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8:23a, 1/27/24
Was at the game last night, like everyone else extremely happy at the result. But there's something I just can't let go.
Sitting on the northwest end, section 8, row 4 of premium bench. Just under a minute into the second half, the Furd player drives the baseline, stumbles over his own feet, and falls out of bounds with the ball as Celistine is holding his ground between the baseline and bottom of the key. The whistle comes late, the ref looks at Celestine and decides its his foul.
Being on the opposite end of the court, over 100 feet away, I figure there was something I didn't see. They show the replay on the scoreboard and it still looks like there was nothing.
I recorded the game, haven't had time yet to go back and watch it, but if it confirms what I'm saying, that ref should not be paid for last night's game.
Can anybody who was watching at home last night confirm/contradict what I thought I saw?
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In reply to RedlessWardrobe • 8:27a, 1/27/24
RedlessWardrobe said:
Was at the game last night, like everyone else extremely happy at the result. But there's something I just can't let go.
Sitting on the northwest end, section 8, row 4 of premium bench. Just under a minute into the second half, the Furd player drives the baseline, stumbles over his own feet, and falls out of bounds with the ball as Celistine is holding his ground between the baseline and bottom of the key. The whistle comes late, the ref looks at Celestine and decides its his foul.
Being on the opposite end of the court, over 100 feet away, I figure there was something I didn't see. They show the replay on the scoreboard and it still looks like there was nothing.
I recorded the game, haven't had time yet to go back and watch it, but if it confirms what I'm saying, that ref should not be paid for last night's game.
Can anybody who was watching at home last night confirm/contradict what I thought I saw?


Thats what I saw. You are right.
Go Bears!
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8:32a, 1/27/24
OD, if you saw it and I saw it, put a stop payment on that ref's comp.
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In reply to RedlessWardrobe • 8:50a, 1/27/24
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OD, if you saw it and I saw it, put a stop payment on that ref's comp.


These huge delays in evaluating calls are maddening.
Go Bears!
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11:00a, 1/27/24
I'm curious how many people who complain about the job the refs do have ever refereed a game, at any level. Its not easy.
My son has reffed youth games and even that is brutal. No one ever likes the refs.
Accept for Mark Madsen - he likes everyone.
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11:11a, 1/27/24
Sometimes refs blow their whistle, and then afterwards wish they hadn't. At that point, they just gotta assign a foul on someone, right or wrong.

The refs weren't perfect last night, but I thought we benefited from (non-)calls for a period down the stretch, and Stanford benefited from some calls in the game as well.

Overall, I thought the calls balanced out as close as one can hope. Our raucous home crowd definitely got us an extra point or two.
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In reply to graguna • 11:45a, 1/27/24
graguna said:
I'm curious how many people who complain about the job the refs do have ever refereed a game, at any level. Its not easy.
My son has reffed youth games and even that is brutal. No one ever likes the refs.
Accept for Mark Madsen - he likes everyone.
I understand your point. The most important thing that happened is that the Bears won. And yes, it's a hard game to officiate, sometimes both teams benefit from a bad call.
But my gripe is specifically about that one particular call. Unless I missed something, the play was literally right in front of the ref, and to make the call he did was not forgiveable.
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12:20p, 1/27/24
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That was a horrible call. My seats look right down that baseline from row 9. He tried to take the ball baseline where there was just no lane. That's on him. Celestine didn't body him up and force him out. He just tried to go where there was no room to go.

Cone got knocked down several times in the first half on shots with no calls. Aimaq and others got hammered several times with no calls. The ridiculous "cylinder" call on Newell was a travesty.

Cal finally got some breaks in the second half so I'd probably call that half fairly even but the first half was called ridiculously lopsidedly for the maroons.
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In reply to MoragaBear • 1:01p, 1/27/24
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The ridiculous "cylinder" call on Newell was a travesty.
I have played a ton of basketball, coached, and watched literally hundreds of games at the high school, college and pro level, and I have NEVER seen that call before. Perhaps it is a new rule but if it is, it is a dumb rule.

I have reffed a few games in my life and yes, it is a difficult job. But the officiating last night, both ways, was bad and SLOW. So many late calls and calls by officials who were not in the proper position to make the call. That was just a bad crew.
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In reply to Bear8995 • 3:15p, 1/27/24
Bear8995 said:
MoragaBear said:
The ridiculous "cylinder" call on Newell was a travesty.
I have played a ton of basketball, coached, and watched literally hundreds of games at the high school, college and pro level, and I have NEVER seen that call before. Perhaps it is a new rule but if it is, it is a dumb rule.

