75bear said:
I'd like to become a member, where do I join?
Count me in too!calumnus said:75bear said:
I'd like to become a member, where do I join?
You just did
bearister said:
41 points and 25 boards in the SoCal Challenge (4th double double). Well done, Daws!
barsad said:
What gets me about Daws is I'll be roaring in delight and groaning in despair within the same 10 seconds. Case in point. He had a game saving block with 27 secs left to give Jaylon a chance at a buzzer beater in regulation. Great defensive play. Then in OT at 3:44 he misses the last 2 of his 25 attempts, a short jumper and an open layup… we pretended we didn't see it because right after that Jaylon put down a thunderous dunk that made everything seem right. Roar, then groan.
barsad said:
What gets me about Daws is I'll be roaring in delight and groaning in despair within the same 10 seconds. Case in point. He had a game saving block with 27 secs left to give Jaylon a chance at a buzzer beater in regulation. Great defensive play. Then in OT at 3:44 he misses the last 2 of his 25 attempts, a short jumper and an open layup… we pretended we didn't see it because right after that Jaylon put down a thunderous dunk that made everything seem right. Roar, then groan.
nly 3 players, including Fawdaws tonigh have grabbed 20+ rebounds in a single game in last 40 years01Bear said:barsad said:
What gets me about Daws is I'll be roaring in delight and groaning in despair within the same 10 seconds. Case in point. He had a game saving block with 27 secs left to give Jaylon a chance at a buzzer beater in regulation. Great defensive play. Then in OT at 3:44 he misses the last 2 of his 25 attempts, a short jumper and an open layup… we pretended we didn't see it because right after that Jaylon put down a thunderous dunk that made everything seem right. Roar, then groan.
Daws doesn't go strong to the rim. He's too tentative. He needs to study film of guys like Shaq, Ewing, and Moses Malone. Those guys went hard to the hole. Daws needs to learn to anticipate contact and to play through it instead of trying to avoid it.
Big C said:01Bear said:barsad said:
What gets me about Daws is I'll be roaring in delight and groaning in despair within the same 10 seconds. Case in point. He had a game saving block with 27 secs left to give Jaylon a chance at a buzzer beater in regulation. Great defensive play. Then in OT at 3:44 he misses the last 2 of his 25 attempts, a short jumper and an open layup… we pretended we didn't see it because right after that Jaylon put down a thunderous dunk that made everything seem right. Roar, then groan.
Daws doesn't go strong to the rim. He's too tentative. He needs to study film of guys like Shaq, Ewing, and Moses Malone. Those guys went hard to the hole. Daws needs to learn to anticipate contact and to play through it instead of trying to avoid it.
It seemed like there were two different Low Post Daws this evening: the First Half Daws, where he did all the things you recommend, then the Second Half Daws, where he would go straight up -- and weakly at that -- and get his shot stuffed or just miss it. Am I right that 14 of his 15 came in the first half? Something like that...
He missed a bunch of close shots. He is not a great finisher for sure. But he also had 20 rebounds and 5 assists. USC is tall and athletic inside and it clearly impacted him when he got the ball around the basket. But 20 boards is big and 5 assists is very good as well.Big C said:01Bear said:barsad said:
What gets me about Daws is I'll be roaring in delight and groaning in despair within the same 10 seconds. Case in point. He had a game saving block with 27 secs left to give Jaylon a chance at a buzzer beater in regulation. Great defensive play. Then in OT at 3:44 he misses the last 2 of his 25 attempts, a short jumper and an open layup… we pretended we didn't see it because right after that Jaylon put down a thunderous dunk that made everything seem right. Roar, then groan.
Daws doesn't go strong to the rim. He's too tentative. He needs to study film of guys like Shaq, Ewing, and Moses Malone. Those guys went hard to the hole. Daws needs to learn to anticipate contact and to play through it instead of trying to avoid it.
It seemed like there were two different Low Post Daws this evening: the First Half Daws, where he did all the things you recommend, then the Second Half Daws, where he would go straight up -- and weakly at that -- and get his shot stuffed or just miss it. Am I right that 14 of his 15 came in the first half? Something like that...
As much as I love MM this is a lot on him. I'm sure he had match up reasons why he thought he couldn't give him more rest but it was sure apparent at the end.Big C said:01Bear said:barsad said:
What gets me about Daws is I'll be roaring in delight and groaning in despair within the same 10 seconds. Case in point. He had a game saving block with 27 secs left to give Jaylon a chance at a buzzer beater in regulation. Great defensive play. Then in OT at 3:44 he misses the last 2 of his 25 attempts, a short jumper and an open layup… we pretended we didn't see it because right after that Jaylon put down a thunderous dunk that made everything seem right. Roar, then groan.
Daws doesn't go strong to the rim. He's too tentative. He needs to study film of guys like Shaq, Ewing, and Moses Malone. Those guys went hard to the hole. Daws needs to learn to anticipate contact and to play through it instead of trying to avoid it.
It seemed like there were two different Low Post Daws this evening: the First Half Daws, where he did all the things you recommend, then the Second Half Daws, where he would go straight up -- and weakly at that -- and get his shot stuffed or just miss it. Am I right that 14 of his 15 came in the first half? Something like that...
