



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I find it hard to fast during weekends with friends and family. You can do it while you work though. Maybe a few people might get annoyed on a football forum, but no one at work gives a crap if you're eating or not.

GoCal80 said:

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Saw JW eating breakfast at Rick and Ann's across from the Claremont Hotel Friday morning. No indication he's practicing calorie restriction.

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calorie restricting is not the same thing as fasting.

IF basically amounts to skipping breakfast. If you can do that, and avoid late night snacking, you can IF.

It certainly is hard to maintain a caloric deficit on weekends when you're out being social (and drinking)

GBear4Life said:

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IF basically amounts to skipping breakfast. If you can do that, and avoid late night snacking, you can IF.

It certainly is hard to maintain a caloric deficit on weekends when you're out being social (and drinking)

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Yup. And eating less processed carbs(not zero mind you) would be nice too.

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If memory serves, in the old days they called that look, "coy," not to be confused with the fish.