I have reffed a few games in my life and yes, it is a difficult job. But the officiating last night, both ways, was bad and SLOW. So many late calls and calls by officials who were not in the proper position to make the call. That was just a bad crew.


My dad has many years as a player, coach, author and ref, in the PAC-10 even reffing the OAL in his 70s. He always said, refs need to keep in mind their job is to facilitate a good basketball game. The toughest call in sports (with the biggest consequence) is the charge/block offensive/defensive foul. His rule, was to ask "Who was playing good basketball on that play?" and do not reward "bad basketball" or penalize good basketball with a foul call.
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4:03p, 1/27/24
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted

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In reply to HoopDreams • 4:27p, 1/27/24
HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted



Like calling a penalty on Cal when Skov launched himself with the crown of his helmet into Goff's shoulder and head, knocking Goff out of the game, requiring off season surgery AND negating a Cal first down completion?
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In reply to RedlessWardrobe • 4:34p, 1/27/24
Did the Haas crowd make it known to the ref in no uncertain terms that he made a terrible mistake?
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In reply to bear2034 • 4:37p, 1/27/24
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Did the Haas crowd make it known to the ref in no uncertain terms that he made a terrible mistake?

Yeah but not as loud as it could've/should've been IMO.
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In reply to calumnus • 4:47p, 1/27/24
calumnus said:
HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted



Like calling a penalty on Cal when Skov launched himself with the crown of his helmet into Goff's shoulder and head, knocking Goff out of the game, requiring off season surgery AND negating a Cal first down completion?
Never forget, never forgive
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In reply to HoopDreams • 4:51p, 1/27/24
I'll the first half Maxine hooked Gus and created an easy layup for himself.
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In reply to bipolarbear • 6:21p, 1/27/24
bipolarbear said:
calumnus said:
HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted



Like calling a penalty on Cal when Skov launched himself with the crown of his helmet into Goff's shoulder and head, knocking Goff out of the game, requiring off season surgery AND negating a Cal first down completion?
Never forget, never forgive

I will one day be able to tell my grandkids that I personally witnessed the worst call ever! (doesn't make it worth it, though)
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In reply to HoopDreams • 7:14a, 1/28/24
HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted

To your point HD, when someone falls down the refs feel they gotta call a foul. But they don't have to call one if the guy falling down is out of bounds. In this case there is already a reason for a whistle.
BTW, watched the replay. We can all agree, ridiculous call.
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In reply to Big C • 11:33a, 1/28/24
Big C said:
bipolarbear said:
calumnus said:
HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted



Like calling a penalty on Cal when Skov launched himself with the crown of his helmet into Goff's shoulder and head, knocking Goff out of the game, requiring off season surgery AND negating a Cal first down completion?
Never forget, never forgive

I will one day be able to tell my grandkids that I personally witnessed the worst call ever! (doesn't make it worth it, though)
Where is Skov now? Selling 'investment opportunities"somewhere?
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In reply to bipolarbear • 12:34p, 1/28/24
bipolarbear said:
Big C said:
bipolarbear said:
calumnus said:
HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted



Like calling a penalty on Cal when Skov launched himself with the crown of his helmet into Goff's shoulder and head, knocking Goff out of the game, requiring off season surgery AND negating a Cal first down completion?
Never forget, never forgive

I will one day be able to tell my grandkids that I personally witnessed the worst call ever! (doesn't make it worth it, though)
Where is Skov now? Selling 'investment opportunities"somewhere?


Like every Stanford guy he had a couple stints with the 49ers. Now he is an Engagement Manager for McKinsey in Santa Barbara.
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In reply to calumnus • 6:38p, 1/28/24
calumnus said:
bipolarbear said:
Big C said:
bipolarbear said:
calumnus said:
HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted



Like calling a penalty on Cal when Skov launched himself with the crown of his helmet into Goff's shoulder and head, knocking Goff out of the game, requiring off season surgery AND negating a Cal first down completion?
Never forget, never forgive

I will one day be able to tell my grandkids that I personally witnessed the worst call ever! (doesn't make it worth it, though)
Where is Skov now? Selling 'investment opportunities"somewhere?


