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March 12, 2023
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With the historically unsuccessful Mark Fox era over at Cal, let's take a look at some potential replacement candidates in this critical juncture of Cal basketball.

But before we begin, the profound level of futility of not just the Mark Fox era but also the preceding two years of comparable lack of success from Wyking Jones needs to be examined to understand just how big a hole AD Jim Knowlton and the athletic department needs to figure out a way to dig itself out of.

Following the relatively successful 3-year tenure of Cuonzo Martin, who went 62-39 overall and

Former Cal HC Cuonzo Martin

29-25 in conference before departing to Missouri with a substantial raise that more than doubled his Cal contract, prior AD Mike WIlliams made a critical error in hiring Martin assistant Wyking Jones, who had no head coaching experience. The results were even worse than the gloomiest of sceptics could have imagined, with a pair of last-place finishes and an overall record of 16-47 overall and just 5-31 in conference.

Veteran coach Mark Fox, who had had a modest level of success took over and fared little better in his 4-year tenure at Cal, going just 38-67 overall and 17-61 in conference.

Fortunately in this day of portal transfers and NIL, if a program like Cal that has something

Former Cal HC Mark Fox

beyond futility to offer under the right leadership and framework, including a robust NIL program, the right coach and a few key transfer additions can dramatically change the fortunes of a program without having to suffer through a painfully slow rebuild project.

There are some non-negotiable traits this go-round that are crucial to picking the right person to lead what is not a particularly easy turnaround of a Cal program that’s been down six years now: A strong recruiter, a dynamic personality, high character, problem solver vs. a complainer, an inclusive approach (former players, donors, press, fans input considered), a proven head coach and teacher, a builder/change agent type and energetic.

With that in mind, here are some candidates that Cal can, will or possibly should consider:

Potential primary candidates:

Joe Pasternak UCSB head coach, age 41

Pasternack currently holds a record of 132–52 (.713) and 70–30 (.700) in Big West conference play in six seasons in Santa Barbara. The Gauchos tied for 1st in conference this season with a 15-5 record and 27-7 overall, also winning the Big West conference tourney. The Gauchos earned a 14th seed in the NCAA tournament, facing No. 3 seed Baylor in the first round of the South Region on Friday He has experience as an assistant at Cal and Arizona, where he was their lead recruiter, which could be viewed as a strong positive with the elite players he helped bring in

UCSB HC Joe Pasternack

or potentially a negative if he was personally involved in any of their recruiting violations when he was on staff under Sean Miller. He also helped engineer a turnaround at his first head coaching job at New Orleans so he also has experience digging out of holes. UCSB had also gone 25-36 in the two seasons prior to Pasternack’s arrival. He has strong west coast ties and is known as a strong recruiter.

Darian DeVries Drake head coach, age 47

DeVries currently holds a record of 122–47 (.722) and 63–29 (.685) in Missouri Valley conference play in 5 seasons at Drake.  Drake is currently 27-7 and finished 2nd in conference with a 15-5 record. Drake earned the No. 12 seed in the Midwest Region and will face No. 5 Miami in Albany, NY. DeVries was twice voted conference Coach of the Year and

Drake HC Darian DeVries

has a 1-1 record in NCAA tourney play. Prior to his arrival, Drake went just 23-40 before he engineered a quick turnaround. Combined with his time as an assistant at Creighton, he has a reputation as a strong recruiter and as a dynamic young coach who comes from a good coaching tree, though he does not appear to have particularly strong west coast ties.

Leon Rice, Boise State head coach, age 59

Rice currently holds a record of 267–153 (.636) and 141–88 (.616) in conference play at BSU. They went 13-5 in Mountain

Boise State HC Leon Rice

West play this season,  and 23-8 overall. Rice was twice named conference Coach of the Year and won two regular season conference and one conference tournament championship in his 14 seasons at BSU. He has significant coaching experience also serving as an assistant at Oregon and Gonzaga, though his age might be a bit less attractive.

