We could really use Yogi and his 87 screen personalities in this thread, but he comes up small ...AGAIN.

Nice block by Grant

Ugh. Hard to watch. May only last a half.

No Brown? Did he get called for targeting at WSU, and has to sit out the first half?

Yeah, it's ugly

25% shooting ain't gonna get it done

A completely horrible half of basketball by an incredibly bad Cal team. Is Wyking Jones back coaching our team?

Bears have to keep the turnover and rebound stats in their favor and start scoring to win. This could be worse than -7 right now.

*Does this qualify as the Official Title Bout of the Bottom Dwelling Wankers?

Why is Joel Brown not even on the roster on the ESPN app for this game?

not a single Bear, with the exception of possibly Kelly is having a solid game

fortunately I don't get ESPNU so can't watch this game

Who the Hell gets U?

Free throw shooting is amazingly bad

bearister said:

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Why is Joel Brown not even on the roster on the ESPN app for this game?

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Brown sat out the end of the WSU game too, even when we were still trying. I think he got hurt.

sonofabear51 said:

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Free throw shooting is amazingly bad

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We finally got back to 50%. 8-16. sigh. The shock is that Kelly is 4-5 and Bradley is 2-5.

We are also shooting 30% from the field.

I don't think Cal gets to 60 points tonight. Hope I am wrong.

I sound like a broken record but this team can't shoot/score. We are shooting 23%. The looks aren't bad. Grant is 4-15. Matt is having an off night. 3-15. We aren't getting Kelly any touches.

Agreed. Offense is totally listless. Almost like sleepwalking thru it.

After our two games this week, there is no longer any doubt that we are by far the worst team in the Pac-12. Other than Bradley, we just have no talent on this team, and when he has an off night (like tonight), we don't stand a chance. Oh, how low Cal basketball has fallen.

Wow, it just seems every newcomer this year has been a major disappointment. Bradley is trying to do too much and it's showing, he needs help but he also needs to make better court decisions. Anticevich might as well not be on the floor if he can't hit open shots. He missed 11 shots against Washington, most of them open. As for the newcomers, Hyder just isn't all that good. He can't really shoot or score at the rim, so he's another version of Joel Brown.

Betley came to Cal as an apparent shooter but he's hit 32 percent of his threes. And he can't create his own shot, so he can only score in a spot-up situation. He's shot 27 percent from the 3-point line since conference play began. He tailed off considerably and was supposed to really help this team.

Foreman has been OK at times but he can't score if he doesn't shoot threes. He doesn't have any ability to attack the rim. So the conference teams scouted him and he's become ineffective when he doesn't get open for threes.

Celestine has been one of the few bright spots. He's going to be a starter, maybe next year and he's got the ability to score and defend. Don't know why Fox didn't play him earlier more minutes.

Bowser can't get on the floor and his freshman season has basically been a wash. He's played 98 minutes this season, doesn't seem sure of himself or ready to contribute at this level. The best you could hope for is he takes a big step forward this summer and turns into a decent reserve.

Hard to say what to expect from the recruiting class next year because we have no idea how they will adjust to college ball. Bowser was ranked much higher as a prospect than Celestine, and we see how that turned out.

The hope is Bradley doesn't transfer or try to enter the draft, Fox is able to get a couple of transfers who can actually help and the returners take a step forward with a good offseason. But it's been a frustrating season to say the least. Not sure if the program made any progress.

KGO post game - Fox said Brown's was injured so they elected to sit him. Said Bradley was still sick and missed practices because they were waiting for covid test results for him

Fox sounded a little shell shocked in the interview. I'm sure he's feeling the heat as this season is clearly a step back, and that game was probably the worst he's had at Cal

...but other than that, we're competitive.

Fox can't recruit, hasn't proven to be able to develop players. Just a bad fit. No reason to think the team will be any better next year. Knowlton should just acknowledge he made a bad hire and move on from Fox

HoopDreams said:

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KGO post game - Fox said Brown's was injured so they elected to sit him. Said Bradley was still sick and missed practices because they were waiting for covid test results for him

Fox sounded a little shell shocked in the interview. I'm sure he's feeling the heat as this season is clearly a step back, and that game was probably the worst he's had at Cal

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It's not just the offense. The defense which is his speciality has been really bad esp at the Palouse.

DavisBear said:

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Fox can't recruit, hasn't proven to be able to develop players. Just a bad fit. No reason to think the team will be any better next year. Knowlton should just acknowledge he made a bad hire and move on from Fox

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Knowlton racing to hire Fox was just amateurish.