Like every Stanford guy he had a couple stints with the 49ers. Now he is an Engagement Manager for McKinsey in Santa Barbara.
What's an Engagement Manager? I mean, fewer people than ever are even getting married these days.
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In reply to Big C • 7:50p, 1/28/24
Big C said:
bipolarbear said:
calumnus said:
HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted



Like calling a penalty on Cal when Skov launched himself with the crown of his helmet into Goff's shoulder and head, knocking Goff out of the game, requiring off season surgery AND negating a Cal first down completion?
Never forget, never forgive

I will one day be able to tell my grandkids that I personally witnessed the worst call ever! (doesn't make it worth it, though)
Well, USC was once awarded a TD against Cal on a ball that bounced off the ground into the receiver's hands. We've seen a lot of the "worst calls ever."
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7:55a, 1/29/24
Plus Dennis Dummits knee was down at the three yard line.
Go Bears!
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In reply to SFCityBear • 8:43a, 1/29/24
SFCityBear said:
calumnus said:
bipolarbear said:
Big C said:
bipolarbear said:
calumnus said:
HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted



Like calling a penalty on Cal when Skov launched himself with the crown of his helmet into Goff's shoulder and head, knocking Goff out of the game, requiring off season surgery AND negating a Cal first down completion?
Never forget, never forgive

I will one day be able to tell my grandkids that I personally witnessed the worst call ever! (doesn't make it worth it, though)
Where is Skov now? Selling 'investment opportunities"somewhere?


Like every Stanford guy he had a couple stints with the 49ers. Now he is an Engagement Manager for McKinsey in Santa Barbara.
What's an Engagement Manager? I mean, fewer people than ever are even getting married these days.
Engagement Manager Job Description: Keep the client from blowing a gasket when the schedule slips or the solution doesn't work as advertised and look for opportunities to upsell your services.
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10:09a, 1/29/24
There seemed to be a lot of late whistles on Friday, drove me crazy. They went both ways, but that baseline call was the worst. The Stanford player goes out of bounds, looks at the ref (I think it was Padilla) with an expression that says "***?" and THEN the foul gets called.

From my angle, I could see both of them and their expressions. It seemed obvious that the ref had no idea, but the player's pleading expression convinced him to blow the late whistle. I looked at the replay on the video board, confirming no foul. Really terrible.

For the cylinder play, I was surprised they could even call a foul on Newell after review, as opposed to only reviewing whether there was a flagrant, but apparently in that context, they can. Rule 11.2.1.d.1.b states: "When there is a foul called for swinging of the elbows involving the cylinder rule or a hook and hold play, the officials may review the play and adjudicate all penalties by removing fouls, assessing fouls against any player or concluding that no foul(s) occurred." Newell got hit, not that hard, in the shoulder but his head moved to avoid contact. IMO, the right call would have been to conclude that no foul occurred, the shoulder contact wasn't enough for a defensive foul (or an offensive foul), give Stanford the ball back out of bounds, play on.

Another thing that drove me crazy Friday was that there were a lot of fingernail fouls that didn't impact the play that were called, and a lot of muggings that seriously impacted the play that were not called. Again, they went both ways.

I know basketball is a very hard game to officiate, but these guys need to do a better job than they did Friday.

The football missed calls mentioned in this thread are worse than most bad basketball calls, because they are easier to see. But none of the calls mentioned are the worst call ever.

The worst call ever was the phantom offside call in the 2022 Cal-Notre Dame game. The Cal player is lined up well behind the neutral zone, gets a late jump off the snap, the field goal is missed, and then the flag is thrown for offside, lining up in the neutral zone.

I get that with game speed, officials miss things, and when a lot of action is going on, sometimes officials think they see things that didn't happen. Nobody's perfect. But when there is no action going on, you can't see something that didn't happen. You can't think a guy lined up in the neutral zone when he is well behind it. You can't think a guy left early when he left late. The ONLY explanations for that call were that the official hallucinated, or that he was corrupt, and the latter seems far more likely.

From the Cal section at Notre Dame, I had no idea the call was a bad one until my phone started blowing up with texts from people watching on TV. I had to watch the recording to know that I had been there for the worst officiating call ever.
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In reply to Cal8285 • 10:32a, 1/29/24
I also noticed a lot of late whistles in the game on Friday. I assumed some of them were due to the crowd noise and not hearing it. But some were definitely of the variety where the ref waited to see if the shot is made, in which case he wants to play on, but if the shot is missed, he blows his whistle to penalize the defensive play. I'm not completely against this kind of tactic, since it creates a better flow to the game, but it can be infuriating as a fan and lead to inconsistency complaints.

Bottom line, yes, an official's job is extremely difficult.
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In reply to Cal8285 • 12:46p, 1/29/24
Cal8285 said:
There seemed to be a lot of late whistles on Friday, drove me crazy. They went both ways, but that baseline call was the worst. The Stanford player goes out of bounds, looks at the ref (I think it was Padilla) with an expression that says "***?" and THEN the foul gets called.