Brian Dutcher, San Diego State head coach, age 63

Dutcher currently holds a record of 144–46 (.757) overall and 81–25 (.764) in conference play as head coach at SDSU. SDSU

Boise State HC Brian Dutcher

went 15-3 this season, winning the Mountain West conference title and Mountain West conference tourney. SDSU earned a No. 5 seed in the NCAA Tournament, facing 12th-seeded College of Charleston. Dutcher was a longtime assistant head coach for 9 years at Michigan and 18 years at SDSU under highly-successful head coach Brian Fisher. He’s won 3 conference championships and 2 conference championship tournaments in his 5 seasons with the Aztecs. Dutcher has strong west coast ties and a good recruiting reputation though his age may be seen by some as a drawback.

Mark Pope, BYU head coach, age 50

Pope currently holds a record at BYU of  85–40 (.680) overall and 39–21 (.650) in conference in his 4 seasons at BYU. They went 7-9 in conference this season and 17-15 overall, tying for fifth in the West Coast Conference. The Cougars went to the NCAA tourney in 2020-21 after finishing 20-7

BYU HC Mark Pope

and 10-3, 2nd in conference and to the NIT quarterfinals the next season. Dutcher also was an assistant at Wake Forest and Georgia as well as a player for 6 years in the NBA with Denver, Milwaukee and Indiana. He played for Washington and was the captain of Kentucky’s national championship team in 1996.

Next let’s take a look at several potential targets who some might see as a higher risk/higher reward option for various reasons.

Ryan Odom, Utah State head coach, age 48

Odom holds a record at Utah State of 41–23 (.641)overall and 20–15 (.571) in conference play at Utah State in his two seasons there, currently 23-7 and 12-6 in Mountain West Conference play,

Montana State HC Ryan Odom
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finishing 2nd behind San Diego State and tied with Boise State. Prior to Utah State, Odom turned around an awful UMBC (University of Maryland, Baltimore County) who had gone 11-51 in the 2 seasons prior to his arrival to a first-season 21-13 record and 97-60 in 5 seasons. He was also an assistant at Virginia Tech, South Florida, Furman, UNC-Ashville and Charlotte.

Danny Sprinkle, Montana State, age 45

Sprinkle holds a record of 81–42 (.659) 49–23 (.681) at Montana State in Big Sky play, going 25–9 overall and 15–3 in conference this season, finishing 2nd in the regular season and earning a second straight NCAA tourney appearance with a Big Sky conference tournament championship this season. The Bobcats will face No. Kansas State on Friday in the opening round of the tournament in Greensboro, North Carolina. Sprinkle was named the Big Sky Coach of the Year this season. He took over a program that went just 28-46 in the two seasons before he arrived so he’s no stranger to big turnarounds. He's recruited on the west coast as an assistant at Cal State Northridge and Fullerton State and played collegiately at Montana State in the 90s.

Todd Simon, Southern Utah head coach, age 42

Simon holds a record at Southern Utah of 117-105  overall and 65-54 in conference play at Southern Utah in his 2 seasons there. They finished 20-11 overall currently and 12-6 in WAC Conference play. His teams have finished 64-27 in the last 3 seasons. Interestingly, Simon was part of the founding staff of Findlay Prep in Las Vegas and coached former Cal star Jorge Gutierrez in high school. He was also an assistant head coach and interim head coach at UNLV.

Stan Johnson, Loyola Marymount head coach, age 43

Johnson holds a record at LMU of 43–39 (.524) overall and 19–24 (.442) in WCC conference play at

LMU HC Stan Johnson

LMU in his 3 seasons there. They finished this season at 19-12 overall and 9-7 in conference play this season, finishing 4th. Before LMU, Johnson was an assistant at Marquette, ASU, Drake and Utah. He took over a Lions program that went 31-33 prior to his arrival.

Shantay Legans, Portland head coach, age 41

Legans holds a record at Portand of 32–33 (.492) overall and 12–18 (.400) in WCC conference play in his 2 seasons there. They finished this season 13-18 overall and 5-11 in conference play, finishing 8th. He took over a program that had gone just 15-38 the 2 seasons before his arrival. Legans went 39-14 in his final two seasons at Eastern

Portland HC Shantay Leggans

Washington before taking the Portland job. Legans played point guard at Cal from 1999 to 2002 before transferring to Fresno State.