This is definitely what happened, but he appeared gassed for the ENTIRE second half. I mean, he went all out in the first half, but that's some serious conditioning issue if he can barely function after playing 20 minutes. Would have loved to see at least SOMEBODY give him a blow.01Bear said:Big C said:01Bear said:barsad said:
What gets me about Daws is I'll be roaring in delight and groaning in despair within the same 10 seconds. Case in point. He had a game saving block with 27 secs left to give Jaylon a chance at a buzzer beater in regulation. Great defensive play. Then in OT at 3:44 he misses the last 2 of his 25 attempts, a short jumper and an open layup… we pretended we didn't see it because right after that Jaylon put down a thunderous dunk that made everything seem right. Roar, then groan.
Daws doesn't go strong to the rim. He's too tentative. He needs to study film of guys like Shaq, Ewing, and Moses Malone. Those guys went hard to the hole. Daws needs to learn to anticipate contact and to play through it instead of trying to avoid it.
It seemed like there were two different Low Post Daws this evening: the First Half Daws, where he did all the things you recommend, then the Second Half Daws, where he would go straight up -- and weakly at that -- and get his shot stuffed or just miss it. Am I right that 14 of his 15 came in the first half? Something like that...
Yup! Someone mentioned that Daws may have gotten gassed in the second half. That's very possible.
Can we put a red light on all of this negativity toward Aimaq please?barsad said:
0-2 on 3s? 34% for the season?
Can Madsen put a red light on that please? We have enough 3 point shooters, the big man needs to work on not getting the ball stripped what seems like EVERY time he's under the basket.
bearister said:
Daws is now # 4 in NCAA Double Double Standings. When viewed in the history of Cal centers, he is one of our very good ones.
It was only discussed by a few in this thread, but his offensive efficiency crashes after too many playing minutes. I suppose that when he knows he is gassed, he should pass more and just focus on boards and D.
The criticism here makes me wonder how many Cal games the critics have logged.
I also think there is a bit of the Cris Collinsworth/Greg Papa Jared Goff Syndrome going on here. Like they did with Goff, you are doing with Daws. They bashed him early in his career and from then on, to shore up their initial analysis, they had to keep focusing on the negative and minimize the positive.
I think he does play tough and physical. He loves moving people on the block. He's just not a good enough athlete to get it done against fronts like USC's. My big gripe are his turnovers.01Bear said:bearister said:
Daws is now # 4 in NCAA Double Double Standings. When viewed in the history of Cal centers, he is one of our very good ones.
It was only discussed by a few in this thread, but his offensive efficiency crashes after too many playing minutes. I suppose that when he knows he is gassed, he should pass more and just focus on boards and D.
The criticism here makes me wonder how many Cal games the critics have logged.
I also think there is a bit of the Cris Collinsworth/Greg Papa Jared Goff Syndrome going on here. Like they did with Goff, you are doing with Daws. They bashed him early in his career and from then on, to shore up their initial analysis, they had to keep focusing on the negative and minimize the positive.
I like Daws; I want him to do well.
But I also grew up in the golden age of big men. I got to watch Kareem play against Ewing, Hakeem, the Admiral, and Parish. I watched Shaq dominate Dikembe, Yao, and Zo. I expect bigs to play tough and physical basketball in the paint.
Daws does that when he crashes the boards. But he does not always play that way when he has the ball. It could be a mental thing, a physical thing, or even a conditioning thing. Either way, Daws hasn't quite put it all together, yet. I'm hoping he does (especially while in a Cal uniform). But for now, he's playing too hesitantly to impose his will as a big in the post, when it matters.
concernedparent said:I think he does play tough and physical. He loves moving people on the block. He's just not a good enough athlete to get it done against fronts like USC's. My big gripe are his turnovers.01Bear said:bearister said:
Daws is now # 4 in NCAA Double Double Standings. When viewed in the history of Cal centers, he is one of our very good ones.
It was only discussed by a few in this thread, but his offensive efficiency crashes after too many playing minutes. I suppose that when he knows he is gassed, he should pass more and just focus on boards and D.
The criticism here makes me wonder how many Cal games the critics have logged.
I also think there is a bit of the Cris Collinsworth/Greg Papa Jared Goff Syndrome going on here. Like they did with Goff, you are doing with Daws. They bashed him early in his career and from then on, to shore up their initial analysis, they had to keep focusing on the negative and minimize the positive.
I like Daws; I want him to do well.
But I also grew up in the golden age of big men. I got to watch Kareem play against Ewing, Hakeem, the Admiral, and Parish. I watched Shaq dominate Dikembe, Yao, and Zo. I expect bigs to play tough and physical basketball in the paint.
Daws does that when he crashes the boards. But he does not always play that way when he has the ball. It could be a mental thing, a physical thing, or even a conditioning thing. Either way, Daws hasn't quite put it all together, yet. I'm hoping he does (especially while in a Cal uniform). But for now, he's playing too hesitantly to impose his will as a big in the post, when it matters.