From my angle, I could see both of them and their expressions. It seemed obvious that the ref had no idea, but the player's pleading expression convinced him to blow the late whistle. I looked at the replay on the video board, confirming no foul. Really terrible.

For the cylinder play, I was surprised they could even call a foul on Newell after review, as opposed to only reviewing whether there was a flagrant, but apparently in that context, they can. Rule 11.2.1.d.1.b states: "When there is a foul called for swinging of the elbows involving the cylinder rule or a hook and hold play, the officials may review the play and adjudicate all penalties by removing fouls, assessing fouls against any player or concluding that no foul(s) occurred." Newell got hit, not that hard, in the shoulder but his head moved to avoid contact. IMO, the right call would have been to conclude that no foul occurred, the shoulder contact wasn't enough for a defensive foul (or an offensive foul), give Stanford the ball back out of bounds, play on.

Another thing that drove me crazy Friday was that there were a lot of fingernail fouls that didn't impact the play that were called, and a lot of muggings that seriously impacted the play that were not called. Again, they went both ways.

I know basketball is a very hard game to officiate, but these guys need to do a better job than they did Friday.

The football missed calls mentioned in this thread are worse than most bad basketball calls, because they are easier to see. But none of the calls mentioned are the worst call ever.

The worst call ever was the phantom offside call in the 2022 Cal-Notre Dame game. The Cal player is lined up well behind the neutral zone, gets a late jump off the snap, the field goal is missed, and then the flag is thrown for offside, lining up in the neutral zone.

I get that with game speed, officials miss things, and when a lot of action is going on, sometimes officials think they see things that didn't happen. Nobody's perfect. But when there is no action going on, you can't see something that didn't happen. You can't think a guy lined up in the neutral zone when he is well behind it. You can't think a guy left early when he left late. The ONLY explanations for that call were that the official hallucinated, or that he was corrupt, and the latter seems far more likely.

From the Cal section at Notre Dame, I had no idea the call was a bad one until my phone started blowing up with texts from people watching on TV. I had to watch the recording to know that I had been there for the worst officiating call ever.
good post on the basketball and notre dame fouls/penalty
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12:51p, 1/29/24
I 100% agree on the bizarre cylinder call. I have never seen that and I have no idea how you can overturn such a close play on replay - far from a clear error on the original call.

That being said, I'm going to be a bit contrarian here. Yes, there were a fair number of bad calls. But by Pac-12 standards (which are very, very, very low), I thought the game was refereed better than usual. I was fine with the no calls on contact near the basket - much prefer that to the typical Pac-12 "call everything" approach. Let them play.

There was a period in the second half where I though they reverted to calling minor fouls (and giving Furd free throws), but on the whole it wasn't terrible.

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In reply to Cal8285 • 2:30p, 1/29/24
Cal8285 said:
There seemed to be a lot of late whistles on Friday, drove me crazy. They went both ways, but that baseline call was the worst. The Stanford player goes out of bounds, looks at the ref (I think it was Padilla) with an expression that says "***?" and THEN the foul gets called.

From my angle, I could see both of them and their expressions. It seemed obvious that the ref had no idea, but the player's pleading expression convinced him to blow the late whistle. I looked at the replay on the video board, confirming no foul. Really terrible.

For the cylinder play, I was surprised they could even call a foul on Newell after review, as opposed to only reviewing whether there was a flagrant, but apparently in that context, they can. Rule 11.2.1.d.1.b states: "When there is a foul called for swinging of the elbows involving the cylinder rule or a hook and hold play, the officials may review the play and adjudicate all penalties by removing fouls, assessing fouls against any player or concluding that no foul(s) occurred." Newell got hit, not that hard, in the shoulder but his head moved to avoid contact. IMO, the right call would have been to conclude that no foul occurred, the shoulder contact wasn't enough for a defensive foul (or an offensive foul), give Stanford the ball back out of bounds, play on.

Another thing that drove me crazy Friday was that there were a lot of fingernail fouls that didn't impact the play that were called, and a lot of muggings that seriously impacted the play that were not called. Again, they went both ways.

I know basketball is a very hard game to officiate, but these guys need to do a better job than they did Friday.

The football missed calls mentioned in this thread are worse than most bad basketball calls, because they are easier to see. But none of the calls mentioned are the worst call ever.

The worst call ever was the phantom offside call in the 2022 Cal-Notre Dame game. The Cal player is lined up well behind the neutral zone, gets a late jump off the snap, the field goal is missed, and then the flag is thrown for offside, lining up in the neutral zone.

