SFCityBear said:

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BC Calfan said:

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It's easy to just blame it on NIL. If so, why did Brown commit in the first place and what transpired in such a short period that made him change his mind?

Maybe another school made a bigger $ offer? OK, then he should have committed to that particular school.

We can speculate all we want but the fact is that it's another horrible look for Fox. We are all just looking for a shred of hope with this moribund program. A sign that things might be turning around. We finally got it and it only lasted 3 weeks.

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I don't buy this. Maybe it does not look good for Coach Fox, but when the commitment was made, there were three adults and one young person, likely a minor, in the room. Two of the adults were parents whose advice, and whose word apparently meant little. The young person is not yet mature. likely impressionable, and not yet aware of the fact that in life, a man is only as good as his word. He should have been advised that if he is not sure, then he should wait and let the process play out. The only man in the room who demonstrated some character was coach Fox. He kept his word on the offer of a scholarship. I think it is hard enough to find and evaluate a player, and then try to sell the program and the school to the player, but to try be a mind-reader and evaluate a player, his parents, and maybe his agent as to the value of their word is quite a stretch, IMO.

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Shocky1 said:

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cal's current basketball staff with a combined age of 200 years on planet earth is the oldest 4 person staff in d1 college basketball, this may not bother mark fox or jim knowlton (they both gonna get paid regardless of results or if haas is a cold empty palace again) but in today's fiercely competitive recruiting environment that necessitates daily contact/communications (something that almost all old white men are incapable of fulfilling) in building relationships this is fatal

jaylen brown told me he tried to explain to jim knowlton the importance of a black trusted father figure/life mentor like coach martin but that he didn't think jim understood what the **** he was talking about

if u want more details, the shockster is posting on the rivals site





cal's monster worser class (don't be a dumb azz)#

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eastcoastcal said:

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Do you think Knowlton can limit Fox to 1-2 players? Would be really terrible if Fox fills a class with low level players and handicaps the next hire

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Intuit said:

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Top 150 senior Rodney Brown discusses his de-commitment and reopened recruitment (247sports.com)

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dimitrig said:

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Intuit said:

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Top 150 senior Rodney Brown discusses his de-commitment and reopened recruitment (247sports.com)

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"California-Berkley?"

Is that like "Stanfurd?"

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KoreAmBear said:

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dimitrig said:

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Intuit said:

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Top 150 senior Rodney Brown discusses his de-commitment and reopened recruitment (247sports.com)

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"California-Berkley?"

Is that like "Stanfurd?"

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He "owed it to himself" to go through the process.

Because what he wronged himself by committing so early to Cal? *Smh*

Just say you committed too early, and have second thoughts. No need for the owed an obligation to oneself business. The recruiting process is not some moral/ethical gauntlet.

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Bobodeluxe said:

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dimitrig said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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dimitrig said:

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Intuit said:

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Top 150 senior Rodney Brown discusses his de-commitment and reopened recruitment (247sports.com)

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"California-Berkley?"

Is that like "Stanfurd?"

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He "owed it to himself" to go through the process.

Because what he wronged himself by committing so early to Cal? *Smh*

Just say you committed too early, and have second thoughts. No need for the owed an obligation to oneself business. The recruiting process is not some moral/ethical gauntlet.

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It would be nice if he mentioned something about Cal and where we stand instead of talking about Arizona, which hasn't even expressed interest recently.

Or did I miss where he talked about Cal and Fox?

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He loved Fox, but the lack of fan enthusiasm disturbed him.

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socaltownie said:

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SFCityBear said:

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BC Calfan said:

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It's easy to just blame it on NIL. If so, why did Brown commit in the first place and what transpired in such a short period that made him change his mind?

Maybe another school made a bigger $ offer? OK, then he should have committed to that particular school.

We can speculate all we want but the fact is that it's another horrible look for Fox. We are all just looking for a shred of hope with this moribund program. A sign that things might be turning around. We finally got it and it only lasted 3 weeks.

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I don't buy this. Maybe it does not look good for Coach Fox, but when the commitment was made, there were three adults and one young person, likely a minor, in the room. Two of the adults were parents whose advice, and whose word apparently meant little. The young person is not yet mature. likely impressionable, and not yet aware of the fact that in life, a man is only as good as his word. He should have been advised that if he is not sure, then he should wait and let the process play out. The only man in the room who demonstrated some character was coach Fox. He kept his word on the offer of a scholarship. I think it is hard enough to find and evaluate a player, and then try to sell the program and the school to the player, but to try be a mind-reader and evaluate a player, his parents, and maybe his agent as to the value of their word is quite a stretch, IMO.

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LOL. This is like 30 years behind the time. Simply put the NIL offer came in better. We are in an entirely new world.

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SFCityBear said:

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socaltownie said:

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SFCityBear said:

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BC Calfan said:

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It's easy to just blame it on NIL. If so, why did Brown commit in the first place and what transpired in such a short period that made him change his mind?

Maybe another school made a bigger $ offer? OK, then he should have committed to that particular school.

We can speculate all we want but the fact is that it's another horrible look for Fox. We are all just looking for a shred of hope with this moribund program. A sign that things might be turning around. We finally got it and it only lasted 3 weeks.

