kirklandblue said:

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sycasey said:

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JollyBear said:

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Most likely scenario (IMO) is that Niners play the Seahawks again in two weeks at Levi's...

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I do have a hard time seeing Philly having enough offensive weapons to take advantage of Seattle's defensive weaknesses, but when the Seahawks have to go on the road you don't know what will happen.

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While that win last night was exhilarating for a few moments, I, too, quickly returned to the expected reality of the Niners likely having to face the Seahawks again in two weeks, albeit at home. But no matter - the last glowing ember of Seahawks has to be crushed out for me to relax and until then their reliance on Wilson and crazy luck continues to smolder and threaten. I have to go through this every year.

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If the Niners can get healthy on defense then I like their chances in a rematch.

sycasey said:

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kirklandblue said:

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sycasey said:

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JollyBear said:

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Most likely scenario (IMO) is that Niners play the Seahawks again in two weeks at Levi's...

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I do have a hard time seeing Philly having enough offensive weapons to take advantage of Seattle's defensive weaknesses, but when the Seahawks have to go on the road you don't know what will happen.

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While that win last night was exhilarating for a few moments, I, too, quickly returned to the expected reality of the Niners likely having to face the Seahawks again in two weeks, albeit at home. But no matter - the last glowing ember of Seahawks has to be crushed out for me to relax and until then their reliance on Wilson and crazy luck continues to smolder and threaten. I have to go through this every year.

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If the Niners can get healthy on defense then I like their chances in a rematch.

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It should make for a close entertaining game if the Seahawks don't choke against Philly. But the Seahawks lost 3 of their last 4 games and barely beat the pathetic Panthers, so who knows.

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Beardog26 said:

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So I guess the Niners choked less tonight than the team from Seattle.

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Let's forever put to bed the idea that Carroll is especially good in close games. He's not.

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While I agree they blew it last night, I still think Carroll has a very good track record in close games going all the way back to USC days. Now I'm a big 49er fan and I am really thrilled that the 49ers get a bye. I actually think the bye is more important than the #1 seed for the 49ers right now because, when healthy, the 49ers can win anywhere at any time under any conditions. That is what this year has shown me.

So they will get Ford, Tartt and possibly some others back on D. They won't get JP Jones back but they might even get Alexander back at ILB later in the playoffs. On offense they should get Person back but won't get their starting center back. I can live with that.

But, regardless, I agree with the poster who said that he can't relax until the Seahawks are eliminated completely. However, I will be looking forward to a rematch in Santa Clara.

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While I agree they blew it last night, I still think Carroll has a very good track record in close games going all the way back to USC days.

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So I am probably being too pedantic here, but this claim had me curious, so I decided to go back and look at Carroll's record in close games as a head coach. I am defining a "close game" as one decided by 8 points or fewer (one possession). I know that might not account for every late-game situation where there might have been garbage-time TDs and games that were closer than they looked or whatever, but we're just looking for a broad overview here, so I figure that's okay. I am including postseason games, but not preseason games.

Pete Carroll record in close games, by year

NFL
1994 NYJ: 3-3
1997 NE: 5-4
1998 NE: 5-3
1999 NE: 5-5
2010 SEA: 3-0
2011 SEA: 2-5
2012 SEA: 5-6
2013 SEA: 7-3
2014 SEA: 4-4
2015 SEA: 3-6
2016 SEA: 5-3-1
2017 SEA: 4-6
2018 SEA: 5-7
2019 SEA: 10-2

TOTAL: 66-57-1
(Without 2019, it's 56-55-1)

NCAA (all at USC)
2001: 1-5
2002: 2-2
2003: 0-1 (guess which one!)
2004: 4-0
2005: 2-1
2006: 3-2
2007: 3-2
2008: 1-1
2009: 3-2

TOTAL: 19-16

So mostly he hovers around .500 in close games like everybody else, except for 2019 which is a major outlier.

sycasey said:

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heartofthebear said:

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While I agree they blew it last night, I still think Carroll has a very good track record in close games going all the way back to USC days.

