Anyone else at the games? My first tourney game. Crowd is half interested. Weird vibes.

while I was reading the article about Vanover, I noticed the article about Bradley:

https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/matt-bradley-ncaa-nightmare

HoopDreams said:

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while I was reading the article about Vanover, I noticed the article about Bradley:

https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/matt-bradley-ncaa-nightmare

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The Curse of Oski is formidable.

St Peters is fun to watch. Holloway is doing a-great job.

oskidunker said:

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St Peters is fun to watch. Holloway is doing a-great job.

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Maybe there's a 1% chance that he always regretted not coming here as a player and . . .

I said St Peter's run will end because St Peter's undersized bigs would not match up with UNC's bigs

at the half:

St Peter's bigs: 6 pts (3-10), 8 rebounds

UNC bigs: 20 pts (8-16), 19 rebounds

HoopDreams said:

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I said St Peter's run will end because St Peter's undersized bigs would not match up with UNC's bigs

at the half:

St Peter's bigs: 6 pts (3-10), 8 rebounds

UNC bigs: 20 pts (8-16), 19 rebounds

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Like Mose Allison, you are a sage.



"Uh... we'd like to carry on now, and play a song originally recorded by Mose Allison, who's really a jazz musician, and I did read something on one of his record covers which said he was a "jazz sage." And, uh, quite what that means, I don't know, but, uh." Pete Townshend

bearister said:

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HoopDreams said:

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I said St Peter's run will end because St Peter's undersized bigs would not match up with UNC's bigs

at the half:

St Peter's bigs: 6 pts (3-10), 8 rebounds

UNC bigs: 20 pts (8-16), 19 rebounds

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Like Mose Allison, you are a sage.



"Uh... we'd like to carry on now, and play a song originally recorded by Mose Allison, who's really a jazz musician, and I did read something on one of his record covers which said he was a "jazz sage." And, uh, quite what that means, I don't know, but, uh." Pete Townshend

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Ah, season's almost over. Time to relax. Here's a little Mose as Son #7 for you:

Final Four of Villanova, Kansas, Duke, North Carolina.

Not a lot of underdog, cinderella, fist timers this season.

I check list of most visits to final four. UNC, Kansas and Duke are 3 of the top 5 (UCLA and Kentucky the others). For 'Nova this is their 6th final four (alongside Arkansas, Cincinnati, Houston, Michigan**, Oklahoma State, Syracuse).

**Two visits vacated for cheating.

Among P12 teams:

18 - UCLA (one visit vacated)
4 - UofA, Utah
3 - Cal
2 - Colorado, Oregon, OSU, Stanfurd, USC
1 - UW,WSU
Never - ASU

bearister said:

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"How fascinating would it be to see Vanover match up against Gonzaga's 7-1 freshman sensation Chet Holmgren?"

Holmgren would eat "The One that Got Away's" breakfast, lunch and dinner ….and then dip his pigtails in the inkwell.

Cal Basketball: Connor Vanover Unlikely to Play for Arkansas on Thursday at the Sweet 16 | Sports Illustrated Cal Bears News, Analysis and More


https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/vanover-at-sweet-16

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yes he sure would Bearister. Also take his snack money.

Holmgren was the top rated recruit in his class, and looks like it. Disturbingly skilled for his size, though he needs another year of college ball to gain some good weight. Vanover was a 3 star project, and apparently still is a project.

My son said he ain't no Durant (yeah, I know, duh) and he thinks he will get abused in the paint in the NBA.

Skinny is his genetic map. He would have to windmill roids and hose down shakes. You will never fundamentally change him.

If we learned anything from Ivan Rabb's journey it is that if Holmgren is overvalued now, he should go for the brass ring and the gold krugerrands while they are still on the table. If he stays another year and doesn't show well (like Rabb did), it could cost him millions….or worse, he gets hurt.

bearister said:

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My son said he ain't no Durant (yeah, I know, duh) and he thinks he will get abused in the paint in the NBA.

Skinny is his genetic map. He would have to windmill roids and hose down shakes. You will never fundamentally change him.

If we learned anything from Ivan Rabb's journey it is that if Holmgren is overvalued now, he should go for the brass ring and the gold krugerrands while they are still on the table. If he stays another year and doesn't show well (like Rabb did), it could cost him millions….or worse, he gets hurt.

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Agreed. His value is at its peak right now.