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I don't buy this. Maybe it does not look good for Coach Fox, but when the commitment was made, there were three adults and one young person, likely a minor, in the room. Two of the adults were parents whose advice, and whose word apparently meant little. The young person is not yet mature. likely impressionable, and not yet aware of the fact that in life, a man is only as good as his word. He should have been advised that if he is not sure, then he should wait and let the process play out. The only man in the room who demonstrated some character was coach Fox. He kept his word on the offer of a scholarship. I think it is hard enough to find and evaluate a player, and then try to sell the program and the school to the player, but to try be a mind-reader and evaluate a player, his parents, and maybe his agent as to the value of their word is quite a stretch, IMO.

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LOL. This is like 30 years behind the time. Simply put the NIL offer came in better. We are in an entirely new world.

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Do you think there will already be high $ NIL offers for a 3-star player?

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calumnus said:

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SFCityBear said:

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socaltownie said:

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SFCityBear said:

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BC Calfan said:

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It's easy to just blame it on NIL. If so, why did Brown commit in the first place and what transpired in such a short period that made him change his mind?

Maybe another school made a bigger $ offer? OK, then he should have committed to that particular school.

We can speculate all we want but the fact is that it's another horrible look for Fox. We are all just looking for a shred of hope with this moribund program. A sign that things might be turning around. We finally got it and it only lasted 3 weeks.

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I don't buy this. Maybe it does not look good for Coach Fox, but when the commitment was made, there were three adults and one young person, likely a minor, in the room. Two of the adults were parents whose advice, and whose word apparently meant little. The young person is not yet mature. likely impressionable, and not yet aware of the fact that in life, a man is only as good as his word. He should have been advised that if he is not sure, then he should wait and let the process play out. The only man in the room who demonstrated some character was coach Fox. He kept his word on the offer of a scholarship. I think it is hard enough to find and evaluate a player, and then try to sell the program and the school to the player, but to try be a mind-reader and evaluate a player, his parents, and maybe his agent as to the value of their word is quite a stretch, IMO.

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LOL. This is like 30 years behind the time. Simply put the NIL offer came in better. We are in an entirely new world.

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Do you think there will already be high $ NIL offers for a 3-star player?

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He is reopening his recruitment to see what is available. He is just inside the Top 150, so a high 3 star. He is trying to get Arizona interested. Maybe he is trying to get an offer from California Legends before he recommits?

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calumnus said:

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SFCityBear said:

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socaltownie said:

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SFCityBear said:

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BC Calfan said:

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It's easy to just blame it on NIL. If so, why did Brown commit in the first place and what transpired in such a short period that made him change his mind?

Maybe another school made a bigger $ offer? OK, then he should have committed to that particular school.

We can speculate all we want but the fact is that it's another horrible look for Fox. We are all just looking for a shred of hope with this moribund program. A sign that things might be turning around. We finally got it and it only lasted 3 weeks.

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I don't buy this. Maybe it does not look good for Coach Fox, but when the commitment was made, there were three adults and one young person, likely a minor, in the room. Two of the adults were parents whose advice, and whose word apparently meant little. The young person is not yet mature. likely impressionable, and not yet aware of the fact that in life, a man is only as good as his word. He should have been advised that if he is not sure, then he should wait and let the process play out. The only man in the room who demonstrated some character was coach Fox. He kept his word on the offer of a scholarship. I think it is hard enough to find and evaluate a player, and then try to sell the program and the school to the player, but to try be a mind-reader and evaluate a player, his parents, and maybe his agent as to the value of their word is quite a stretch, IMO.

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LOL. This is like 30 years behind the time. Simply put the NIL offer came in better. We are in an entirely new world.

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Do you think there will already be high $ NIL offers for a 3-star player?

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He is reopening his recruitment to see what is available. He is just inside the Top 150, so a high 3 star. He is trying to get Arizona interested. Maybe he is trying to get an offer from California Legends before he recommits?

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eastcoastcal said:

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How many scholarship spots do we have open for this class?

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Big C said:

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...or ask Ben Braun how he handled Patrick Christopher.

I think what you do is, take a deep breath and then tell the kid you'll always be there for him (her), keep in touch and hope for the best.

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socaltownie said:

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Shocky1 said:

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cal's current basketball staff with a combined age of 200 years on planet earth is the oldest 4 person staff in d1 college basketball, this may not bother mark fox or jim knowlton (they both gonna get paid regardless of results or if haas is a cold empty palace again) but in today's fiercely competitive recruiting environment that necessitates daily contact/communications (something that almost all old white men are incapable of fulfilling) in building relationships this is fatal

jaylen brown told me he tried to explain to jim knowlton the importance of a black trusted father figure/life mentor like coach martin but that he didn't think jim understood what the **** he was talking about

if u want more details, the shockster is posting on the rivals site





cal's monster worser class (don't be a dumb azz)#

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YES!!! He emerges. Lets hope 2023 issues in

A new AD
A new BB coach
A return to the Monster Class Thread.

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concordtom said:

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Big C said:

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...or ask Ben Braun how he handled Patrick Christopher.

I think what you do is, take a deep breath and then tell the kid you'll always be there for him (her), keep in touch and hope for the best.

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Patrick Christopher?
Is there some kind of story there?

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