Cal scores 51 points in both Washington games

our offense is the problem

but perhaps our defense is the bigger problem

I watched every minute of the last two games and either the players are not listening or the coaches are not able to teach the basics.
Do not pass into the paint when your target is double or triple covered.
Do not dribble into the key against three defenders.
Take 30+ seconds if necessary to try to find a decent percentage shot. The number of garbage, early in the clock shots is inexcusable. And the misses are frequently WAY off target.
Figure out a way to inbound the ball from under your own basket without heaving it to half court.
The execution and common sense have regressed dramatically since last year.

Tonight's game was rough, and the week was brutal for Cal. But I thought tonight's problem was mostly about an off shooting night. This game was there for Cal to win had we shot the ball decently. Hard to blame the coach for that.

I've been hard on Hyder, so I want to acknowledge he made a few quality plays in H2 tonight, and also a nice defensive play on Green in H1.

It was weird to see UW play a lot of man defense. It was also weird to see Matt Bradley shoot so poorly (no correlation). That was like Superman-kryptonite or Tyson-Douglas.

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I watched every minute of the last two games and either the players are not listening or the coaches are not able to teach the basics.
Do not pass into the paint when your target is double or triple covered.
Do not dribble into the key against three defenders.
Take 30+ seconds if necessary to try to find a decent percentage shot. The number of garbage, early in the clock shots is inexcusable. And the misses are frequently WAY off target.
Figure out a way to inbound the ball from under your own basket without heaving it to half court.
The execution and common sense have regressed dramatically since last year.

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I watched zero minutes of the last two games, despite having watched and enjoyed the victory against Colorado. At least I was not available to watch on Thursday. Tonight I just chose to not remember that there was a game. Now, I realize nobody gives a crap if I watch a Cal game or not. Just saying: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ...

The only good thing I can think of about Cal Basketball this weekend is that we won't have to read Bear Insider posts claiming that Fox is actually a really good coach (he's so-so) or that anybody on the roster besides Bradley is really good just because they had 1-2 good games.

And that's not even that good, obviously, because I would actually prefer that we won more, even if it meant reading senseless hype. I am rooting for us to win, going forward (and backwards, if possible). If Fox can get things turned around, more power to him. We'll see how the program fares over the next 12-13 months.

drizzlybear said:

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Tonight's game was rough, and the week was brutal for Cal. But I thought tonight's problem was mostly about an off shooting night. This game was there for Cal to win had we shot the ball decently. Hard to blame the coach for that.

I've been hard on Hyder, so I want to acknowledge he made a few quality plays in H2 tonight, and also a nice defensive play on Green in H1.

It was weird to see UW play a lot of man defense. It was also weird to see Matt Bradley shoot so poorly (no correlation). That was like Superman-kryptonite or Tyson-Douglas.

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Evidently, Bradley was sick...and throwing up during the game.

Big C said:

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LateHit said:

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I watched every minute of the last two games and either the players are not listening or the coaches are not able to teach the basics.
Do not pass into the paint when your target is double or triple covered.
Do not dribble into the key against three defenders.
Take 30+ seconds if necessary to try to find a decent percentage shot. The number of garbage, early in the clock shots is inexcusable. And the misses are frequently WAY off target.
Figure out a way to inbound the ball from under your own basket without heaving it to half court.
The execution and common sense have regressed dramatically since last year.

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I watched zero minutes of the last two games, despite having watched and enjoyed the victory against Colorado. At least I was not available to watch on Thursday. Tonight I just chose to not remember that there was a game. Now, I realize nobody gives a crap if I watch a Cal game or not. Just saying: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ...

The only good thing I can think of about Cal Basketball this weekend is that we won't have to read Bear Insider posts claiming that Fox is actually a really good coach (he's so-so) or that anybody on the roster besides Bradley is really good just because they had 1-2 good games.

And that's not even that good, obviously, because I would actually prefer that we won more, even if it meant reading senseless hype. I am rooting for us to win, going forward (and backwards, if possible). If Fox can get things turned around, more power to him. We'll see how the program fares over the next 12-13 months.

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I don't see anyone claiming Fox is a really good coach. I think the most support you see is that it's premature to conclude he's incapable of elevating the program to a level of stability and quality basketball.

I also don't think anyone says we have any really good players outside of Bradley.

What I see of the optimists on BI is basically what you're saying; i.e., "we'll see how the program fares over the next 12-13 months." I guess the only difference is that some of us haven't given up watching, and aren't basing our opinions on games we haven't seen.

Joined Oregon State PureOrange on facebook. They want to fire Tinkle because they are tired of finishing in the middle of the Pac. We would kill for middle of thePac.