Kenny Smith was being charitable saying that he is glad his alma mater won but also happy that the blame for losing can't be hung on anyone at Duke. WRONG!
Whoever was part of the 12 for 20 from the FT line owns the loss. Missing that many FT in a game of that importance is a major, major

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Kenny Smith was being charitable saying that he is glad his alma mater won but also happy that the blame for losing can't be hung on anyone at Duke. WRONG!
Whoever was part of the 12 for 20 from the FT line owns the loss. Missing that many FT in a game of that importance is a major, major

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Refs tried to give it to them with the early bonus in the second half, too.

Frankie Ferrari went to USF. He then transferred to a JC..Word was that he wanted to come to Cal as a fifth year senior but Cuonzo (or Wyking) didn't want him. So, he transferred back to USF. Dead ringer for Lee Harvey Oswald..my roommate at GW knew Oswald in New Orleans. Commie jerk!!!!!

Brain says Kansas, heart wants NC.

Glad I dont have to look at coach K wrinkling his nose anymore. MaybeDuke will get less tv time.

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bearister said:

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"How fascinating would it be to see Vanover match up against Gonzaga's 7-1 freshman sensation Chet Holmgren?"

Holmgren would eat "The One that Got Away's" breakfast, lunch and dinner ….and then dip his pigtails in the inkwell.

Cal Basketball: Connor Vanover Unlikely to Play for Arkansas on Thursday at the Sweet 16 | Sports Illustrated Cal Bears News, Analysis and More


https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/vanover-at-sweet-16

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yes he sure would Bearister. Also take his snack money.

Holmgren was the top rated recruit in his class, and looks like it. Disturbingly skilled for his size, though he needs another year of college ball to gain some good weight. Vanover was a 3 star project, and apparently still is a project.

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Or he could get paid millions of dollars next year and train/eat on an NBA team's dime.

wifeisafurd said:

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Brain says Kansas, heart wants NC.

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Until UNC's center sprained his ankle, I would have picked UNC because of Love

Now I'm not sure

but I hate both teams, so what ever

Big C said:

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Some will disagree, but I would root for UCLA over Kansas or Carolina (or Kentucky). Now, replace UCLA with Arizona and I'm not so sure, especially the past several years.

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Agree. Its a real shame they did nothing to Arizona. The whole system is corrupt. Plus who in their right mind could justify hiring the donut man . We will never make the ncaa tournament if we dont pay the players.

HoopDreams said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Brain says Kansas, heart wants NC.

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Until UNC's center sprained his ankle, I would have picked UNC because of Love

Now I'm not sure

but I hate both teams, so what ever

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When I hate on a team, I hate on the team's fans even more. At least the team has some skills.

Charlie Moore solid in the Tourney. Haven't seen any blame directed at Mark Fox for his departure. Inconceivable.

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Charlie Moore solid in the Tourney. Haven't seen any blame directed at Mark Fox for his departure. Inconceivable.

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Charlie was at Cal 2016-2017 so he bailed after playing for Cuonzo but before Wyking came. The stated reason for leaving was to be closer to home (Chicago) because his father suffered a stroke.

Big C said:

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Some will disagree, but I would root for UCLA over Kansas or Carolina (or Kentucky). Now, replace UCLA with Arizona and I'm not so sure, especially the past several years.

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I grew up rooting for UCLA and have a ton of friends that went there, so I have zero problem rooting for them In games that do not involve Cal (ie the NCAA Tournament). My support for Arizona is much more tepid, basically PAC-12 and West Coast solidarity.

It is interesting the number of people who condemn Arizona and the fact they escaped sanctions but think hiring Pasternak is okay citing the fact that he evaded sanctions.

However, if Pasternak is the only guy who can get the big donors to make a change, then so be it.

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Big C said:

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Some will disagree, but I would root for UCLA over Kansas or Carolina (or Kentucky). Now, replace UCLA with Arizona and I'm not so sure, especially the past several years.

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I grew up rooting for UCLA and have a ton of friends that went there, so I have zero problem rooting for them In games that do not involve Cal (ie the NCAA Tournament). My support for Arizona is much more tepid, basically PAC-12 and West Coast solidarity.

It is interesting the number of people who condemn Arizona and the fact they escaped sanctions but think hiring Pasternak is okay citing the fact that he evaded sanctions.

However, if Pasternak is the only guy who can get the big donors to make a change, then so be it.

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Yeah, I was a kid during The Walton Years, when I first started to love basketball. My only two problems with UCLA were... a) I went to Cal and... b) I couldn't stand it during the decades following Wooden when they were getting Mickey Ds left and right, but couldn't win commensurate with their talent because they were soft and selfish.