Perhaps covered before but given the significant disparity betw BB talent @ Cal and top teams, anyone have info as to how difficult it is to get into say Duke or Michigan; their academics highly rated but assume they have more flexibility in who they can accept and/or their success simply attracts the best?
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Last: 2 yr ago by annarborbear
What about UVA, an elite public school with a recent National Championship
Duke, UCLA, Purdue, Texas, North Carolina, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Norte Dame, Virginia, Northwestern…..
Harvard, Princeton and Stanford have had good teams…
Shoot, just 6 years ago the #1 public university in the world was a 4 seed and ranked.
Harvard, Princeton and Stanford have had good teams…
Shoot, just 6 years ago the #1 public university in the world was a 4 seed and ranked.
Aside from Stanford and perhaps Duke don't know whether the other listed schools have equally tough admission standards and/or more flexibility....
in our better years we had 1-2 exceptional talents [Kidd, J Brown, for ex] but rarely if ever the ## of talented players on Duke and the rest...
no intention to minimize the coaching problem here...
in our better years we had 1-2 exceptional talents [Kidd, J Brown, for ex] but rarely if ever the ## of talented players on Duke and the rest...
no intention to minimize the coaching problem here...
We don't have to look any further than UCLA.
Of course UCLA's pedigree gets them more interest from recruits, but it should be about as tough to get into UCLA as Cal given they both follow University of California admissions guidelines.
UCLA has always been the example I use, stating my opinion that our admission standards should not be higher than UCLA (which they are) ... the counter point is UCLA basketball team had the lowest APR in the Pac12dimitrig said:
We don't have to look any further than UCLA.
Of course UCLA's pedigree gets them more interest from recruits, but it should be about as tough to get into UCLA as Cal given they both follow University of California admissions guidelines.
HoopDreams said:UCLA has always been the example I use, stating my opinion that our admission standards should not be higher than UCLA (which they are) ... the counter point is UCLA basketball team had the lowest APR in the Pac12dimitrig said:
We don't have to look any further than UCLA.
Of course UCLA's pedigree gets them more interest from recruits, but it should be about as tough to get into UCLA as Cal given they both follow University of California admissions guidelines.
The one I'm curious about is our standard for transfers.
We had been taking Ivy League grads as grad transfers, which implies a high standard. But what about the portal?
Hyder was/is an excellent student coming out of HS as I remember, but went to Fresno State as his best basketball offer, which again implies a high standard. What about Street and Shepherd?
I wonder what the criteria are? In this day and age, the coach needs to have a lot of flexibility to bring in transfers. I don't think their HS numbers should matter, just a minimum GPA at their current school and the coach's judgement that they can succeed at Cal.
calumnus said:HoopDreams said:UCLA has always been the example I use, stating my opinion that our admission standards should not be higher than UCLA (which they are) ... the counter point is UCLA basketball team had the lowest APR in the Pac12dimitrig said:
We don't have to look any further than UCLA.
Of course UCLA's pedigree gets them more interest from recruits, but it should be about as tough to get into UCLA as Cal given they both follow University of California admissions guidelines.
The one I'm curious about is our standard for transfers.
We had been taking Ivy League grads as grad transfers, which implies a high standard. But what about the portal?
Hyder was/is an excellent student coming out of HS as I remember, but went to Fresno State as his best basketball offer, which again implies a high standard. What about Street and Shepherd?
I wonder what the criteria are? In this day and age, the coach needs to have a lot of flexibility to bring in transfers. I don't think their HS numbers should matter, just a minimum GPA at their current school and the coach's judgement that they can succeed at Cal.
The Ivy League guys were before you could grad transfer into a school's graduate "certificate program", which is a boon for us, in terms of being able to take guys. I think all you need is a diploma from your previous college. This new angle is only a couple of years old.
Street was a really good student, wherever he was at (in Texas?). I think he was in the Masters of Public Health program. I would guess he'll go on to med school. Dunno about Shepherd.