Tim Miles, San Jose State head coach, age 56

Miles holds a record of 27–35 (.435) overall and 11–25 (.306) at San Jose State in Mountain West play in his 2 seasons there. They finished this season 20-12 overall and 10-8 in MWC play after struggling his first season, taking over a Spartans program that

San Jose State HC Tim Miles

went just 20-93 in the 4 prior seasons. Prior to SJS, Miles went 116–114 (.504) in 7 seasons at Nebraska and 71-88 at Colorado State.

Grant McCasland, North Texas head coach, age 46

MacCasland holds a record of 129–65 (.663) overall at North Texas and 71–36 (.664) in Conference USA play in his 6 seasons with the Mean Green. They finished the regular season 26-7 overall and 16-4 in C-USA, finishing second. He took over a North Texas program that has gone just 20-42 prior to his arrival, engineering a nice turnaround. His coaching experience at Baylor gave him bigger recruiting exposure and MacCasland also played at Baylor in the 90s.

Rodney Terry, Texas interim head coach, age 54

Terry holds a record of 17-7 overall at Texas and 12-6 in Big-12 conference play since taking over as interim coach after previous head coach Chris Beard was suspended then fired by the

Texas interim HC Rodney Terry

Longhorns. After knocking off No. 1 seed Kansas in the conference tourney, the Longhorns earned the No. 2 seed in the Midwest Region against No. 15 seed Colgate in Des Moines, Iowa on Thursday. Terry got his head coaching start at Fresno State in 2011, taking a few years before turning around the program and winning 20+ games his last three seasons with the Bulldogs. He then took over at UTEP, going 37–48 (.435) overall and 19–33 (.365) in C-USA play in three seasons before moving over to Texas.

Mark Madsen, Utah Valley head coach, age 47

Madsen holds a record of 65–49 (.570) overall at Utah Valley and 38–25 (.528) in WAC conference play since taking over 4 years ago. Utah Valley went 23–7 overall and 14–3 in conference play, winning the WAC conference championship.

Utah Valley HC Mark Madsen.

The former Stanford power forward had a 9-year NBA career with the Timberwolves and Lakers and spent the preceding years as an assistant, most recently with the Lakers for 4 seasons before taking over at Utah Valley.

 

Amir Abdur-Rahim, Kennesaw State, age 43

Abdur-Rahim holds a record of 45–73 (.381) overall and 24–41 (.369) in ASUN conference, though after three tough seasons to start his coaching career taking over a program that had gone just 16-46 in the two prior seasons, the younger brother of former Cal star forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim had a breakthrough season this year, going 26–8 overall and 15–3 in conference, winning the conference this season and earning them a No. 14 seed in the Midwest bracket and will take on No. 3 seed Xavier Friday. Prior to his first head coaching job, Abdur-Rahim was an assistant at Georgia, Texas A&M and College of Charleston.

The next category of coaches are likely not available due to various reasons, including jobs that currently could be considered better opportunities, higher salaries that perhaps couldn’t be matched, buyouts that would be impossible to cover and other various factors.

Dennis Gates, Missouri head coach, age 43

Gates holds a record of 24–8 (.750) overall and 11–7 (.611) in SEC play in his first season after taking over for former Cal head coach Cuonzo Martin after the Tigers stagnated in his final

Missouri HC Dennis Gates

seasons there. The Tigers earned a 7th seed in the 2023 NCAA tourney where they’ll face 10th-seeded Utah State in the first round, playing as part of the South regional in Sacramento.  Gates got his start as a head coach at Cleveland State, going 50–40 (.556) overall and 38–21 (.644) in Horizon League play after taking over a program that had gone just 40-89 in the four seasons prior to his arrival. However Gates has a prohibitive buyout that would make it very difficult to afford him even if he wanted to come to Cal. Gates played for the Bears from 1998 to 2002 and was an assistant at Cal when he got his start in coaching as well as at Northern Illinois, Nevada and Florida State before taking over at Cleveland State.