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So I am probably being too pedantic here, but this claim had me curious, so I decided to go back and look at Carroll's record in close games as a head coach. I am defining a "close game" as one decided by 8 points or fewer (one possession). I know that might not account for every late-game situation where there might have been garbage-time TDs and games that were closer than they looked or whatever, but we're just looking for a broad overview here, so I figure that's okay. I am including postseason games, but not preseason games.

Pete Carroll record in close games, by year

NFL
1994 NYJ: 3-3
1997 NE: 5-4
1998 NE: 5-3
1999 NE: 5-5
2010 SEA: 3-0
2011 SEA: 2-5
2012 SEA: 5-6
2013 SEA: 7-3
2014 SEA: 4-4
2015 SEA: 3-6
2016 SEA: 5-3-1
2017 SEA: 4-6
2018 SEA: 5-7
2019 SEA: 10-2

TOTAL: 66-57-1
(Without 2019, it's 56-55-1)

NCAA (all at USC)
2001: 1-5
2002: 2-2
2003: 0-1 (guess which one!)
2004: 4-0
2005: 2-1
2006: 3-2
2007: 3-2
2008: 1-1
2009: 3-2

TOTAL: 19-16

So mostly he hovers around .500 in close games like everybody else, except for 2019 which is a major outlier.

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But but but...
LOL, thanks man for breaking the curse.
Petey got in my head and now I can get him out.
He sure seems to win a lot of close 49er games though.
Woops, now I've done it.

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He sure seems to win a lot of close 49er games though.
Woops, now I've done it.

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Carroll in close games vs. 49ers:

1998 W 24-21
2011 L 17-19
2012 L 6-13
2013 L 17-19
2013 W 23-17 (NFC Championship)
2016 W 25-23
2017 W 12-9
2018 L 23-26 (OT)
2019 W 27-24 (OT)
2019 L 21-26

He is 5-4 overall in close games against SF. 4-4 with the Seahawks. The thing is that they also have a lot of wins that were NOT close, particularly in the post-Harbaugh years, so that may be coloring your perception.

For fun, here's Carroll in close games vs. Cal.

2002 W 30-28
2003 L 31-34 (OT)
2004 W 23-17
2007 W 24-17

4-1 overall. The issue is that our games mostly stopped being close after '04.

They've more than proven during their brutal last stretch of the season that they belong with anybody.
Your comment on them being overrated is totally ridiculous. R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S ! ! !

Once more for the season:

LOL Seahawks. Can't win close games.

kirklandblue said:

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sycasey said:

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JollyBear said:

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Most likely scenario (IMO) is that Niners play the Seahawks again in two weeks at Levi's...

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I do have a hard time seeing Philly having enough offensive weapons to take advantage of Seattle's defensive weaknesses, but when the Seahawks have to go on the road you don't know what will happen.

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While that win last night was exhilarating for a few moments, I, too, quickly returned to the expected reality of the Niners likely having to face the Seahawks again in two weeks, albeit at home. But no matter - the last glowing ember of Seahawks has to be crushed out for me to relax and until then their reliance on Wilson and crazy luck continues to smolder and threaten. I have to go through this every year.

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(Deep breath- exhale)... Wow, it's never easy, but the Seadogs are finally dead again for another year. Now I can relax and enjoy a cold beverage. No more Pete/Wilson/lucky breaks for this year! Now go Niners, but if AR can pull it out that's OK too in the overall scheme.

Lucky breaks. Cute. Good luck with Jimmy G string. You'll need it.

GRRAAH said:

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Lucky breaks. Cute. Good luck with Jimmy G string. You'll need it.

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Would you like to make a wager on the game straight up?

GRRAAH said:

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Lucky breaks. Cute. Good luck with Jimmy G string. You'll need it.

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The 49ers have proven that they can win games with a strong performance from Jimmy G, or just an average one. Thank your lucky stars you have Wilson, cuz without him, your team would have been tits up and taking on water by mid-season.
BTW, your attempts at tRump-like nickname humor is really lame.