We would still be served with an addition of 2-3 varied masters programs that would appeal to athletes. Sports Management, ran through, or at least blessed by, Haas School of Business would be the obvious one.
Big C said:calumnus said:HoopDreams said:UCLA has always been the example I use, stating my opinion that our admission standards should not be higher than UCLA (which they are) ... the counter point is UCLA basketball team had the lowest APR in the Pac12dimitrig said:
We don't have to look any further than UCLA.
Of course UCLA's pedigree gets them more interest from recruits, but it should be about as tough to get into UCLA as Cal given they both follow University of California admissions guidelines.
The one I'm curious about is our standard for transfers.
We had been taking Ivy League grads as grad transfers, which implies a high standard. But what about the portal?
Hyder was/is an excellent student coming out of HS as I remember, but went to Fresno State as his best basketball offer, which again implies a high standard. What about Street and Shepherd?
I wonder what the criteria are? In this day and age, the coach needs to have a lot of flexibility to bring in transfers. I don't think their HS numbers should matter, just a minimum GPA at their current school and the coach's judgement that they can succeed at Cal.
The Ivy League guys were before you could grad transfer into a school's graduate "certificate program", which is a boon for us, in terms of being able to take guys. I think all you need is a diploma from your previous college. This new angle is only a couple of years old.
Street was a really good student, wherever he was at (in Texas?). I think he was in the Masters of Public Health program. I would guess he'll go on to med school. Dunno about Shepherd.
We would still be served with an addition of 2-3 varied masters programs that would appeal to athletes. Sports Management, ran through, or at least blessed by, Haas School of Business would be the obvious one.
Graduate transfers are no longer a big deal. 5th year guys that want a certificate instead of making money, even overseas, are not going to elevate the program.
The Transfer Portal and immediate eligibility for undergrad transfers has transformed college basketball and football.* That is my question, what are the requirements for undergrad transfers to Cal?
*NIL is next, especially when combined with the Transfer Portal. The Portal is public, especially when combined with the fan websites, so boosters can make pitches to prospective players the coach is interested in. It is basically unrestricted free agency. .
I read somewhere that one school has a NIL and Social Media Marketing one year grad program!Big C said:calumnus said:HoopDreams said:UCLA has always been the example I use, stating my opinion that our admission standards should not be higher than UCLA (which they are) ... the counter point is UCLA basketball team had the lowest APR in the Pac12dimitrig said:
We don't have to look any further than UCLA.
Of course UCLA's pedigree gets them more interest from recruits, but it should be about as tough to get into UCLA as Cal given they both follow University of California admissions guidelines.
The one I'm curious about is our standard for transfers.
We had been taking Ivy League grads as grad transfers, which implies a high standard. But what about the portal?
Hyder was/is an excellent student coming out of HS as I remember, but went to Fresno State as his best basketball offer, which again implies a high standard. What about Street and Shepherd?
I wonder what the criteria are? In this day and age, the coach needs to have a lot of flexibility to bring in transfers. I don't think their HS numbers should matter, just a minimum GPA at their current school and the coach's judgement that they can succeed at Cal.
The Ivy League guys were before you could grad transfer into a school's graduate "certificate program", which is a boon for us, in terms of being able to take guys. I think all you need is a diploma from your previous college. This new angle is only a couple of years old.
Street was a really good student, wherever he was at (in Texas?). I think he was in the Masters of Public Health program. I would guess he'll go on to med school. Dunno about Shepherd.
We would still be served with an addition of 2-3 varied masters programs that would appeal to athletes. Sports Management, ran through, or at least blessed by, Haas School of Business would be the obvious one.
I don't recall Michigan bringing in anybody with really questionable academics, although not everybody was a great student once they were there. They have recruited at least ok by having a place that people recognize as having a solid basketball tradition and a chance to win. Some people also like the availability of a degree program in Kinesiology.
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