I get that with game speed, officials miss things, and when a lot of action is going on, sometimes officials think they see things that didn't happen. Nobody's perfect. But when there is no action going on, you can't see something that didn't happen. You can't think a guy lined up in the neutral zone when he is well behind it. You can't think a guy left early when he left late. The ONLY explanations for that call were that the official hallucinated, or that he was corrupt, and the latter seems far more likely.

From the Cal section at Notre Dame, I had no idea the call was a bad one until my phone started blowing up with texts from people watching on TV. I had to watch the recording to know that I had been there for the worst officiating call ever.
Was going to mention the phantom off-sides call at Notre Dame, but at least no one got injured so I thought better of it.
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In reply to calumnus • 3:32p, 1/30/24
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bipolarbear said:
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HoopDreams said:
I had a great view on that play and thought it was terrible and late

One thing I feel is if someone falls down some refs feel they gotta call a foul

I don't think so

And yeah, the cylinder call was ridiculous and almost never called

Safety first. There should be no circumstance where a player swings his elbow and hits someone in the face where the call is on the defender

It would be like calling a penalty on a QB who got targeted



Like calling a penalty on Cal when Skov launched himself with the crown of his helmet into Goff's shoulder and head, knocking Goff out of the game, requiring off season surgery AND negating a Cal first down completion?
Never forget, never forgive

I will one day be able to tell my grandkids that I personally witnessed the worst call ever! (doesn't make it worth it, though)
Where is Skov now? Selling 'investment opportunities"somewhere?


Like every Stanford guy he had a couple stints with the 49ers. Now he is an Engagement Manager for McKinsey in Santa Barbara.
I guess once 'the glove' is gone it's all over.
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In reply to oskidunker • 5:09p, 1/30/24
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Plus Dennis Dummits knee was down at the three yard line.
I think I remember that play. Northeast corner? My memory of it was that it was a huge deal. Cost us more than just a win. (A Rosebowl?). But when I look back it seems it was just another loss to the Bruins. Am I misremembering? I was 14...
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In reply to Go!Bears • 5:22p, 1/30/24
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oskidunker said:
Plus Dennis Dummits knee was down at the three yard line.
I think I remember that play. Northeast corner? My memory of it was that it was a huge deal. Cost us more than just a win. (A Rosebowl?). But when I look back it seems it was just another loss to the Bruins. Am I misremembering? I was 14...


People always talk about "Desean's foot" in the Arizona game but the interception in the end zone that the refs took away with a bogus PI call against Cal cost us the Rose Bowl in 2006.
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In reply to calumnus • 6:04p, 1/30/24
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Go!Bears said:
oskidunker said:
Plus Dennis Dummits knee was down at the three yard line.
I think I remember that play. Northeast corner? My memory of it was that it was a huge deal. Cost us more than just a win. (A Rosebowl?). But when I look back it seems it was just another loss to the Bruins. Am I misremembering? I was 14...


People always talk about "Desean's foot" in the Arizona game but the interception in the end zone that the refs took away with a bogus PI call against Cal cost us the Rose Bowl in 2006.
In its totality, that's the dirtiest officiated game I've ever seen. No way they weren't on the take that day.
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In reply to MoragaBear • 6:15p, 1/30/24
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calumnus said:
Go!Bears said:
oskidunker said:
Plus Dennis Dummits knee was down at the three yard line.
I think I remember that play. Northeast corner? My memory of it was that it was a huge deal. Cost us more than just a win. (A Rosebowl?). But when I look back it seems it was just another loss to the Bruins. Am I misremembering? I was 14...


People always talk about "Desean's foot" in the Arizona game but the interception in the end zone that the refs took away with a bogus PI call against Cal cost us the Rose Bowl in 2006.
In its totality, that's the dirtiest officiated game I've ever seen. No way they weren't on the take that day.


Though we still could have won until this:

https://www.facebook.com/TheWildcaster/videos/921816488722201/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
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In reply to MoragaBear • 10:20p, 1/30/24
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calumnus said:
Go!Bears said:
oskidunker said:
Plus Dennis Dummits knee was down at the three yard line.
I think I remember that play. Northeast corner? My memory of it was that it was a huge deal. Cost us more than just a win. (A Rosebowl?). But when I look back it seems it was just another loss to the Bruins. Am I misremembering? I was 14...


People always talk about "Desean's foot" in the Arizona game but the interception in the end zone that the refs took away with a bogus PI call against Cal cost us the Rose Bowl in 2006.
In its totality, that's the dirtiest officiated game I've ever seen. No way they weren't on the take that day.

Stiff competition from the 2014 Big Game.
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