Oh sh*t, I need to be more careful. Thanks bearister. I've gone back in and corrected it. My apologies.bearister said:
"…. the late Dennis Gates.."
You scared the f@uck out of me with that error.
Well, here we are talking about Daws and using guys like Kareem, Ewing, and Hakeem as a measuring stick. Again, isn't it time to cut the guy some slack?01Bear said:bearister said:
Daws is now # 4 in NCAA Double Double Standings. When viewed in the history of Cal centers, he is one of our very good ones.
It was only discussed by a few in this thread, but his offensive efficiency crashes after too many playing minutes. I suppose that when he knows he is gassed, he should pass more and just focus on boards and D.
The criticism here makes me wonder how many Cal games the critics have logged.
I also think there is a bit of the Cris Collinsworth/Greg Papa Jared Goff Syndrome going on here. Like they did with Goff, you are doing with Daws. They bashed him early in his career and from then on, to shore up their initial analysis, they had to keep focusing on the negative and minimize the positive.
I like Daws; I want him to do well.
But I also grew up in the golden age of big men. I got to watch Kareem play against Ewing, Hakeem, the Admiral, and Parish. I watched Shaq dominate Dikembe, Yao, and Zo. I expect bigs to play tough and physical basketball in the paint.
Daws does that when he crashes the boards. But he does not always play that way when he has the ball. It could be a mental thing, a physical thing, or even a conditioning thing. Either way, Daws hasn't quite put it all together, yet. I'm hoping he does (especially while in a Cal uniform). But for now, he's playing too hesitantly to impose his will as a big in the post, when it matters.
RedlessWardrobe said:Well, here we are talking about Daws and using guys like Kareem, Ewing, and Hakeem as a measuring stick. Again, isn't it time to cut the guy some slack?01Bear said:bearister said:
Daws is now # 4 in NCAA Double Double Standings. When viewed in the history of Cal centers, he is one of our very good ones.
It was only discussed by a few in this thread, but his offensive efficiency crashes after too many playing minutes. I suppose that when he knows he is gassed, he should pass more and just focus on boards and D.
The criticism here makes me wonder how many Cal games the critics have logged.
I also think there is a bit of the Cris Collinsworth/Greg Papa Jared Goff Syndrome going on here. Like they did with Goff, you are doing with Daws. They bashed him early in his career and from then on, to shore up their initial analysis, they had to keep focusing on the negative and minimize the positive.
I like Daws; I want him to do well.
But I also grew up in the golden age of big men. I got to watch Kareem play against Ewing, Hakeem, the Admiral, and Parish. I watched Shaq dominate Dikembe, Yao, and Zo. I expect bigs to play tough and physical basketball in the paint.
Daws does that when he crashes the boards. But he does not always play that way when he has the ball. It could be a mental thing, a physical thing, or even a conditioning thing. Either way, Daws hasn't quite put it all together, yet. I'm hoping he does (especially while in a Cal uniform). But for now, he's playing too hesitantly to impose his will as a big in the post, when it matters.
Reading Rod Benson's book, he has much praise for the Newell Big Man Camp and how much that improved his game - and got him on the path to being able to play professional basketball. He also writes about visiting Newell and listening to Newell for hours.01Bear said:RedlessWardrobe said:Well, here we are talking about Daws and using guys like Kareem, Ewing, and Hakeem as a measuring stick. Again, isn't it time to cut the guy some slack?01Bear said:bearister said:
Daws is now # 4 in NCAA Double Double Standings. When viewed in the history of Cal centers, he is one of our very good ones.
It was only discussed by a few in this thread, but his offensive efficiency crashes after too many playing minutes. I suppose that when he knows he is gassed, he should pass more and just focus on boards and D.
The criticism here makes me wonder how many Cal games the critics have logged.
I also think there is a bit of the Cris Collinsworth/Greg Papa Jared Goff Syndrome going on here. Like they did with Goff, you are doing with Daws. They bashed him early in his career and from then on, to shore up their initial analysis, they had to keep focusing on the negative and minimize the positive.
I like Daws; I want him to do well.
But I also grew up in the golden age of big men. I got to watch Kareem play against Ewing, Hakeem, the Admiral, and Parish. I watched Shaq dominate Dikembe, Yao, and Zo. I expect bigs to play tough and physical basketball in the paint.
Daws does that when he crashes the boards. But he does not always play that way when he has the ball. It could be a mental thing, a physical thing, or even a conditioning thing. Either way, Daws hasn't quite put it all together, yet. I'm hoping he does (especially while in a Cal uniform). But for now, he's playing too hesitantly to impose his will as a big in the post, when it matters.
Fair point. Those guys were legends of the game. How about if Daws at least played a bit more like Charles Oakley and Bill Laimbeer? I just want to see some swagger and physical dominance. Doesn't have to be a scorer, necessarily, but have to be a physical presence in the post.
01Bear said:
How about if Daws at least played a bit more like Charles Oakley and Bill Laimbeer? I just want to see some swagger and physical dominance. Doesn't have to be a scorer, necessarily, but have to be a physical presence in the post.