Jamie Dixon, TCU head coach, age 53

Dixon holds a record of 138–95 (.592) overall and 51–73 (.411) in Big 12 play and 21-12 overall and 9-9 in Big 12 play this season, earning 6th seed in the 2023 NCAA tournament, facing the winner of the First Four matchup between Arizona State and Nevada. The winner of that matchup will be the 11th seed. Dixon guided the Horned Frogs to the NCAA tourney last season as well, reaching the round of 32. Dixon took over a TCU team that had gone 30-36 in the two seasons prior to taking over after posting an impressive 328–123 (.727) overall and 143–81 (.638) ACC record at Pitt before making the move to TCU. Dixon however was extended to 2028, making his buyout prohibitive.

Todd Golden, Florida head coach, age 37

Golden holds a record of 16–16 at Florida overall and 9–9 in SEC play since taking over the Gators program this season. He parlayed a record of 57–36 (.613) overall at USF and 23–22 (.511) in conference play to the Florida job. But with 5 years and a 15 million buyout, Golden is not a likely addition.

Chris Beard, former Texas head coach, age 50

Golden posted a record at his most recent stop at Texas of 29–13 (.690) overall and 10–8 (.556) in Big 12 conference play before being dismissed for accusations of physical violence with his fiancee that were later retracted by her. Prior to his brief stint at Texas, Beard went 112–55 (.671) overall and 49–40 (.551) in Big 12 conference play, going to the NCAA finals, the Great 8 and round of 32 in three of his four seasons there. Talk is heating up about Ole Miss making a strong pitch for him and even though the allegations were withdrawn against him, he could be a tricky hire at Cal.

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Potential Men's Basketball Coaching Candidates

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KoreAmBear
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southseasbear said:

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Two morons ushering in an unprecedented era of incompetence. The jersey should have had #99 on it.







Musselman was at Nevada and would move on to Arkansas two years later. Some wanted him but he was not a popular choice on this board. I believe he had a drunk driving conviction or something that people thought was a non-starter. Plus people thought he would use us as a stepping stone to the next job, and having just lost Cuonzo, that was a concern. Most wanted DeCuire, who was having success at Montana.

Sandy hired Dykes and Cuonzo.

Williams was only AD a little more than 2 years. He fired Dykes and hired Wilcox which the vast majority on this board applauded at the time (and have applauded for most of the last 6 years). He promoted Jones, which was a huge risk and confirmed to be a mistake, but Jones was only our coach for two years and he left behind a decent, young roster.

Bottom line, Williams' time was short, nothing he did was a program killer and he is a fellow Bear that donated his salary back to Cal. Continuing to blame him for our problems just deflects from the damage Knowlton is doing and the need to get rid of him.

Moreover, the idea of having a Cal alum, former Cal athlete with a Haas degree and career in finance, as an AD is the right direction, even if Williams wasn't the right person. I personally want a Cal alum who has had a career in professional sports management. I think the over the top blame placed on Williams keeps us further from that goal.

FAR better than an unqualified retired hockey player, Army officer from the East Coast who is taking $1.3 million a year to destroy our programs, while throwing away $millions and keeping us out of conference realignment talks which could literally be our demise.


Musselman was my choice. But I understand that his DUI and other behaviors made some not want to hire him. Which I understand. There are always many good choices out there, Cal just does not choose them.
A DUI should not be disqualifying unless he is being considered for a position driving the team bus.

Didn't Harbaugh have one or more DUIs when he was at USD? Overlooking his non-football related foibles turned out to be Stanford's best hiring decision since Bill Walsh.
Yah in fact in California (in many other states) a criminal conviction cannot be legally held against you in employment unless it occurred within the last 7 years AND has a rational relation to the position (e.g. if you were convicted of embezzlement and you apply for an investment manager position).

Cabin14
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Not sure what the hold up is, other than Knowlton plans to hire Tim Miles....pllleaaaassseee no.
Big C
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Cabin14 said:

Not sure what the hold up is, other than Knowlton plans to hire Tim Miles....pllleaaaassseee no.

I'm not going to start officially worrying until the end of this week.

(j/k... as a die-hard Cal Basketball fan, I'm in a constant state of "concern")
Cabin14
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Honestly, I was not in such a state of concern until Jim Knowlton arrived...not even with Mike Williams, who at least loved Cal.

Knowlton is a potentially devastating problem...a Department killer.
socaltownie
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tpender said:

Musselboy is an Ahole but a good coach!
But he isn't a program builder. NOTHING in his current run at Ark suggests anything other than 'I want to be in the NBA" stat.

Cal needs to have someone who takes a STRATEGIC view. Rebuilds alumni relations. Gets the practice facility built. Has a PLAN which makes sense (unlike Fox who had NO plan that made sense in the era of the Portal)
Big Dog
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Should Cal Consider Amir Abdur-Rahim To Be Its Next Basketball Coach?


https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/amir-abdur-rahim


I'd interview Amir before Pasternak
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Big C said:

Cabin14 said:

Not sure what the hold up is, other than Knowlton plans to hire Tim Miles....pllleaaaassseee no.

I'm not going to start officially worrying until the end of this week.

(j/k... as a die-hard Cal Basketball fan, I'm in a constant state of "concern")
After the debacle of the process surrounding the Fox hire, I think Knowlton is going out of his way to make sure all "stake holders" are properly consulted and all candidates are vetted/interviewed. Don't expect it to change the outcome - it seems like its JP or less likely AAR.
stu
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How about JP for HC and AAR for AD?
calumnus
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stu said:

How about JP for HC and AAR for AD?


Shareef for AD, absolutely.
Econ141
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calumnus said:

stu said:

How about JP for HC and AAR for AD?


Shareef for AD, absolutely.


What does Shareef know about football? I think we need to go the UCLA route and bring someone from the B1G and shake things up.
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calumnus
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Econ141 said:

calumnus said:

stu said:

How about JP for HC and AAR for AD?


Shareef for AD, absolutely.


What does Shareef know about football? I think we need to go the UCLA route and bring someone from the B1G and shake things up.


Well he's from Georgia so I'm sure he knows <something> about football, but what did Gladstone know about football? Tedford demonstrated football knowledge as OC at Oregon. What Gladstone, a great coach and leader himself, saw was that Tedford is a leader and had what it takes to be a great head coach. Shareef is a leader, he knows coaching, he knows professional sports management, finance, marketing and he knows Cal. He is running the G League, he would be an amazing AD for Cal.
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calumnus said:

Econ141 said:

calumnus said:

stu said:

How about JP for HC and AAR for AD?


Shareef for AD, absolutely.


What does Shareef know about football? I think we need to go the UCLA route and bring someone from the B1G and shake things up.


Well he's from Georgia so I'm sure he knows <something> about football, but what did Gladstone know about football? Tedford demonstrated football knowledge as OC at Oregon. What Gladstone, a great coach and leader himself, saw was that Tedford is a leader and had what it takes to be a great head coach. Shareef is a leader, he knows coaching, he knows professional sports management, finance, marketing and he knows Cal. He is running the G League, he would be an amazing AD for Cal.
How many successful ADs have a background as football coaches? Not many I can think of (Barry Alvarez??). A good AD is a leader and administrator who can set clear goals and achieve them by hiring the right people. Shareef seems to have those skills given the leadership/admin positions he's held to this point. I think he'd be a good AD.
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BearGoggles said:

calumnus said:

Econ141 said:

calumnus said:

stu said:

How about JP for HC and AAR for AD?
Shareef for AD, absolutely.
What does Shareef know about football? I think we need to go the UCLA route and bring someone from the B1G and shake things up.
Well he's from Georgia so I'm sure he knows <something> about football, but what did Gladstone know about football? Tedford demonstrated football knowledge as OC at Oregon. What Gladstone, a great coach and leader himself, saw was that Tedford is a leader and had what it takes to be a great head coach. Shareef is a leader, he knows coaching, he knows professional sports management, finance, marketing and he knows Cal. He is running the G League, he would be an amazing AD for Cal.
How many successful ADs have a background as football coaches? Not many I can think of (Barry Alvarez??). A good AD is a leader and administrator who can set clear goals and achieve them by hiring the right people. Shareef seems to have those skills given the leadership/admin positions he's held to this point. I think he'd be a good AD.
Saban could have any job he wants at this point but he knows he has more influence and power in Tuscaloosa (and beyond) staying on the sidelines than going into the AD chair, and even previous coaches who have ascended to AD have seen their perceptions smashed after bad hires or scandals (Philip Fulmer got ran out of Knoxville along with Jeremy Pruitt), or just found the job unfulfilling and bounced (Mike Bellotti at Oregon), so it's not an appealing job for football coaches to begin with.
stu
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AD also pays less than FB or MBB (or sometimes WBB) HC
Pittstop
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Mike Garrett (former USC AD), Vince Dooley, Bo Schembechler (I think), Darrell Royal, Terry Donohue, Lynn Swann (not so much). I'm sure I'm missing a few.
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Pittstop said:

Mike Garrett (former USC AD), Vince Dooley, Bo Schembechler (I think), Darrell Royal, Terry Donohue, Lynn Swann (not so much). I'm sure I'm missing a few.
Mike Garrett made a slam dunk hire with Pete Carroll (his fifth choice) but didn't have a grasp of compliance (not just with football but basketball was also sanctioned with Tim Floyd fired), Vince Dooley and Darrell Royal did have long runs as ADs but Bo Schembechler was Michigan AD for only 2 years, Terry Donahue was never AD (and actually left UCLA because of conflicts with the athletic department), and Lynn Swann was inconsequential of course.
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philbert said:



I posted elsewhere that AAR could conceivably add Kennedy to his staff at Cal as Associate HC. They are close and Billy has been a former coach of the year in 3 different conferences and has been an assistant at Cal in his past.

Billy and Abdur-Rahim are tight. Not saying Billy would come but they could be a strong duo on the Cal hoops sideline. Billy was/is an assistant at Wichita State who just recently fired their HC.
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6956bear said:

philbert said:



I posted elsewhere that AAR could conceivably add Kennedy to his staff at Cal as Associate HC. They are close and Billy has been a former coach of the year in 3 different conferences and has been an assistant at Cal in his past.

Billy and Abdur-Rahim are tight. Not saying Billy would come but they could be a strong duo on the Cal hoops sideline. Billy was/is an assistant at Wichita State who just recently fired their HC.
This makes too much sense for JK to even fathom. He'll go with someone with whom he 'feels comfortable'. (Just the exact opposite of good hiring practice which is to bring in someone who is not like you.)
Cabin14
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6956bear said:

philbert said:



I posted elsewhere that AAR could conceivably add Kennedy to his staff at Cal as Associate HC. They are close and Billy has been a former coach of the year in 3 different conferences and has been an assistant at Cal in his past.

Billy and Abdur-Rahim are tight. Not saying Billy would come but they could be a strong duo on the Cal hoops sideline. Billy was/is an assistant at Wichita State who just recently fired their HC.
Billy would be a great get. Good point.

One thing that was glaring was how uninspiring Mark Fox's Assistant Coaches were, and how there was zero turnover in 4 years, which is rare. In a healthy program, there is usually some AC attrition, as they leave for other programs and make upward moves. The fact that there was zero movement under Fox was so telling…no one wanted any of these guys because at the end of the day, what the hell were they actually doing?
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Looks like Chris Mack is off the table.

Ex-Louisville basketball head coach Chris Mack says he won't return to coaching in 2023 cycle
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My gut screams Miles.
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parentswerebears said:

My gut screams Miles.

God I hope not. If Miles is hired then Christ and Knowlton both should be fired.
Cabin14
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parentswerebears said:

My gut screams Miles.
It would be a death sentence for a program already on life support. The worst possible hire, and one that should cost Knowlton his job.

Might as well just pull the plug...I know quite a few alums that would quit supporting the program financially, myself included.
parentswerebears
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I'd be done. There wouldn't be any reason to care anymore.
Bobodeluxe
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parentswerebears said:

I'd be done. There wouldn't be any reason to care anymore.
There IS now?
Cabin14
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Bobodeluxe said:

parentswerebears said:

I'd be done. There wouldn't be any reason to care anymore.
There IS now?
Certainly...this program was a legit contender for 30 years until the recent spate of incompetence atop the Athletic Department the past 6 years filtered down into the revenue sports. This is a blip, one that can be rectified with the right hire.

Tim Miles is not that guy...another retread in his late-50's that has proven to be solid at the mid-major level but at-best mediocre at the P5...rebuilding a San Jose State squad for one season behind an absolute dawg that will play in the League and won MWC POY does not mean Miles is some miracle worker...it means he got lucky and inherited a Pro. He does not check enough boxes...he is Mark Fox 2.0.

It would be so like Knowlton to pass on Dennis Gates because he didn't want Wyking 2.0, just to then hire Mark Fox 2.0 after the worst season in Cal history.
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Bobodeluxe said:

parentswerebears said:

I'd be done. There wouldn't be any reason to care anymore.
There IS now?

A sliver of hope.
Big C
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parentswerebears said:

Bobodeluxe said:

parentswerebears said:

I'd be done. There wouldn't be any reason to care anymore.
There IS now?

A sliver of hope.

Whenever we're about to hire a coach is traditionally one of the most hopeful times for Cal Basketball or Football. Hell, maybe we're about to hire somebody good this time: It's possible !
Cabin14
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Big C said:

parentswerebears said:

Bobodeluxe said:

parentswerebears said:

I'd be done. There wouldn't be any reason to care anymore.
There IS now?

A sliver of hope.

Whenever we're about to hire a coach is traditionally one of the most hopeful times for Cal Basketball or Football. Hell, maybe we're about to hire somebody good this time: It's possible !
Honestly, I would hazard a guess that a vast majority of the fan base will be pleased with anyone other than a retread hire like Mark Fox...specifically, a guy in his mid-late 50's that achieved most of his success at a mid-major and has already been terminated from a P5 gig...a guy like Tim Miles.
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One key to happiness is to temper one's expectations.
Cabin14
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stu said:

One key to happiness is to temper one's expectations.
Pretty sure most Cal fans that are paying attention are familiar with the severe limitations of Jim Knowlton as an AD and their expectations are properly tempered. The hope is he doesn't completely whiff on another Men's basketball hire....
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Cabin14 said:

stu said:

One key to happiness is to temper one's expectations.
Pretty sure most Cal fans that are paying attention are familiar with the severe limitations of Jim Knowlton as an AD and their expectations are properly tempered. The hope is he doesn't completely whiff on another Men's basketball hire....

Part of me thinks- he can't be that incompetent as to make a bad hire. But then I remember all of his other decisions and I just feel it in my bones. This is Fox 2.0 in the making.
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Cabin14 said:

stu said:

One key to happiness is to temper one's expectations.
Pretty sure most Cal fans that are paying attention are familiar with the severe limitations of Jim Knowlton as an AD and their expectations are properly tempered. The hope is he doesn't completely whiff on another Men's basketball hire....
Ted Lasso's contract is up.
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Cabin14 said:

Big C said:

parentswerebears said:

Bobodeluxe said:

parentswerebears said:

I'd be done. There wouldn't be any reason to care anymore.
There IS now?

A sliver of hope.

Whenever we're about to hire a coach is traditionally one of the most hopeful times for Cal Basketball or Football. Hell, maybe we're about to hire somebody good this time: It's possible !
Honestly, I would hazard a guess that a vast majority of the fan base will be pleased with anyone other than a retread hire like Mark Fox...specifically, a guy in his mid-late 50's that achieved most of his success at a mid-major and has already been terminated from a P5 gig...a guy like Tim Miles.


Exactly. I had Pasternack as my floor. I'd already gotten to acceptance.
 
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